Reporting a Cheater?

[PharmaTope]

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He stood up and saw the note cards on their laps. Sounds like situational awareness and acute observational skills, something a good pharmacist should be outfitted with.

you are comparing pharmacist skills to spotting someone using notes during an exam?

how about a video of van damme fighting 5 guys at once. ahhhhh able to maneuver tough situations and 5 things coming at the same time as a good pharmacist should

 

[Notecard]

i never noticed any cheaters because i always focused on my own exam and work.
why were you looking around at other people taking an exam? were you attempting to cheat? that would be my question to you. when i am in an exam i spend my time accordingly and get out of there.

I don't know about you but when I finish my exam I tend to stop focusing on it when I get up to turn it in, considering it's done and everything.

Anyway, I know I choked and thinking back I should have just told the teacher as I turned in my test. I didn't send the email but my plan is to just sit in the same seat as last time and if she's cheating again I'll tell on her as I turn in that exam.

Normally I'd be the person who shrugs this off but I told my best friend about it and she was livid. She's one of those people who works her butt off for her grades and the thought of someone just cheating through it really set her off. I always got why cheating was unethical and stupid beyond belief but this was a new perspective on it for me. Makes me regret not turning her in right then. Oh well, live and learn I guess.

 

[rxlea]

It's like the people who cheat their way through professional school... You wanna let that fly by too?

The important thing is PROOF. So, you should tell the prof when the person is in the act. Without proof, there is nothing they can do- your word against theirs. Believe me...having already experienced issues with people cheating (in undergrad and pharm school), the proof is imperative.

 

[Passion4Sci]

you are comparing pharmacist skills to spotting someone using notes during an exam?

how about a video of van damme fighting 5 guys at once. ahhhhh able to maneuver tough situations and 5 things coming at the same time as a good pharmacist should

Nice hyperbole.

How can you compare situational awareness and attention to detail to someone engaging in 5+ person hand to hand combat?

That's so crazy, it's like a non-sequitir. You're basically just trying to be difficult, which is why you're included in the RxForLife2004TigerPharmaTopeFauxden group.

 

[PharmaTope]

Nice hyperbole.

How can you compare situational awareness and attention to detail to someone engaging in 5+ person hand to hand combat?

That's so crazy, it's like a non-sequitir. You're basically just trying to be difficult, which is why you're included in the RxForLife2004TigerPharmaTopeFauxden group.

winning

 

[rxlea]

Don't forget renetto.

 

[Passion4Sci]

Don't forget renetto.

Oh yeah!! And ADMISSIONS MAAAAAN!!!

 

[Electrode]

I remember being questioned by a chemistry professor why I failed to report the lady next to me for cheating. She was clearly using her class note(s). And someone had reported her while mentioning me as the core witness.

My response was; "I didn't really understand what she was doing. I would have normally assessed the situation & reported it/her, if I had come to the conclusion that she was cheating. But the whole process takes me about 5 mins to complete/comprehend, and you alloted us 1hr 15mins for the exam....instead of 1hr 20mins". Details skipped, the rest of the semester wasn't a memorable one for me. It never mattered beyond that anyway...and I would gladly repeat the same thing.


But the idea of having to report someone for something like "cheating" would only happen if I am so so bored with life, and couldn't care any less for any other thing in the world. I would rather prefer to spend time listening to aliens scream at each other with whatever language they speak in Jupiter or Mars.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that it can be quite unethical but c'mmon...is it really worth all that hassle? If yes, please explain.

 

[owlegrad]

Normally I'd be the person who shrugs this off but I told my best friend about it and she was livid. She's one of those people who works her butt off for her grades and the thought of someone just cheating through it really set her off. I always got why cheating was unethical and stupid beyond belief but this was a new perspective on it for me. Makes me regret not turning her in right then. Oh well, live and learn I guess.

