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[Mo007]

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Hi Guys

I set up this thread for a close friend of mine who wants to know more than WHAT I THINK of his DAT and GPA scores.

You guys can post few schools that he could get into if you dont mind.

Here are his scores:

He is a Minority student, applying very EARLY in the cycle - May, 2004 for fall 2005.

GPA: 3.5 - Sci: 3.4

DAT: Organic-19, GC-19, TS-18, Bio-17, PAT-17, AA-17, RC-15, QR-14

Thanks Fellas n Fillets 🙂

 

[Mo007]

Quick Slvr

No more 🙁 , No more 😕 , and definetly no more .

Good Luck with Tufts.

 

[primerz]

Dude, you have enough opinions. Do us all a favor now and just *. You continually bump this thread meaning that you obviously have nothing better to do in your life than start and continue stupid conversations about some * none of us have ever met.

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*edited by DrMom*

 

[Mo007]

Originally posted by primerz
... Do us all a favor now and just STFU... you obviously have nothing better to do in your life than start and continue stupid conversations about some cocksucker none of us have ever met... Here's a good site you might like www.moveon.org...

Wow!

First of all, I am not going to make a showdown out of those remarks, but I am so astonished with this aggression, and wonder how any moderator will allow that to stand.

2nd of all, SDN is about helping each other, not a place to slur on other people, even if you feel to do so. I don't understand why your attitude to my queries on this thread is pessimistic, and what exactly makes you think it's wrong to continue getting more opinions from other members. If you find this thread annoying, then don't share your insolence with the people that this thread might concern.

If you have something personal to say - PM me, but dont post your nuisance, and feel good about it.

Get better sarcastic jokes. 😀

 

[primerz]

*edited by DrMom*

multiple TOS violations

 

[Mo007]

primerz

"Banned" is my favorite sin.

 

[PERFECT3435]

you know i really don't understand why people start things like primerz.


if you don't like it, LEAVE. you don't have to read it.
unfortunately, there are few other immature kids like him still fooling around SDN and will hopefully be banned as well.

 

[HBomb]

I'm relatively new to SDN, and this is the first time I've seen this thread. That being said, I know why you had a 20% response of "retake". It's because you failed to mention what schools your friend was applying to. Certainly the GPA was good, but the scores were only average. So if you listed schools that were traditionally less competitive (in terms of incoming class scores), I'm sure the 20% "retake" reply would have been a lot lower.

 

[Mo007]

Originally posted by HBomb888
I'm relatively new to SDN, and this is the first time I've seen this thread. That being said, I know why you had a 20% response of "retake". It's because you failed to mention what schools your friend was applying to. Certainly the GPA was good, but the scores were only average. So if you listed schools that were traditionally less competitive (in terms of incoming class scores), I'm sure the 20% "retake" reply would have been a lot lower.

The 3 things to consider on top of the stats are:

1. Applying in May.
2. Minority Status.
3. Applying to his State Schools - Ohio State (and other private schools like Case, Tufts and Nova).

Having emphasised that in the begining, fewer people might have said "re-take" the DAT. The poll still shows that this applicant will have small problems getting in to those schools, and majority of the private schools.

 

[HBomb]

Originally posted by Mo007
The 3 things to consider on top of the stats are:

1. Applying in May.
2. Minority Status.
3. Applying to his State Schools - Ohio State (and other private schools like Case, Tufts and Nova).

Having emphasised that in the begining, fewer people might have said "re-take" the DAT. The poll still shows that this applicant will have small problems getting in to those schools, and majority of the private schools.

I don't know a lot about Case, Tufts and Nova, but I guess my point was that if the candidate wanted to go to these schools in particular (and if the DAT scores were competitive for these schools), then it wouldn't make too much sense to retake the DAT. If, on the other hand, the candidate wanted to also see if he/she could get into say Harvard (I'm taking the extreme case), then I'd say retake. Obviously there are some schools that would make a grey, middle ground.

Sounds like things worked out for your friend (with Tufts, correct?).

 

[Mo007]

Yep.

 

[sxr71]

Originally posted by ShawnOne
Just to clear things up...

I had 4 LORs. 3 from professors, 1 from dentist.

After the LORs were sent, the professors emailed me a copy. All three were very positive.

My letter from the dentist was GREAT. I have a great relationship with my mentor, and he wrote me a kick-ass letter.

I applied in mid June. Definately not late.

I was told my pesonal statement was good by a couple interviewers.

