report marijuana at interview?

[Decicco]

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Did you read my post? I would report a violent crime. Whether or not someone gets hurt does not make a crime violent, its the threat of violence that matters. Go to google, type: "define:violent crime"

 

[mountainhare]

Obviously, the OP is "well within his rights" to report what he saw. Obviously, "reporting someone is a personal choice." This is a free country, after all, and the OP can do whatever he wants. The point of the OP's question, however, was to ask us what we think he *should* do, not what we think he *can* do. This means we're supposed to weigh in and tell him what we would do if we were in his shoes. All these replies about "Snitches are uptight!" and "People who call people 'snitches' are uptight!" and "People who call people who call people 'snitches' 'uptight' are uptight!" are amusing, but beside the point.

Some people have opined that the OP should report the smokers because smoking pot at an interview is a "self-destructive" activity and a cause for "genuine concern." In my opinion, when someone is genuinely concerned about someone else, they try to *help* them. Causing someone to be rejected or kicked out of medical school is unlikely to *help* that person in any way; it is a punishment disproportionate to the crime. Nor is it likely to help their future patients, who are probably going to be just fine. (If the applicant you saw smoking is really likely to be the kind of horrible physician who endangers his patients, then there will be other telltale elements of his application that will lead adcoms to reject him or will lead his teachers to try to change him before he gets his MD degree.) If your attempts to get this person rejected or booted out are successful (which is highly unlikely), it might help *you* get the seat in the medical school that that person was going to get, but if those are your actual motives, don't lie to yourself and mask your feelings as "genuine concern."

If you are sincerely concerned about these smokers' well-being, there are a billion things you can do that would be much more helpful to them than reporting them to an adcom.

 

[OncoCaP]

Did you read my post? I would report a violent crime. Whether or not someone gets hurt does not make a crime violent, its the threat of violence that matters. http://www.google.com/search?q=defi...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

Ah OK. So, basically, you consider illegal drug use to not be a crime and that's why you wouldn't report it, correct?

 

[stereochemistry]

I would rethink going into medicine. You are obviously thrown by the fact that some people alter their mental states, even doctors... holy moly. It's possible that you will find the real world a bit different than the one you've been living; medical pursuits provide access to a serious dose of real living: suffering, failure, life, meaningless action, etcetera.

 

[OncoCaP]

I would rethink going into medicine. You are obviously thrown by the fact that some people alter their mental states, even doctors... holy moly. It's possible that you will find the real world a bit different than the one you've been living; medicine provides access to a serious dose of real living.

Not thrown by it at all. It's the school that makes the policy. If the school is "cool" with students smoking pot on campus, then I guess it would be ok then, right? It could be something they advertise: smoking pot is ok at our school! Too uptight about smoking pot? Don't even apply.

 

[stereochemistry]

Not thrown by it at all. It's the school that makes the policy. If the school is "cool" with smoking pot on campus, then I guess it would be ok then, right?

I wasn't speaking in reference to your post, only the initial poster.

 

[Decicco]

Ah OK. So, basically, you consider illegal drug use to not be a crime and that's why you wouldn't report it, correct?

.....No, its just not a violent crime. Drug use is a crime, and so is parking in a fire lane. I guess I just choose my battles. I don't get all worked up about nonviolent crimes like these, I leave that to the fuzz. Besides, I know plenty of people who get intoxicated and lead great lives.

 

[OncoCaP]

.....No, its just not a violent crime. Drug use is a crime, and so is parking in a fire lane. I guess I just choose my battles. I don't get all worked up about nonviolent crimes like these, I leave that to the fuzz. Besides, I know plenty of people who get intoxicated and lead great lives.

I can see where you are coming from. I guess it depends on what you expect. If you're are a party in a private home and people are smoking pot and getting intoxicated, that's one thing. However, many people associate being at a medical school interview as a fairly formal situation ... maybe little bit like being at a job interview. There is also the idea that what physicians (including future ones) do in their homes or at a party is one thing and what they do at the hospital is hopefully a bit more restricted. I could see someone getting offended by medical students smoking pot, smoking crack, snorting lines, tripping on LSD, or shooting up heroin at a medical school and complaining about it. I wouldn't consider that the be uptight or immature necessarily to complain about something like that.

