RVU-COM (Rocky Vista - Colorado) Discussion thread 2007-2008

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WARNING: This thread is for current applicants to discuss the school. If you're interested in discussing your opinion on RVU, please post in this thread. If you post in this thread to specifically bash the school, you will be warned and your post either deleted or moved to the other thread.

 

[jp104]

Just wanted to be the first (non-admin) post in what is sure to be a legendary thread on SDN 🙂

Question: What kind of credit rating do you need to be accepted? For those accepted, can you please post your financial stats. thanks!

 

[Collide]

Just wanted to be the first (non-admin) post in what is sure to be a legendary thread on SDN 🙂

Question: What kind of credit rating do you need to be accepted? For those accepted, can you please post your financial stats. thanks!

I'll ask on Tuesday when two of their admissions people are at my school. 🙂

 

[Vee]

Just wanted to be the first (non-admin) post in what is sure to be a legendary thread on SDN 🙂

Question: What kind of credit rating do you need to be accepted? For those accepted, can you please post your financial stats. thanks!

lol

 

[bzkda]

Is the only for-profit medical school? I couldn't find any others. What are some opinions about the school? I am interested in if it will be a good school, and will it be looked at as the same as all other medical schools? And will the students recieve the same oppurtunities? I am just curious, I don't want to start mean arguments. I am just looking for what people think about this school. They seem to have put a lot of effort into equipment, technology and faculty.

 

[bioteach]

Do a search. There are about 5.2 million opinions have been voiced regarding Rocky Vista in both osteo and pre-osteo forums. Its the only for-profit on US soil, I believe.

 

[bzkda]

Right, I know I have searched nobody gives any opinions they just argument if it is right or not. Does that make it a good school? Or have the potential to be a good school? Are people applying to it?

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I don't think there is any way of knowing exactly what the quality of education is there, because the first ever class will be enrolling next year. I can't imagine they will get a lot of established instructors to teach there though.

 

[bioteach]

So, I was at my interview for a DO school and one question I was asked was, "what is the biggest problem in osteopathic medicine today?" or something to that effect. I talked about the rapid expansion of schools and mentioned Rocky Vista and its for-profit status. It seemed like the panel may have agreed with me, but then one of the professors interviewing me said that he had a "number of collegues that would be teaching at Rocky Vista (doh!) and that they would have a very strong academic program". Made me kind of feel like a dumba$$ for raggin' on the program and then he mentions how he has friends that will be teaching there. Oh well, at least I stood by my opinions and I could answer the question intelligently.

Someone else that day was asked about A.T. Still and their response was "Was that the guy that invented osteopathic medicine"?

 

[scpod]

I can't imagine they will get a lot of established instructors to teach there though.

Don't kid yourself. Two of our professors are going to Rocky Vista. One is leaving in December and the other a few months later. Both of them are really good people and great teachers. Regardelss of how you feel about for-profit medical education, the professors could care less about that and they are not likely to suffer from a lack of quality instructors.

 

[jzeidenb]

i mean, i know a lot of people are down on this school b/c of the for-profit sticker.. but the only reason i tend to shy away from it is that i dont wanna be part of the inaugural class that has to go through the major growing pains of finding out what works for a particular school.

 

[Meatwad]

I don't really buy all the doom and gloom around RVU. With that said, I don't ever want to live in Colorado, so there's no way I'd apply. Too much elevation for my sea-level brain.

 

[Barts]

I don't really buy all the doom and gloom around RVU. With that said, I don't ever want to live in Colorado, so there's no way I'd apply. Too much elevation for my sea-level brain.

I loved Colorado, but the not-government loans would have scared me off if the school was around when I had applied. I hope they really explain the differences between the loan types to all of the applicants.

 

[VictorsLilSecrt]

I'm not trying to be offensive, but I'm really surprised people choose this school over the top 4-5 Caribbean schools. From what I understand, at least the carib schools offer US financial aid in the form of grad plus loans. And, of course, the coveted "MD." And a better shot at legitimate (i.e., non-osteopathic residencies), such as surgery, etc.

