Repeat of 2020?

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Coronavirus cases are rising in 20 U.S. states with sharp spikes in Arizona, North Carolina and California

Health officials in Utah, Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee and more than a dozen other states confirmed recent increases in virus cases.

www.newsweek.com

As an incoming 3rd year, should I prepare for a year full of online modules?

 

[Goro]

My Immunologist colleague thinks a vaccine is six months away.

Lectures might very well be a one year thing, but those required labs have to be somehow!

 

[Sardonix]

Coronavirus cases are rising in 20 U.S. states with sharp spikes in Arizona, North Carolina and California

Health officials in Utah, Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee and more than a dozen other states confirmed recent increases in virus cases.

www.newsweek.com

As an incoming 3rd year, should I prepare for a year full of online modules?

It may depend on the conditions of your rotations sites. But the main issue limiting students this Spring, outside of major epicenters at least, was lack of PPE and staffing changes/clinics closing for sanitary reasons. So long as facilities have fixed those issues the chances of returning to rotations is better.

 

[FutureDoctor5000]

Coronavirus cases are rising in 20 U.S. states with sharp spikes in Arizona, North Carolina and California

Health officials in Utah, Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee and more than a dozen other states confirmed recent increases in virus cases.

www.newsweek.com

As an incoming 3rd year, should I prepare for a year full of online modules?

Nah, most schools I know are starting rotations in July/August.. The Who recently has said that the coronavirus May have been around since last October or even longer, new studies have put the effective mortality rate at 0.2-0.3% likely even lower in younger people, due to many asymptotic people and oh btw The Who also said yesterday that it’s very very rare to have an asymptotic person spread it... cases rising is very different then the hospitalizations and death which have been going down consistently, the cases are rising in part due to increase testing which is catching more asymptotic people, also I mean the majority of the country has opened up its business like movie theaters and bowling alleys, if you can go bowling there is no way you ain’t going on rotations Lolol

 

[BeLikeH2O]

Nah, most schools I know are starting rotations in July/August.. The Who recently has said that the coronavirus May have been around since last October or even longer, new studies have put the effective mortality rate at 0.2-0.3% likely even lower in younger people, due to many asymptotic people and oh btw The Who also said yesterday that it’s very very rare to have an asymptotic person spread it... cases rising is very different then the hospitalizations and death which have been going down consistently, the cases are rising in part due to increase testing which is catching more asymptotic people, also I mean the majority of the country has opened up its business like movie theaters and bowling alleys, if you can go bowling there is no way you ain’t going on rotations Lolol

Sounds like NBOME is thinking the same way and we are good to go for Level 2 PE.

 

[SurgDoc95]

Sounds like NBOME is thinking the same way and we are good to go for Level 2 PE.

Except the 50% of us who aren’t going to have a score by match time. What a bunch of BS


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[FutureDoctor5000]

Sounds like NBOME is thinking the same way and we are good to go for Level 2 PE.

I thought they said you didn’t have to take it and it can be waved

 

[SurgDoc95]

I thought they said you didn’t have to take it and it can be waved

Waived to graduate, but the nbome is against blinding programs from seeing it on eras and is planning to go full speed ahead with the exam as soon as they can. Can’t lose the $$$


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[FutureDoctor5000]

Waived to graduate, but the nbome is against blinding programs from seeing it on eras and is planning to go full speed ahead with the exam as soon as they can. Can’t lose the $$$


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Lol wut... I am soo confused.. smh, like if your waving it for graduation and MD’s don’t have to take CS either then why can’t you blind it on eras? They need to just cancel the exam at this point

 

[SurgDoc95]

Lol wut... I am soo confused.. smh, like if your waving it for graduation and MD’s don’t have to take CS either then why can’t you blind it on eras? They need to just cancel the exam at this point

It’$ e$$ential


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[BeLikeH2O]

It’$ e$$ential


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just pay the money to the DOn of the NBOME family. LOL.

 

[Espressso]

Nah, most schools I know are starting rotations in July/August.. The Who recently has said that the coronavirus May have been around since last October or even longer, new studies have put the effective mortality rate at 0.2-0.3% likely even lower in younger people, due to many asymptotic people and oh btw The Who also said yesterday that it’s very very rare to have an asymptotic person spread it... cases rising is very different then the hospitalizations and death which have been going down consistently, the cases are rising in part due to increase testing which is catching more asymptotic people, also I mean the majority of the country has opened up its business like movie theaters and bowling alleys, if you can go bowling there is no way you ain’t going on rotations Lolol

Just as a side note: cases AND hospitalizations and ICU admissions have been rising in a good handful of states. Not to mention, we're still averaging ~1000 national deaths a day. We're in a epidemic steady state, on a national level. In other areas (TX, AZ, NC, FL, GA) the epidemic is expanding. They never really had their "first wave" anyways. I'm not sure where OP goes to school but if it's in a state with an expanding epidemic, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that hospitals might pause their rotations.

As another poster has said though, lack of PPE was the big issue for us this past Spring. That shouldn't be an issue this upcoming school year. Now how it all plays out with the beginning of the flu season is a whole separate topic.

 

[FutureDoctor5000]

Just as a side note: cases AND hospitalizations and ICU admissions have been rising in a good handful of states. Not to mention, we're still averaging ~1000 national deaths a day. We're in a epidemic steady state, on a national level. In other areas (TX, AZ, NC, FL, GA) the epidemic is expanding. They never really had their "first wave" anyways. I'm not sure where OP goes to school but if it's in a state with an expanding epidemic, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that hospitals might pause their rotations.

As another poster has said though, lack of PPE was the big issue for us this past Spring. That shouldn't be an issue this upcoming school year. Now how it all plays out with the beginning of the flu season is a whole separate topic.

