School Match Lists **Unofficial**

[bocciball]

Here is the unofficial self reported match list from KCOM. Program, location, and AOA/ACGME are included for most part.

Anesthesiology:

Doctors Hospital Columbus, OH AOA
McLaren-Oakland Pontiac, MI AOA
NERMC Kirksville, MO AOA
University of Arkansas Little Rock, AR ACGME
University of FL Shands-Jacksonville Jacksonville, FL ACGME
University of Wisconsin Madison, WI ACGME
University of Connecticut Farmington, CT ACGME
Cleveland Clinic Cleveland, OH ACGME
Heart of Lancaster Lititz, PA AOA
University of Oklahoma OKC, OK ACGME
Texas Tech University Lubbock,TX ACGME
St. Louis University St. Louis, Mo ACGME
Doctors Hospital Columbus, OH AOA


Emergency Medicine

Doctors Hospital Columbus, OH AOA
Lehigh Valley Medical Center Allentown, PA Dual
South Pointe Warrensville Heights, OH AOA
St Vincent Health Center Erie, PA AOA
St Vincent Health Center Erie, PA AOA
U of I / Chicago Chicago, IL ACGME
U of I / St. Francis Medical Center Peoria, IL ACGME
University of Iowa Iowa City, IA ACGME
Wake Forest North Carolina ACGME
U of I / St. Francis Medical Center Peoria, IL ACGME
JPS Ft Worth, Texas ACGME


ENT

NERMC Kirksville, MO AOA


Family Medicine

David Grant Medical Center Fairfield, CA USAF Military
Advocate Christ Chicago, IL Dual
Capital Region Medical Center Jefferson City, MO AOA
Cox Health Springfield, MO ACGME
Doctor's Hospital Columbus, OH AOA
Downey Regional Medical Center Downey, CA AOA
Ehrling Bergquist Medical Center Omaha, NE USAF Military
Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital Wyandotte, MI Dual
Metro Health Wyoming, MI AOA
Munson Traverse City, MI Dual
National Capital Consortium - Ft. Belvoir Hospital Fort Belvoir, VA USAF
NERMC Kv,MO AOA
Riverside Regional Medical Center Newport News, VA Dual
Sisters of Charity Hospital Buffalo, NY AOA
SIU Center for Family Med Springfield, IL Dual
SIU Memorial Hospital Carbondale, IL Dual
St Louis University/Belleville Belleville, IL ACGME
St. Anthony Medical Center Oklahoma City, OK Dual
St. Elizabeth Hospital/Scott AFB Belleville, IL USAF Military
St. Mary Corwin Pueblo, CO Dual
UMKC Kansas city, Mo Dual
University of Minnesota, Mankato Mankato, MN AOA
University of Wyoming Casper, WY Dual
Womack Army Medical Center Ft. Bragg, NC USAR Military
Adventist Hinsdale Hospital Chicago, IL Dual
Broadlawns Family Medicine Des Moines, IA ACGME
Lincoln Family Medicine Lincoln, NE ACGME
San Jacinto Methodist Baytown, TX ACGME
Community Hospitals Indianapolis, IN ACGME
University of Arkansas Little Rock, AR ACGME
Aurora St. Luke's Milwaukee, WI ACGME
Banner Good Samaritan Phoenix, AZ ACGME
Rapid City Regional Hospital Rapid City, SD ACGME
Lincoln Family Medicine Lincoln, NE ACGME
Rapid City Regional Hospital Rapid City, SD ACGME


General Surgery

Affinity Medical Center Massillon, OH AOA
Creighton University Omaha, NE ACGME
Des Peres Hospital St. Louis, MO AOA
Oakwood southshore Trenton , Mi AOA
Genesys Regional Med. Ctr. Grand Blanc, MI AOA


Internal Medicine

Mclaren Lansing Lansing, MI AOA
San Antonio Military Medical Center San Antonio, TX US Air Force
TCOM/Bay Area Medical Center Corpus Christi, TX AOA
The Reading Hospital Reading, PA Dual
William Beaumont Army Medical Center El Paso, TX US Army
William Beaumont Army Medical Center El Paso, TX US Army
William Beaumont Army Medical Center El Paso, TX US Army
Ball State University Muncie, Indiana ACGME
Cleveland Clinic Cleveland, OH ACGME
Mercy St. Louis St. Louis, MO ACGME
Mercy St. Louis St. Louis, MO ACGME
Mercy St. Louis St. Louis, MO ACGME
St. John Macomb/Oakland Warren, MI Dual
University of Kentucky Lexington, KY ACGME
University of Missouri Columbia MO ACGME
St. Mary's Health Center St. Louis, MO ACGME
Baptist Health System Birmingham, AL ACGME
Indiana University Indianapolis IN ACGME