Isn't funny how different people can see the same thing so differently? I just do not understand being angry. It is just none of my business who is cheating. It doesn't affect me in any tangible way (we can argue about abstracts, but you get my point). Why be angry? It's a waste of emotion. I just am not interested in wasting one second of my time on cheaters.

Your friend shouldn't let what other people do affect her. When you are pulled over for speeding sometimes you get a ticket and sometimes you get a warning - being angry at the person who gets a warning is a waste of time/emotion. Focus on your own grades/achievements and let the rest fall where they may. In the end, you almost certainly are going to be better off than the cheater - and you won't have wasted all that anger.

Just one other thing - in order to have seen the notes you had to be looking at their testing area (it was under their exams, right?). Their is no good reason for your attention to have been drawn to that area. I do not mean to imply that you were cheating (I believe the facts as you presented them), but their is no reason for you to have been aware of anything under their exams - that's the job of whoever is proctoring the exam. If you are going to be aware of what other people are doing when it is none of your business, you are going to let yourself be affected by their actions - much better to focus on your own actions than the actions of others.

 

[dazzled]

Isn't funny how different people can see the same thing so differently? I just do not understand being angry. It is just none of my business who is cheating. It doesn't affect me in any tangible way (we can argue about abstracts, but you get my point). Why be angry? It's a waste of emotion. I just am not interested in wasting one second of my time on cheaters.

Your friend shouldn't let what other people do affect her. When you are pulled over for speeding sometimes you get a ticket and sometimes you get a warning - being angry at the person who gets a warning is a waste of time/emotion. Focus on your own grades/achievements and let the rest fall where they may. In the end, you almost certainly are going to be better off than the cheater - and you won't have wasted all that anger.

Just one other thing - in order to have seen the notes you had to be looking at their testing area (it was under their exams, right?). Their is no good reason for your attention to have been drawn to that area. I do not mean to imply that you were cheating (I believe the facts as you presented them), but their is no reason for you to have been aware of anything under their exams - that's the job of whoever is proctoring the exam. If you are going to be aware of what other people are doing when it is none of your business, you are going to let yourself be affected by their actions - much better to focus on your own actions than the actions of others.

I know that when I go to turn in an exam, as soon as I put my pencil down and stand up with my exam closed, my eyes wander a bit. Mostly to kind of look and see how many people are still working, if they look confused, etc. It doesn't matter because I'm walking the exam up to the teacher and am not changing any answers or whatever. What's done is done. I don't consider it cheating to glance at people's answers/materials AFTER the fact, since they are now of no use to me.

Another thing I might mention is that, at least in a lot of my classes during exams, there isn't an empty seat between people - the room is packed. So, it's kind of hard NOT to look at people's materials while you're walking up/out. This will also be true in pharmacy school, where seats are generally filled in every class.

 

[owlegrad]

I know that when I go to turn in an exam, as soon as I put my pencil down and stand up with my exam closed, my eyes wander a bit. Mostly to kind of look and see how many people are still working, if they look confused, etc. It doesn't matter because I'm walking the exam up to the teacher and am not changing any answers or whatever. What's done is done. I don't consider it cheating to glance at people's answers/materials AFTER the fact, since they are now of no use to me.

Another thing I might mention is that, at least in a lot of my classes during exams, there isn't an empty seat between people - the room is packed. So, it's kind of hard NOT to look at people's materials while you're walking up/out. This will also be true in pharmacy school, where seats are generally filled in every class.

We have a space between everyone for every exam. What your saying may be true in other colleges of pharmacy though, I have no idea.


Whether or not it is cheating to look at other peoples papers before you turn in yours is not what I am trying to get at. It is simple none of your business how many people are left/if they look confused/etc. Keep your eyes are your own work and let other people make their own choices. There is no good reason to be looking around the room at any point during an exam. (maybe if someone yelled "FIRE")

I agree that if someone was setting right next to me and kept flipping through their notes it would be difficult not to notice them. My tunnel vision is not that good. But in reality if you notice someone cheating it is much more likely your eyes were not where they should be. It is not your role to be out to catch every cheater in your class.

