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TCOM /RESIDENCY SITES CLASS OF 2007

Anesthesiology: 7

Baylor College of Medicine
Houston, Texas

SUNY HSC – Brooklyn
Brooklyn, New York

University of Arkansas
Little Rock, Arkansas

University of Texas Health Science Center
San Antonio, Texas

University of Texas South Western Medical School
Dallas, Texas: (note: Two Matched)

University of Toledo
Toledo, Ohio
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Emergency Medicine: 11

Albert Einstein Medical Center
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Beth Israel Medical Center
New York, New York

Christus Spohn Memorial Hospital
Corpus Christi, Texas

Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody SOM
Greenville, North Carolina

St. James Hospital and Health
Olympia Fields, Illinois

Texas A&M – Scott and White
Temple, Texas

University of Illinois-St. Francis Medical Center
Peoria, Illinois (Note: Two Matched)

University of Texas South Western Medical School
Dallas, Texas (Note: Two Matched)

Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center
Winston-Salem, North Carolina
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ENT – Facial Plastic Surgery – One

St. John Oakland Hospital
Madison Heights, Michigan
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Family Medicine – 33

Advocate Lutheran General Hospital
Park Ridge, Illinois

Baylor Medical Center
Garland, Texas

Brazos Family Medicine
Bryan, Texas

Brown University/Memorial Hospital
Pawtucket, Rhode Island

Christus Santa Rosa
San Antonio, Texas (Note: Two Matched)
Christus Spohn Memorial Hospital
Corpus Christi, Texas (Note: One Matched)

Conroe Regional Medical Center
Conroe, Texas (Note: One Matched)

John Peter Smith Hospital
Fort Worth, Texas (Note: 7 Matched)
McLennan County Family Practice
Waco, Texas (Note 5 Matched)
Memorial Hermann Hospital
Houston, Texas

Methodist Health System (Charlton Methodist)
Dallas, Texas (Note: 3 Matched)

MWU-CCOM/Bromenn
Normal, Illinois

OUCOM/Doctors Hospital
Columbus, Ohio

Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody SOM
Greenville, North Carolina

Plaza Medical Center
Fort Worth, Texas (Note: 3 Matched)

San Jacinto Methodist Hospital
Baytown, Texas (Note: 2 Matched)

Texas A&M – Scott and White
Temple, Texas
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Internal Medicine – 22

Baylor College of Medicine
Houston, Texas

Brooke Army Medical Center
San Antonio, Texas

Kaiser Permanente Medical Group
Santa Clara, California

Legacy Emanuel/Good Samaritan
Portland, Oregon

Medical College of Wisconsin
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Methodist Health System (Dallas Methodist)
Dallas, Texas (Note: 3 Matched)

Naval Hospital
San Diego, California

Plaza Medical Center
Fort Worth, Texas (Note: 3 Matched

St. Johns Mercy Medical Center
St. Louis, Missouri

USAF Medical Center (Keesler)
Biloxi, Mississippi

University of Tennessee
Memphis, Tennessee

University of Texas Health Science Center
San Antonio, Texas

University of Texas Medical Branch
Galveston, Texas

University of Texas Medical School
Houston, Texas
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Internal Medicine – Pediatrics Combined - 2

University of Illinois – St. Francis Medical Center
Peoria, Illinois

University of Minnesota Medical School
Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Internal Medicine – Preliminary: 1

Case Western/University Hospitals
Cleveland, Ohio

Internal Medicine – Primary: 1
Brown Medical School/Memorial Hospital
Pawtucket, Rhode Island
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Obstetrics/Gynecology (OB/Gyn): 8

Indiana University School of Medicine
Indianapolis, Indiana

John Peter Smith Hospital
Fort Worth, Texas

Loyola University Medical Center
Chicago, Illinois

Minnesota Medical School
Minneapolis, Minnesota

St. Francis Hospital
Hartford, Connecticut

St. Joseph’s Healthcare
Clinton Township, Michigan

Texas Tech University HSC
Odessa, Texas

Tripler Army Medical Center
Honolulu, Hawaii
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Orthopaedic Surgery: 1