NMM

NERMC Kirksville, MO AOA


OB/GYN

Naval Medical Center San Diego San Diego, CA USN Military
Rebecca McClure University Kirksville, MO AOA
San Antonio Military Medical Center San Antonio, Texas USAF Military
University of Kansas Wichita, KS ACGME
Walter Reed NMMC Bethesda, MD US Army
Southern Illinois University-Springfield Springfield, IL ACGME


Ophthalmology

St John Providence Detroit, MI AOA
University of Missouri Columbia, MO ACGME


Orthopedic Surgery

Mclaren Macomb Mt Clemens, MI AOA
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth Portsmouth, VA USN Military
St. James Hospital Chicago Heights, IL AOA
Des Peres Hospital St. Louis, MO AOA
Grandview Medical Center Dayton, OH AOA


Pediatrics

Bronson Hospital Kalamazoo, MI ACGME
Maimonides Medical Center Brooklyn, NY Dual
Penn State Hershey, PA ACGME
Portsmouth Naval Medical Center Portsmouth, VA USAF Military
Sparrow Hospital/MSU Lansing, MI Dual
University of Nebraska/Creighton Joint Omaha, NE ACGME
UNM Albuquerque ACGME
MCW/Children's Hospital of Wisconsin Milwaukee, WI ACGME
University of Toledo Toledo, Oh ACGME
U of I / St. Francis Medical Center Peoria, IL ACGME
Tripler Army Medical Center Honolulu, HI ACGME/Military


Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation

University of Missouri Columbia, MO ACGME
Indiana University Indianapolis IN ACGME


Psychiatry

ETSU Johnson City, TN ACGME
Texas A&M - Scott & White Temple, Texas ACGME
WSU Dayton, OH USAF Military


Radiology

Allegheny General Hospital Pittsburgh, PA ACGME
San Antonio Military Medical Center San Antonio, Tx US Army
St. James Hospital Chicago Heights, IL AOA
University of Arkansas Little Rock, AR ACGME

Transitional Year

Berkshire Health Systems Pittsfield, MA AOA
Botsford Hospital Farmington Hills,MI AOA
LewisGale Hospital- Montgomery Blacksburg, VA AOA
Portsmouth Naval Medical Center Portsmouth, VA Military
San Antonio Military Medical Center San Antonio, Texas USAF Military
St Petersburg General Hospital St Petersburg, FL AOA
St Petersburg General Hospital St Petersburg, FL AOA


Urology

San Antonio Military Medical Center San Antonio, Texas US Army

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[st2205]

It's too bad there are still 40-50 people in the class who haven't reported.

 

[Prncssbuttercup]

RVU... Gas at Mayo and GWU in DC, UCO spots... and several ROAD matches (except Derm)