I'm just not sure "staying in CO" for 1.5 yrs would be worth it. Actually, I can't imagine a worse career move. But I guess someone has to do it, or else they wouldn't exist.

 

[gasapple]

I'm not trying to be offensive, but I'm really surprised people choose this school over the top 4-5 Caribbean schools. From what I understand, at least the carib schools offer US financial aid in the form of grad plus loans. And, of course, the coveted "MD." And a better shot at legitimate (i.e., non-osteopathic residencies), such as surgery, etc.

I'm just not sure "staying in CO" for 1.5 yrs would be worth it. Actually, I can't imagine a worse career move. But I guess someone has to do it, or else they wouldn't exist.

"Better shot" is relative to the individual - as TexTri said in a post, it's all what the individual student makes out of an opportunity. In fact, I was told by physicians while shadowing to avoid the Caribbean if at all possible - too risky by comparison w/high attrition. I'd never choose the Carib schools over those in the U.S. based solely on clinical rotations, not even taking into account other U.S. standardization factors. Don't get me wrong, El Caribe provides an opportunity as well and I've conversed with excellent physician specialists from there but categorically speaking, I'd choose US schools if I had a choice, no doubt whatsoever.

RVU provides an opportunity and addresses a looming need in the region - there's nothing wrong with that IMO. Board scores will primarily dictate one's path post-med school. I think the school at the professional level has little bearing on the quality of the individual student; it's what said student decides to make of the opportunity and available resources that truly matters in the making of a fine physician.

 

[Barts]

I had a reply to Victor here, but edited out.

 

[Gene Genie]

I am not at all amazed that students find RVUCOM to be a desirable choice. First, there are several options available to fund a Medical education in the absence of federally funded loans. More information on this can be found in a number of locations on-line. Secondly, the Doctor of Osteopathy (D.O.) degree is one which many students choose to obtain. I personally believe strongly in the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, which is why I applied at D.O. schools. Although I may be competetive at allopathic schools, I prefer to attend an osteopathic school. I also prefer to go to an osteopathic doctor for my own care. It is unfortunate that you consider an osteopathic residency as not being legitimate. With all due respect, this view and opinion is a result of ignorance of the profession in general.

Furthermore, I am not choosing RVUCOM simply to stay in Colorado - I happen to believe very strongly that the school will be phenominal.

Perhaps your concern is best directed at a different thread - this thread is for interview discussions.🙂

Clinical rotations will be at Denver Health, St. Anthony's, Rose Medical, Centura Systems hospitals, Health One Hospitals, Memorial (Colo Sprgs), to name a few. All VERY good locations. 👍

 

[gasapple]

I am not at all amazed that students find RVUCOM to be a desirable choice. First, there are several options available to fund a Medical education in the absence of federally funded loans. More information on this can be found in a number of locations on-line. Secondly, the Doctor of Osteopathy (D.O.) degree is one which many students choose to obtain. I personally believe strongly in the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, which is why I applied at D.O. schools. Although I may be competetive at allopathic schools, I prefer to attend an osteopathic school. I also prefer to go to an osteopathic doctor for my own care. It is unfortunate that you consider an osteopathic residency as not being legitimate. With all due respect, this view and opinion is a result of ignorance of the profession in general.

Furthermore, I am not choosing RVUCOM simply to stay in Colorado - I happen to believe very strongly that the school will be phenominal.

Perhaps your concern is best directed at a different thread - this thread is for interview discussions.🙂

Clinical rotations will be at Denver Health, St. Anthony's, Rose Medical, Centura Systems hospitals, Health One Hospitals, Memorial (Colo Sprgs), to name a few. All VERY good locations. 👍

Well stated. 👍

 

[Gene Genie]

Thank you kindly!

