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I've spent all weekend studying for my immuno exam tomorrow and I still feel grossly under prepared. I have no idea what questions to expect or what level of detail my proff expects of us. I hate first exams.

Edit: I'm mostly freaked out because each exam is only 50 points, and the entire course is out of our 4 exam scores. So there's very little wiggle room as far as earning points. :dead: It'll be fine, right?
 
Moving this to the random thread since it's not really a rant anymore...

mmmdreamerz said:
100% this!

Many people choose dogs for looks and it doesn’t end well.
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General question: what advice do folks give on this topic to people who are interested in adopting a younger dog?

I feel like I could comfortably say which breeds I would recommend for new dog owners based on their individual lifestyle choices and personalities, but I have wondered about this on the adoption front. Sometimes generalizations can be made based on probable breed combos, but that's not possible to do for many mutts because their parentage is hard to determine.

Obviously for adult shelter dogs, I would say to rely on the shelter/rescue org/foster to help find a good match... but with puppies or dogs <1-2yrs old, I find it hard to determine if they will be high energy or low energy adults, easy to train or more challenging to train...etc.

And I know some of this can be overcome with good training and socialization, but not all of it.

I've been wondering about this from the perspective of advising clients/friends, but also curious about it for myself -- eventually I would like to get a dog and would like to consider a rescue dog... but in some ways, working with a conscientious breeder seems easier. Of course, every dog is an individual, but there are some general inherited tendencies that are seen more frequently in breeds. And for example, I like the look of border collies, but I would probably be a terrible border collie mom, so I worry I might go for a border collie-ish pup in a shelter and then later on be like "what have I done" (but then I would love them too much so I'd have to get a farm and some sheep? idk)
 
PippyPony said:
Moving this to the random thread since it's not really a rant anymore...


General question: what advice do folks give on this topic to people who are interested in adopting a younger dog?

I feel like I could comfortably say which breeds I would recommend for new dog owners based on their individual lifestyle choices and personalities, but I have wondered about this on the adoption front. Sometimes generalizations can be made based on probable breed combos, but that's not possible to do for many mutts because their parentage is hard to determine.

Obviously for adult shelter dogs, I would say to rely on the shelter/rescue org/foster to help find a good match... but with puppies or dogs <1-2yrs old, I find it hard to determine if they will be high energy or low energy adults, easy to train or more challenging to train...etc.

And I know some of this can be overcome with good training and socialization, but not all of it.

I've been wondering about this from the perspective of advising clients/friends, but also curious about it for myself -- eventually I would like to get a dog and would like to consider a rescue dog... but in some ways, working with a conscientious breeder seems easier. Of course, every dog is an individual, but there are some general inherited tendencies that are seen more frequently in breeds. And for example, I like the look of border collies, but I would probably be a terrible border collie mom, so I worry I might go for a border collie-ish pup in a shelter and then later on be like "what have I done" (but then I would love them too much so I'd have to get a farm and some sheep? idk)
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Two data points on border collies 🙂. Our first border collie came from a working farm (dam)/our large animal vet (sire). She was a super smart dog, knew the names of all of many toys, trained very easily, and loved catching balls and frisbees. She loved to sprint, but didn’t enjoy running on a leash. She’d sprint the first mile and then make you “drag” her the rest of the way and as soon as we got home she’d get her frisbee and want to play. So she wasn’t tired at all . She got her exercise from backyard play and lots of walking.

Current border collie came from a reputable breeder. Others had passed on her as a puppy because she wasn’t “intense” enough. Lol she was way more intense than our first one. Also very easy to train, loves catching balls and frisbees, and LOVED to run. She was my marathon training partner and still wanted to keep going. Was a great runner on and off a leash (canal tow path and I always carried a leash for just in case). She was definitely in work mode for the runs and loved it. I think she would have been a great agility dog, her sire won many high level completions. As she got too old to run long distances, we’d have to sneak out to avoid the sad look she’d give us when she saw us in running gear. In her old age (15 years old), she still enjoys walks and playing in the yard.

My take is that it’s very important to have the time and energy to put in plenty of training and exercise in the early years to avoid developing neurotic tendencies. Otherwise you can’t ask for a smarter, more loyal, loving dog. 🙂
 
PippyPony said:
Moving this to the random thread since it's not really a rant anymore...


General question: what advice do folks give on this topic to people who are interested in adopting a younger dog?