2013 MATCH RESULTS BY DISCIPLINE, NUMBER MATCHED AND RESIDENCY LOCATION


DISCIPLINE


MATCHED


RESIDENCY LOCATION

ANESTHESIOLOGY


13



Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, TX


George Washington Univ-DC


U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor


U Kansas SOM-Kansas City


Riverside County Regional, Moreno Valley, CA


McLaren-Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI


Med Coli Wisconsin Affil Hosps


Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN


B I Deaconess Med Ctr-MA


U Iowa Hosps and Clinics


U Colorado SOM-Denver


University Hosps-Jackson-MS


U Colorado SOM-Denver


EMERGENCY MEDICINE


18



St. Barnabas Hospital, Bronx, NY


Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI


Southwest Medical Center, Oklahoma City, OK


LECOM/UPMCE Hamot, Erie, PA


St. Barnabas Hospital, Bronx, NY


Oklahoma State University Medical Center, Tulsa, OK


LECOM/UPMCE Hamot, Erie, PA


Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI


Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital, Wyandotte, MI


St. John Providence Health System, Warren, MI


UMDNJSOM/South Jersey Healthcare, Vineland, NJ


U Kentucky Med Ctr


Central Michigan University COM


U Kentucky Med Ctr


Baystate Med Ctr-MA


Christus Spohn Mem Hosp-TX


Morristown Mem Hosp-NJ


Indiana Univ Sch Of Med


FAMILY MEDICINE


28



Oregon Health & Science Univ


U Colorado SOM-Denver


North Colorado Med Ctr


U Kansas SOM-Wichita


Valley Hospital Medical Center, Las Vegas, NV



Blessing Health System, Quincy, IL


Detroit Wayne County Health, Detroit, MI


Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI


Sierra Vista Regional Health, Sierra Vista, AZ


Riverside Regional Medical Center, Newport News, VA


Lakeside Medical Center, Belle Glade, FL


Maine-Dartmouth FM Residency, Augusta, ME


Maine-Dartmouth FM Residency, Augusta, ME


Naval Hospital Camp Lejeune, Camp Lejeune, NC


Largo Medical Center, Largo, FL


Darnall Army Medical Center, Ft. Hood, TX


Nellis Air Force Base, Las Vegas, NV


Naval Hospital Camp Lejeune, Camp Lejeune, NC


St Anthony North Hosp-CO


Central Maine Med Ctr


Aurora St Lukes Medical Ctr-WI


Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL


Alaska Family Med/Providence Hosp


North Colorado Med Ctr


North Colorado Med Ctr


Ft Collins Fam Med-CO


Marshall University SOM-WV


GENERAL SURGERY


14



Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA


Travis Air Force Base/UC Davis Medical Center, Travis AF Base, CA


Wycoff Heights Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY


Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH


Tripler Army Medical Center, Honolulu, HI


Keesler Air Force Base, Biloxi, MS


Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH


Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA


Mercy Medical Center, Des Moines, IA


William Beaumont Army Medical Hospital, El Paso, TX


South Pointe Hospital, Warrensville Heights, OH


Good Samaritan Hosp-Cinn-OH


University of MaryLand


Oregon Health & Science Univ



ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY


5



Texas Tech U Affii-Lubbock


Summa Western Reserve Hospital, Cuyahoga Falls, OH


Plainview Hospital, Plainview, NY


Plainview Hospital, Plainview, NY


St. Mary's Hospital Blue Springs, Blue Springs, MO


INTERNAL MEDICINE


18



Sky Ridge Medical Center, Parker, CO


Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO


Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA


Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO


Grandview Hospital & Medical Center, Dayton, OH


Sky Ridge Medical Center, Parker, CO


Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO


Sky Ridge Medical Center, Parker, CO


Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO


Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO


Danville Regional Medical Center, Danville, VA


Swedish Covenant Hospital, Chicago, IL


Sky Ridge Medical Center, Parker, CO


Northside Hospital & Heart Institute, St. Petersberg, FL


Genesys Regional Medical-Health Park, Grand Blanc, MI


Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO


San Antonio Uniformed Services Health Education Consortium


Texas A&M-Scott & White


INTERNAL MEDICINE/EMERGENCY MEDICINE


1



Aria Health Systems, Philadelphia, PA


OBSTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY


10



Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, Bethesda, MD


McLaren-Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI


Henry Ford Macomb Hospitals, Clinton Township, MI


St. John Providence Health System, Warren, MI


Mercy Health Partners, Muskegon, MI


St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland, Pontiac, MI


Good Samaritan Hospital, West Islip, NY


South Jersey Healthcare, Vineland, NJ


Baylor Coli Med-Houston-TX


University of Toledo-OH


OPTHALMOLOGY


1



Henry Ford Hospital - Wayne State University, Detroit, MI



PEDIATRICS


8



(Civilian Deferred)/ OMECO Teaching Health Center, Tulsa, OK


Madigan Army Medical Hospital, Fort Lewis, WA


Doctors Hospital, Columbus OH


U Nebraska Affil Hosps


Madigan Army Medical Hospital, Fort Lewis, WA


Orlando Health-FL


University of Hawaii


U Texas Southwestern Med Sch-Dallas


PATHOLOGY


2



San Antonio Uniformed Services Health Education Consortium


U New Mexico SOM



PHYSICAL MEDICINE & REHABILITATION


2



Med Coli Wisconsin AffilHosps


Barnes-Jewish Hosp-MO


PSYCHIATRY


5



Erie, PA


U Texas HSC-San Antonio


U Arizona COM at South Campus


University of Hawaii


U Utah Affil Hospitals


RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC


3



U South Florida COM-Tampa


Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA


U Kansas SOM-Wichita


RADIOLOGY


1



McLaren-Oakland, Pontiac, MI


RADIOLOGY-ONCOLOGY


1



Baylor Coli Med-Houston-TX



TRADITIONAL ROTATING INTERNSHIP


6



Lankenau Medical Center, Wynnewood, PA


Samaritian Regional Medical Center, Corvallis, OR


Palisades Medical Center, N. Bergen, NJ


St. Anthony Hospital, Oklahoma City, OK


LECOM/Arnot Elmira, NY


Madigan Army Medical Hospital, Fort Lewis, WA


Genesys Regional Medical-Health Park, Grand Blanc, MI

 

[DrBumblebee]

Now, that's a great match list. Congrats RVU.

 

[DrBowtie]

Now, that's a great match list. Congrats RVU.

