Reapplying

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

1289

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2012
Messages
1,400
Reaction score
3
Hey all,
So I am currently sitting on 2 waitlists, and as much as I can hope and dream I will get off of one, I have to be realistic and start thinking about reapplying. I'm just wondering from anyone out there who reapplied and then got accepted, what sort of improvements did you make to your app? Did you wait a full year before reapplying? I feel that I've already made significant improvements as far as volunteering/patient exposure goes in the last few months, unfortunately a lot of schools will not accept updates. Also my MCAT is a 29R, - currently enrolled in a June 21st one, focusing on Verbal and Physical (got 9's in both). Any input anyone can give me would be sooooooooo appreciated.
 
I took a full year off before reapplying, because I didn't think my application had substantially improved while I was applying.

I did a variety of things in that year. I had started working in a physician's office shortly before my interviews, and continued that job for a while, then started working as a phlebotomist in a hospital. Both gave me a lot more perspective that I was lacking on my first application.

I also had some unique experiences... I became the legal guardian for both my youngest sisters, I worked in direct sales for a little while, and I managed a household on my own, none of which I did prior to my application. So, I grew up a lot.

I should note that the biggest weaknesses on my application were clinical experience and experience in general (I was 19 when I initially applied). I had stellar stats, so I didn't bother trying to bolster them at all, and I came up with a realistic plan for what I would do if I didn't get accepted.
 
I always found this kind of annoying. I mean, you realize in mid April that maybe you won't be going to medical school after all, and then you have to submit another app in June to improve your odds. So that gives you, what, 6 weeks to suddenly and massively improve your application? How does anybody do it?
 
I always found this kind of annoying. I mean, you realize in mid April that maybe you won't be going to medical school after all, and then you have to submit another app in June to improve your odds. So that gives you, what, 6 weeks to suddenly and massively improve your application? How does anybody do it?
right?! i started to realize back in january that i may not be getting in this year which is when i quickly began pursuing new clinical opportunities to improve my app. i honestly cannot fathom waiting another year to apply, which would mean that i wouldnt start medical school for another 2 years, yikes. and in the meantime im still in limbo with these two waitlists?
 
I reapplied back to back and was accepted the 2nd round (1 acceptance, 3 interviews). However, I was rebuilding my apps before my secondary requests arrived the first time. I had low MCAT so knew that I needed to do other impressive things just in case.

I took a load of science classes in the summer and fall and then planned to retake the MCAT in the spring. I improved my GPA with more recent coursework, karate-kicked my MCAT from 26-38 (see my 15 lessons thread) and began working at a community college supporting academic success in the primarily hispanic population. I shadowed in pediatric surgery and moved from the hospital info desk to the nurses ward at my volunteer program. I added a research project to my resume (statistical analysis of the community college academic program). Research was another big weakness on my application so I was glad to generate one. . . I only currently have one acceptance and I think that if I had found a way to get involved with bench/cellular research in that year my acceptances would have increased significantly.

I agree with MT Headed: 6 weeks is not enough time to significantly adjust anything except maybe the personal statement. Brutally identify your weaknesses and then obliterate them before you apply again. I would also recommend finding recent literature about the health care industry and reform to give you a knowledge base to complement your experiences. This will really help your interviews where you can be asked questions about the industry, what you would do to change it, what sort of discoveries you have made in your own path, etc. There are thousands of great books. I recently read Checklist Manifesto, Man Who Mistook His Wife For a Hat and Why Hospitals Should Fly. I keep finding more.

Regarding the panic about starting medical school with an additional 2 years wait than you wanted, I am 30 and I think MT Headed is a career changer too?? Don't look at 2 years with impatience. Look at two years with excitement . . . it is an opportunity! Your passion for this academic path should drive you to find new and significant opportunities for personal growth, leadership, research, community support and not to mention MCAT excellence.

Good Luck!
 
I know what you mean OP. I'm waitlisted at 3 schools, and I'm starting to come to the painful realization that I may be applying again. I have been improving my app, mainly by tutoring for a living, and doing a lot more shadowing. But in the back of my head I keep thinking I should have maybe been improving my MCAT (3.8/31S). I'm going to start working on a new PS (I think my last one hurt me), and get ready to apply just in case, even if I get accepted :luck:. Good luck to us both..
 
I always found this kind of annoying. I mean, you realize in mid April that maybe you won't be going to medical school after all, and then you have to submit another app in June to improve your odds. So that gives you, what, 6 weeks to suddenly and massively improve your application? How does anybody do it?
I totally agree. I am the parent of an applicant. I told him the same thing you said. By the time you hear back it is too late really do any major improvements.
My opinion is they could let applicants know where they stand a lot sooner instead of waiting months.

I feel for all of you. This is a really long drawn out processes.
 
