Mman said:
Why don't we just make a list of the 25 programs that are all arguably in the top 10 and the next 50 that are all arguably top 30.
I'll start with the some of the top 10s: BWH, MGH, Hopkins, Penn, Columbia, Duke, Florida, UAB, Michigan, Baylor, Stanford, UCSF, Washington, Northwestern, Chicago, Wisconsin, Pitt, etc.
Apologies to the other top 10s I inadvertently didn't rattle off the top of my head
My impressions of a few of these:
MGH-
"It's MGH"
It's hard to not feel important walking around at MGH as a candidate, and I believe that you will see pretty much *everything* there, and have the opportunity to do tons of research and be a highly respected academic as well as clinician. Arguably one of the "true" top ten.
Boston is fun. Boston is cold. Boston is expensive.
Work hours were explained to us as long, and sometimes very long. We were shown a histogram of hours/week and the right tail trailed out past 80. How this occurs, I am not sure. The explanation we were given was vague - "sometimes this happens in the ICU months". The more time I spent there, the more the glamour wore off, and the reality of cramped recovery rooms and residents babysitting patients in the OR set in. This was confirmed by our tour guide. But... it's MGH. Honestly, I'd look past the "deficiencies" (long hard hours - which are not necessarily a bad thing) if you are set on a brand name program. Snob factor? Didn't get it from the faculty, or from most of the residents, but from a few for sure. Location is the main factor that dropped it to the middle of my list.
UAB -
One of my highly ranked programs, although location was again an issue. Incredible hospital setting, beautiful ORs, approachable faculty (although aren't they all on interview day?), and the residents seemed genuinely happy to be there. No wanting for cases of any kind from what I understand. Birmingham supposedly has a run-down part of the city, but I must have only seen the good side. Sunny and pretty, smaller city.
Strong reputation, perhaps more so in the South but I suspect this is changing. Research seemed to be not as plentiful at MGH, but definitely a possibility if one is interested.
UF -
Rubbed me the wrong way so I will keep this brief. Faculty seemed like good people, smart, pleasant. Residents came across as overworked. More than one came across as short-tempered or at least humorless at the lunch during the interview. The hours are known to be long, but with the benefit of most weekends off, so it supposedly evens out. Strong simulator experience. Strong reputation, etc etc. My personal take was that if I wanted to go to a workhorse program, I'd go to one where people seemed a little more genuine.
I strongly second Dr.Robert's assessment of both CWRU and UPMC, from personal and vicarious experience, respectively.