Tell me more about your analysis MS-0.

 

[ArtemisGordon]

RVU had some impressive matches into the competitive specialties, but that Internal Medicine list is terrible.

 

[Colodostudent]

RVU had some impressive matches into the competitive specialties, but that Internal Medicine list is terrible.

Really, so here we go again, with the so called experts, slamming RVU. Lets put this in perspective. One to two years ago, RVUCOM was being slammed over the development of new residency programs in Colorado. A new IM program was developed at Skyridge (30 slots approved, 10 per year). They are just starting this year with 10 slots

Also, a new IM program was started at Pueblo, two years ago, again, 30 slots / 10/year in Colorado. All new programs in Colorado.

These now afford folks in Colorado students a chance to stay in Colorado for IM. No real growth here on the MD side for those who want to stay>

And here comes our "Artemis" expert. These are new programs, so Artemis, you have NOTHING to base your comment about the list being "terrible".

Please let us know, whats terrible about them. Oh, they are DO! Maybe you just don't like DO programs? Is that it? Please bless us with your expert insight as to what programs are good or bad? Oh, and where is your schools listing? Which school?

Certainly all schools know there match results by now. Your the expert. Show us the way, oh most enlightened one!

New programs are just that, new! For you to say terrible, is pure nonsense (yea, I could of use another word there).

 

[DocEspana]

Now, that's a great match list. Congrats RVU.

Its a list of haves and have nots. They "haves" some pretty good aoa results. They "have nots" done well at all in the acgme match two years running now (though even I admit I went "what the..." when I read the ortho list. Bravo.)

And no. Being new makes no difference. Or at least, doesn't explain the deficiencies at all. Look at other schools in their 1st through 3rd graduating class (so within one year of rvu either way). Acgme matching difficulty for new schools isn't an issue anyone else is having.

Now. Before everyone jumps down my throat. Look st the whole list regardless of affiliation, and you go "well that is a lot of people in good fields". So I applaud that. The list, if blibd to what match came from where, is pretty good (has some weaknesses but also lots of high points). But the interesting part of rvu wasn't "would they match anywhere". We all know qualified people get jobs. The interesting thing to watch is the acgmes reaction to them. That reaction has proven interesting two years in a row.

To artificially parse out only acgme results as relevant is to disrespect the great positions yo be had in the aoa. For that I apologize. But the only thing relevant about rvu outside of Colorado is the interface of for profit medicine grads who do seem highly qualified and a large education system that (at least nominally) objects to their business model. Its interesting to see if qualifications or principles wins in the ranking process.

 

[DrBumblebee]

Its a list of haves and have nots. They "haves" some pretty good aoa results. They "have nots" done well at all in the acgme match two years running now (though even I admit I went "what the..." when I read the ortho list. Bravo.)

And no. Being new makes no difference. Or at least, doesn't explain the deficiencies at all. Look at other schools in their 1st through 3rd graduating class (so within one year of rvu either way). Acgme matching difficulty for new schools isn't an issue anyone else is having.

Now. Before everyone jumps down my throat. Look st the whole list regardless of affiliation, and you go "well that is a lot of people in good fields". So I applaud that. The list, if blibd to what match came from where, is pretty good (has some weaknesses but also lots of high points). But the interesting part of rvu wasn't "would they match anywhere". We all know qualified people get jobs. The interesting thing to watch is the acgmes reaction to them. That reaction has proven interesting two years in a row.

To artificially parse out only acgme results as relevant is to disrespect the great positions yo be had in the aoa. For that I apologize. But the only thing relevant about rvu outside of Colorado is the interface of for profit medicine grads who do seem highly qualified and a large education system that (at least nominally) objects to their business model. Its interesting to see if qualifications or principles wins in the ranking process.

Anesthesiology ... 13
Emergency Medicine ... 18
General Surgery ... 14
Orthopedic Surgery ... 5
Internal Medicine ... 18
Obstetrics/Gynecology ... 10
Opthalmology ... 1
Radiology-Diagnostic ... 3
Radiology-Oncology ... 1

... and, still they "have nots" done well?

 

[DrBumblebee]

Tell me more about your analysis MS-0.

No need for any analysis dear resident. Results speak themselves. Only, should you read.

And, what's that hatred against RVU? Any hard feelings?

 

[DrBowtie]

Anesthesiology ... 13
Emergency Medicine ... 18
General Surgery ... 14
Orthopedic Surgery ... 5
Internal Medicine ... 18
Obstetrics/Gynecology ... 10
Opthalmology ... 1
Radiology-Diagnostic ... 3
Radiology-Oncology ... 1

... and, still they "have nots" done well?