 

[bigman43]

I can see where you are coming from. I guess it depends on what you expect. If you're are a party in a private home and people are smoking pot and getting intoxicated, that's one thing. However, many people associate being at a medical school interview as a fairly formal situation ... maybe little bit like being at a job interview. There is also the idea that what physicians (including future ones) do in their homes or at a party is one thing and what they do at the hospital is hopefully a bit more restricted. I could see someone getting offended by medical students smoking pot, smoking crack, snorting lines, tripping on LSD, or shooting up heroin at a medical school and complaining about it. I wouldn't consider that the be uptight or immature necessarily to complain about something like that.

onco, imagine you are the donkey:

THIS IS POT. NOT CRACK, NOT LSD, NOT HEROIN, NOT MURDER.

i guarantee you atleast 85% of all doctors practicing today (that are somewhat old, like in their 50's) have smoked pot. Not so long ago, it wasnt illegal.

 

[bigman43]

you really, really, reeeee heee aaaa llly (scrubs reference!) need better analogies.

 

[coralfangs]

imo, the nature of drug use is different from that of a violent crime, in which there is a victim
sure drug use is a self-destructive act, but like i mentioned previously, it really depends on the society, whether the act is socially acceptable or not
diazepam for example is considered to be an essential drug by the WHO, yet it is still a good sedative for treating anxiety and is quite addictive, similar to "weed"
it just happens that diazepam is more socially acceptable
if u were to see the dudes popping valium, would you still think negative of those two? (omg, i'm referencing welsh!)

self-destruction based on some of your argument is bad and therefore, should be reported regardless of the horrible consequences for the sake of the person,
thats just BS imo
what about those who compulsively snack on comfort food
those who skip meals
those who are addicted to porn
those who drink excessively once in a whie
ratting someone out and destroying their lives are not going to help that person to recover, if u really care for the person, why not try talk to them first (i see a LOT of "GREAT" doctors here in the future, kinda sad actually)

 

[Law2Doc]

Some people have opined that the OP should report the smokers because smoking pot at an interview is a "self-destructive" activity and a cause for "genuine concern." In my opinion, when someone is genuinely concerned about someone else, they try to *help* them. Causing someone to be rejected or kicked out of medical school is unlikely to *help* that person in any way; it is a punishment disproportionate to the crime.

The actual type of drug is irrelevant here - I think some of you are getting hung up on that point. When someone is so self destructive that they are willing to jeopardize the most important day of their life by doing something illegal on campus on interview day in view of others, they have a real problem. (We aren't apparently talking about what people do in their own homes behind closed doors). While I didn't explicitly advocate getting them kicked out of school, there really is no other realistic avenue for "help" here that I can see. This is a problem that is not going to be made better by the stress of med school. So I don't have a problem if the OP chooses to mention what he saw.

 

[Law2Doc]

ratting someone out and destroying their lives are not going to help that person to recover, if u really care for the person, why not try talk to them first (i see a LOT of "GREAT" doctors here in the future, kinda sad actually)

I don't think there is any notion that anyone "really cares for the person" in the above example. The real question (taking the specifics out of it, which makes it a better question) is, what you do when you see a huge lapse of judgement by a fellow applicant who commits a crime on campus on interview day in plain view of you?

 

[HopkinsOne]

So - at an interview, an applicant and a medical student were smoking pot... what do you do?

Let me guess, you're not thinking of reporting them to law enforcement - you're thinking of ratting them out to the AdCom, right?

Massive effing conflict of interest.

 

[FutureDoctorJ]

So - at an interview, an applicant and a medical student were smoking pot... what do you do?