 

[medicalbound]

Clinical rotations will be at Denver Health, St. Anthony's, Rose Medical, Centura Systems hospitals, Health One Hospitals, Memorial (Colo Sprgs), to name a few. All VERY good locations. 👍

I agree, very good locations. Did they say how they were going to coordinate the rotations between the RVU and CU students? My impression was that many of the services at these locations were close to capacity with just our students. I'll be done by then, but I'm curious.

 

[Gene Genie]

Good question. I'm not sure how things will coordinate. You guys don't go to all of those hospitals, do you? Where exactly are your rotations in colorado?

 

[ShyRem]

I was also under the impression DG was almost at capacity with just CU students (just try doing an elective there as a non-CU student!). I would be surprised if they made room for RVU (but I've been wrong plenty of times before).

 

[gasapple]

I was also under the impression DG was almost at capacity with just CU students (just try doing an elective there as a non-CU student!). I would be surprised if they made room for RVU (but I've been wrong plenty of times before).

I believe there's an informal relationship with CU that will definitely be fostered more going forward. I would venture to guess that additional rotations will be added at current sites as well as some new sites. I'll be able to provide more accurate information in the coming weeks regarding this and other topics of interest with regard to RVU. I'm making the trip to see what it's all about, leaving no stone unturned! 👍

 

[MaximusD]

I believe there's an informal relationship with CU that will definitely be fostered more going forward. I would venture to guess that additional rotations will be added at current sites as well as some new sites. I'll be able to provide more accurate information in the coming weeks regarding this and other topics of interest with regard to RVU. I'm making the trip to see what it's all about, leaving no stone unturned! 👍

Guesses & assumptions are not something you should base any decisions on, so I think its a great idea for you to view this new, controversial school with polite skepticism.

Until they give you a concrete rotations list of affiliated hospitals, you better leave no stone unturned. I'm gonna tell you right now... RVU will have state-of-the-art equipment and everything will be shiny and new, but that's not going to matter in a few years so don't focus on that.

Some questions to consider that are important to your career and also some that I ahve found to be important:

1. Will we be able to get fixed interest loans?
2. What are the clinical rotations for 3rd and 4th years?
3. What hours of operation will the school have?
4. HOW MANY STUDENTS PER CADAVER? (PCOM usually has 5, but I was unlucky and got 6. It has been too crowded at my table.)
5. How far will I have to travel for rotations?
6. Is there student housing... is there affordable housing in the vicinity?
7. What's the curriculum? Integrated? Problem-based? Traditional?
8. Does the school intend to begin an OPTI program and open residencies at area hospitals?
9. How accessible is administration and faculty?

The list goes on... ask the real questions if you're going to leave "no rock unturned"...

 

[gasapple]

That's a great thing to base your career on... assumptions.

No worries! I've researched the faculty and have I no doubt they know what they are doing. Regardless, I plan on getting the details in person in the coming weeks.

Rest assured, I'm usually thorough. Your questions are exactly what I've been working up; we're on the same page in that regard. Perhaps you should have focused more on the fact that I previously stated that I'd obtain accurate information going forward. One should not chastise based on a simple figure of speech (stone unturned) simply because this is a thread about RVU; you probably wouldn't do that in all seriousness...IMO, negativety toward RVU at this point is tantamount to self-sabotage.

You also shouldn't assume that those interested in information about RVU would be distracted by all things "shiny and new." Most of us here are well-versed (thanks to SDN!) and are aware of the ingredients required for success. Nonetheless, I believe your intent here is generally good and your feedback regarding this topic is appreciated - at least by me, if indeed altruistic.

As I'd already planned and stated, I'll be sure to get the correct information for this thread that is, if Gene Genie doesn't beat me to it! Afterall, she's already been there. Unfortunately, I'm hundreds of miles away so can't obtain any tangible data at the moment.

 

[Gene Genie]

I'm exhausted!

GasApple, where are you from?

 

[gasapple]

I'm exhausted!