 

[Electrode]

We have a space between everyone for every exam. What your saying may be true in other colleges of pharmacy though, I have no idea.


Whether or not it is cheating to look at other peoples papers before you turn in yours is not what I am trying to get at. It is simple none of your business how many people are left/if they look confused/etc. Keep your eyes are your own work and let other people make their own choices. Their is no good reason to be looking around the room at any point during an exam. (maybe if someone yelled "FIRE")

I agree that if someone was setting right next to me and kept flipping through their notes it would be difficult not to notice them. My tunnel vision is not that good. But in reality if you notice someone cheating it is much more likely your eyes were not where they should be. It is not your role to be out to catch every cheater in your class.

Yea, something like that.

 

[Notecard]

Okay I know I wasn't incredibly specific but just to clear things up lol, it was an entire spiral notebook sitting under her test. I saw it when I stood up. Imagine walking down your row to the center aisle; as you are walking you are looking directly at the people in the row next to yours on the other side of the aisle. It's pretty hard not to notice the metal rings sticking out the side.

 

[Passion4Sci]

Okay I know I wasn't incredibly specific but just to clear things up lol, it was an entire spiral notebook sitting under her test. I saw it when I stood up. Imagine walking down your row to the center aisle; as you are walking you are looking directly at the people in the row next to yours on the other side of the aisle. It's pretty hard not to notice the metal rings sticking out the side.

Actually see, the problem here is that you should actually have had your eyes totally closed while walking to turn your test in.

 

[owlegrad]

Okay I know I wasn't incredibly specific but just to clear things up lol, it was an entire spiral notebook sitting under her test. I saw it when I stood up. Imagine walking down your row to the center aisle; as you are walking you are looking directly at the people in the row next to yours on the other side of the aisle. It's pretty hard not to notice the metal rings sticking out the side.

Are your exams taken on the honor system?! How can whoever is giving the test not notice this?

Interesting that apparently no one turned her in. I guess you are the only honest person in your class.

Actually see, the problem here is that you should actually have had your eyes totally closed while walking to turn your test in.

😆

 

[rxlea]

Don't let these trolls give you a hard time, Notecard . Turning in a cheater is doing the right thing. I wouldn't go LOOKING for cheaters but clearly a spiral notebook under someone's exam is a bit hard to miss. These guys will tell you that I am a bitch though and if I see such an egregious form of cheating, those people are going down.

 

[druggeek]

Where I come from, snithches got stitches

In other words... why the hell would you tell? none of your business.

Snitching should be deserved in the case of someone being murdered/raped (to the police). ONLY those 2 conditions. And nothing else.

 

[Shadii]

I guess I come from a tougher side of town but I don't think I would snitch. AT MOST, I would send an email telling the prof that there are students cheating. I do not agree with cheating whatsoever and it does in fact rage me when I see others do it, but I just won't turn them in.

 

[rxlea]

lulz.

I'd like to see someone try to give me stitches for "snitching". I'd knock their block off in self defense.

and yes, it is my damn business if some tool is going to cheat his/her way into professional school and throughout professional school. Hell, they might cheat their way through life. Better put a stopper in that early in life.

 

[druggeek]

I guess I come from a tougher side of town but I don't think I would snitch. AT MOST, I would send an email telling the prof that there are students cheating. I do not agree with cheating whatsoever and it does in fact rage me when I see others do it, but I just won't turn them in.

In the grand scheme of things...cheating is not important. Sorry... just the truth. 🙂 Especially when they get a couple marks out of it... lolz...

 

[druggeek]

lulz.

I'd like to see someone try to give me stitches for "snitching". I'd knock their block off in self defense.

and yes, it is my damn business if some tool is going to cheat his/her way into professional school and throughout professional school. Hell, they might cheat their way through life. Better put a stopper in that early in life.