Hey all,
So I am currently sitting on 2 waitlists, and as much as I can hope and dream I will get off of one, I have to be realistic and start thinking about reapplying. I'm just wondering from anyone out there who reapplied and then got accepted, what sort of improvements did you make to your app? Did you wait a full year before reapplying? I feel that I've already made significant improvements as far as volunteering/patient exposure goes in the last few months, unfortunately a lot of schools will not accept updates. Also my MCAT is a 29R, - currently enrolled in a June 21st one, focusing on Verbal and Physical (got 9's in both). Any input anyone can give me would be sooooooooo appreciated.

Reapplicant here. Last year I got 3 interviews, 1 rejection, and 2 waitlists with no luck. Instead of focusing on just applying to medical schools, I spent a good deal of time continually doing things to become a better applicant, and equally as importantly refining my motivations for pursuing such a demanding career. If there are no major differences between this application and the one you will have to submit in 2 months, then don't submit. Take a year off, like some people are saying, to expand your horizons, collect yourself, and come into the subsequent cycle guns blazing.

What I did between cycles was: become involved in the community doing something that you have a connection with. As someone who struggled with illness in my adolescent years, I helped develop a support group for adolescents who spend a good deal of time in the hospital. If you can, get involved with research -- don't worry about publishing, but it CAN be a huge boon to your application if you can manage it. Don't count on getting published in a little over a year though. Again, find something that interests you and see if you have connections with research faculty, or if not, send out some emails or phone calls. There are many, many researchers out there that drool over a free pair of hands to run their ELISAs and collect data. 😉 It also may help you pick up a new letter of recommendation or two.

The other thing I did was pursue a major personal goal -- for me it was racing a marathon. You don't have to run a marathon, but pick a goal. Set your sights realistically high and accomplish what you set out to do. It not only gives you something unique to talk about, but also shows that you are not a pre-med robot...that you're a real person who has passions and can adequately organize your lifestyle for such tasks.

Most importantly, apply EARLY, and apply BROADLY. This is probably some of the first advice you ever heard, but it is one of the easiest ways you can bolster your odds. Apply to as many schools as you can afford to without breaking the bank (remember you still have to go interview...and the whole not starving thing...).

Whatever you do, NEVER stop improving yourself as an applicant, and as a person. If you keep growing, your resume will begin to speak for itself.

This year I received 7 interviews, and have thus far gotten 2 acceptances, 4 waitlists...and 1 school I've yet to interview at 😱 If you really want to make this a reality, it's going to take sacrifice from where you are, but it is more than possible.
 
I feel you man. I didn't even consider reapplying the last few months but now I feel that I have to submit a whole 'nother application in June. Just got my 5th waitlist last week. Interviewed at 7 schools, rejected at 1, waitlisted at 5, and pending at 1. I'm not sure where I went wrong with this cycle. Its strange considering two schools I was waitlisted at btold me during the interview that they would vouch for me. I hear it from everyone telling me its basically 50/50 to get in if you are waitlisted, but I'm not so sure about it...
 
I feel you man. I didn't even consider reapplying the last few months but now I feel that I have to submit a whole 'nother application in June. Just got my 5th waitlist last week. Interviewed at 7 schools, rejected at 1, waitlisted at 5, and pending at 1. I'm not sure where I went wrong with this cycle. Its strange considering two schools I was waitlisted at btold me during the interview that they would vouch for me. I hear it from everyone telling me its basically 50/50 to get in if you are waitlisted, but I'm not so sure about it...

You have enough waitlists for me to say not to worry yet. It's barely april and most schools don't start dipping into their wait lists until after May 15th. This month you should focus on updating the schools you are waiting on and tell them you are interested and why. With 5 wait lists (maybe 6), I would say your odds are in your favor.
 
I always found this kind of annoying. I mean, you realize in mid April that maybe you won't be going to medical school after all, and then you have to submit another app in June to improve your odds. So that gives you, what, 6 weeks to suddenly and massively improve your application? How does anybody do it?

Yea I have definitely thought about this before. The whole process is krap. But when I applied I went in with the mindset that I wasn't going to get in anywhere and just kept doing stuff to improve my application. You also pretty much have the whole summer to do stuff.
 
I'm an reapplicant this year who got waitlisted last year and did not get in, but got in this this year. OP, fortunately, you were interviewed this year so the med schools that you interviewed at will be a lot more willing to talk to you about why they did not select you so I'd definitely look into that when the time comes.