Mount Clemens Regional Medical Center
Mount Clemens, Michigan
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Pathology: 4

University of Florida – Shands Hospital
Gainesville, Florida

University of Texas Medical School
Houston, Texas

University of Texas South Western Medical School
Dallas, Texas (Note: 2 Matched)
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Pediatrics: 14

Baylor College of Medicine
Houston, Texas

Children’s Hospital – Los Angeles
Los Angeles, California

Driscoll Children’s Hospital
Corpus Christi, Texas

Loyola University Medical Center
Chicago, Illinois

Texas A&M – Scott and White
Temple, Texas

Texas Tech University HSC
Lubbock, Texas

University of Arkansas
Little Rock, Arkansas

University of California San Francisco
Fresno, California

University of Florida HSC
Jacksonville, Florida

University of Texas Medical Branch
Austin, Texas (Note: 3 Matched)
University of Texas Medical Branch
Galveston, Texas

University of Texas Medical School
Houston, Texas
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Physical Medicine and Rehab: 1

University of California Davis Medical Center
Davis, California
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Psychiatry: 6

Austin Medical Education Programs
Austin, Texas

John Peter Smith Hospital
Fort Worth, Texas (Note: 3 Matched)
Texas A&M – Scott and White
Temple, Texas

University of Alabama Medical Center
Birmingham, Alabama
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Radiology – Diagnostic: 3

MSUCOM/Huron Valley-Sinai Hospital
Commerce, Michigan

University of Arkansas
Little Rock, Arkansas

University Hospitals
Jackson, Mississippi
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Surgery: 4

Botsford General Hospital
Farmington Hills, Michigan

Carilion Health System
Roanoke, Virginia

Maimonides Medical Center
Brooklyn, New York

OUCOM/Doctors Hospital
Columbus, Ohio
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Surgery – Preliminary: 1

Exampla St. Joseph Hospital
Denver, Colorado
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Urology: 1

Botsford General Hospital
Farmington, Michigan
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Rotating Internship: 4

KCOM/University of Missouri
Kansas City, Missouri

LECOM/Washington Hospital
Washington, Pennsylvania

Oakwood Southshore Medical Center
Trenton, Michigan

UH Richmond Medical Center
Richmond Heights, Ohio
 
Does anyone know where the matchlist for VCOM is? is there one posted? I'm interested to see what they all got this year!!
 
KCUMB MATCH LIST 2007

ANESTHESIOLOGY (12)

St. Louis University (4)
Loyola University
Ohio State University
Oklahoma State University Tulsa Regional Medical Center
Penn State University Hershey Medical Center
University of Missouri St. Luke’s Medical Center (2)
University of Texas
Vanderbilt University

DERMATOLOGY (1)

Kansas University Medical Center

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY (3)

University of Missouri, Kansas City
St. Barnabas Hospital
University of Nebraska

EMERGENCY MEDICINE (29)

St. Joseph’s Medical Center
Freeman Health System (2)
St. Francis’ Medical Center
Oakwood Southshore Hospital
St. James Hospital and Health Center (2)
Metro Health Hospital
Southwest Medical Center (4)
Kennedy Memorial Hospital
Memorial Hospital
Ingham Regional Medical Center
St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center
St. John Oakland Hospital
Henry Ford Health System/Henry Ford Bi-Cnty
St. John West Shore Hospital
Genesys Health System
Pitt County Memorial Hospital
Botsford Health Care
University of Missouri, KC
Midwestern University
UMDNJ Robert Wood Johnson Medical School Program at Camden
Metrohealth Medical Center
Lehigh Valley/Muhlenberg
Doctor’s Hospital-Columbus
Earl K. Long Medical Center

FAMILY MEDICINE (38)

