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cdoconn said:
I found a really cool website that details the differences between the two. From what I've read, besides for the stigma of MD vs DO, the "if you aren't competitive, pick DO" probably also goes into the fact that DOs are likely to not specialize and just be a physician, unlike most MDs who tend to specialize.


http://myheart.net/articles/md-vs-do/
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Interesting. It's sounds like it's just a perception of prestige thing, and that's why DO programs are easier to get into. It says that DO programs have a lower acceptance rate, but I think that data may be skewed because there are more MD programs out there?

Also thought it was funny that DOs have to take an extra 200 hours of learning the "musckeloskeltial system"[emoji14]

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sheltermed said:
Interesting. It's sounds like it's just a perception of prestige thing, and that's why DO programs are easier to get into. It says that DO programs have a lower acceptance rate, but I think that data may be skewed because there are more MD programs out there?

Also thought it was funny that DOs have to take an extra 200 hours of learning the "musckeloskeltial system"[emoji14]

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I think specialization and prestige are both huge. DO programs teach osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM), which is kind of pseudosciencey, and I doubt that helps with the prestige factor. It's also pretty recent (past 2-3 decades), that DOs can practice medicine everywhere in the US, and there are other countries where MDs can practice but DOs cannot.

MD and DO programs will have combined residency programs in a few years, and it'll be interesting to see what happens with that. Right now, there are fewer residency spots for DOs, and that limits specialization and probably pushes top students to MD over DO (which in turn adds to the prestige factor).

I don't know much about acceptance rates, but I'm sure the small number of schools is a big factor. I know a lot of MD applicants apply DO as a backup, and average GPAs and MCAT scores are lower for DO than MD.
 
I think there was a school that was trying to implement a fast track program for physicians' assistants to become DO's.
 
rockatiel said:
I think there was a school that was trying to implement a fast track program for physicians' assistants to become DO's.
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That's...interesting? I wonder why they felt the development of that sort of program was necessary. I thought being a PA isn't a track to becoming a doctor, but rather a career in and of itself. Perhaps there are some limitations (for example, I don't think PAs can perform surgical procedures?) to being a PA that folks decide they want to bypass later on in their careers. That would make sense.
 
So for those of you used to living in the cold.... it was in the 80s earlier this week, and all of a sudden a cold front came through and the temp majorly dropped. The sudden cold has made my tire pressure light go crazy in my car. Do you guys usually add air when it gets cold? Will it be bad if I do add air and then if it heats back up again?

This whole wintering thing is going to be interesting for me....
 
alohacat319 said:
So for those of you used to living in the cold.... it was in the 80s earlier this week, and all of a sudden a cold front came through and the temp majorly dropped. The sudden cold has made my tire pressure light go crazy in my car. Do you guys usually add air when it gets cold? Will it be bad if I do add air and then if it heats back up again?

This whole wintering thing is going to be interesting for me....
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Yep, add air when it gets cold. Don't overfill your tires but just up to the normal pressure. At least that's what I do. Hopefully that's right, I'm no car expert.
 
alohacat319 said:
So for those of you used to living in the cold.... it was in the 80s earlier this week, and all of a sudden a cold front came through and the temp majorly dropped. The sudden cold has made my tire pressure light go crazy in my car. Do you guys usually add air when it gets cold? Will it be bad if I do add air and then if it heats back up again?

This whole wintering thing is going to be interesting for me....
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For real. it was in the 90's all last week, and it will be 28 tonight. I want to turn on the heat but roommates want let me 😕
 
alohacat319 said:
So for those of you used to living in the cold.... it was in the 80s earlier this week, and all of a sudden a cold front came through and the temp majorly dropped. The sudden cold has made my tire pressure light go crazy in my car. Do you guys usually add air when it gets cold? Will it be bad if I do add air and then if it heats back up again?

This whole wintering thing is going to be interesting for me....
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I actually don't usually add air. The pressure light eventually turns off for me in cold weather, unless the pressure is actually low.

Wintering is great, you'll see!!!

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can someone tell me the title of a good book about cats and their behaviour?
 
LetItSnow said:
I don't add air to my tires in winter, but I bet you're supposed to.