Tbh it’s unavoidable sadly, no one is going to stay home and shut everything forever, it’s unrealistic to think that, there won’t be a vaccine till next year possibly even longer and will take even longer to distribute, it was expected that cases and hospitalizations would rise but they havent been rising exponentially anywhere so that’s good. The main thing will be to protect the most vulnerable till there is a vaccine. I doubt that hospitals stop taking students anywhere since less than a month ago many were sitting idle, laying off doctors and nurses due to lack to patients, now people are finally coming in since states have opened up, are there people coming in with covid sure, but it’s not overruning the hospitalizations capacity anywhere yet. The ppe issue is hopefully solved, the flu season could complicate things but that is a bridge we will cross when it comes..

 

[Kr#36]

Just as a side note: cases AND hospitalizations and ICU admissions have been rising in a good handful of states. Not to mention, we're still averaging ~1000 national deaths a day. We're in a epidemic steady state, on a national level. In other areas (TX, AZ, NC, FL, GA) the epidemic is expanding. They never really had their "first wave" anyways. I'm not sure where OP goes to school but if it's in a state with an expanding epidemic, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that hospitals might pause their rotations.

As another poster has said though, lack of PPE was the big issue for us this past Spring. That shouldn't be an issue this upcoming school year. Now how it all plays out with the beginning of the flu season is a whole separate topic.

I'm a 3rd year in one of those states and our rotations are online for the first 8 weeks as of now, who knows if it will be longer.

 

[Espressso]

Tbh it’s unavoidable sadly, no one is going to stay home and shut everything forever, it’s unrealistic to think that, there won’t be a vaccine till next year possibly even longer and will take even longer to distribute, it was expected that cases and hospitalizations would rise but they havent been rising exponentially anywhere so that’s good. The main thing will be to protect the most vulnerable till there is a vaccine. I doubt that hospitals stop taking students anywhere since less than a month ago many were sitting idle, laying off doctors and nurses due to lack to patients, now people are finally coming in since states have opened up, are there people coming in with covid sure, but it’s not overruning the hospitalizations capacity anywhere yet. The ppe issue is hopefully solved, the flu season could complicate things but that is a bridge we will cross when it comes..

No, I totally agree with all of that. I think my point was that for some areas it looks to be picking up. This will definitely be an eb and flow thing. At least until a solid therapeutic, which I don't think is too far off. Making sure hospitals/states are prepping for flu season is going to be huge. But that's obviously out of our control.

I'm a 3rd year in one of those states and our rotations are online for the first 8 weeks as of now, who knows if it will be longer.

Yeah, it really is going to be a fluid situation. I think as long as PPE isn't an issue they *should* bring students back. Assuming you're only working in one hospital. The movement of students between multiple hospitals changes the dynamic entirely because then we become vectors.

 

[cookiegrub]

all I can say to you guys is I'm sorry this is happening to 3rd and 4th years (like me). I am beyond upset at the fact that I could have been going into a completely different specialty or had peace of mind that I had seen all there was to explore. However, looking at it positively for you guys, if you are extremely interested in a field, please have your coordinator schedule it for the latter half of the year. In doing so you have much greater control of your situation unlike us incoming 4th years who had our rotations cut short. Additionally, it is highly doubtful that you will have your aways cancelled like us which for some specialties really makes or breaks a borderline or below average candidate. Do whatever you can that is in your power and know that though the year will start off looking like 2020 pandamonia, it will definitely end in a brighter note if you plan ahead.

 

[calivianya]

Rising third year here. I’m just about to lose my mind over this whole thing... I know you all are in the same boat.

I wouldn’t care if my school would just TELL me something, or make an administrative decision about when we are starting rotations. They gave a general thing for the local rotation people but said they’d handle the out of states on a case-by-case basis, and I have an out of state rotation.

As of now, we have stuff at school as late as 7/23 and my clinical site‘s last info was that I may be starting rotations on 7/15. I have absolutely no clue what to tell a moving company. I really need to know if I have to be in my new state before 7/15 or sometime after 7/23.

Right now, I’m really scared that they won’t tell me anything until it’s too late for me to lock in dates with a moving company, and I’ll be stuck sleeping on the floor in another state without any of my furniture, paying rent in two places, trying to figure out how to get my stuff shipped to my new place from 1,000 miles away. My clinical site is an hour and a half from the closest major airport, so it’s not going to be easy for me to just fly back and forth until things are worked out or anything.

Anyone else feel like they’re being totally hung out to dry by administration by being given overlapping dates for in-person course work and rotations?

 

[Kr#36]

Rising third year here. I’m just about to lose my mind over this whole thing... I know you all are in the same boat.

I wouldn’t care if my school would just TELL me something, or make an administrative decision about when we are starting rotations. They gave a general thing for the local rotation people but said they’d handle the out of states on a case-by-case basis, and I have an out of state rotation.

As of now, we have stuff at school as late as 7/23 and my clinical site‘s last info was that I may be starting rotations on 7/15. I have absolutely no clue what to tell a moving company. I really need to know if I have to be in my new state before 7/15 or sometime after 7/23.

Right now, I’m really scared that they won’t tell me anything until it’s too late for me to lock in dates with a moving company, and I’ll be stuck sleeping on the floor in another state without any of my furniture, paying rent in two places, trying to figure out how to get my stuff shipped to my new place from 1,000 miles away. My clinical site is an hour and a half from the closest major airport, so it’s not going to be easy for me to just fly back and forth until things are worked out or anything.

Anyone else feel like they’re being totally hung out to dry by administration by being given overlapping dates for in-person course work and rotations?

I feel this big time. Our school scheduled a make-up OMM practical during the week of 3rd year orientation despite the fact that they know most of the class hasn't taken step or comlex yet and should be focused on studying for that and not pseudo-science