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Hi everyone, hopefully this is in the right forum. (It’s my first post so forgive me if it’s posted in the wrong spot.)

I was looking for information about Ross university school of medicine or other Caribbean schools. A friend of mine went to nursing school with me but flunked out about halfway through. After a 2nd fail, the school dismissed her from the program. About two years later, I see that she’s in med school at Ross all over her facebook. This girl barely had a 3.0 during nursing school and I’m just wondering how it’s possible to fail out of an American nursing program and then be successful in a Caribbean med school. Are admissions to these schools pretty lax? I was considering PA school in the future (I have a 3.8 GPA in 3 degrees) but now I’m seriously considering just taking the route my friend took. Does anyone know the percentage of students that get admitted to Ross that eventually graduate & become US physicians?


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Hi everyone, hopefully this is in the right forum. (It’s my first post so forgive me if it’s posted in the wrong spot.)

I was looking for information about Ross university school of medicine or other Caribbean schools. A friend of mine went to nursing school with me but flunked out about halfway through. After a 2nd fail, the school dismissed her from the program. About two years later, I see that she’s in med school at Ross all over her facebook. This girl barely had a 3.0 during nursing school and I’m just wondering how it’s possible to fail out of an American nursing program and then be successful in a Caribbean med school. Are admissions to these schools pretty lax? I was considering PA school in the future (I have a 3.8 GPA in 3 degrees) but now I’m seriously considering just taking the route my friend took. Does anyone know the percentage of students that get admitted to Ross that eventually graduate & become US physicians?


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Caribbean schools are predatory. Your friend isn't going to succeed, they just dont care and admitted her anyways. Easy money for them.
 
Yes admissions are very lax.
You have a good GPA, and pending MCAT you could get into any US med school. Your GPA is fine for PA as well. For you in particular, you have no need to go to any Carib school, as you’re perfectly competitive already stat-wise.

Nursing and medicine are very different, but if she struggled through nursing school, I wouldnt be surprised if she struggles through med school.
 
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Moving to pre-med.

Agree with above, with your GPA you should aim for a US MD or DO school. Honestly, the Caribbean route is very high risk as they have low admissions standards and will flunk you out if they think you won't do well on the USMLEs (US medical licensing exams). There are certainly people who go that route and succeed but it's a gamble.
 
What others have said about Caribbean schools all holds true- they accept basically anybody they believe is able to pay for tuition. They also have a pretty heavy drop rate as students who are accepted realize courses are harder than they had expected and find themselves unhappy. However, it is still possible for her to be successful, as your friend might have realized what a financial investment she made and is taking things more seriously. If I remember correctly, roughly 40% of people who enter Caribbean medical schools will end up as physicians in the US.

However, with your GPA, you should have no problem applying to a regular American MD school and as long as you get a good MCAT score, you shouldn't even have to consider Caribbean.

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Hi everyone, hopefully this is in the right forum. (It’s my first post so forgive me if it’s posted in the wrong spot.)

I’m just wondering how it’s possible to fail out of an American nursing program and then be successful in a Caribbean med school.

It’s not. Expect a post about how medicine isn’t right for her in a few months.

Does anyone know the percentage of students that get admitted to Ross that eventually graduate & become US physicians?

Somewhere in the realm of 50%.
 
And that is if she manages to graduate at all; the failures raise serious concerns about her academic competency. Either do well on a postbacc and the MCAT and apply to MD and DO schools, or don't go to medical school at all. If your academic performance is absolutely top-notch stellar, you want to become a primary care doctor, and you have a red flag or something, maybe the massive Carib gamble will work out in your favor.
 
- Ross U admitted someone with assault/sexual misdemeanor. This person became the Bronx-Lebanon shooter (Bello).
- St James admitted someone who committed forgery, impersonation, and shoplifting. This person failed to obtain a residency in either surgery/family medicine (Litwin).

These schools don't just admit people with low GPAs or bad MCAT scores. They admit people who have done awful things in society because they don't give a **** about who they let through the door. These two are the most notable cases because they are people who have blatantly made their actions known, however there are likely many other "students" rejected from schools not because of poor academics, but having no moral character. It's not about giving you a second chance, its about adding another body into a class of 120+ students that is one of several cohorts for the year. I believe that criminals should be allowed rehabilitation, but being a medical physician should be the last profession that is put forth as a means to recovery.
 
Apply MD/DO for at least 2 cycles then you can reconsider Caribbean schools if you somehow do not make it to a medical school with a 3.8 and at least a 508 MCAT. One day you'll be ubering around and SURPRISE: it's your failed nursing friend driving. Also anyone actively flaunting med school on facebook should be spending the time studying. Welcome to SDN - browse around the Caribbean forum (Caribbean) and decide for yourself.
 
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Apply MD/DO for at least 2 cycles then you can reconsider Caribbean schools if you somehow do not make it to a medical school with a 3.8 and at least a 508 MCAT. One day you'll be ubering around and SURPRISE: it's your failed nursing friend driving. Also anyone actively flaunting med school on facebook should be spending the time studying. Welcome to SDN - browse around the Caribbean forum (Caribbean) and decide for yourself.

I once met an uber driver who graduated from Harvard med, worked in the White House, and did his general surgery residency at UCLA. No joke. He was driving uber to support himself for some startup. Anyways, you shouldn't assume that individuals from other professions are beneath you just because you are pursuing medicine.
 
