Rape-x...Would you sell it?

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http://www.rapestop.net/

Rapex is the new "anti-rape" female condom. (not available in the United States yet, but maybe one day soon) It has barb-like hooks on the inside of the condom. Once the penis is fully inserted, when the male tries to thrust, it will cause a very painful reaction and surgery is needed for it's removal. Is this a good idea? I'm not defending the rapists that would be hurt by this, but what about a vindictive wife/partner that wanted to get even?

This thing just looks uncomfortable to wear for a woman, but what do I know? I'm just a jock...

http://www.rapestop.net/gallery/photos/Anti-Rape%20Condom%20in%20open%20position/IMG_1897.JPG

 

[All4MyDaughter]

I think something like that might get you killed...

 

[SpirivaSunrise]

http://www.rapestop.net/

Rapex is the new "anti-rape" female condom. (not available in the United States yet, but maybe one day soon) It has barb-like hooks on the inside of the condom. Once the penis is fully inserted, when the male tries to thrust, it will cause a very painful reaction and surgery is needed for it's removal. Is this a good idea? I'm not defending the rapists that would be hurt by this, but what about a vindictive wife/partner that wanted to get even?

This thing just looks uncomfortable to wear for a woman, but what do I know? I'm just a jock...

I've heard of that being used in South Africa to prevent attacks...the issue seemed to be whether it would actually lead to increased violence...I don't think the guy would be too thrilled after being greeted by those sharp barbs.

And I remember when it came out, they said it hadn't been tried on a man yet...are you sure you don't want to be the first to try it out?

 

[JwY]

I think something like that might get you killed...

I have to agree. I can't see the attacker just leaving the person alone after being greeted by this.

 

[no-see-um]

the issue seemed to be whether it would actually lead to increased violence...

Right. I have no issue with a woman doing whatever needed to protect herself. And I'd have no problem selling it if it's protective. It's her body, after all, and as long as it doesn't raise women's health concerns, it seems fine.

My concern, however, is whether this would actually be an effective method to decrease attacks against women. I don't think it will be due to the nature of the crime, however, it may decrease recidivism since pain could make a sentient beast conscious enough not to do it again...

 

[BiOGoly]

Whoa. Straight outta Snow Crash... Except Neil Stephenson was smart enough to include a knockout injection drug in the barbs.

 

[pion]

Whoa. Straight outta Snow Crash... Except Neil Stephenson was smart enough to include a knockout injection drug in the barbs.

Exactly what I was thinking!

Hard to say if it would result in worse violence. Maybe the excruciating pain would consume enough of the attacker's attention that the female could make a getaway?

 

[JerryPharmD]

From the site:

What if I am asleep and someone enters my house and tries to rape me?
Golden rule... keep the device right next to you. Remember it is very easy to insert, and very quick too.

This is just ridiculous

Another one:

Will it protect me against STD's ?
Yes, as there is no body fluid inside you from the rapist.

I wouldn't bet on it 😱
And yes, I would sell it, once it clears the legal department of the company that manufactures it.

 

[OSUpharmy]

I have to agree. I can't see the attacker just leaving the person alone after being greeted by this.

Don't fight back because you might make your attacker mad?? Do everything you can to kill your attacker. A nurse in Portland choked a man to death that broke into her appartment last year. That deters crime if anything. Being a pacifist encourages evil people to bullseye you as a victim. Anything to maim a rapist is ok by me.

 

[Requiem]

Don't fight back because you might make your attacker mad?? Do everything you can to kill your attacker. A nurse in Portland choked a man to death that broke into her appartment last year. That deters crime if anything. Being a pacifist encourages evil people to bullseye you as a victim. Anything to maim a rapist is ok by me.

You shouldn't speak so adamantly. If you get mugged by someone at knife point, are you going to kick him just to "do everything you can to kill your attacker"? After a certain point the balance leans from self-defense to ensuring your own survival. I wouldn't agitate someone further if I were at gun/knife point. The chance it might work exists, but I think it's outweighed by a greater chance of worse harm coming your way.