You clearly havent messed with the wrong people yet

 

[rxlea]

You clearly havent messed with the wrong people yet

You obviously don't know me. Hope to see you in a dark alley, my friend

 

[2411t]

You obviously don't know me.

Well, that's obvious...

 

[2411t]

I once saw a guy cheat by writing test material on the inside of a water bottle label and paste it back on bottle. I didn't snitch cause I thought it was pure genius! If you're that clever, you deserve an A!

 

[owlegrad]

You obviously don't know me. Hope to see you in a dark alley, my friend

Well, that's obvious...

 

[veyep]

Also keep in mind that once you tell a professor people are cheating in your class, you have just told him/her that he/she can't run his classroom and it might back fire on you!

 

[MathDebate]

The ethical thing to do is to report the student to the teacher. I won't lie and say I'm 100% ethical though. The only reason I'd turn my classmate in is if my grade would be affected due to the class being curved or if I don't like the classmate. Other than that, I see no reason to potentially screw up some dummy's academic career.

Also keep in mind that once you tell a professor people are cheating in your class, you have just told him/her that he/she can't run his classroom and it might back fire on you!

😕 l0l wat?

 

[rxlea]

Professors will be glad if you turn in cheaters. People who cheat don't turn in cheaters.

 

[mrprescription]

Who really cares if anyone cheats? I think it is ridiculous that so many people even care about some one else. Focus on your own grades and the things you need to do to get into pharmacy school and you will be fine.

Besides, if that person is cheating, they are most likely going to get a bad grade anyways. Most people who cheat on tests aren't getting A's.

 

[jackal head]

I would turn anyone in if they cheated b/c 1) I work hard for my A(s) and anyone else with A(s) worked hard for them....so we deserve to be the ONLY people with A(s) in the class...anyone that thinks they can cheat their way to getting the same grades as me are just kidding themselves and will be turned in. 2) Grade inflation, like I say...only a certain number of people should get A(s) and those are the people that work for them...if you want to party all week and cheat on your exam to get an A, then again YOU will be turn in. 3) WTF!!!! The cheater didn't study and think he or she DESERVES to make the same grade as me??? I DO NOT think so. I am turning them again for sure. 4) it's sickening to think you deserve the same grade as someone who studied for the exam. If you didn't study b/c you were out drunk last night, then you need to take the consequences for it.

That's how I feel about cheaters. If you are too lazy to put in the effort than you deserve to fail. The End.

Your inflated sense of moral superiority is what I find sickening.

You don't "deserve" anything regardless of how much effort you put in. People cheat in life, right or wrong, who's to judge? Cheating does not make you a bad person nor does it mean you're lazy or were partying instead of studying. Above all, it certainly does not mean you "deserve to fail."

The hard worker may get the A by studying all week whereas the cheater may get the A by programming his calculator, they both just used different strategies.

That said, I would not report a cheater UNLESS his cheating was hurting my grade.

ie

-a student who cheats to pass a class of >100 students will not hurt my grade.
-a student who cheats to get an A in a class of <20 students might hurt my grade.

I'm empathetic towards others as long as they don't get in my way.

 

[jackal head]

People who cheat don't turn in cheaters.

If you don't turn in cheaters, you must be a cheater yourself 🙄

Flawless logic.

Most people who cheat on tests aren't getting A's.

Not necesarily.

I've read a study on students cheating in highschool and it found most of the cheaters were the students who felt under pressure to get the top grades.

 

[rxlea]

If you don't turn in cheaters, you must be a cheater yourself 🙄

Flawless logic.



Not necesarily.

I've read a study on students cheating in highschool and it found most of the cheaters were the students who felt under pressure to get the top grades.

Lulz.

Have you cheated before?

Just because you don't turn in cheaters doesn't mean you cheat but rarely have I encountered the cheater who turns in others for cheating. Not the same thing, my friend.

 

[mrprescription]

Not necesarily.

I've read a study on students cheating in highschool and it found most of the cheaters were the students who felt under pressure to get the top grades.