Utah Valley Regional Medical Center
Pensacola Naval Hospital
University of Wisconsin SMPH (2)
John Peter Smith Hospital
University of Missouri, KC (2)
Research Medical Center
Kansas University Medical Center (4)
Grant Medical Center
Idaho Family Medicine Residency Program
University of Mississippi
Pontiac Osteopathic Hospital
University of Colorado at Denver Health Science Center
Southern Illinois University
Cox Family Medicine (3)
Via Christi Regional Medical Center (4)
Great Plains Medical Foundation
Broadlawns Medical Center
Camp Pendleton Naval Hospital
Obleness Memorial Hospital
Madigan Army Medical Center
Montgomery Family Medicine Program
Florida Hospital East Orlando
Womack Army Community Hospital
Deaconess Hospital
Southern Colorado Program (2)
North Mississippi Medical Center
Truman Lakewood/St Lukes

GENERAL SURGERY (9)

Hospital of St. Raphael
Lutheran Medical Center
Des Peres Hospital
San Diego Naval Medical Center
Affinity Medical Center: Doctors Campus
Marshfield Clinic and St. Joseph’s Hospital Program
Genesys Health Systems
Henry Ford Health System/ Henry Ford Bi-Cnty
Garden City Hospital

INTERNAL MEDICINE (43)

Garden City Hospital
St. Joseph Health Care
Kansas University Medical Center (2)
Medical College of Georgia (2)
University of Mississippi (3)
University of Tennessee
Brooke Army Medical Center (2)
Portsmouth Navy Medical Center
St. Joseph’s Mercy of MACOMB
Indiana University (2)
E.W. Sparrow Hospital
University of Missouri, KC
Pontiac Osteopathic Hospital
University of Kansas Medical Center: Wichitaw
Pacific Hospital
University of North Texas Health Science Center
Grandview Hospital and Medical Center
Oregon Health Science University
St. John Detroit Riverview
Virginia Commonwealth University
Ingham Regional Medical Center (3)
Keesler AFB Medical Center
Walter Reed Army Medical Center
Medical College of Wisconsin
University of Texas
St. Louis University Hospital
Mercy Hospital and Medical Center
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital
Cleveland Clinic Foundation (2)
University of Southern California
Cuyahoga Falls General Hospital
St. John Oakland Hospital
Plaza Medical Center of Fort Worth
University of Nevada

INTERNAL MEDICINE/PEDIATRICS (1)

University of Illinois

INTERNAL MEDICINE/PSYCHIATRY (1)

Kansas University Medical Center

INTERNAL MEDICINE/EMERGENCY MEDICINE (1)

Wheeling Hospital


NEUROLOGY (4)

Loma Linda University
University of Texas SW Medical School
Thomas Jefferson University
Botsford General Hospital

NEUROLOGICAL SURGERY (1)

Doctor’s Hospital-Columbus

OTOLARYNGOLOGY/FACIAL PLASTIC SURGERY (2)

Mt. Clemens Regional Medical Center
Affinity Medical Center-Doctors Campus

ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY (8)

Pontiac Osteopathic Hospital (2)
Oklahoma State University Tulsa Regional Medical Center
Grandview Hospital and Medical Center (2)
St. Anthony Hospital (2)
Henry Ford Health System/Henry Ford Bi-Cnty

OBSTETRICS & GYNECOLOGY (12)

Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital (2)
Akron General Medical Center
SUNY Buffalo
Oregon Health Science University
University of Missouri, KC
Abington Memorial Hospital
University of Missouri
St. Luke’s Hospital
University of South Alabama
San Diego Naval Medical Center
Portsmouth Navy Medical Center

PEDIATRICS (13)

University of Missouri, Children’s Mercy Hospital (6)
Greenville Hospital System University Medical Center of South Carolina
Kansas University Medical Center
Pitt County Memorial Hospital of Brody SOM
University of Miami, Miami Children’s Hospital
Henry Ford Health System/Henry Ford Bi-Cnty
University of Iowa, Blank Children’s Hospital
University of Tennessee, T.C. Thompson Children’s Hospital

PATHOLOGY (3)