This is a no brainer. Here in Hawaii we'd just go up and say eh brah, u like share? If its Hawaiian Hash Bud they are smoking, most definitely join in. If its that weak stuff from the mainland walk away.
Now on a more serious note, smoking pakalolo is about the same as running a red light. At least here in the islands. Now, if they were hitting the pipe, well then thats a legitimate report. For all you know, the guy or gal could have had a script for it. Aloha from Hawaii!

 

[fcr0206]

What the two pot smokers did was wrong, but I think you stand to lose more than them if you tell the adcom. It is your word versus their word, no facts proving either one is correct. If anything the adcom will look at you thinking your are doing this to improve your chances at gaining acceptance. Think of it this way, if you weren't planning on telling the cops about the situation then definitely don't tell the adcom.

 

[cyrille104]

Ask the gentlemen to please stop. If they blow smoke in your face and laugh, pull out a butterfly knife. Round house kick the med student while throwing signal flares in the air. Call the cops, knife the interviewer in the back, and tie both of them together with masking tape. Set the med student on fire and wait for the cops to show up. When the popo arrive, you're free to SPRINT to the deans office and tell him what happened.

OMG i've NEVER laughed that hard on SDN

 

[OncoCaP]

onco, imagine you are the donkey:

THIS IS POT. NOT CRACK, NOT LSD, NOT HEROIN, NOT MURDER.

i guarantee you atleast 85% of all doctors practicing today (that are somewhat old, like in their 50's) have smoked pot. Not so long ago, it wasnt illegal.

Keep in mind that another poster above said the s/he didn't have a problem with med students and applicants using illegal drugs (including heroin) at the medical school. So, while attitudes toward pot are obviously different, it's nevertheless interesting to see what people think about drug use in certain situations, even "harder" drugs.

So would you mind if a group of med students and applicants were smoking crack or shooting up heroin together on interview day? Would you report it? How about if a group of physicians and patients were smoking crack or tripping on LSD after their shift? Got a problem with that? I would, even if they were just having a good time together. What about you? Would you be a snitch about fellow students/applicants/faculty/physicians enjoying crack pipes?

I realize this isn't what supposedly happened. I'm just trying to understand if you consider any kind of illegal drug use to be a problem or if it's just with respect to pot that you think people should look the other way.

Also, just because many physicians have done something doesn't mean that it is ok in any setting and that it's not ok to be offended by it in certain circumstances. While many physicians certainly have used pot in the past, you'll be hard pressed to find some who smoked pot at the medical school on interview day; that's going to be extremely rare. As far as the related subject you brought up in an earlier post, essentially all physicians have had sex, but physicians having sex with patients is unethical, even if it is consensual. The circumstances, location, etc. do matter. You may feel quite comfortable with certain things and be offended by others (maybe racial jokes even if they aren't really intended for you might offend you, for example, and you would have a right to complain about them).

As an aside, I agree that you have a right to your opinion. However, I'm convinced that the OP has a right to his/her opinion as well and to complain (including anonymously, which is standard procedure for many workplace issues, including medical misconduct). Is it possible that we all have a right to our own opinion and have a right to complain about something that offended us?

 

[digitalraid]

The OP is well within their right to complain but as the saying goes, snitches get stiches. Pot use/drug use isnt worth filing a complaint unless you can see how it affects the person's life on a daily basis (e.g. being witness to a family member or SO's drug problem and the like). If I were the authorities I'd laugh away at the OP.

 

[PreMed4Dummies]

I actually caught video of the entire situation!!!

See: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/142297/medical_school_interview/

 

[MSwinthrop]

My suggestion would be to approach the person you saw smoking pot and say, "Dude (or dudette), thats a horrible idea. Adcoms talk to eachother, can you imagine if you got caught?" Any other response is just petty.

 

[hairyhuang]

has the OP ever smoked weed?

 

[Decicco]

The actual type of drug is irrelevant here - I think some of you are getting hung up on that point. When someone is so self destructive that they are willing to jeopardize the most important day of their life by doing something illegal on campus on interview day in view of others, they have a real problem.

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who gives a f-ck, its their "problem" and not yours. You talk about "helping" them by reporting them, but if they wanted your help they would ask for it.