I once met an uber driver who graduated from Harvard med, worked in the White House, and did his general surgery residency at UCLA. No joke. He was driving uber to support himself for some startup. Anyways, you shouldn't assume that individuals from other professions are beneath you just because you are pursuing medicine.
When did I say uber drivers are beneath me? I actually would be ubering people around right now if my car was registered in the state I am currently living. Fyi I work at starbucks atm to pay bills.
 
When did I say uber drivers are beneath me? I actually would be ubering people around right now if my car was registered in the state I am currently living. Fyi I work at starbucks atm to pay bills.

"One day you'll be ubering around and SURPRISE: it's your failed nursing friend driving."

You assumed that she was a failure because she was driving uber.
 
"One day you'll be ubering around and SURPRISE: it's your failed nursing friend driving."

You assumed that she was a failure because she was driving uber.
Someone failed CARS. The point was she is currently not in a residency and is not involved in direct patient care because she is an IMG and failed to match.
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Also if your “Harvard, Whitehouse, UCLA uber driver” was who he said he was (maybe he was) your telling me he did not save up enough money and had to become an Uber driver when there are so many other jobs (Besides working at a hospital) he can do that earn more money? Maybe he wanted the flexibility, sure.

Also if you read the OP’s first post, she failed out of nursing school hence why i said “failed nursing friend.” But thanks for attacking me.
 
Someone failed CARS. The point was she is currently not in a residency and is not involved in direct patient care because she is an IMG and failed to match.
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Also if your “Harvard, Whitehouse, UCLA uber driver” was who he said he was (maybe he was) your telling me he did not save up enough money and had to become an Uber driver when there are so many other jobs (Besides working at a hospital) he can do that earn more money? Maybe he wanted the flexibility, sure.

Also if you read the OP’s first post, she failed out of nursing school hence why i said “failed nursing friend.” But thanks for attacking me.

I'm not attacking you. You're the one resorting to immature ad hominems, saying that I failed CARS. I personally don't care that you work at Starbucks. It doesn't offset the claim you made. You clearly stated that that once the nursing student failed out of IMG, she would be working for Uber. You made a connection between failure and driving for uber.
 
I once met an uber driver who graduated from Harvard med, worked in the White House, and did his general surgery residency at UCLA. No joke. He was driving uber to support himself for some startup. Anyways, you shouldn't assume that individuals from other professions are beneath you just because you are pursuing medicine.

Please tell me you didn't believe him for a second. A boarded surgeon can make many times what an Uber driver makes just by working locums. There's no way a surgeon would drive Uber unless he was barred from working as a doctor. He could make more working one shift at an urgent care than he could make all week driving Uber.
 
I'm not attacking you. You're the one resorting to immature ad hominems, saying that I failed CARS. I personally don't care that you work at Starbucks. It doesn't offset the claim you made. You clearly stated that that once the nursing student failed out of IMG, she would be working for Uber. You made a connection between failure and driving for uber.
Me working for starbucks and knowing that you need a car registered in the same state to drive for uber (meaning I looked at potentially driving for uber) discredits your claim that I assume “individuals from other professions are beneath me.” What I hate most is people assuming something about me which is totally untrue. Believe what you want. My point is I do not look down on people in other professions - and yes, she failed to match and is driving for Uber, but that does not mean that all uber drivers are failures.
 
Me working for starbucks and knowing that you need a car registered in the same state to drive for uber (meaning I looked at potentially driving for uber) discredits your claim that I assume “individuals from other professions are beneath me.” What I hate most is people assuming something about me which is totally untrue. Believe what you want. My point is I do not look down on people in other professions - and yes, she failed to match and is driving for Uber, but that does not mean that all uber drivers are failures.

I lacked that information before I made that comment. Anyways, with that that new information, I apologize and take back what I said.
 
I lacked that information before I made that comment. Anyways, with that that new information, I apologize and take back what I said.
I apologize too. You are applying to MD schools - I couldn’t hack it with my low GPA and MCAT! I wish you the best in your cycle.
 
Please tell me you didn't believe him for a second. A boarded surgeon can make many times what an Uber driver makes just by working locums. There's no way a surgeon would drive Uber unless he was barred from working as a doctor. He could make more working one shift at an urgent care than he could make all week driving Uber.

I was skeptical as well, but after questioning him, I don't doubt the claims that he made. He clearly knew the surgical lingo, the faculty at my institution, he spoke about his research in CSF leaks using the jargon that one would expect, and spoke at length about his time as a surgeon.

Maybe he was disembarred, but if anything he was a surgeon.
 
I once met an uber driver who graduated from Harvard med, worked in the White House, and did his general surgery residency at UCLA. No joke. He was driving uber to support himself for some startup. Anyways, you shouldn't assume that individuals from other professions are beneath you just because you are pursuing medicine.
Don't assume that everyone you meet who tells you tales is a not a mental patient or a pathological liar.
 
Whoah, thanks for all of the replies y’all. I’m seriously just considering the PA route next year. I think at this point, I’m just ready to be done with school. (2 more years for PA vs 4 years of med school plus however long a residency is) Going to med school in another country just to wind up in family practice or internal med doesn’t seem really worth it I suppose. When I spoke to her, she just told me she was going to go into anesthesia and I was just a bit shocked. No hate, just surprised that this was possible is all.
 
Carrib schools are last resort. The people who make it out and get into respectable specialties really reinvent themselves and have there s**t together.
 
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