GasApple, where are you from?

No doubt, you did your homework! 😀

I originally hail from the Lone Star State but likely want to practice in underserved areas. 👍

 

[Gene Genie]

Hey, I'm from Texas, too - born in Dallas!!

 

[gasapple]

Hey, I'm from Texas, too - born in Dallas!!

Awesome 👍 I definitely miss DFW!

 

[MaximusD]

Wow. Got your bases covered. It sounds like the program is well organized thus far.. and I am glad to see that they're beginning residency programs.

It's too bad that the school went with a for-profit model, because it sounds like a solid program anyway. It's easy to look good on paper, too... who knows. We'll see over the course of our careers how this pans out.

(sorry, I was working)

First off, Katrina - sounds like your stats are very fitting of the new school. I'm excited to have you as a potential classmate! Good luck on your interview! And, don't worry - there is always a way to fund school (private loans, loan repayment options/scholarships).

These are the questions that were asked and my answers to the best of my ability:

1. Will we be able to get fixed interest loans?
Depends on the loan you go with. Yes, and interest rates for next year are set by Citi Bank, NelNet and SalleMae. They will discuss all of this when you meet with financial aid

2. What are the clinical rotations for 3rd and 4th years?
Standard core rotations with standard elective rotations.

Two months IM
One month Surgery
One month Peds
One month Women’ Health
Two months FM
Two months Rural and Community Medicine
Three months of Medical Selective
Two month of surgical selective
One month of ER
One month of OMM
One month of ICU
4 months of Elective


3. What hours of operation will the school have?
School will be open from 6:00am until midnight and study areas will be available 24/7 at the school.

4. HOW MANY STUDENTS PER CADAVER? (PCOM usually has 5, but I was unlucky and got 6. It has been too crowded at my table.)
Four students in each team for the cadaver

5. How far will I have to travel for rotations?
All rotations are in the state of Colorado, and all are around a core hospital. Several are within one hour of the school (Denver, Colorado Springs) - the exception being the rural hospitals at which you are required to do one rotation.

6. Is there student housing... is there affordable housing in the vicinity?
No student housing... yet. But there are plenty of apartment complexes & other rental options in the area throughout a 3 miles circle around school

7. What's the curriculum? Integrated? Problem-based? Traditional?
Standard curriculum, with the added benefit of Genetics (amazing that not all programs offer this!) (I'm a little partial, though!) It is am integrated curriculum, utilizing both didactic and active learning using case based presentations.


8. Does the school intend to begin an OPTI program and open residencies at area hospitals?
Yes, first resident programs are scheduled to open in 2011 in Denver, Pueblo, Grand Junction and Colorado Springs. They said they would send me the "concrete" rotation options as soon as they are available.

9. How accessible is administration and faculty?
Open door policy, faculty mentors, and an amazingly helpful administration. Very accessible. The Dean said that the faculty will not be allowed to develop research/outside projects for the first years in order to provide the students, who do not have the benefit of upperclassmen, with mentorship and tutoring.

All very good questions. Anything else?

 

[Gene Genie]

For-profit, not-for-profit...

Tomato, Tomahto...

 

[VictorsLilSecrt]

I was also under the impression DG was almost at capacity with just CU students (just try doing an elective there as a non-CU student!). I would be surprised if they made room for RVU (but I've been wrong plenty of times before).

Agreed. I was just reading on the ValueMD forum that the Carib schools do this stuff too. They promote they are affiliated with a number of hospitals, but then when you get down to the nitty gritty it turns out they have very few spots there. Far, far fewer than could ever accommodate a 3rd year class.

For example, AUC (RVU's sister school) loves to tell you they have CA-affiliated hospitals like Kern. What they don't tell you is that they only have a couple of spots there for their students. And that >220? step I score is required, some sort of gpa requirement, and that nearly all AUC students are competing for the 2 spots.

If history is any guide, I have a funny feeling the RVU folks will be setting up their own rotations along with most of the other DO/Carib schools.