Violent Crime=victims=something worth losing sleep over
Nonviolent drug crime=no victims=leave it to the fuzz!

Also, just because many physicians have done something doesn't mean that it is ok

Smoking weed is OK. (There, I said it )
Like anything, its all about responsibility.

 

[HopkinsOne]

Allow me to rephrase this: You saw a college student smoking weed.

 

[Bolo]

God you guys are such squares.

 

[ryandote]

I would have no problem minding my own beeswax... except that is illegal. Otherwise its not any worse than having a beer - but I wouldn't want a physician operating on a member of my family if they were willing to risk their career to get high.

holy smokes!

I didn't realize they were operating when they smoked the ganja! You should definitely tattle!

 

[apricotattack]

i cant believe you would actually consider snitching.

this is why i hate 95% of all premeds. Mind your own damn business. I dont understand how those two people smoking pot affects you in anyway. besides, have you ever even smelled pot, or seen how it looks? I know lots of people who actually use their own rolling paper and make their own cigarettes. Don't immediately assume that just because it looks like a joint, that it is.

I really hate the stereotype associated with premeds. But people like you really need to grow a pair and stop adding substance to that stereotype. Christ.

Also, drinking under 21 is also illegal. Yet, most college kids do it. Why dont you rat them out too? Why are you even posting something so useless here. Gosh.

Amen, this is ridiculous. Go back to the library already.

 

[AnesthesiaMD]

...........yes report them. it only shows how responsible you are.......

That'd be a GREAT way to make some friends of your possible future classmates. Who cares? They will eventually get what's coming to them, let them make their own choices for now.

 

[Noeljan]

Although I don't like smoke, I probably would not want to get involved. The only way I would see myself telling about something like this would be in a clincal setting (putting people at risk) or maybe in the medical school itself (because that is just plain ridiculous). I mean you probably cannot even prove it. Maybe you could try talking to the people involved first. I think I would personally do that. Tell them what I saw, and why i feel it is not appropriate. This may warn them without getting them into trouble, and it may make you feel better.

 

[valiteq]

O.k. so apparently a lot of people think that reporting would be "snitching" and that somehow doing so would make me a bad person. This is not something I am considering for my own gain, I will be attending a different institution (was accepted at several, including the school in question).

I really don't give a rip what people do in their own time - unless it is illegal, and there exists a potential for harming others. In this case I know for a fact that the med student got high and then hopped in their car and proceeded to drive in a reckless manner. Why does this concern me? Maybe because it implies that the individual is dumb enough to risk everything to get high... and also dumb enough to drive while intoxicated - and don't give me some b.s. line about how being stoned does not impair one's ability to operate heavy machinery - I sure as hell don't want some stoned ***** to run my grandmother over.

Maybe this means I am overly conservative - but if I were on an adcom, I would take someone with a 28 MCAT over a stoner with with a 36 any day - which individual is more mature? which one has their priorities straight? the fact that someone doesnt have better things to do than get high is comparable to playing xbox rather than voluntering.

Is there any chance it was something other than pot - well maybe, but there aren't too many green / red buds that people mash into glass pipes and proceed to take hits off of.

At this point there would be no way for me to report the interviewee - I waited too long I suppose. But it wouldn't be at all difficult to put in a call to the local police and inform them that the medstudent had a stash of illegal drugs in their house.

My primary reason for hesitance has absolutely nothing to do with sympathy for the student - I just doubt that anything would be done if I did bother making that call... too small a matter to take up anyone's time.

To those of you who like to get waisted - maybe you should consider the possibility that the next time you drop by a dealer to pick up a dime bag, you might just get busted - or the pot you buy might just have a bit too much insectiside, or pcp additive... and there goes your career.

 

[valiteq]

One more thing - I am not "talking about helping them" and I never said I was. They can sort their own lives out, I just don't think they have the maturity or judgement that I would want in my physician.

 

[royalstumble]

O.k. so apparently a lot of people think that reporting would be "snitching" and that somehow doing so would make me a bad person. This is not something I am considering for my own gain, I will be attending a different institution (was accepted at several, including the school in question).