I have had a perfect 4.0 in my last 60 units (including all my BCP classes)

negatives:
my application lacks research experience. I had none.
I got a 16 in RC which was offset by a 25 in ochem. (other scores were 20's)

I was not granted an interview at Tufts. Just a straight out rejection. I was also not granted an interview at Loma Linda (no surprise, I'm jewish), Arizona (I wrote a real $hitty essay on the secondary just to finish it), and Tufts (I have no idea why).

You have an awesome application with solid grades, and a solid DAT (one 16 won't hurt you since the rest of your scores are solid). I can't understand for the life of me what Tufts has on their mind. I have what I feel to be good stats and I haven't heard anything from them. I am expecting my rejection to come soon (what else if I haven't been invited to interview yet?). This process is the weirdest thing sometimes. I seriously wonder if there is an upper cut off sometimes (and I'm not trying to be arrogant when I say that). It's almost like a school telling you that they don't really want to improve their stats and they want to keep it right where it is.

 

[Mo007]

Originally posted by sxr71
This process is the weirdest thing sometimes. I seriously wonder if there is an upper cut off sometimes (and I'm not trying to be arrogant when I say that). It's almost like a school telling you that they don't really want to improve their stats and they want to keep it right where it is.

Maybe.... Here is one possibility.

We all know most schools strongly emphasize - an incomplete application means NO interview, regardless of how good your GPA/DAT scores are. Even though you think your application is complete, it's wise to check with the school they have things in order... just to be on the safe side.

I can't think of any other reason - when someone who has the stats like ShawnOne is rejected with no logical reason (It would be interesting to know what the reasons were on the actual rejection letter).

That's the only thing I can think off.... Admission's Office Organization Errors, which could easily lead to incomplete files. Who can really say that can NEVER happen? - when a school gets so many applications, things can slip-up... specially schools with a large application pool.

Oh well... I guess it pays off to apply to multiple-schools afterall.

 

[HBomb]

That's the only thing I can think off.... Admission's Office Organization Error, which could easily lead to incomplete files. Who can really say that can NEVER happen? - when a school gets so many applications, things can slip-up... specially schools with a large application pool.

Oh well... I guess it pays off to apply to multiple-schools afterall.

Mo007,

Great point. I think this happens more often than anyone of us would like to believe. I just imagine it so easy for some documents or files get lost...or perhaps unattended to. A friend of mine (recent dental school graduate) told me that this is one reason why I should consistently check up/call the admissions offices to all the schools that I've applied, so that they can put a voice to a name to a file, and perhaps lowering the chances of things being misplaced.

 

[Mo007]

Schools expect you to monitor the status of your file (Complete or Incomplete) by calling the admission's office... and it doesn't even take 1 mins.

Imagine getting rejected due to an incomplete file... and your stats were very competitive. It's a critical responsibility that many take for granted.

 

[my1molar]

apply AS an earliest bird!!!!

 

[Woodsy]

just apply early, i'm sure you'll get in if you apply early!

 

[sxr71]

Some schools just do not want to talk to applicants at all. For example every time I called Tufts they asked me several times whether I've checked my status on Infosource before letting me speak to someone who has access to admissions information. After being very assertive about speaking to someone who really has something to do with admissions, all I got was "your application is complete and is under review, please check infosource for future status updates." One time I got a whole explanation of how they received a record number of applicants this year, that they don't have time to answer everybody who calls and that people should just check Infosource. Quite frankly the message I got was far from "Schools expect you to monitor the status of your file (Complete or Incomplete) by calling the admission's office..." and closer to "please stop calling us and bothering us."

On the contrary some schools have been absolutely a joy to contact by phone. Columbia stands out in this way, Dr. McMannus picks up the phone personally most of the time. UOP was a good experience in that the person who picked up was able to access my application and look at my stats and give me valuble information (however the previous times I called them I got the standard "your app is in review"). UMICH was also great in that the person who picked up was knowledgeable and had application status information every time I called. Even at NYU you can get connected to Amy Knowles who is very professional and can give you first hand information on your application.

Anyhow, after hearing that your application is complete and under review there's really nothing you can do unless you are local to the school.

 

[Mo007]

"please stop calling us and bothering us."

I think many schools believe in info-source so much... they just don't realize how usless the service can be when it comes to specific information about the applicant's status.

I think they should change the updating recurrency. AADSAS should consider making it at least twice a week. That way, school's can update the information mid-week and end of week... they can make a full use of this system.

Some schools are not even part of infosource, and have poor admission's office status checkers! - sometimes, you just have to accept these hussles that is not worth our $$$.

 

[Mo007]

just apply early, i'm sure you'll get in if you apply early!

Hope so. 👍