In the meantime, I'd try to do a thorough assessment both to yourself and to maybe people close to you who you think know enough about the medical school process Look through all processes and see what you can improve on-- I ended up realizing I needed to write a much better PS (and even bought a book on how to write a med school personal statement), applying much earlier (refused to have myself submit secondaries in October this year--they were all done by August this year), and to give myself even more security I even took the ultimate risk of signing up for a Master's program because I knew my science GPA was a weakness. You have all summer to shore up things (if it's really significant, you can even notate this in your primary) and whatever you do next year, I think should be something that you think could be powerful when you provide updates.

One thing you will realize though if you reapply is that med schools really don't seem to put much weight into update letters written the year of unless you've gotten to the interview/waitlist stage. I went from 2 interview invites to significantly more this year and I really think it had to do with schools actually seeing what I did last year on the primary application; I wrote updates on it last year but it didn't seem to make an impact until this cycle.

Last thing, don't give up this year! Keep being persistent! We haven't reached May 15th yet so movement isn't truly going to come until right after!
 
Last edited:
I applied last year and got waitlisted, reapplied this year and got accepted to 2. I already knew beforehand that the biggest red flag on my app was my mcat score (28L), so of course retaking the mcat was already a given (managed to improve it to a 31O). I called the school I got waitlisted at to see how I could improve my app and they told me to retake the mcat and get more shadowing, so I did, and they accepted me this year. So I would consider calling the schools that you interviewed at to see what you can do.

Besides the mcat and shadowing, I took more effort with my app - I redid my PS (not completely, but it was still different) and wrote more for the activity descriptions (I also put more activities than I did the year before that I didn't think of putting). I'm not sure if it made much of a difference, but it's really the only other thing I did differently besides retaking the mcat and getting more shadowing. But I think this worked for me because I don't think I needed improvement in other areas - I had good volunteering experiences and my GPA is good. The red flags on my app were easy to fix.

GL!
 
I am currently wait listed at my top school, met with them to see what I could improve on, and (to my surprise) they said that my application was very strong and that I simply got my application in too late (which was around november). When I asked what I could improve on they said all aspects of my application were solid and the one thing I could improve my MCAT score.

Here is the thing, I applied to very few schools last year from a lack of confidence in my MCAT (29), in fact I applied only to the school with which I am wait-listed on and to a backup (I know, I know). So even though it will be the first time I am applying to the majority of schools this upcoming application, they will be able to see my prior applications along with my new one... Will it look poorly if my application has not drastically changed from last years to this years besides an improved MCAT score, a new PS, a new LOR, and some new activities? The school with which I am wait listed at said my application is strong enough that those are the few things I would need to improve on and that most importantly I need to get my application in as early as possible this time. Is it dangerous to accept this advice or?? Please let me know what you guys think!
 
I am currently wait listed at my top school, met with them to see what I could improve on, and (to my surprise) they said that my application was very strong and that I simply got my application in too late (which was around november). When I asked what I could improve on they said all aspects of my application were solid and the one thing I could improve my MCAT score.

Here is the thing, I applied to very few schools last year from a lack of confidence in my MCAT (29), in fact I applied only to the school with which I am wait-listed on and to a backup (I know, I know). So even though it will be the first time I am applying to the majority of schools this upcoming application, they will be able to see my prior applications along with my new one... Will it look poorly if my application has not drastically changed from last years to this years besides an improved MCAT score, a new PS, a new LOR, and some new activities? The school with which I am wait listed at said my application is strong enough that those are the few things I would need to improve on and that most importantly I need to get my application in as early as possible this time. Is it dangerous to accept this advice or?? Please let me know what you guys think!

I'm 99% sure that any new schools you add will not see your old application.

That said, if you change all that you stated, that's quite a bit different from your past application. Presumably you've been doing something this past year, rather than sitting around on a couch all day, so I don't see what else you could've done to improve your application (knowing that I'm looking at the surface only). Applying early can make all the difference as well.
 
I applied during 2008-2009 cycle (graduated college May 2009), got 8 interviews, 5 waitlists, and got off none.

I re-applied this year, got 4 interviews, and got 3 acceptances 🙂

In the meantime I retook the MCAT (31 --> 35). I have also been working in a top-notch research lab, full-time. While I have no publications, I think the experience I had was valuable (and some med schools realized that), and the project I took on was risky in terms of publication prospects... I initially didn't intend on taking off 3 years, but it took me that long to (1) get out of "::shock:: omg I didn't get into med school?!"-mode and enter recovery mode, and (2) solidify my intentions on pursuing medicine (being out of school and seeing people in the "real world" who had a more comfortable life with reasonable earning shook me a little... also the prospect of perhaps considering graduate school). I really have no regrets about taking 3 years off, and while it was really tough, I think I learned so much in the past 3 years that will help me out in the long run 🙂 I don't think I would have felt this ready to enter medicine had I come straight out of college. Anyway, if you have any questions, feel free to PM me! Good luck.
 
wow this thread is full of gems! Thanks!
 
Top