I really don't give a rip what people do in their own time - unless it is illegal, and there exists a potential for harming others. In this case I know for a fact that the med student got high and then hopped in their car and proceeded to drive in a reckless manner. Why does this concern me? Maybe because it implies that the individual is dumb enough to risk everything to get high... and also dumb enough to drive while intoxicated - and don't give me some b.s. line about how being stoned does not impair one's ability to operate heavy machinery - I sure as hell don't want some stoned ***** to run my grandmother over.

Maybe this means I am overly conservative - but if I were on an adcom, I would take someone with a 28 MCAT over a stoner with with a 36 any day - which individual is more mature? which one has their priorities straight? the fact that someone doesnt have better things to do than get high is comparable to playing xbox rather than voluntering.

Is there any chance it was something other than pot - well maybe, but there aren't too many green / red buds that people mash into glass pipes and proceed to take hits off of.

At this point there would be no way for me to report the interviewee - I waited too long I suppose. But it wouldn't be at all difficult to put in a call to the local police and inform them that the medstudent had a stash of illegal drugs in their house.

My primary reason for hesitance has absolutely nothing to do with sympathy for the student - I just doubt that anything would be done if I did bother making that call... too small a matter to take up anyone's time.

To those of you who like to get waisted - maybe you should consider the possibility that the next time you drop by a dealer to pick up a dime bag, you might just get busted - or the pot you buy might just have a bit too much insectiside, or pcp additive... and there goes your career.

are you serious? tattling about an action such as getting high makes you a huge nerddle (but within your rights), tattling on an assumption makes you an idiot (in the context of what you said).

that bolded statement makes me think you are getting psuedo revenge on the people in college/high school that got high and kicked your ass.

 

[OncoCaP]

One more thing - I am not "talking about helping them" and I never said I was. They can sort their own lives out, I just don't think they have the maturity or judgement that I would want in my physician.

Does it surprise you that people who do illegal things or who show poor judgment become physicians?

 

[valiteq]

I am not at all suprised that some people on their way to becoming physicians do stupid things and have poor judgement. I just don't think it hurts to weed out the idiots at any availible opportunity.

As to the assumption that I am trying to get revenge on a portion of the population - how is this assertion relevant? Essentially what you are saying is that you support illicit drug use and therefor I am a dork for taking any action against someone who engages in such activities.

Honestly, I doubt that I would be as upset by this incident as I am if it weren't for the fact that I remember when I was immature enough to act similarly, and I can't help but think that a medical student who still behaves like a high school student probibably shouldn't be on their way to becoming a physician.

 

[johnny420]

this thread is old news. Tattling is so 5th grade. Why don't we end it by toking up at 420 (cali time). If you can't beat'em join'em. INHAAALEE

 

[jazzman84]

Ah OK. So, basically, you consider illegal drug use to not be a crime and that's why you wouldn't report it, correct?

Hey, where'd that straw man come from, anyway?

 

[OncoCaP]

I am not at all suprised that some people on their way to becoming physicians do stupid things and have poor judgement. I just don't think it hurts to weed out the idiots at any availible opportunity.

As to the assumption that I am trying to get revenge on a portion of the population - how is this assertion relevant? Essentially what you are saying is that you support illicit drug use and therefor I am a dork for taking any action against someone who engages in such activities.

Honestly, I doubt that I would be as upset by this incident as I am if it weren't for the fact that I remember when I was immature enough to act similarly, and I can't help but think that a medical student who still behaves like a high school student probibably shouldn't be on their way to becoming a physician.

Well, clearly the medical school admissions process doesn't weed out the people who enjoy marijuana unless they also have some kind of criminal record. Fact is, that many people, including college students and some medical students, use the stuff. My wife's college boyfriend did that and a bunch of other stuff on a regular basis (cocaine, shrunes, etc.). He's a physician now; I doubt he still does that stuff, but you never know, I guess. I had a boss who did a lot of drugs (went to college in the 70s) and enjoyed getting high. He hopes his kids have as much fun as he did. He doesn't do any of that stuff anymore now that he has a professional job. I guess people do outgrow these activities most of the time.