Ball Memorial Hospital of Indiana University
Kansas University Medical Center
University of Texas SW Medical School

PSYCHIATRY (6)

University of Illinois COM
Kansas University Medical Center
University of Arkansas: Little Rock (2)
University of Missouri
University of Minnesota Medical School

PHYSICAL MEDICINE & REHABILITATION (4)

University of Missouri: Columbia
Loyola University Hospital
Baylor College of Medicine
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University

PRELIMINARY INTERNAL MEDICINE (3)

University of Missouri, KC (2)
SUNY Upstate Medical University

PRELIMINARY SURGERY (3)

University of Arkansas: Little Rock
Fairview Health System Program
University of Minnesota Medical School

TRADITIONAL ROTATING INTERNSHIP (51)

University of New England
Providence Hospital: Southfield
Oakwood Southshore Hospital (3)
Riverside Methodist Hospital
St. Joseph’s Health Center (2)
Penisula Hospital Center
St. James Hospital and Health Center (2)
Lutheran Medical Center
St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center
Des Peres Hospital
Kennedy Memorial Hospital
Palms West Hospital
Memorial Hospital
Pontiac Osteopathic Hospital (4)
Tulsa Regional Medical Center
Grandview Hospital and Medical Center (3)
New Hanover Regional Medical Center
Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital
San Diego Naval Medical Center
Doctor’s Hospital-Columbus
Affinity Medical Center-Doctors Campus
University of Missouri
Via Christi Regional Medical Center (2)
Madigan Army Medical Center
Portsmouth Navy Medical Center
Obleness Memorial Hospital
St. John West Shore Hospital
Genesys Health Systems (2)
Metro Health Hospital
Illinois Masonic Medical Center
St. Anthony Hospital (2)
Bay Area Corpus Christi Medical Center
St. Barnabas Hospital
Henry Ford Health System/Henry Ford Bi-Cnty
Northside Hospital and Heart Institute
Tripler Army Medical Center
Garden City Hospital
Lehigh/Valley Muhlenberg
Botsford General Hospital

UROLOGY (1)

Metro Health Hospital
 
Anyone have OhioUCOMs matchlist?
 
Does anybody have the update allo match for vcom or allo info for the previous year's match list?
 
igcgnerd said:
Does anybody have the update allo match for vcom or allo info for the previous year's match list?
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There is no previous year's match list for the allo match or Osteo match because this is the 1st class to graduate from VCOM.

As far as the allo match is concerned we have an internal memo the school sent to everyone that lists where folks matched. For privacy I will not post it but I will go through and list some of the area's:

OB/GYN:
Med college Georgia
Georgetown
U conn
U OK

Radiology:
a couple at Wake Forest

Anesthesia:
Case Western
Temple
U Texas Dallas

other specialties. I don't want to go through the whole list but it looks good and the typical assortment of Fam Meds, IMs, surgery Med/Peds-otolarynology(ENT) -- at several state universities, Dartmouth-Duke-UNC - Case Western- Cleveland Clinic more than I want to list but you get the idea. Maybe VCOM will release later. They should.

There were more people denied good residencies in osteopathic community from VCOM than from Allo world. Some in the osteo community said VCOM was an unknown. The allo world seemed to not care and if your numbers were competitive you were given a shot.
 
It is a nice list with some competitive specialities on there. I'm always weary to think that EVERY class will be like that. It'd be nice, but I'd say you really need to give it 3 years or so to let VCOM define itself in the community. Basically....keep up the good work. 😉
 
MossPoh said:
It is a nice list with some competitive specialities on there. I'm always weary to think that EVERY class will be like that. It'd be nice, but I'd say you really need to give it 3 years or so to let VCOM define itself in the community. Basically....keep up the good work. 😉
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True that for being cautious about every class but for the most part, where you match has little to do with the CLASS. It is individual performance and personality. Many of those students who did well on the match were kick a$$ students who kicked a$$ on the boards and they were able to play nice with others on their rotations. So they were liked.