 

[ShyRem]

I don't know about that, victors. There have been NO students in GJ (although I hear CU is negotiating for a few spots there). I think there are few if any med students in pueblo or Colorado Springs. So there are plenty of spots to be made available, and lots of those places love to teach. While not level 1 trauma centers, they see their share of stuff (GJ is the biggest city between Salt Lake and Denver - they get ski accidents, major highway trauma, and that rock climber who cut off his own arm was originally seen in GJ).

And another upside: there are few residents in those areas. So the med students won't be fighting for procedures with residents. I think the rotations will be set up just fine - I just think it won't be at DG or UHC. Perhaps North Suburban, Ft. Collins, Aurora, Holy Tony's, or places like Boulder, Longmont, Pueblo, GJ. And if you could manage to score an elective ortho rotation in Vail --- WOWZA. But that would probably be a set it up yourself thing.

 

[VictorsLilSecrt]

What? I'm referring to the actual number of spots RVU has in its "affiliated" hospitals. I predict this is the same number as AUC has in its "affiliated" hospitals. i.e., 2-4 spots/hospital.

But this should be easy to confirm by direct correspondence with the hospitals. Please note I said hospitals, not RVU.

In response to your confusing post, just because a hospital is busy and has few students, does not mean they want more students, particularly from a new DO/carib school.

 

[gasapple]

What? I'm referring to the actual number of spots RVU has in its "affiliated" hospitals. I predict this is the same number as AUC has in its "affiliated" hospitals. i.e., 2-4 spots/hospital.

But this should be easy to confirm by direct correspondence with the hospitals. Please note I said hospitals, not RVU.

In response to your confusing post, just because a hospital is busy and has few students, does not mean they want more students, particularly from a new DO/carib school.

RVU is developing these relationships locally. The incentive is based on a regional need - same reasons the school was founded in the first place. More rotations will be added and this is being pursued at a local level with a pronounced presence so it's much different than a non-U.S. school trying to obtain spots. Area hospitals have a vested interest in attracting local medical students who are planning on staying in the area to practice. Other regional educational institutions are also on board with their own affiliated hospitals (such as CU - inquire with current medical students there).

From what I've read, Dr. Martin and Dr. Smith have extensive experience with educational development as it pertains to healthcare and have been working with other key faculty and staff in an effort to obtain the desired spots for rotations. There's also Dr. Cooperman, a renowned local osteopathic physician and national representative who has extensive experience; he has been working to further develop relationships in the area. There's plenty of time before the inaugural class has clinicals and the ongoing efforts by the faculty at RVU can be viewed in various local publications. For one, the COA newsletter has information on the establishment of new rotations and residency positions as they relate to RVU. I'm not located in Colorado so this is all based on my own research.

I'll do my best to provide more specific statistical information after I visit in the near future. I'd like to know all the specific details myself. I can say that after viewing the accomplishments and the efforts of Dr. Cooperman, Dr. Smith, and Dr. Martin, I'm confident that the right local healthcare and educational relationships are being developed; these gentlemen have proven track records that are readily obtainable. I'm sure they'll deliver all this information in due course.

 

[Gene Genie]

Victor, your comments and assumptions are unwarranted and misguided.

RVUCOM is affiliated with MAJOR hospitals in the area (including DH, ShyRem, but no, not at UCH) that have already signed on with enough rotation spots for all of its students. Maybe YOU should do the research and make those calls.

Again, I must site your ignorance regarding your knowledge of the school. RVUCOM is NOT the sister school of AUC - it is an independent university that stands alone - no affiliation other than the investor is the son of the man that started AUC. I thought this point was discussed/put to rest a year ago on this site... and the reference to RVUCOM being a DO/Carib school is sophomoric. Really?? Enough with this already.