What surprised me was that you caught them smoking it in full view at the med school campus, apparently. Since it's not going to affect you, you can just write the school a letter or e-mail about what you observed. The people involved will most likely not get into trouble (that would be my guess anyway). I also doubt anything would change. My guess is that the school knows about it already but has chosen not to do anything. So, if your goal is to get them "weeded out," that's not going to happen unless they do more and get caught a lot. However, if enough people complain (also highly highly unlikely), the school might look into it. Marijuana use is certainly common. What's probably uncommon is smoking it at the medical school where interviewees could observe it.

I get the sense you are getting upset about something that you can't do much about. An acquaintance of mine actually hates going home for holidays (Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.) because his family gets drunk and stoned and then they argue and fight, often violently (even his own parents do this). He tries to keep his kids away from the grandparents as much as possible. Another acquaintance of mine did some jail time and now works as a grocery checker thanks to his pot addiction. A buddy of mind has memory problems due to years of smoking pot. A kid I mentored got repeatedly kicked out of school because of his pot addiction. It's a complicated problem with a lot of victims (including mostly self-induced destruction). I suggest you let it go at this level beyond maybe complaining to the school about the incident. If you are really serious about it, maybe you could help addicts at a clinic and maybe help programs that discourage vulnerable kids from ever starting up the use of illegal drugs. I'm under the impression that things will get worse before they get better.

 

[Decicco]

Everyone agrees that smoking pot is no big deal. Now let this thread die. Please.

 

[OncoCaP]

Everyone agrees that smoking pot is no big deal. Now let this thread die. Please.

Not sure who "everyone" is. Some people like it and want to do it. Others are concerned about the negative effects of smoking pot. It affects different people differently. Some feel nothing; many have temporary effects; still others become addicted.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/marijuana.html
Abusing marijuana can result in problems with memory, learning and social behavior. Longer term it can lead to problems such as lung cancer and increased risk of infections. It can interfere with family, school, work and other activities.
National Institute on Drug Abuse

Bottom line is that it ruins lives for many people, even if most people have no long-term adverse effects.

 

[SIREN]

Not sure who "everyone" is. Some people like it and want to do it. Others are concerned about the negative effects of smoking pot. It affects different people differently. Some feel nothing; many have temporary effects; still others become addicted.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/marijuana.html
Abusing marijuana can result in problems with memory, learning and social behavior. Longer term it can lead to problems such as lung cancer and increased risk of infections. It can interfere with family, school, work and other activities.
National Institute on Drug Abuse

Bottom line is that it ruins lives for many people, even if most people have no long-term adverse effects.

I agree with this 100%, however, I do not agree with the OP, while I agree that it is his choice to report this, I cannot grasp "why" he is considering, making this his choice. I am a firm believer in that, we should focus on cleaning up our own messes before attempting to clean up someone else's.

 

[SketchLazy]

So - at an interview, an applicant and a medical student were smoking pot... what do you do?

Because you're even asking, you must be a narc.

Bottom line is that it ruins lives for many people, even if most people have no long-term adverse effects.

Disregarding any biological effects, if any, I don't think you can really blame marijuana for ruining lives. I think in most cases, people smoke because their lives are already in some state of disarray. They turn to it for a remedy to their misfortunes just like some people turn to drinking. Smoking might add to the problem, but I think for these people, there was always a problem there in the first place.

 

[OncoCaP]

I agree with this 100%, however, I do not agree with the OP, while I agree that it is his choice to report this, I cannot grasp "why" he is considering, making this his choice. I am a firm believer in that, we should focus on cleaning up our own messes before attempting to clean up someone else's.

He wants to keep the medical profession as pure as possible. People who smoke pot (at the med school?) are not worthy to become physicians in his opinion. He thinks if you do it in high school it's stupid; he thinks if you do it in med school you're immature and show poor judgment. That's why he wants to report it ... he wants to keep med students who smoke pot out. Doesn't seem like he will be successful IMO.