No need for any analysis dear resident. Results speak themselves. Only, should you read.
And, what's that hatred against RVU? Any hard feelings?

Nominal numbers in specialties are what pre-meds look at. Where these matches occur are what medical students and residents look at. There are some good impressive individual matches. I'd say the top 5-7 ACGME matches were places that good MD candidates would be shooting for, the rest not so much.

 

[DocEspana]

Nominal numbers in specialties are what pre-meds look at. Where these matches occur are what medical students and residents look at. There are some good impressive individual matches. I'd say the top 5-7 ACGME matches were places that good MD candidates would be shooting for, the rest not so much.

there is a subtlety of analysis that I am glad the above poster articulated

 

[DocEspana]

Anesthesiology ... 13
Emergency Medicine ... 18
General Surgery ... 14
Orthopedic Surgery ... 5
Internal Medicine ... 18
Obstetrics/Gynecology ... 10
Opthalmology ... 1
Radiology-Diagnostic ... 3
Radiology-Oncology ... 1

... and, still they "have nots" done well?

you are aware all of those numbers include military and AOA matches, two things that no one has ever criticized school for. comments are made about the ACGME-specific performance and your defense is listing out numbers that are overwhelmingly not from the ACGME match? color me confused.

and then additionally, as was said above, jUST listing out rote numbers without any analysis of where is rather silly, and reductionist, and frankly misses the point.

 

[DrBumblebee]

you are aware all of those numbers include military and AOA matches, two things that no one has ever criticized school for. comments are made about the ACGME-specific performance and your defense is listing out numbers that are overwhelmingly not from the ACGME match? color me confused.

and then additionally, as was said above, jUST listing out rote numbers without any analysis of where is rather silly, and reductionist, and frankly misses the point.

We're not comparing how many Yale/Harvard matches RVU has had with those of the other DO schools in 2013 match. RVU is a DO school, not something like Johns Hopkins.

RVU has been named as "the bottom of the bottom" DO school on SDN, whose graduates were said to be denied to get a residency even at AOA match due to that it's a for-profit medical school and PDs don't like for-profit medical schools... Turned out as wrong!..

They have a good number of specialty matches, AOA or ACGME, including surgery, orthopaedic surgery, radiology. I'd call it a success, why not? (Just FYI: I was rejected by RVU very early in this application cycle in just two days after I sent my secondary, without any explanation, although I got multiple acceptances from more established DO schools. So, I'm not defending my medical school here.)

IMHO, they've achieved something better than many have expected from them, although there's a solid bias against them, which has been intentionally spread over on SDN for a while now.

 

[DrBumblebee]

Nominal numbers in specialties are what pre-meds look at.

I admit that you're right in that. We think about the possibilities, higher numbers are better; i.e., who cares AOA or ACGME if he/she was matched to orthopaedic surgery?

Where these matches occur are what medical students and residents look at. There are some good impressive individual matches. I'd say the top 5-7 ACGME matches were places that good MD candidates would be shooting for, the rest not so much.

This has the credit to give to RVU. IMHO, they did well. Peace.

 

[DrBowtie]

I admit that you're right in that. We think about the possibilities, higher numbers are better; i.e., who cares AOA or ACGME if he/she was matched to orthopaedic surgery?



This has the credit to give to RVU. IMHO, they did well. Peace.

I think you're misinterpreting. The studs of all classes will match at good places. This is independent of school. The real test of a match list is looking at the middle of the road matches for the average applicant.

Secondly, 5-7 good matches for a class of ~129-135. I wouldn't say it was a glowing review by me.

 

[DocEspana]

We're not comparing how many Yale/Harvard matches RVU has had with those of the other DO schools in 2013 match. RVU is a DO school, not something like Johns Hopkins.

RVU has been named as "the bottom of the bottom" DO school on SDN

I'm going to stop you right there. I have time and time again challenged anyone to show me where that has ever been said. So far the only places we've ever been able to see that comment made are by RVU students themselves claiming others have said it. I would not be shocked if some people with 1 or 2 post count historis had said it, but even that can't be shown. It appears to solely be a Hobgoblin repeated over and over again by RVU students, and those sympathetic, in order to say "we don't have to account for our acgme weakness because everyone said we were the worst and we proved that wrong so just focus on that." which works fantastic, assuming someone ever said that about the school. It seems it's just a series of people referencing other people, who reference other people, who claim some nebulous unidentified "people" said it. just because it's repeated ad nauseum without a citation on SDN does not make it true. This even applies to claims about things said on SDN.

you are welcome to try to find the original comments that many others have tried to find aand failed. until you can show that somehow people didn't believe that the AOA match should be totally fine, RVU has to answer for, or at least have an honest discussion about, what the hell is going on with their ACGME match. because it does have serious deficiencies 2 years in a row. and I'm comparing them to other DO schools, and I'm comparing them to other new DO schools, and there is a significant deficiency. The deficiency is more pronounced by the fact that their AOA match is totally fine. They clearly have great students, because the AOA and military are snatching them up. Why is the ACGME not doing the same, not even close to doing the same?