The situation I envision is the rapist just getting maimed, pulls out - incredibly furious with massive amounts of adrenaline pumping through his system ready to kill and a woman lying in bed wide-eyed not sure what to do.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

You shouldn't speak so adamantly. If you get mugged by someone at knife point, are you going to kick him just to "do everything you can to kill your attacker"? After a certain point the balance leans from self-defense to ensuring your own survival. I wouldn't agitate someone further if I were at gun/knife point. The chance it might work exists, but I think it's outweighed by a greater chance of worse harm coming your way.

The situation I envision is the rapist just getting maimed, pulls out - incredibly furious with massive amounts of adrenaline pumping through his system ready to kill and a woman lying in bed wide-eyed not sure what to do.

I agree with Requiem. I've been involved in an armed robbery and nearly got shot when one hotshot among my friends tried to resist the robber.

When confronted with an armed criminal the very best thing you can do is cooperate and hope to escape with your life. I think in the Portland case referenced above, the attacker was trying to kill the woman in question. In that case, of course - fight for your life. But the average mugger, robber, rapist...doesn't intend to kill their victim.

I would not want me or any of the women I love to have to go through a sexual assault but I'd rather they live through it than the alternative.

 

[JwY]

Don't fight back because you might make your attacker mad?? Do everything you can to kill your attacker. A nurse in Portland choked a man to death that broke into her appartment last year. That deters crime if anything. Being a pacifist encourages evil people to bullseye you as a victim. Anything to maim a rapist is ok by me.

I never said don't fight back as it always depends on the individual situation. The question lies in whether this would work well as a deterrent or a reason that the attacker should not only harm the victim, but kill them as well. Requiem pretty much summed it up.

 

[mike36]

Don't fight back because you might make your attacker mad?? Do everything you can to kill your attacker. A nurse in Portland choked a man to death that broke into her appartment last year. That deters crime if anything. Being a pacifist encourages evil people to bullseye you as a victim. Anything to maim a rapist is ok by me.

A weapon completely changes the situation. If you think you'll be killed anyways, then yes, fight back. But if they just want your money, give it to them and walk away with your life. I do agree with what you said about maiming rapists. They are the scum of the earth.

Yes, I would sell it.

 

[LiveLoveFartRepeat]

It's interesting to see people try to describe what should be a good reaction to a rape or a crime..don't fight it..fight it..at the end of the day unless you've been there none of us has no clue what his/her reaction will be. They call it instinct.I live in a "high crime" area and sometime the reason of why somebody was killed just make you want to scream even if you did not know the victim. Gang member initiation and crap like that..

Now for that condom I can't imagine women wearing 24/7 but if one is a party animal it does not hurt to wear it when you go clubing just in case somebody put a rape pill in your drink I put rapist second on my list of people that should be fried for their crime ( after pedophiles)

just my take on it.

 

[OSUpharmy]

When confronted with an armed criminal the very best thing you can do is cooperate and hope to escape with your life. I think in the Portland case referenced above, the attacker was trying to kill the woman in question. In that case, of course - fight for your life. But the average mugger, robber, rapist...doesn't intend to kill their victim.

A big difference is if you view being raped more horrible than being killed.

 

[Brixius]

A big difference is if you view being raped more horrible than being killed.

You seriously lack perspective if that is your view.

 

[njac]

You seriously lack perspective if that is your view.

I think that depends on a lot.

But I'm pretty sure I'm in Camp A at the moment.

 

[J ROD]

Forget that condom and carry a gun!!

Second amendment!!

That's how I stopped a carjacker from getting me. He had a gun and so did I.

I asked him what he wanted to do. He ran off like a little, B*tch!

I'm a little crazier than most though.

in the streets.

 

[OSUpharmy]

You seriously lack perspective if that is your view.

I'll bet you consider rape as serious as I do if you really think about it. No doubt you would die saving your child from being raped without blinking an eye but not sacrifice your life to prevent your kid from being mugged.

If nothing was more important than self preservation then there would be no United States. There are things more important than being alive. Maybe I should ask the men, "Would you rather die than be raped by another man?".

 

[OSUpharmy]

Forget that condom and carry a gun!!

Second amendment!!

That's how I stopped a carjacker from getting me. He had a gun and so did I.

I asked him what he wanted to do. He ran off like a little, B*tch!

I'm a little crazier than most though.

in the streets.

You are crazy but you are also awesome!!