Or rather, I don't add it, but I bet the oil change people do when I get my oil changed.
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I've heard it said that an estimated 1 psi change can be seen with every 10-15 degrees. My understanding is that TPMS warning lights vary by manufacturer but can kick on when they detect anywhere from 10-25% below the recommended PSI. Maybe I'm just picky, but I wouldn't consider it a substitute for checking the pressures myself regularly. My car doesn't have the TPMS sensors hooked up anyway.
 
Eh, all I can say is I have been putting air in a LOT of tires at work recently. We always have a bunch right as fall hits, and then again on all the summer 3 day weekends.
 
Jilary said:
Aren't you supposed to leave your tires slightly under inflated during the winter for better traction in snow? Or did I make that up in my head? (totally possible)
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From what I read, it is not good for your tires for them to be underinflated for long periods of time (was reading about it when my tire pressure light came on a few weeks ago). And I would think that under-inflated tires would actually have less traction.

Everything I've read says you should be extra vigilant about keeping your tires properly inflated during the winter, so I would add air to get them back up to the recommended psi @alohacat319. Even if it gets warm the pressure shouldn't go high enough for it to cause any issues, since the recommended pressures are cold pressures anyway.

http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=73
http://www.cgj.com/2013/09/20/winter-vs-summer-tire-pressure-what-is-the-proper-inflation/
https://www.kaltire.com/tire-pressure-in-winter-conditions-what-you-need-to-know/
 
Guess I'll be doing that tomorrow before I drive 80 miles to the airport to head home. Thanks for the info guys!
 
Have you ever dreamt to have friends who live far away and to share experiences with them or something kind that like total random question but still hahah
 
Frozenshades said:
I've heard it said that an estimated 1 psi change can be seen with every 10-15 degrees. My understanding is that TPMS warning lights vary by manufacturer but can kick on when they detect anywhere from 10-25% below the recommended PSI. Maybe I'm just picky, but I wouldn't consider it a substitute for checking the pressures myself regularly. My car doesn't have the TPMS sensors hooked up anyway.
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Mine doesn't either. Then I went to check them one time and found that one tire was at like 10 psi when they should be like 38 (tires are labeled for 42, but that seems excessive per my dad). Planning on checking my tires while I'm home while I know specific places that don't require me to pay for air.
 
orca2011 said:
Mine doesn't either. Then I went to check them one time and found that one tire was at like 10 psi when they should be like 38 (tires are labeled for 42, but that seems excessive per my dad). Planning on checking my tires while I'm home while I know specific places that don't require me to pay for air.
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I have a little air pump that runs off DC power from the cigarette lighter. Not super powerful but it does the job
 
Today while going over the plan for our upcoming A&P lab practical one of my instructors mentioned that over-competitive vet students will intentionally move the ID markers at exam stations (to a different area of the specimen) in order to sabotage that question for the rest of the class. I know that's kind of an anecdotal thing but it made me wonder--has anyone here ever experienced/witnessed something like that? It seems like it would be easily preventable or verifiable...
 
Devastating said:
Today while going over the plan for our upcoming A&P lab practical one of my instructors mentioned that over-competitive vet students will intentionally move the ID markers at exam stations (to a different area of the specimen) in order to sabotage that question for the rest of the class. I know that's kind of an anecdotal thing but it made me wonder--has anyone here ever experienced/witnessed something like that? It seems like it would be easily preventable or verifiable...
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In undergrad...

(I should clarify, not me. I suffered the consequences of this on 2 tests. The professor noticed it, but didn't see who did it. Let it happen again hoping to catch them. Didn't as far as I know. Let the grades stand.)
 
Devastating said:
Today while going over the plan for our upcoming A&P lab practical one of my instructors mentioned that over-competitive vet students will intentionally move the ID markers at exam stations (to a different area of the specimen) in order to sabotage that question for the rest of the class. I know that's kind of an anecdotal thing but it made me wonder--has anyone here ever experienced/witnessed something like that? It seems like it would be easily preventable or verifiable...
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I can't imagine this happening during vet school. For one, we weren't allowed to touch the specimens and the anatomy professors are all wandering around the classroom with you. For another, it's really not as much of a competition (at least I never felt like my class was). No need to sabotage your neighbors when you're all drowning together anyway.
 