I'm sure the people who do cheat are under pressure to get the top grades, but that doesn't mean that they GET the top grades.

I teach an anatomy lab and the people who I see cheating are lucky to get a C on a test and most of them fail miserably.

 

[Project2015]

This is troubling, especially given the context.

 

[druggeek]

The ethical thing to do is to report the student to the teacher. I won't lie and say I'm 100% ethical though. The only reason I'd turn my classmate in is if my grade would be affected due to the class being curved or if I don't like the classmate. Other than that, I see no reason to potentially screw up some dummy's academic career.



😕 l0l wat?

Ethics do not exist.

 

[rxlea]

Ethics do not exist.

Who says?

 

[SHC1984]

Your inflated sense of moral superiority is what I find sickening.

You don't "deserve" anything regardless of how much effort you put in. People cheat in life, right or wrong, who's to judge? Cheating does not make you a bad person nor does it mean you're lazy or were partying instead of studying. Above all, it certainly does not mean you "deserve to fail."

The hard worker may get the A by studying all week whereas the cheater may get the A by programming his calculator, they both just used different strategies.

That said, I would not report a cheater UNLESS his cheating was hurting my grade.

ie

-a student who cheats to pass a class of >100 students will not hurt my grade.
-a student who cheats to get an A in a class of <20 students might hurt my grade.

I'm empathetic towards others as long as they don't get in my way.

So I guess you would say the same thing about a murder or a thief too right?

I mean the killer isn't a bad person, they just killed someone so it's okay? right? Same with stealing, that's okay too right? not a bad person? 🙄

Cheater, murder, thief etc. ARE ALL THE SAME TO ME.

They are basically okay with hurting other people or doing whatever they want to do to get what they want in life. I don't see any difference between those people.

You must be a cheater if you think it is okay to cheat.

A cheater does deserve to fail b/c 1) you didn't do any work needed to get the grade you want and 2) quite frankly you aren't smart enough to get the grade you want so you don't deserve it. I know people that are just naturally smart and can get top grades without cheating or much studying...that's GREAT for them. If you are that smart then great! However, if you are not that smart then either 1) take the grade you deserve for not studying or 2) study and get the grade you deserve. It's that simple.

Same with stealing. Do you really think a person deserve an item he or she didn't paid for? HELL NO. If you want something in life, work for it and paid for it. If you are too lazy to work for it and want to "steal" it instead then you deserve to be in jail. Do you really think a thief deserve the item he stole? just like a cheater deserve a grade he "stole" too?

I do not think so...and I surely do hope if you witness a murder case or a armed robbery that YOU will REPORT it and not say...Well, someone got killed, but I didn't get hurt so WHO CARES?

However, I will say one thing...I AGREE with you that just because you work hard doesn't mean you deserve anything. Working hard does NOT mean you deserve anything at all. It's working SMART that gives you the benefits. Smart people are efficent with their study time and do well by studying smart...and some people are so smart that they don't have to study much at all and that's great. Those people will do well and I am happy for them. However if you are not so smart, then that is just too bad for you. You don't deserve to fail but you deserve the grade you get from whatever it is that you did between now and test time. If you aren't very smart and don't know how to study then you deserve the grade that you get. You do NOT deserve the grade that a smart person would get. I did not mean to say hard work deserve a good grade. I should have said working smart deserve a good grade.

 

[wsupharmacy]

Totally agree. Cheaters never win and winners never cheat 🙂

So I guess you would say the same thing about a murder or a thief too right?

I mean the killer isn't a bad person, they just killed someone so it's okay? right? Same with stealing, that's okay too right? not a bad person? 🙄

Cheater, murder, thief etc. ARE ALL THE SAME TO ME.

They are basically okay with hurting other people or doing whatever they want to do to get what they want in life. I don't see any difference between those people.

You must be a cheater if you think it is okay to cheat.

