Remimazolam: Useful or Useless?

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A few articles have come out describing the characteristics of remimazolam infusions and it appears to have been approved for use in Japan as a general anesthetic.

Anybody think this will change your practice?



 
There's a whole lot of sick pts out there where if they require an ICU intubation or sedation for a relatively short case or something like that, it requires a judicious and skilled hand administering non-ideal drugs like etomidate and/or ketamine and/or propofol+pressor to make sure the pt doesn't die.

The lack of hemodynamic effects and the ability to get relatively profound but shortlived general anesthesia certainly piques my interest, but I'm sure it'll be too prohibitively expensive to join our formulary
 
Odds are will be an adjunct to the tried and true techniques...prop-sux-tube-vol agent...just like remi just like propofol infusions just like precedex. Game changers like ETCO2 or pulse oximetry or suggamadex come around once, maybe twice in a generation....Even propofol for induction wasn't really a game changer. Pentothal/Brevital works just fine....etomidate...don't let's get started.....
 
Odds are will be an adjunct to the tried and true techniques...prop-sux-tube-vol agent...just like remi just like propofol infusions just like precedex. Game changers like ETCO2 or pulse oximetry or suggamadex come around once, maybe twice in a generation....Even propofol for induction wasn't really a game changer. Pentothal/Brevital works just fine....etomidate...don't let's get started.....
Agree though I would say propofol for MAC usage has been a game changer. I would also add ultrasound and the glidescope to your list.
 
Odds are will be an adjunct to the tried and true techniques...prop-sux-tube-vol agent...just like remi just like propofol infusions just like precedex. Game changers like ETCO2 or pulse oximetry or suggamadex come around once, maybe twice in a generation....Even propofol for induction wasn't really a game changer. Pentothal/Brevital works just fine....etomidate...don't let's get started.....

How can you say propofol wasn't a game changer when 99% of MACs and generals now involve propofol...
 
If it’s cheap enough then I can see a big change in the gi centers that exploit anesthesia services.

It’s a new drug. Won’t be cheap. Think like the early days of precedex and remifentanil.

I don’t use a ton of versed these days, especially In the elderly. Even a huge cardiac case it’s max of 5. And it is literally dirt cheap. Medicine in general is getting away from BDZs, and rightfully so with the delirium/worsened dementia seen. I don’t see much of a use, personally. We have a short acting, titratable hypnotic (propofol) and narcotic (remifentanil). Propofol in particular is pretty cheap. Given good supply of both I don’t see much need for a rapid BDZ.
 
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How can you say propofol wasn't a game changer when 99% of MACs and generals now involve propofol...
If by MAC you mean what used to be sedation with local, I don't disagree. But what propofol (a great drug) has done is make ham handed surgeons think general anesthesia only comes through a tube and that they're geniuses when it comes to local field blocks when all the time their patients are out cold. One drug replacing another doesn't make it a game changer. It's more of a technique change than anything else, IMO...
 
If by MAC you mean what used to be sedation with local, I don't disagree. But what propofol (a great drug) has done is make ham handed surgeons think general anesthesia only comes through a tube and that they're geniuses when it comes to local field blocks when all the time their patients are out cold. One drug replacing another doesn't make it a game changer. It's more of a technique change than anything else, IMO...

Exactly. Surgeons expect sedation nowadays as GA without an airway. Some surgeons demand sedation but complain when patients move because they suck with local.
 
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