 

[Decicco]

Bottom line is that it ruins lives for many people, even if most people have no long-term adverse effects.

And I would argue that its not the marijuana that ruins peoples lives (its a plant, remember?), its these people's lack of responsibility. There are responsible marijuana smokers. But seriously, I hate debating this stuff. It is so trivial.

 

[OncoCaP]

And I would argue that its not the marijuana that ruins peoples lives (its a plant, remember?), its these people's lack of responsibility. There are responsible marijuana smokers. But seriously, I hate debating this stuff. It is so trivial.

Why do you hate debating this stuff? If it's so trivial, why do you bother to post so often? Obviously it's not trivial to you ... it's important to you or you wouldn't be saying anything about it.

 

[Decicco]

I feel this way because it seems like just about everyone undestands that smoking pot is no big deal. If a student like the OP tattled on someone for smoking pot at some colleges, the public saftey (or whomever) would just laugh. I guess youre right that I don't hate talking about this topic as much as I said I do, but I do believe it is trivial because pretty much everyone has fallen on one side of this issue, besides you and the OP.

 

[SIREN]

Because you're even asking, you must be a narc.



Disregarding any biological effects, if any, I don't think you can really blame marijuana for ruining lives. I think in most cases, people smoke because their lives are already in some state of disarray. They turn to it for a remedy to their misfortunes just like some people turn to drinking. Smoking might add to the problem, but I think for these people, there was always a problem there in the first place.

Of course, great blanket statement. The same thing could be said for obsessive overeaters or people who are flat out obese, however, these people can pass a drug test for employment, and they don't have to worry about getting arrested, fired or kicked out of school for one twinkie too many.

 

[OncoCaP]

I feel this way because it seems like just about everyone undestands that smoking pot is no big deal. If a student like the OP tattled on someone for smoking pot at some colleges, the public saftey (or whomever) would just laugh. I guess youre right that I don't hate talking about this topic as much as I said I do, but I do believe it is trivial because pretty much everyone has fallen on one side of this issue, besides you and the OP.

Ok, so since most people seem to think that smoking pot is no big deal, what med schools are friendly to pot smokers? Have you ever seen anyone smoking pot at a med school? Seems like if it's not big deal and people like to do it, then you would see it happening, right? I've gone to schools where smoking pot was popular, but I never saw anyone smoking it at the school when school applicants were around (e.g., near the classrooms, etc.). If it's no big deal, why would anyone worry about someone "snitching" ... after all, the administration is just going to laugh it off, right?

 

[SIREN]

He wants to keep the medical profession as pure as possible. People who smoke pot (at the med school?) are not worthy to become physicians in his opinion. He thinks if you do it in high school it's stupid; he thinks if you do it in med school you're immature and show poor judgment. That's why he wants to report it ... he wants to keep med students who smoke pot out. Doesn't seem like he will be successful IMO.

That's insane, what is he, Jesus? This is exactly what I am speaking of, this person is not even IN med school yet, and already he wants to purify med school, ugh, this makes my head hurt. Once he starts med school maybe his priorities will change. I am against marijuana, but tattle telling on people is not an effective way to incur that kind of change.

 

[chaldobruin]

How can you justify that this person is so horribly evil for smoking pot as to warrant a complaint?

 

[OncoCaP]

That's insane, what is he, Jesus? This is exactly what I am speaking of, this person is not even IN med school yet, and already he wants to purify med school, ugh, this makes my head hurt. Once he starts med school maybe his priorities will change. I am against marijuana, but tattle telling on people is not an effective way to incur that kind of change.

I think it comes down to your attitudes about smoking pot and the profession of medicine. If you see smoking pot as similar to having beer or cigarette, then you probably wouldn't worry about it. If you saw it as something obscene, then you probably would feel like complaining. It comes down to your values, what you thought was wrong. If the majority of Americans think smoking pot is no big deal, why is it illegal? The majority of voters do think recreational use of pot is a big deal and want to keep it outlawed, and so it is, for now, anyway.