I hate to get into whether it's the schools responsibility to make you competitive or not. I believe the school is only there to lay a strong foundation. The rest is up to you.

VCOM curriculum has gotten much better and more organized since that first class, and if the first class is any indicator of future performance then we who follow should do better.
 
DrVanNostran said:
Crickets from NYCOM...
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I know sorry guys. Normally I'm the one who posts the NYCOM match list but since I graduated I'm out of the loop. I even called the school and they said that they haven't made it electronic yet.

This is likely true because every year I took the paper copy typed out the info on SDN. Oh well I guess we just have to wait.

If I do get my hand on one though, I'll post it.
 
jaydoc07 said:
Thanks for the link. It appears that all of these programs require completion of general surgery residency first, or at least 4 years of it. That's kind of a bummer for those that would like to match right out of med school.
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The overwhelming theme in the medical world, allopathic and osteopathic, is general surgery training prior to plastic surgery.

There are intergrated plastic surgery programs but they are tough to get...lots of applicants for not so many spots.
 
newby02 said:
Does anyone have the VCOM matchlist?
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We got an email a while back:

After much waiting and anticipation, VCOM is extremely excited to announce our internship and residency match positions for the Class of 2007! As you will see, they are very impressive. This will be updated shortly after March 15 with results from the NRMP (aka: the allopathic match).



Some additional interesting facts are:



1) 92% of VCOM students who entered the osteopathic match received their FIRST choice (compared to 87% nationally)

2) 56% of VCOM students matched in the military or osteopathic match (compared to 47% nationally) so we will likely end up with more students in osteopathic programs than the national pool of DO graduates

3) 26% of VCOM students who we have data on plan to purse Family Medicine; 15% plan to pursue IM; 14% EM; 7% OB/Gyn per our preliminary results. While these rates will change when all placements are in, these are above the national placements date-to-date for these primary care areas.

4) A more defined breakdown of specialty choices will be available after the NRMP but take a look at the other specialty areas – our students also did very well in obtaining programs in competitive specialties!

I tried to post the hospitals but that isn't exactly working. We had an email about allopathic after this. 36 matched allopathic.
 
Anyone planning to update the lists? They re about 2 years behind (missing 2006 and 2007 matchlists).

Anyone have michigan states matchlist?
 
beastmaster said:
NYCOM list just went up for us. Enjoy.
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"PEDS NEURO
HARVARD/CHILDREN's/BIDMC, Boston, MA"

First DO grad to match into a Harvard hospital...?

Oh, and

"SURGERY - PRELIMINARY
JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL, BALTIMORE, MD"

Nice work 👍
 
Oculus Sinistra said:
"PEDS NEURO
HARVARD/CHILDREN's/BIDMC, Boston, MA"

First DO grad to match into a Harvard hospital...?

Oh, and

"SURGERY - PRELIMINARY
JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL, BALTIMORE, MD"

Nice work 👍
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:wow::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
Oculus Sinistra said:
"PEDS NEURO
HARVARD/CHILDREN's/BIDMC, Boston, MA"

First DO grad to match into a Harvard hospital...?

Oh, and

"SURGERY - PRELIMINARY
JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL, BALTIMORE, MD"

Nice work 👍
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Not the first. There are graduates from UNECOM who matched into IM and ANES respectively at the Brigham, a Harvard hospital.
 
Oculus Sinistra said:
"PEDS NEURO
HARVARD/CHILDREN's/BIDMC, Boston, MA"

First DO grad to match into a Harvard hospital...?

Nice work 👍
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NOT at all the first. There are several DO's in anesthesia at Brigham & Women's Hospital, just to name a few that have already broken through there. Grads from NYCOM, CCOM, and others. Yes, it's rare, but it has been done.

(Also, someone at DMU had that Hopkins surgery match a year ago - these matches aren't as uncommon as you'd think!)
 
HemaOncoDoc said:
Not the first. There are graduates from UNECOM who matched into IM and ANES respectively at the Brigham, a Harvard hospital.
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Agreed.

