San Francisco Match
Started by EllaLaGustaLaMedacina
EDIT: corrected.
These are among the hardest specialties for DO students to match into.
These are among the hardest specialties for DO students to match into.
Any osteopathic students out there match in the San Francisco match for Ophthalmology/Plastic Surgery? Rough year this year for osteopathic ophthalmology all around
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How does the SF match work? Is it fall all ent and plastics or just those in Frisco?
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It's for ophthalmology. The plastics "residency" you see there is actually a plastics fellowship you do after general surgery. For med students, SF match = ophthalmology regardless of where you are.
It's earlier than the NRMP and NMS match.
Haha wow did I miss read the original post! Thanks.
Can't tell if sarcasm or ignorance?
As far as I know the San Francisco match is for ophthalmology residency programs and a large number of fellowships in different specialties. I don't know of any of my classmates that participated in the SF match.
Because the SF match has nothing to do with San Francisco...
LOL.
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Maybe if he got his ass off SDN, stopped worrying about how much he can gouge students with non-refundable 4 digit seat deposits, and learned a little more about graduate medical education he could perform the duties expected of a dean of a medical school with exorbitant tuition.
For a medical school.... If you're not a dean, which I certainly thought I've seen you claim, maybe you should rethink the manner in which you constantly give medical students advice. Seeing how you maybe aren't quite as informed as you seem to think.
Double check your reading skills. You'll need them for CME. I have never represented myself as a Dean.
And boo hoo....I'm ignorant about the SF match. The bigger picture is that the fields discussed are close to impossible for DOs to get into.
Applying Ignore function now. You'll feel a stinging sensation.
And boo hoo....I'm ignorant about the SF match. The bigger picture is that the fields discussed are close to impossible for DOs to get into.
Applying Ignore function now. You'll feel a stinging sensation.
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Then maybe you should be more selective with regards to which threads you weigh in on. As I've suggested before you constantly tend to overreach your very limited knowledge by inserting yourself in threads about residency. The most dangerous intern on the wards is one who doesn't know what they don't know.
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No one cares about your argument... stop and get back on topic...
Haven't heard much from my class, although I'm not really digging for info. Did hear of an AUA match, but not ophtho yet.
Haven't heard much from my class, although I'm not really digging for info. Did hear of an AUA match, but not ophtho yet.
DO in AUA match? That's pretty impressive. I think there are often no DOs that make it.
I think part of it is that they are too scared to try for the AUA match, since they are using their aways for AOA urology programs. Not taking away from the sheer difficulty of matching into an ACGME urology program.
EDIT: I also remember reading that you can get pulled from the AUA match if you match into an AOA program, even though the AUA match comes first. So that is also another part of it.
EDIT: I also remember reading that you can get pulled from the AUA match if you match into an AOA program, even though the AUA match comes first. So that is also another part of it.
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Wow if that's true that's so wrong. Deciding whether to forego the AOA match and put all your eggs into the NRMP match is bad enough.
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This was one of the threads
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/aua-vs-osteopathic-match.694677/
Hopefully in the near future the NRMP will represent all GME programs, which will even the playing field for DO students. I can't imagine applying to 3 matches (i.e. DO going into ophthalmology).
Not sure if this is related to the topic of this thread, but a PCOM student this past year matched into Plastic Surgery at Penn Med, a super competitive integrated 6-year residency program. Also, there were PCOM students who matched into Ophtha at Drexel and Pitts. So nothing is impossible guys!
About half of them are, uro is really on the ball with the merger.
Someone needs to slip jw3600 an e-xanax.
No offense taken. He is very knowledgeable about helping pre meds get into DO school. He should stick to that area based on his experiences and insight.
I wonder if there will be any traditional ones as well. It will be interesting to see how many MDs match formerly AOA uro programs, if any.
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Wasn't the AUA match like a week ago? Anyone know how well DOs did at the newly ACGME programs?
I think the one I heard about was at such a program (i.e. newly ACGME). Last year LECOM-B had an ACGME Uro match at USF I think, so even straight ACGME Uro has happened before (as opposed to formerly AOA/newly ACGME), but it was rare.
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Yeah there was a WVSOM student at VCU a few years ago as well. I think ACGME uro is more rare than ACGME ortho. Even on the MD side it's crazy competitive.
Is there any way to view the AUA match results? Obviously I'm interested to see the makeup of programs that are newly ACGME as I think it'll provide some insight into what we can expect down the pipeline.
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I gotta feeling that we will see a slight rise in the amount of people matching into "MD" residencies, because before they were pulled for the AOA match. However, if you are asking what programs have made the transition from AOA to ACGME, it should be there on the AOA residency website (there are 4 currently).
They don't differentiate DOs in the AUA or SF Match. They're just described as US seniors/medical graduates and are lumped with US MDs.
This was posted recently by the SF Match:
https://www.sfmatch.org/PDFFilesDisplay/Ophthalmology_Residency_Stats_2017.pdf
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https://www.sfmatch.org/PDFFilesDisplay/Ophthalmology_Residency_Stats_2017.pdf
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Christ. DOs were slaughtered.
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Yeah wow, and I was told Optho had less DO bias than the other surgical subs (comparatively).
To really break it down, we'd need data on average Step scores, research, aways, etc. It's hard to compare. But yeah, there's almost certainly some bias.
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Overall match rate of 22% for DO participants. Worse than IMGs. Yikes!
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I usually like to use participated and matched, not registered because I like to give credit to the smart ones who jumped ship when they saw the swells and squalls coming towards them.
26% man!!
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Gotta add the 4 who applied as graduates. Seniors and graduates are lumped together for IMGs. Just trying to compare apples to apples. Therefore 5/23 = 21.7%
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Hmm fair point.
NRMP, AUA, San Francisco... My Gosh!
this may sound as completely stupid but...
So you're telling me that for ophthalmology we do not use ERAS and use a completely different matching system?! Mind=blown.
So you're telling me that for ophthalmology we do not use ERAS and use a completely different matching system?! Mind=blown.
Yep! For ACGME that is.
Actually you do use ERAS simultaneously. Ophthalmology residency is PGY2-PGY4, and you have to do a preliminary PGY1 year in IM, surgery, or a transitional program. You have to participate in the NRMP match for this. SF match results come out early, so you can typically rank your preliminary year that's at your residency hospital high, if that's what you want or the program suggests.
So yeah, a DO applying to ophthalmology might have to fill out 3 applications. Some DO programs are closing, some have achieved initial accreditation. We'll see how long it takes for those to migrate to the SF match.
ERAS is the application service. SF, AUA, NRMP, NMS, those are all matching services. They are separate entities. While related in that they are involved in the applying and matching process, you have to register and set things up with them separately.
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