I feel like I could comfortably say which breeds I would recommend for new dog owners based on their individual lifestyle choices and personalities, but I have wondered about this on the adoption front. Sometimes generalizations can be made based on probable breed combos, but that's not possible to do for many mutts because their parentage is hard to determine.

Obviously for adult shelter dogs, I would say to rely on the shelter/rescue org/foster to help find a good match... but with puppies or dogs <1-2yrs old, I find it hard to determine if they will be high energy or low energy adults, easy to train or more challenging to train...etc.

And I know some of this can be overcome with good training and socialization, but not all of it.

I've been wondering about this from the perspective of advising clients/friends, but also curious about it for myself -- eventually I would like to get a dog and would like to consider a rescue dog... but in some ways, working with a conscientious breeder seems easier. Of course, every dog is an individual, but there are some general inherited tendencies that are seen more frequently in breeds. And for example, I like the look of border collies, but I would probably be a terrible border collie mom, so I worry I might go for a border collie-ish pup in a shelter and then later on be like "what have I done" (but then I would love them too much so I'd have to get a farm and some sheep? idk)
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I love dog sports, so every so often I’m tempted by a BC...and then I see them at agility trials and thank the lord I don’t have to deal with one lolol.

(Not an insult to border collies...I just personally want a sporting dog that I can also live with without going crazy lol)

I help teach puppy classes and it’s something that I sort of struggle with. I think the biggest problem is not any one breed being good or bad for people, but that people don’t realistically evaluate what they need in a dog and get the wrong dog for their lifestyle. And then the dog doesn’t get the exercise or mental stimulation that it needs and everyone suffers.

As much as I feel guilty admitting it, I’m very much a get a dog from a breeder kind of person. I don’t have the time to deal with behavior issues at this point in my life and when I got a puppy, I knew that every experience she’s had thus far in her life was positive. That doesn’t mean your guaranteed a behaviorally-sound dog, but it sure helps with the correct environment and training thereafter. And I have a very well-adjusted, behaviorally sound dog. I paid a pretty penny, but 100% worth it.

That said, she’s relatively high-drive/high-intensity for a poodle, so she would likely be a very different dog with someone else who didnt give her outlets to release energy and brainpower lol.
 
mmmdreamerz said:
I love dog sports, so every so often I’m tempted by a BC...and then I see them at agility trials and thank the lord I don’t have to deal with one lolol.

(Not an insult to border collies...I just personally want a sporting dog that I can also live with without going crazy lol)

I help teach puppy classes and it’s something that I sort of struggle with. I think the biggest problem is not any one breed being good or bad for people, but that people don’t realistically evaluate what they need in a dog and get the wrong dog for their lifestyle. And then the dog doesn’t get the exercise or mental stimulation that it needs and everyone suffers.

As much as I feel guilty admitting it, I’m very much a get a dog from a breeder kind of person. I don’t have the time to deal with behavior issues at this point in my life and when I got a puppy, I knew that every experience she’s had thus far in her life was positive. That doesn’t mean your guaranteed a behaviorally-sound dog, but it sure helps with the correct environment and training thereafter. And I have a very well-adjusted, behaviorally sound dog. I paid a pretty penny, but 100% worth it.

That said, she’s relatively high-drive/high-intensity for a poodle, so she would likely be a very different dog with someone else who didnt give her outlets to release energy and brainpower lol.
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100% this... We got my golden from a great breeder and she was a wonderful dog and a wonderful choice for my family at the time.

And if I was picking a shelter puppy, I think I would end up picking primarily on "this mutt is adorable" & probably would end up with the wrong dog. For example, I was literally on petfinder yesterday and these are the dogs I liked:

www.petfinder.com

Adopt Cuff on Petfinder

Cuff is an adoptable Dog - Boxer & Australian Shepherd Mix searching for a forever family near Glocester, RI. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com
www.petfinder.com

Adopt Wingnut on Petfinder

Wingnut is an adoptable Dog - Cocker Spaniel Mix searching for a forever family near Glocester, RI. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com
www.petfinder.com

Adopt Lucy on Petfinder

Lucy is an adoptable Dog - Spaniel & Border Collie Mix searching for a forever family near Glocester, RI. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com
www.petfinder.com

Adopt Indigo on Petfinder

Indigo is an adoptable Dog - Husky Mix searching for a forever family near Boston, MA. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com
www.petfinder.com

Adopt Hannah on Petfinder

Hannah is an adoptable Dog - Husky & Labrador Retriever Mix searching for a forever family near Boston, MA. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com

Like...they will probably grow up to be some very different dogs.