And does the above commentary have additional importance with the merger on the horizon?

 

[DrBumblebee]

I'm going to stop you right there. I have time and time again challenged anyone to show me where that has ever been said. So far the only places we've ever been able to see that comment made are by RVU students themselves claiming others have said it. I would not be shocked if some people with 1 or 2 post count historis had said it, but even that can't be shown. It appears to solely be a Hobgoblin repeated over and over again by RVU students, and those sympathetic, in order to say "we don't have to account for our acgme weakness because everyone said we were the worst and we proved that wrong so just focus on that." which works fantastic, assuming someone ever said that about the school. It seems it's just a series of people referencing other people, who reference other people, who claim some nebulous unidentified "people" said it. just because it's repeated ad nauseum without a citation on SDN does not make it true. This even applies to claims about things said on SDN.

you are welcome to try to find the original comments that many others have tried to find aand failed. until you can show that somehow people didn't believe that the AOA match should be totally fine, RVU has to answer for, or at least have an honest discussion about, what the hell is going on with their ACGME match. because it does have serious deficiencies 2 years in a row. and I'm comparing them to other DO schools, and I'm comparing them to other new DO schools, and there is a significant deficiency. The deficiency is more pronounced by the fact that their AOA match is totally fine. They clearly have great students, because the AOA and military are snatching them up. Why is the ACGME not doing the same, not even close to doing the same?

And does the above commentary have additional importance with the merger on the horizon?

lol'ed on your comments about SDN's referential integrity issues. Yes, most of the time they're coming from those students who said that they're at RVU. Jokes on them...

But, honestly, now I see what you're talking about. You're basically saying that RVU's ACGME match list (not AOA or army) isn't looking so great, from an MS-4's point of view. You maybe definitely right, because I haven't gone through any matches; I'll just start at med school in this summer.

Besides, it's RVU's own students lurking on SDN to comment on their match list, and maybe along with a good analysis, not me. I won't be studying there, at all.

 

[DrBumblebee]

...
And does the above commentary have additional importance with the merger on the horizon?

Let me paraphrase your question: if ACGME takes over everything from AOA, will RVU doom due to its weak ACGME match?

Now, spit it, DocEspana. What have you recently heard about the merger?

 

[abolt18]

Let me paraphrase your question: if ACGME takes over everything from AOA, will RVU doom due to its weak ACGME match?

Now, spit it, DocEspana. What have you recently heard about the merger?

I thought you were leaving this thread?

P.S. he has said nothing about the merger.

 

[DocEspana]

I thought you were leaving this thread?

P.S. he has said nothing about the merger.

I did just watch mister Crosby's speech. It is really not telling of much, but a few of his comments suggest a time line has not been changed... Though the time line is not set in stone as we were once led to believe. Specifically he commented on it being 2 to 5 years away from implementation. This fits with the timelines suggesting 2015 and 2018 are major dates for different portions of the merge. But his exact wording does appear to leave it open for significant delays at multiple points in the process.

as for bumble bees analysis, or paraphrasing: the spirit is right, but I think youre phrasing it a little more aggressively than I would.

 

[Hexodus]

Interesting list.....

 

[ArtemisGordon]

Really, so here we go again, with the so called experts, slamming RVU. Lets put this in perspective. One to two years ago, RVUCOM was being slammed over the development of new residency programs in Colorado. A new IM program was developed at Skyridge (30 slots approved, 10 per year). They are just starting this year with 10 slots

Also, a new IM program was started at Pueblo, two years ago, again, 30 slots / 10/year in Colorado. All new programs in Colorado.

These now afford folks in Colorado students a chance to stay in Colorado for IM. No real growth here on the MD side for those who want to stay>

And here comes our "Artemis" expert. These are new programs, so Artemis, you have NOTHING to base your comment about the list being "terrible".

Please let us know, whats terrible about them. Oh, they are DO! Maybe you just don't like DO programs? Is that it? Please bless us with your expert insight as to what programs are good or bad? Oh, and where is your schools listing? Which school?

Certainly all schools know there match results by now. Your the expert. Show us the way, oh most enlightened one!

New programs are just that, new! For you to say terrible, is pure nonsense (yea, I could of use another word there).