Devastating said:
Today while going over the plan for our upcoming A&P lab practical one of my instructors mentioned that over-competitive vet students will intentionally move the ID markers at exam stations (to a different area of the specimen) in order to sabotage that question for the rest of the class. I know that's kind of an anecdotal thing but it made me wonder--has anyone here ever experienced/witnessed something like that? It seems like it would be easily preventable or verifiable...
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Edited because I can't read; read "pre-vets" not vet students.
 
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Agreed with Kcough. I can't imagine that actually happening, at least not in my vet school class. Outside of a few exceptional students, everyone is struggling just to stay afloat; in general, we're all quite supportive of each other so I don't think the general want to sabotage fellow classmates is there (also, it is a violation of our honor code, anyway). Even then, though, we are not allowed to touch anything on the specimens during our anatomy practicals/lab exams, and afaik there are multiple professors and TAs circulating the dissection room during that time AND there's cameras. If something like that were to happen, it'd almost inevitably be caught, be it by eye or by tape. Not worth the risk.
 
Holy cow. Yeah, we would get in massive trouble if we did that at my school. And rightfully so.

My class is, thus far, very much in the we're-all-just-trying-to-survive-here camp; we've got a couple of interesting characters like any other class, but I don't think anyone would try to sabotage everybody else by doing something like that.
 
My two weeks of cardio converted me to a welch allyn user...guess i need to invest in yet another stethoscope now sigh.

Also, as an extreme creature of habit, I desperately want to get a similar/identical tag to ID my stethoscope. I dont want to take my old one off, but I don't want anything else. Yay for being obsessive haha. I don't know if this is a reality I can make happen - we used to order them as a class from some company while at SGU. Just a generic cute paw print, but they had tons of fun fonts and you could engrave little symbols on them in addition to text. So for example, one of my tags has my name, email address and a turtle, the other has my name, phone number, and a lizard. They are green and cute.
shopping
 
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1) I can't see people moving the pins in anatomy. Selfish cheating unethical bastardness aside - you'd have to move it once, then go back and move it at the end of the test so nobody knew. And even then instructors would be like "why the hell did half the class all put <this other muscle>????" And, at least at UMN, there were plenty of eyes watching during those exams - if you got caught doing that you'd be fried. Kiss your over-competitive ass goodbye. So cheating like that ... doesn't seem worth it.

2) All y'all think way more about your car tires than I do. I just get my oil changed every 3 months and let THEM put air in the tires.
 
Regarding tire pressure, the amount listed on the tire (at least all the ones I've seen) is the max pressure. You don't really want to fill up to there. At least if you are a gas attendant, because if someone's tire blew up you are toast. I usually fill tires ranked max 44 psi to about 36-37 psi.
 
We were allowed to touch some specimens, and occasionally a tag would get inadvertently moved, but the teachers were constantly circulating and checking so if they saw something moved they'd fix it and announce it to the class to go back look again. I really don't think any one in my class would do something like that on purpose.
 
I've never had anyone try to sabotage an anatomy practical like that and I've taken it in both undergrad and grad school with the same prof. We were allowed to touch some of the specimens, but the TAs and prof were very good about circulating the rooms to make sure something stayed in the right place. Everyone was extremely competitve there, but the prof was so hard (half the class always flunked the whole class) that we were all just trying to stay afloat.
 
Thanks for the responses all!

Yeah, this one pretty much summed up my thinking. I didn't see how something like that could happen with adequate supervision/proctoring, other means of marking, or just rechecking pin marker positions after the exam.
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1) you'd have to move it once, then go back and move it at the end of the test so nobody knew. And even then instructors would be like "why the hell did half the class all put <this other muscle>????" And, at least at UMN, there were plenty of eyes watching during those exams
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Teacher brought it up in the context of telling us not to touch/move pins, then when someone asked why/who would do that she said "vet students would". Don't know if she actually experienced that or is just further repeating ancient rumors/anecdotes. I also know a lot of schools (at least nowadays) seem to be more relaxed/collaborative and way less competition/ranking focused, so there's even less reason to do that.maybe in a bygone age with less supervision/less savviness to cheating methods/more intraclass competitiveness.
 