Literally the only one that likely has an established personality was this one: https://www.petfinder.com/dog/brody-47282527/ri/glocester/little-rhody-rescue-ri96/

Edit: it makes me super happy that two of those dogs have already found homes since yesterday 😍
 
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I probably would just tell people that if they're adopting a puppy without knowing history and parentage, they should be ready for surprises. They really should be ready for that even if they get one from a breeder, but yeah you're rolling the dice a little bit more with a shelter pup. And shelters (/everybody) are notoriously horrible at identifying breed mixes anyway, so you can't really base anything on what breeds the dog looks like it might be. If they can handle that, then sure, get a puppy. If not, better to get an older dog (or a young adult) where personality is a little more established and obvious. I'd probably foster-to-adopt myself if possible no matter what age dog I was getting, since some things just aren't apparent in the shelter setting.

I'm not someone who would probably ever buy from a breeder for multiple reasons (no judgment to those who do). So if I'm looking into getting a dog, I'm going to prepare myself for the upper end of work and attention in case that's what they end up needing. I'd recommend the same to clients.
 
PippyPony said:
100% this... We got my golden from a great breeder and she was a wonderful dog and a wonderful choice for my family at the time.

And if I was picking a shelter puppy, I think I would end up picking primarily on "this mutt is adorable" & probably would end up with the wrong dog. For example, I was literally on petfinder yesterday and these are the dogs I liked:

www.petfinder.com

Adopt Cuff on Petfinder

Cuff is an adoptable Dog - Boxer & Australian Shepherd Mix searching for a forever family near Glocester, RI. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com
www.petfinder.com

Adopt Wingnut on Petfinder

Wingnut is an adoptable Dog - Cocker Spaniel Mix searching for a forever family near Glocester, RI. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com
www.petfinder.com

Adopt Lucy on Petfinder

Lucy is an adoptable Dog - Spaniel & Border Collie Mix searching for a forever family near Glocester, RI. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com
www.petfinder.com

Adopt Indigo on Petfinder

Indigo is an adoptable Dog - Husky Mix searching for a forever family near Boston, MA. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com
www.petfinder.com

Adopt Hannah on Petfinder

Hannah is an adoptable Dog - Husky & Labrador Retriever Mix searching for a forever family near Boston, MA. Use Petfinder to find adoptable pets in your area.
www.petfinder.com www.petfinder.com

Like...they will probably grow up to be some very different dogs.

Literally the only one that likely has an established personality was this one: https://www.petfinder.com/dog/brody-47282527/ri/glocester/little-rhody-rescue-ri96/

Edit: it makes me super happy that two of those dogs have already found homes since yesterday 😍
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I feel like the shelter might be giving people a clue what to expect by calling the one "Wingnut" :laugh:
 
I think adopting a slightly “older” dog is a great bet for those who want to adopt. I’ve had a shelter dog (age unknown but at least middle aged) and now have a purebred from a breeder and both are/were great in their own ways. Most clients don’t exercise their dog enough regardless of breed and I’m always sad to see the neurotic high energy breeds that would be so much better off with just a daily walk 🙁
 
that redhead said:
I think adopting a slightly “older” dog is a great bet for those who want to adopt. I’ve had a shelter dog (age unknown but at least middle aged) and now have a purebred from a breeder and both are/were great in their own ways. Most clients don’t exercise their dog enough regardless of breed and I’m always sad to see the neurotic high energy breeds that would be so much better off with just a daily walk 🙁
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I can't believe the difference in the Doof when he gets daily walks vs when he doesn't. He gets squirrelly after about two days without and starts stirring up trouble in the house around then as well. It's no wonder my parents had trouble with him, as they could rarely get him out for more than just going potty in the backyard
 
i love watching them go thru the weave poles!! so awesome!

and our Gracie (heinz 57--we think lab/shephard of some kind mix) must have a run every day or she drives us batty. she will pace, try to play with a toy, has the attention span of a 1 year old...ugh. we try, and just hope it doesn't stay cold/wet too long.
 
WildZoo said:
I probably would just tell people that if they're adopting a puppy without knowing history and parentage, they should be ready for surprises. They really should be ready for that even if they get one from a breeder, but yeah you're rolling the dice a little bit more with a shelter pup. And shelters (/everybody) are notoriously horrible at identifying breed mixes anyway, so you can't really base anything on what breeds the dog looks like it might be. If they can handle that, then sure, get a puppy. If not, better to get an older dog (or a young adult) where personality is a little more established and obvious. I'd probably foster-to-adopt myself if possible no matter what age dog I was getting, since some things just aren't apparent in the shelter setting.