Yawn. Your (note: not "you're") immature act on SDN gets so old. Lay off the ad hominems. If you're (note: not "your") going to write an incoherent, rambling reply, you could have (note: not "could of") at least used spell check before making all of our eyes bleed.

There is one....ONE university ACGME program on that list. Now, if all the IM applicants at RVU wanted to go to a small AOA community program in Colorado, then that's fine. I'm not concerned about the AOA sites, because if those grads wanted to practice osteopathic IM then that's the path they should be taking. Getting your top choice is the important thing in the residency match. But I have a hard time believing that, in a class where most students were clearly reaching for the best ACGME residency programs, just one person wanted to go to an academic IM program with fellowships. Did anyone not want to go into cardiology, GI, heme/onc, etc.? You know, the career paths that are best obtained through a reputable academic program? I just can't believe that only one person went the ACGME non-military route for IM.

What makes me an expert? Well, I did match into a well-regarded university ACGME program after doing heavy research on programs nationwide, so I might have a little more knowledge than an OMS-I/II who should be spending more time studying for boards than on this website.

I sincerely hope that the RVU-associated AOA programs become great training sites. The state is in bad need of more primary care programs and is not doing enough to expand.

 

[BrakngLyv]

RVUs Anesthesia ACGME list is impressive.

 

[Colbert]

Listen, you can disagree with RVU's tuition policy or whatever else you want, but in the end, results speak for themselves. Those kids went out there and put out a much better list than a lot of other osteopathic schools.

BALL DON'T LIE.

 

[koojo]

Just say, "good job" and move on..

 

[docnotsopc]

Tell me more about your analysis MS-0.

hahahhahahaha

 

[Charlie Hustle]

just say, "good job" and move on..

+1

 

[Textbookversion]

Baylor Rad Onc took another DO huh. Must have been happy with their previous one.

 

[Prncssbuttercup]

I'd like some explanations on these facts:

1. RVU has the highest number of military students outside the USUHS, they HAVE to match to military residencies unless they don't match, then they can go civilian, so why knock people for military matches?

2. RVU has a strong emphasis on OMM/OPP/OMT, and many people CHOOSE to go to DO programs for FM/IM, which you guys consider "bad", but it was their choice, and frequently 1st or 2nd choices, why is that bad? People matched to their #1 or #2 spot, isn't THAT is how the list should be evaluated?

3. University of CO supposedly hates RVU, but took several students, if we're so horrible why did a very competitive residency hospital/school take so many RVU students?

4. If RVU is so terrible, why do WE have a match at Mayo, in anesthesia?? Jealous maybe?

5. If RVU is so terrible, where are the side x side comparisons of other match lists? I only see two on here, KCOM and RVU...

 

[james2333]

I'd like some explanations on these facts:

1. RVU has the highest number of military students outside the USUHS, they HAVE to match to military residencies unless they don't match, then they can go civilian, so why knock people for military matches?

2. RVU has a strong emphasis on OMM/OPP/OMT, and many people CHOOSE to go to DO programs for FM/IM, which you guys consider "bad", but it was their choice, and frequently 1st or 2nd choices, why is that bad? People matched to their #1 or #2 spot, isn't THAT is how the list should be evaluated?

3. University of CO supposedly hates RVU, but took several students, if we're so horrible why did a very competitive residency hospital/school take so many RVU students?

4. If RVU is so terrible, why do WE have a match at Mayo, in anesthesia?? Jealous maybe?

5. If RVU is so terrible, where are the side x side comparisons of other match lists? I only see two on here, KCOM and RVU...

Geez there are so many RVU students defending themselves on these forums.

Listen...I think you guys are blowing things out of proportion. Much of what has been said by the RVU students has not really been said by responders on these forums. You guys are taking what people are saying and making it sound like everyone hates RVU just for the sake of it. All new schools have their problems. RVU happens to be a for-profit school and everyone who accepted their invitations knows this.

FACT: RVU is a profit organization, the only med-school in the US that is. The reason why this has such a bad reputation is because there are many outside schools (IE Caribbean schools) that pump out students and accept students that are clearly "not up to standards" just to make as much money as they can. This may not be the case with your school and it probably isn't, but this is why the stigma exists. Allopathic institutions have banned "for-profit" schools and since RVU is the first of its kind, it will be criticized. You knew this fact so accept it.

Is the match list impressive, thats obviously depends on what type of person is looking at your match list. Yes you have some students that have matched well but so do all schools. The top students at every institution will always match well. Its always best to look at the middle 50%. That is why people are saying RVU's match is so-so.