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Yes, usually the max cold tire pressure is listed on the sidewall. That's for maximum load of the car/tires. And you should be filling the tire up when it's cold or your tire has rested. So, don't drive 50 miles in the sun and then inflate your tires. The optimum tire pressure is usually listed in the car somewhere - door, trunk, etc. I don't have a tire pressure indicator light at all - I drive really old cars. I just have a pressure gauge with me in the car and I check every so often.
 
Murphy's Law of Bird Identification:

If you can't figure out a bird despite several hours of looking through bird books, and you put a photo up in your bird banding group for help, it will end up being a very obvious very common bird. Embarrassment will ensue.
 
I used the phrase "my boyfriend" in casual conversation today for the first time in a very very long time. Which is good. And things are good. But I'm usually a total commitment phobe and this is really weird. It's only been a little over a month and I'm sort of freaking out over how much I like this guy.
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
Regarding tire pressure, the amount listed on the tire (at least all the ones I've seen) is the max pressure. You don't really want to fill up to there. At least if you are a gas attendant, because if someone's tire blew up you are toast. I usually fill tires ranked max 44 psi to about 36-37 psi.
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Most cars will have the recommended tire pressure on a chart on the inside of the driver's door.
 
We're allowed to touch the specimens as much as we want during the anatomy practical, and usually it's just the professor and one TA in there. Can't imagine anyone moving any of the pins or anything...we all want each other to do well!
 
This is the first year my parents hosted Thanksgiving - the dog ended up in my room to stop him from barking- my little rabbits ended up in the sun room - I ended up moving between the two rooms all afternoon to check on the pets and keep an eye on unexpected child guests. Basically, I was told there wouldn't be children but nope, two little kids under 7 who are are related through marriage to one of my cousins showed up. Surprise!

My poor animals.... and poor me too. I had to endure hours of endless child babble to save my fur babies from harassment.
 
dyachei said:
@wheelin2vetmed

I saw an article about you being sent around to other vets. Just thought you'd like to know
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I saw it last week too! I think it was one of his classmates who shared the link I saw on Facebook! I meant to mention it but it slipped my mind.


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hazelmoo said:
@wheelin2vetmed your secret identity has been compromised
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Bahhhh, I've been made 😛. Just a matter of time. The exposure's grown a little more than I wanted too, but I didn't know what to expect. I'm a pretty private person, so news stations and stuff wanting to interview me is a little weird.

My goal with all of this is to connect with the young spinal cord injury community. I really hope it doesn't turn into "inspiration porn," because I really don't want recognition solely based on my disability. I understand where it comes from, but my reasons to open up my life to the general public are more than that.

My school did a great job with it though, I enjoyed working with the team closely and I still talk to them just about every day.
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
Bahhhh, I've been made 😛. Just a matter of time. The exposure's grown a little more than I wanted too, but I didn't know what to expect. I'm a pretty private person, so news stations and stuff wanting to interview me is a little weird.

My goal with all of this is to connect with the young spinal cord injury community. I really hope it doesn't turn into "inspiration porn," because I really don't want recognition solely based on my disability. I understand where it comes from, but my reasons to open up my life to the general public are more than that.

My school did a great job with it though, I enjoyed working with the team closely and I still talk to them just about every day.
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I thought it was inspiring to all people who have a dream whether they have a disability or not. I really hope your message is able to help all kinds of people who think they can't achieve their goals for whatever reason.
 
@wheelin2vetmed you are a pretty incredible person. There isn't really much more to add haha. Wasn't able to watch the video because I'm in lecture, but I'll watch it later. 🙂

If you are wanting to go back into hiding, the popularity of the article itself will blow over eventually haha. Out of curiosity, have you had any other people with spinal injuries approach you since the article was published?
 
Starting to watch the show Lost by request of my SO... oh my gosh I'm going to have problems not binge-watching this show. So. good.! How I haven't discovered this show before now I'll never know.
 
SandstormDVM said:
Driving back to Iowa from my parents' house in Missouri and stopped to use the restroom at a gas station in what I think is the legit middle of nowhere on the state line. Everyone here giving me weird looks and I feel so awkward... it's like one of those ultra sketchy gas stations you see in horror movies.
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I hattttteee running into these! Especially when I'm alone... even if I really have to pee or get gas I'll try to wait until I get to a station I feel safer at. Ick.
 
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