A cheater does deserve to fail b/c 1) you didn't do any work needed to get the grade you want and 2) quite frankly you aren't smart enough to get the grade you want so you don't deserve it. I know people that are just naturally smart and can get top grades without cheating or much studying...that's GREAT for them. If you are that smart then great! However, if you are not that smart then either 1) take the grade you deserve for not studying or 2) study and get the grade you deserve. It's that simple.

Same with stealing. Do you really think a person deserve an item he or she didn't paid for? HELL NO. If you want something in life, work for it and paid for it. If you are too lazy to work for it and want to "steal" it instead then you deserve to be in jail. Do you really think a thief deserve the item he stole? just like a cheater deserve a grade he "stole" too?

I do not think so...and I surely do hope if you witness a murder case or a armed robbery that YOU will REPORT it and not say...Well, someone got killed, but I didn't get hurt so WHO CARES?

However, I will say one thing...I AGREE with you that just because you work hard doesn't mean you deserve anything. Working hard does NOT mean you deserve anything at all. It's working SMART that gives you the benefits. Smart people are efficent with their study time and do well by studying smart...and some people are so smart that they don't have to study much at all and that's great. Those people will do well and I am happy for them. However if you are not so smart, then that is just too bad for you. You don't deserve to fail but you deserve the grade you get from whatever it is that you did between now and test time. If you aren't very smart and don't know how to study then you deserve the grade that you get. You do NOT deserve the grade that a smart person would get. I did not mean to say hard work deserve a good grade. I should have said working smart deserve a good grade.

 

[IrunDaily]

I'm quite suprised that NOBODY who has posted has EVER looked at ANYONE's papers, tests, etc. Everyone has that class where it's a divide and conquer to get the thing done. This is UNLESS you honestly are so anal about a class that matters not in highschool that you would actually REPORT a kid for cheating. Seriously guys, let's use a little common sense, unless it's affecting a curve or something who cares? People do what they got to do to pass and eventually whether they learned anything or not will turn up. People reporting are honestly just P/O'd that they had to study for a week to get the same grade as a kid who didn't. You see someone cheating and you are gonna tell? In basketball when a Ref misses a foul does it make the player who fouled a cheater? Nope, because the ref missed it and the game goes on. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it then does it make a sound? If a prof misses a cheater does it make the kid a cheater because the PROF didn't see it? Who knows, but I won't be the immature kid telling because they got a good grade, BECAUSE MY GRADE IS UNAFFECTED BY IT. I'm done.

 

[owlegrad]

If a prof misses a cheater does it make the kid a cheater because the PROF didn't see it? Who knows, but ....

Huh? What a stupid arguement. Yes, it makes him a cheater. Getting caught is not what makes someone a cheater.

 

[rxlea]

I'm quite suprised that NOBODY who has posted has EVER looked at ANYONE's papers, tests, etc. Everyone has that class where it's a divide and conquer to get the thing done. This is UNLESS you honestly are so anal about a class that matters not in highschool that you would actually REPORT a kid for cheating. Seriously guys, let's use a little common sense, unless it's affecting a curve or something who cares? People do what they got to do to pass and eventually whether they learned anything or not will turn up. People reporting are honestly just P/O'd that they had to study for a week to get the same grade as a kid who didn't. You see someone cheating and you are gonna tell? In basketball when a Ref misses a foul does it make the player who fouled a cheater? Nope, because the ref missed it and the game goes on. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it then does it make a sound? If a prof misses a cheater does it make the kid a cheater because the PROF didn't see it? Who knows, but I won't be the immature kid telling because they got a good grade, BECAUSE MY GRADE IS UNAFFECTED BY IT. I'm done.

You show your age with this post....

 

[smithek]

Just be sure you know what you're seeing before you turn someone in. Our tests are given on the honor system, and someone accused me of cheating on an exam (in orgo- a curved class). They said I was looking off of my friend's exam. I was devastated, because I had done nothing wrong, and I was at risk of failing a class. I not only didn't look off of her paper, but I finished 20 min before she did and she did about 10 points better than I did. The counsel found me not guilty, but it was a horrible and unfair experience.