 

[Brixius]

I'll bet you consider rape as serious as I do if you really think about it. No doubt you would die saving your child from being raped without blinking an eye but not sacrifice your life to prevent your kid from being mugged.

If nothing was more important than self preservation then there would be no United States. There are things more important than being alive. Maybe I should ask the men, "Would you rather die than be raped by another man?".

I'd rather die than let my child be beaten up by another person ... same with rape. I'd wager most people are the same. And no, I wouldn't rather die rather than be raped by a man -- I'm a grown-up who doesn't think his anus is lined with gold. I have perspective.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

I'd give my life to protect my child. I'd also, were I in a situation where my own life was threatened, do everything in my power to escape with my life so that I can continue to be around to protect my child. A dead mother does her no good.

 

[OSUpharmy]

I'm a grown-up who doesn't think his anus is lined with gold. I have perspective.

I guess what I am arguing about is the whole underlying feeling of "I'm not too good to be raped." But like it was said before, each person has their own opinion of worth and what they are willing to endure. It is kind of stupid to discuss things that may or may not happen to other people when no one has any certainty. It is after all their decision to use a product if they wish it and not a bunch of bumbling pharmacists or pharmacy students (myself included) to decide the what if. In the end, yeah I would sell it and not create a committee about it. That is the mature thing oooooOOOOOOoooooh. Mature mature mature mature mature. There now I have filled my quota of using that word which seems to be required in every forum. "No no I'm mature!", "Now the mature thing to do is.....", "If you were mature like me......Then you would use the word mature to make a point in any conversation." 😛

 

[JwY]

I guess what I am arguing about is the whole underlying feeling of "I'm not too good to be raped." But like it was said before, each person has their own opinion of worth and what they are willing to endure. It is kind of stupid to discuss things that may or may not happen to other people when no one has any certainty. It is after all their decision to use a product if they wish it and not a bunch of bumbling pharmacists or pharmacy students (myself included) to decide the what if. In the end, yeah I would sell it and not create a committee about it. That is the mature thing oooooOOOOOOoooooh. Mature mature mature mature mature. There now I have filled my quota of using that word which seems to be required in every forum. "No no I'm mature!", "Now the mature thing to do is.....", "If you were mature like me......Then you would use the word mature to make a point in any conversation." 😛

The problem is that most of us in this thread aren't arguing about whether being raped is worse than dying. It just sounds like you're assuming that's what most of us are saying. I was merely commenting on the product itself and whether something like this would be a good solution under those circumstances and potential outcomes.

As for whether I'd sell this at this stage of development, the answer would be no. It's simply too early in development to tell. With proper testing and studies to help ensure safety to the user, then potentially I would say yes. The idea is there, but still has a long way to go. It's still an inventors' website afterall, so what's mentioned can only be taken at face value.

I agree that it's up to the individual, however, a good pharmacist should help the patient make an informed decision with both pros and cons and potential consequences. For example, it could be effective in given a victim time to run for help, but at the same time it could back fire and it may not work if it was a gang attack. Pharmacists should have an obligation to evaluate and look at what they sell and not merely sell it. Maybe it's just that your post gives off the impression that you're saying you'll sell it and then mind your own business because the person should make their own choice. This probably isn't what you mean.

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

I just wonder what woman in America feels the need to use this thing. I've never been so worried I am going to get raped that I need to insert some vaginal device.

I would definetly fight back no matter what- weapon or not. Although, I am also a gun slinger so I am not too worried about it. Fight crime, shoot back.

 

[timbutt2]

"I'm not defending the rapists that would be hurt by this, but what about a vindictive wife/partner that wanted to get even?"

Lorena Bobbett didn't need a rape-x to get even with her husband. 😀

I don't think "a woman might try and get even with her husband" is a valid enough reason not to sell one. There probably are valid reasons, but that's not one of them.

What's wrong with mace, anyway? I carry it on my walks--not to deter men--but dogs (as in *ruff, ruff*).

Then again a woman may try to use it on her husband--maybe we shouldn't sell it--or guns for that matter, a woman could try and use that, too...

 

[Brixius]

If somebody ever makes a comment about my hair I hope it kills me. I mean, damn, some things are worse than dying.

Don't say I'm shallow, I have great hair and if you disagree with my opinion you just don't value your hair as much as you should.