ShyRem,

COLORADO
Memorial Health System Colorado Springs Level II Adult & Pediatric
Penrose - St. Francis Health Services Colorado Springs Level II
Denver Health Medical Center Denver Level I
St. Anthony Central Hospital Denver Level I Adult
Swedish Medical Center Englewood Level I Adult & Pediatric
Mary's Hospital Grand Junction Level II Adult
North Colorado Medical Center Greeley Level II
Littleton Adventist Hospital Littleton Level II
St. Mary-Corwin Medical Center Pueblo Level II

RVUCOM has established rotations with Memorial, Penrose, Denver Health, St. Anthony's, Swedish, Sky Ridge, and others - all Level I or Level II trauma centers.

 

[FENDERGUITARMAN]

I too am accepted to RVU. Victors, you are another of the opinion toting individuals posting without any prior knowledge of the school. Unless you have been to an interview, met the staff, and realized the enormous advantage of attending medical school in a rapidly growing area with enormous possibilities for clinical education, your opinion is unfounded. Keep it to yourself because this forum is for people looking for interview info.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Hey guys ... congratulations to everyone on the acceptances to RVU!!! However, I feel as if I should tell everyone that it's in our best interest to keep it civil because this thread literally can't be locked, so if flame wars start going down ... memebers are going to be warned ---> and potentially banned. Plus, there is just no need. Vic ... I wouldn't compare RVU to AUC. I know there are very loose family connections, but the strides that RVU are taking to become established, and the type of applicants they are accepting (all seem great) give us no evidence to believe it till be a DO diploma mill by any means. We all just need to give the school the benefit of the doubt while it is getting established ... it's fine to talk about the residency/rotation options, but no need to throw stuff on there based on emotion/personal feelings about the school ... especially if you can't back it up.


Especialllyyyy ... because there is nothing I hate more than when people lump DO and Carib MD schools in the same category. Give me a break 👎

 

[ShyRem]

I'll be interested to see what at DG y'all get for spots. (sorry, just can't call it DH.) Holy Tony's will be quite good. I took some nasty nasty stuff in there when I was a medic. List looks really good, actually. what are they doing for peds?

 

[VictorsLilSecrt]

Look, there's no need for all the whining. RVU either has a reasonable number of spots in these "affiliated" hospitals, or it doesn't. I'm banking on the latter, and think that Tien learned the good-ole "affiliated hospital trick" from Daddy.

More information about this school is not a bad thing to have. No reason to fight it. We're all agreed that RVU *wants* to be able to place its students in local hospitals. But wanting something is much different that having it.

Show me the numbers.

 

[gasapple]

More information about this school is not a bad thing to have.

Agreed. All in due time.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Look, there's no need for all the whining. RVU either has a reasonable number of spots in these "affiliated" hospitals, or it doesn't. I'm banking on the latter, and think that Tien learned the good-ole "affiliated hospital trick" from Daddy.

More information about this school is not a bad thing to have. No reason to fight it. We're all agreed that RVU *wants* to be able to place its students in local hospitals. But wanting something is much different that having it.

Show me the numbers.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to see the numbers, but it is pretty unfair to make judgements without them. I think everyone here is aware of the issues with RVU, so at this point we shouldn't be making AUC jabs, claiming they can't place their students into rotations ... etc. Like you said, wait until you have 'the numbers' before judgement is made ... on both sides.

 

[RxnMan]

I was also under the impression DG was almost at capacity with just CU students (just try doing an elective there as a non-CU student!). I would be surprised if they made room for RVU (but I've been wrong plenty of times before).

When did you try to set up a rotation? I thought you were still chained to the lecture hall like I am!

By the way - I read in the SDN EM forums that you should start calling DG in Jan of your 3rd-year to set up a 4th-year EM sub-I (as opposed to April for most places) in order to get ahead of the rush.

Others - DG is a great place for just about any speciality (EM or otherwise). I was allowed to do some basic procedures there as a pre-med! 😱

 

[nascardoc]

I interview there next week on the 12th (Monday), and am really excited. Anyone who has interviewed there, a PM with advice/insight would be appreciated.