 

[wrestler445]

i love how everyone is comparing cheating to murder/rape haha it's great.

 

[owlegrad]

i love how everyone is comparing cheating to murder/rape haha it's great.

And I love how everyone is exaggerating.

 

[IrunDaily]

It's a completely legitimate argument. It's perspective. And maybe I do show my age but last I checked I'm a Pharm student as well. I'm simply offering different opinions to the process as you are so apt to pounce on a cheater because they might be a "tool and cheat their way through life", RxLea. And honestly, you guys have never asked a fellow classmate what was on the lab quiz in anatomy or anything like that because knowing what will be on the quiz is cheating? 99% of the time I'm gonna bet that you guys have cheated with something. If people cheat, let them, only hurts themselves but don't be the kid that stoops even lower to point it out.

 

[owlegrad]

It's a completely legitimate argument. ....

No it is not. Saying that cheating isn't cheating if the professor doesn't catch it is just stupid. It is cheating either way. Interestingly, I actually agree about reporting it - I personally would not report a cheater. But I don't cheat myself and I certainly don't say it's not cheating because I didn't get caught. Perhaps stupid is a strong word, but I can't think of a nicer way of saying that your argument sounds like something a ***** would argue. It depresses me that you are in pharm school. Not because you would not report a cheater or apparently think it is ok because "everyone does it" (false) but because you only think it is cheating if you get caught. Even high schoolers should have reasoning skills more developed than that. How far do you extend that logic?

If I have an affair would it only be cheating if my partner found out? Is it only speeding if you get pulled over? Etc?

 

[rxlea]

It's a completely legitimate argument. It's perspective. And maybe I do show my age but last I checked I'm a Pharm student as well. I'm simply offering different opinions to the process as you are so apt to pounce on a cheater because they might be a "tool and cheat their way through life", RxLea. And honestly, you guys have never asked a fellow classmate what was on the lab quiz in anatomy or anything like that because knowing what will be on the quiz is cheating? 99% of the time I'm gonna bet that you guys have cheated with something. If people cheat, let them, only hurts themselves but don't be the kid that stoops even lower to point it out.

Whether you're in pharm school or not, your previous post is silly. I will agree that it is a matter of perspective how you should act when cheating is observed but as owlegrad pointed out, it is still cheating. I wouldn't necessarily "pounce" on a cheater. If someone is glancing at someone else's paper, you probably can't prove that they did. If someone has an entire NOTEBOOK under their test (which is the topic of discussion here), yes, I would report it immediately because the professor can directly observe the cheating and such an egregious form of cheating should never be tolerated. Whether they get a higher grade than me or not is irrelevant since I earn my own grade. I find the preoccupation with one's own grade interesting, though...as in, "screw everyone else, as long as it doesn't affect me" which, IMO, is a very immature way of approaching this kind of situation.

EDIT: you're not a "pharmacy student" until you start pharm school... aren't you c/o 2015?

 

[PharmGirl000]

delete.

 

[rxlea]

I haven't read through every single reply but you have to be a pretty big nerd to report a cheater. Everyone needs to mind their own business ---- people who cheat usually get caught at some point or another anyways...

Explain the association between "nerd" and reporting a cheater. Why are you saying everyone needs to mind their own business?

And not everyone gets caught cheating...

 

[IrunDaily]

I am sorry it saddens you that I'm a pharm student because of my reasoning skills but then we are both going for the same degree so apparently my reasoning skills seem to be intact and yes c/o 2015 but I don't plan on not going to pharm school... And you guys are ridiculous I will guarantee you have cheated at some point in your life or heard a test question that was coming up. Regardless, cheaters eventually get no where. I just honestly think you are just upset because a kid could honestly get an A on something in 2 hrs that might've took you 2 days. I just think it's so funny that you guys care so much about someone cheating on a test, it's hilarious...