As another poster had mentioned other folks from different Osteopathic institutions have matched at "prestigious" institutions.


Wook
 
Orthodoc40 said:
NOT at all the first. There are several DO's in anesthesia at Brigham & Women's Hospital, just to name a few that have already broken through there. Grads from NYCOM, CCOM, and others. Yes, it's rare, but it has been done.
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Excellent. I vaguely recalled a thread in pre-DO about the lack of DO matches into Harvard. Perhaps it was settled after I lost a hold of it, I don't know. I knew that Yale has traditionally been very DO-friendly.

Orthodoc40 said:
(Also, someone at DMU had that Hopkins surgery match a year ago - these matches aren't as uncommon as you'd think!)
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I knew that someone at NSUCOM matched Gen Surg at Vanderbilt and I knew that multiple DO's have matched into primary care (usually IM) or pathology positions at Hopkins. Whether DO or MD, it's an impressive match.
 
Oculus Sinistra said:
Excellent. I vaguely recalled a thread in pre-DO about the lack of DO matches into Harvard. Perhaps it was settled after I lost a hold of it, I don't know. I knew that Yale has traditionally been very DO-friendly.

I knew that someone at NSUCOM matched Gen Surg at Vanderbilt and I knew that multiple DO's have matched into primary care (usually IM) or pathology positions at Hopkins. Whether DO or MD, it's an impressive match.
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Yah - it IS rare, for sure, but it has happened, and probably can happen again, who knows?! I think that it is very tough to get an HMS match (esp. in certain specialties) and that may always be true, but a few have managed it. They probably kicked butt on everything. 😀
 
As usual, NYCOM match list is awesome!! 👍
 
Ahhhhh....the matchlists havent been updated for 2 years now. THere are 2006 and 2007 matchlists available. AHHHHHHhhh cookie monster no like.
 
ketafol said:
Anyone have MSUCOM?
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I read on a post here once that MSU doesn't post one since Michigan is one of the special states that requires a transitional internship, and since most of MSU's grads do residency in michigan, the list would just look pretty much like...

Transitional Intership
Transitional Intership
Transitional Intership
Transitional Intership
Transitional Intership
Transitional Intership

....or something like that. Although, I don't see why they couldn't tell us where those people go after the internship year. Also, I am not a medical student, so my understanding of the internship year thing might not be completely accurate.
 
JPHazelton said:
The overwhelming theme in the medical world, allopathic and osteopathic, is general surgery training prior to plastic surgery.

There are intergrated plastic surgery programs but they are tough to get...lots of applicants for not so many spots.
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Okay I don't know if this will get answered but I didn't want to start a new thread. But ... so what are the options for plastic. As far as I can tell (please correct me if I'm wrong and add):

- You can do your general surgery, and then match into a fellowship ( does this fellowship mean cosmetic ergo you are board certified?).
- You can do ENT then match into a fellowship
- Then I see some residencies (such as the Henry Ford center in MI) where it says people are doing a residency in OTO - Facial Plastic. Does this mean that if they wanted to like say be a private plastic surgeon, they would still need to do a fellowship to be board certified cosmetic??
Any light on the subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Also, are there DO schools that are better to match into these OTO programs (such as PCOM) or to match into general surgery at a hospital that would give you a better chance to match into a plastic fellowship??
 
allo here, can’t help you with much of the DO info. but regarding plastic surgery, there is only one American Board of Plastic Surgery... to review the requirements go here https://www.abplsurg.org/ModDefault.aspx?section=TrainingRequire

there are numerous other "boards" often if not all are focused on aesthetic practices, facial, optho...etc. so if this is your desire that is great, go for it. (yes i know some do cleft work...etc. but this is not the general theme)