As far as I understand, the school is not eligible for Stafford loans until it has been fully accredited. Until then, as the site says, students are eligible for military scholarship--and this school would be a great one to use it for.

Sorry to bust into the thread, but I am a little confused on the bolded statement above. I am at DCOM now and we were able to get Stafford loans, even though our full accreditation won't be until we graduate in 2011 (standard operation for new schools). We are as fully accreditted as possible, but that final hurdle can't be jumped until the first class graduates. Those of you who attend RVU will have this same setup. I can't figure out why RVU is ineligible for government loans.

BTW, good luck to those of you who attend RVU next year. It is pretty cool being in the inaugural class. It is history in the making. You will find little hiccups along the way (nothing major for us here at DCOM so far), but that is too be expected. Good Luck

 

[mtn0417]

Howdy, is anyone picking this school over other D.O. schools. I was just accepted to AZCOM and am going to plan my interview to RVU. Personally I can't stand all that heat and think the idea of being the inagural class would have a lot of benefits (really get to know faculty). Plus I love the mountains/colorado and can easily see myself working there after. However, I am going to wait to interview until early dec. as I have an interview at my top choice, MCW (M.D.) next friday and should hear by then. If I don't get in and get into RVU, it would be a tough choice between RVU and AZCOM.

 

[PatriotsForever]

RVU is definitely in one of my favorite areas of the country.... Colorado! The no federal loan thing is terrible though. I'm not quite sure why RVU can't get them and all other new schools can including PNWU in Yakima. The "We can't offer federal aid until we are fully accredited" line sounds fishy to me....

 

[t-funk]

Sorry to bust into the thread, but I am a little confused on the bolded statement above. I am at DCOM now and we were able to get Stafford loans, even though our full accreditation won't be until we graduate in 2011 (standard operation for new schools). We are as fully accreditted as possible, but that final hurdle can't be jumped until the first class graduates. Those of you who attend RVU will have this same setup. I can't figure out why RVU is ineligible for government loans.

BTW, good luck to those of you who attend RVU next year. It is pretty cool being in the inaugural class. It is history in the making. You will find little hiccups along the way (nothing major for us here at DCOM so far), but that is too be expected. Good Luck

I think the explanation posted before on this board was that DCOM is associated with an already established university and RVU and PNUHS are not.

 

[MaximusD]

I actually think the answer has to do with the fact that some sort of regional board hasn't given accreditation to RVU. For some reason, RVU hasn't received these accreditations as of yet. I think that the AOA accreditation counts, but not until it is full.

I will go thread-hunting to see if I can dig something up... i remember reading something on here.

AND before you go saying "COCA granted them provisional.." yada yada I know the drill. A school gets provisional accreditation until they graduate their first class. That's not what I'm talking about --

This is the discussion I'm referring to: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=5550199&postcount=39

 

[Gene Genie]

DCOM is associated with a parent institution that has already been through the accreditation process and thus is eligible immediately for federal loans.

Colleges and Universities that are not affiliated with an already regionally accredited parent institution (in which case can be merged onto the parent institution's accreditation) must wait 2 years to apply for regional accreditation:

http://www.ncahlc.org/download/Overview07.pdf

Threads are not a good place to go looking for "correct" information - it seems to be a very subjective title for most "facts" found here. 😳

 

[t-funk]

Yeah, misinformation drives me bonkers!!! 😉

http://www.pnwu.org/s_services.shtml


Taken from the PNUHS website:

" The Pacific Northwest University - College of Osteopathic Medicine is a new college of osteopathic medicine within a new health sciences university. Our academic community provides a family atmosphere in a new state-of-the-art facility. The catalog provides detailed information regarding all requirements and admission standards. .....

PNWU is currently in the process of applying for Federal Title IV student loan eligibility. This application process may not be complete until after classes begin in August 2008. "