I'm not someone who would probably ever buy from a breeder for multiple reasons (no judgment to those who do). So if I'm looking into getting a dog, I'm going to prepare myself for the upper end of work and attention in case that's what they end up needing. I'd recommend the same to clients.
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We had a border collie/black lab mix who was rescued from a junkyard when she was very pregnant with seven puppies. When they were adopted out at 8 weeks old, one wouldn't be able to tell the difference between these puppies and purebred black lab puppies based on looks.

One family who adopted a baby boy threw a first birthday party for the litter. My dog's son towered over her! My dog was about 55 lbs and I think her son was about 75 with a hearty build. He wasn't the biggest of the seven either. He didn't look like much of a lab either - he looked like a greyhound!

Speaking of border collies, I got into running for that dog's sake because my goodness did she need it!
 
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Hi people computer-smarter than me 🙂 Hoping for some kind of internet reassurance since I won't have time to get a professional opinion until at least Friday afternoon. My laptop has started making a clicking sound. Not very loud. Not rhythmic. Volume and frequency change with the position of the computer. Stops when I put it to sleep. Solid state drive, so I don't think it's an impending hard drive failure? I was at home for all of last week so I'm hoping I just have dog hair in the fan? Wasn't dropped or anything like that. It's under warranty but I have to mail it away for service, so I'm hoping this is something that can maybe wait for a bit. Thoughts?

ETA: Just discovered the clicking gets louder/more frequent when the fan turns up and then chills again when it turns back down.
 
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I had a very specific dream last night that I had been out in practice for a few years and ended up in optometry school. Can you even be an eye doctor if you need corrective lenses yourself? Lol
 
Stroganoff said:
You likely nailed it.

Curious: Make and model? I have an old HP with terrible fan failure. Crazy noises and full arrest. My 2007 Dell is going strong (as we speak).
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Asus... not sure model (some of the stickers are gone). But pretty new. I think I bought it last April or so after my cat helpfully spilled coffee on my last one. The noise has become very positional, and it's mostly gone back to being silent 🙂
 
Squeaksmom said:
The noise has become very positional, and it's mostly gone back to being silent
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I'm sorry it's back to silent. I'll make you some coffee and summon the cat. 😛

Edit: It may help to take a can of compressed air (when the computer is off) and use the straw to direct some air to blow out the intake vent (the same direction the fan blows) to see what kind of dust and hair and crud comes out. Then do it again retrograde (blowing into the fan) and see if more comes out. Then again the other way. If it's a tiny thin laptop it may be difficult to access the vents.
 
Stroganoff said:
summon the cat. 😛
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He's always happy to "help...." <sigh>

Poor guy was just trying to tell me he loves me... went to head butt my chin when my mug was half way to my mouth and connected with the bottom of the cup instead. Computer was on my lap.
 
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House organization question:

What do y'all do with your old scrubs from past jobs/volunteer orgs? I'm amassing a collection that's beginning to look like my {insert start up company} t-shirt drawer, and I can't wear any of these for clinics because they have another organization's logo on them.

I used some of them for my trashy anatomy scrubs in first year, but after chucking those with my gross lab coat, I still have a bunch taking up space in my closet.

Can't imagine they have resale value, but feel bad throwing things away...
 
PippyPony said:
House organization question:

What do y'all do with your old scrubs from past jobs/volunteer orgs? I'm amassing a collection that's beginning to look like my {insert start up company} t-shirt drawer, and I can't wear any of these for clinics because they have another organization's logo on them.

I used some of them for my trashy anatomy scrubs in first year, but after chucking those with my gross lab coat, I still have a bunch taking up space in my closet.

Can't imagine they have resale value, but feel bad throwing things away...
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I only kept one hospital pair from residency for nostalgia. And the routine clinic ones I wore from residency (which still say property of...) are a beautiful royal blue (so the black stamping isnt noticeable really) and have a green stripe on the back of the neck area and green ties on the bottoms.... i have 2 pairs of those, and I wear them every other friday on payday so whenever people see me and the bright green on my scrubs that day they instantly smile and have their spirits lifted cause they know they getting that $$$ haha
 
Animal Midwife said:
How far away from the screen am I suppose to be to do this? I'm terribly near-sighted and don't want to cheat.
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Can do it however far or close you normally read the screen is. This is testing color, so getting closer isnt going to help if your cones cant discern the different shades.
 
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