most people when you say plastic surgery think cosmo...sadly this is far from the truth. for a board certified plastic surgeon, cosmo training is a very small part of your other focuses including hand (trauma, reconstruction, elective), pedi craniofacial/adult reconstructive (clefts-facial, lip,nose,palate, etc, craniofacial reconstruction..etc), general reconstructive surgery (upper extremity, trunk + breast, abdomen, GU, lower extremity) often involving techniques of manipulating flaps/grafts (from simple skin to complex composite free tissue transfer with micro)
you are not limited to an anatomic area, not limited by age, gender. the fun and exhausting part is you have to be an expert of anatomy nearly everywhere. your residency goes from peeling off a cranium, breaking it up and reshaping it on a table an putting it back together, to replanting a few fingers, maybe a few tendon transfers then take a muscle out of someone with its pedicle and hook it up elsewhere under a scope...then go see your facelift patient in the office.


so not to sound like im preachin..but figure out what you want..and what you mean by when you say Plastic Surgery. hopefully the link above also helps you. you may also pm me if you have any questions (or anyone) 🙂
 
plastikosmd said:
most people when you say plastic surgery think cosmo...sadly this is far from the truth. for a board certified plastic surgeon, cosmo training is a very small part of your other focuses including hand (trauma, reconstruction, elective), pedi craniofacial/adult reconstructive (clefts-facial, lip,nose,palate, etc, craniofacial reconstruction..etc), general reconstructive surgery (upper extremity, trunk + breast, abdomen, GU, lower extremity) often involving techniques of manipulating flaps/grafts (from simple skin to complex composite free tissue transfer with micro)
you are not limited to an anatomic area, not limited by age, gender. the fun and exhausting part is you have to be an expert of anatomy nearly everywhere. your residency goes from peeling off a cranium, breaking it up and reshaping it on a table an putting it back together, to replanting a few fingers, maybe a few tendon transfers then take a muscle out of someone with its pedicle and hook it up elsewhere under a scope...then go see your facelift patient in the office.
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WOW!!! That sounds way more exciting than I thought it was! 😍
Thanks for the inspiration! :biglove:
 
no problem..it is a great and very broad field...good luck
 
JaggerPlate said:
- You can do your general surgery, and then match into a fellowship ( does this fellowship mean cosmetic ergo you are board certified?).
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As mentioned above, there are different types of fellowships from Cosmetic to true Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery.

- You can do ENT then match into a fellowship
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Some programs will accept ENT residents.

- Then I see some residencies (such as the Henry Ford center in MI) where it says people are doing a residency in OTO - Facial Plastic. Does this mean that if they wanted to like say be a private plastic surgeon, they would still need to do a fellowship to be board certified cosmetic??
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OTO-Facial Plastics = ENT


Also, are there DO schools that are better to match into these OTO programs (such as PCOM) or to match into general surgery at a hospital that would give you a better chance to match into a plastic fellowship??
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If you want ENT then look at schools with an ENT program. If you want true plastic surgery, then look at schools with a plastics program. PCOM has both.
 
So JPH, is it common to do a general surg residency and then one of the many plastic fellowships available? And if so, are the fellowships extremely competitive?
 
I will leave the questions regarding DO fellowships to JP as i know very little about them. however..there is an interesting thread in the plastic forum under the surgery section on this site..i guess amcas is looking put some effort in moving things towards a 5-6 year training only. if you are early in your career..it looks like it would be important to try and shoot for intergrated/combined as the future of training may change.
 
plastikosmd said:
I will leave the questions regarding DO fellowships to JP as i know very little about them. however..there is an interesting thread in the plastic forum under the surgery section on this site..i guess amcas is looking put some effort in moving things towards a 5-6 year training only. if you are early in your career..it looks like it would be important to try and shoot for intergrated/combined as the future of training may change.
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That's very interesting, thank you for the insight again.
 
plastikosmd said:
I will leave the questions regarding DO fellowships to JP as i know very little about them. however..there is an interesting thread in the plastic forum under the surgery section on this site..i guess amcas is looking put some effort in moving things towards a 5-6 year training only. if you are early in your career..it looks like it would be important to try and shoot for intergrated/combined as the future of training may change.
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Alright, so I just went and read that forum, and it actually sounds like bad news for DOs. It seems like if all programs go integrated that it would be harder, because I don't know how many DO integrated programs would open up. If this goes into play, does that mean someone couldn't do general surgery and then a cosmetic fellowship and say have a private practice? It seems like they are getting rid of the 'traditional' route and only making it so combined/integrated programs exist which seems like it would mess up a lot of people. So this seems like the only way to become a plastic surgeon is to either a. match into a completely integrated program (plastic surgeon resident from day one) or b. a combined program, which means you would have to do both general surg and plastic at the same institution, but does this also mean that you would have to apply for that program as general surg/plastics, or could you go general surgery and then apply for the plastic program at the same insitution. I'm very confused now, and need some clarification. Also (JPH) what is the program at PCOM like, and how difficult is it for OOS students to get in to PCOM ( I'm from California). Sorry if my posts seem repetitive or noobish.😀
 
JaggerPlate said:
So JPH, is it common to do a general surg residency and then one of the many plastic fellowships available? And if so, are the fellowships extremely competitive?
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The plastics fellowship at PCOM has been filled with PCOM general surgery residents the past few years.
 
JPHazelton said:
The plastics fellowship at PCOM has been filled with PCOM general surgery residents the past few years.
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But if the new combined/integrated only thing goes into play, does that mean that the program wont't exist as a fellowship? I wish someone could shine some light on what these new changes mean, and if the traditional route of independent gen surg and then plastic fellowship are a thing of the past? Also what all this means for people who wanted to go DO, into general surg and then plastic ...
 
dont know a great deal about it..other than what i read...but it does appear that you are right..that there is going to be a greater shift to a 5 year training program. i have always been told (no idea if this is the truth..but im sure someone here knows) that the gearing of 5 years of training is based on government reimbursement..and that there is very little reimbursement after 5 years. if this is true...it would be a substantial driving force...follow the money. i know when i interviewed years ago..there were some strong feelings among some of the fellowship models that this was the only way to do it (the old way). i really doubt these programs will change quickly and probably would search for other sources of funding if forced to change. as long as the board certification doesn’t change those programs would remain viable..of course this is conjecture...but it is all the hope i can offer. if you want plastic first shoot intergrated..and then use a backup, pick your backup at a place that offers a plastic fellowship and get involved early.
 
plastikosmd said:
dont know a great deal about it..other than what i read...but it does appear that you are right..that there is going to be a greater shift to a 5 year training program. i have always been told (no idea if this is the truth..but im sure someone here knows) that the gearing of 5 years of training is based on government reimbursement..and that there is very little reimbursement after 5 years. if this is true...it would be a substantial driving force...follow the money. i know when i interviewed years ago..there were some strong feelings among some of the fellowship models that this was the only way to do it (the old way). i really doubt these programs will change quickly and probably would search for other sources of funding if forced to change. as long as the board certification doesn’t change those programs would remain viable..of course this is conjecture...but it is all the hope i can offer. if you want plastic first shoot intergrated..and then use a backup, pick your backup at a place that offers a plastic fellowship and get involved early.
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Thanks, you have been very helpful. I will shoot for integrated for sure, but I think it would be a little stiff for a DO (no reason to not try at all though). I kinda feel the same way about the fellowships disappearing though. I would think that they would find a way to keep it going. Any further information you obtain is appreciated.
 
JaggerPlate said:
Thanks, you have been very helpful. I will shoot for integrated for sure, but I think it would be a little stiff for a DO (no reason to not try at all though). I kinda feel the same way about the fellowships disappearing though. I would think that they would find a way to keep it going. Any further information you obtain is appreciated.
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Hi Jaggerplate

The ACGME move to end PRS fellowships does not apply to AOA PRS fellowships. Best wishes!.
 
medhacker said:
Hi Jaggerplate

The ACGME move to end PRS fellowships does not apply to AOA PRS fellowships. Best wishes!.
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So it's still possible to do general surgery then enter an AOA PRS fellowship? How common are those?? Thank you for updating though!!
 
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