Listen...you guys need to relax. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You guys obviously have a chip on your shoulders and feel the need to defend yourselves. Just let the data speak for itself, if someone isn't impressed by it, who the hell cares. Obviously you guys are pleased so isnt that all that matters.

Also please don't make silly arguments like we had a person match at Mayo Anesthesia or Baylor Rad Onc. Its been done before by many other DO schools and some schools have a higher percentage of competitively matches. Every school has rockstar applicants at the top and they will obviously match well. These are the people that rocked their USMLE's and did well in school. There are not that many and each school has their own students that do this.

The reason why most other schools haven't sent out their data is because they're still waiting for all students to respond. Some schools wait a few weeks to release the data to everyone else and NOT Everyone is sitting at their computer on these forums.

 

[DrBumblebee]

I thought you were leaving this thread?

P.S. he has said nothing about the merger.

Why u upset, bro?

Read his comment below.

...
as for bumble bees analysis, or paraphrasing: the spirit is right, but I think youre phrasing it a little more aggressively than I would.

 

[DrBumblebee]

...
as for bumble bees analysis, or paraphrasing: the spirit is right, but I think youre phrasing it a little more aggressively than I would.

It's because I'm not that involved in healthcare politics as much as you've been... yet. And, it's still a paraphrase of your own sentence.

 

[WaylonS]

4. If RVU is so terrible, why do WE have a match at Mayo, in anesthesia?? Jealous maybe?

This is a perfect example of how people don't know how to read match lists (no offense). Matching at Mayo is not necessarily that difficult, particularly in less desirable specialties. That being said, there are a few good matches, suh as the Michigan gas and the ACGME RadOnc spot.

 

[Makati2008]

This is a perfect example of how people don't know how to read match lists (no offense). Matching at Mayo is not necessarily that difficult, particularly in less desirable specialties. That being said, there are a few good matches, suh as the Michigan gas and the ACGME RadOnc spot.

Agree with you. Look at some of the post in the FM forum to see what type of person you are dealing with mentality wise.

 

[Prncssbuttercup]

Agree with you. Look at some of the post in the FM forum to see what type of person you are dealing with mentality wise.

And what's your point? You seem to know my mentality soooo well... ROAD? A=anesthesia... and anything at Mayo is competitive. I think all of you blow RVU's FP status out of proportion on a regular basis, so do we need to defend our choice? Generally yes. Will that change over time, possibly, but there will always be haters, and regardless of our match list you will say it sucks...

 

[username456789]

Saying that RVU's allopathic match list is good because one person matched to anesthesiology at Mayo is like saying Grenada is an Olympic powerhouse because they had a 400m runner win the 2012 Olympics.

Is the concept of outliers not taught in basic math/statistics anymore? Or does RVU just not require any math prerequisites?

 

[JW08]

Saying that RVU's allopathic match list is good because one person matched to anesthesiology at Mayo is like saying Grenada is an Olympic powerhouse because they had a 400m runner win the 2012 Olympics.

Is the concept of outliers not taught in basic math/statistics anymore? Or does RVU just not require any math prerequisites?

Guys, can we all please get along and congratulate RVU'ers for their accomplishments.
There are few good & very good ACGME matches at RVU, so I guess it doesn't matter where you go to school and as long as you work hard you will be successful.

 

[abolt18]

Well the first 3 posts in this thread were good...

 

[username456789]

Guys, can we all please get along and congratulate RVU'ers for their accomplishments.
There are few good & very good ACGME matches at RVU, so I guess it doesn't matter where you go to school and as long as you work hard you will be successful.

Man, that's exactly the kind of sunshine garbage that doesn't need to be thrust down everyone's throat. Telling people that as long as they work hard they will be successful, despite going to a school that may indeed severely handicapped their potential career choices is doing them a great disservice.

You don't think everyone at that school work hard? Nobody enters medical school expecting that they won't work hard. The problem is that to graduate at the top of your class in medical school, many different stars have to align themselves just the right way. It's fun to be all starry eyed and optimistic, but at some point people need to actually be realistic. The sooner they start to view things from a realistic perspective, rather than a blind optimistic perspective, the sooner they will be able to make smarter career choices.

 

[Makati2008]

And what's your point? You seem to know my mentality soooo well... ROAD? A=anesthesia... and anything at Mayo is competitive. I think all of you blow RVU's FP status out of proportion on a regular basis, so do we need to defend our choice? Generally yes. Will that change over time, possibly, but there will always be haters, and regardless of our match list you will say it sucks...

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[rc4ch]

How about enough RVU and more match lists. This is the match list thread, not argue about RVU. Geez.

 

[Ost3oclast]

How about enough RVU and more match lists. This is the match list thread, not argue about RVU. Geez.

Yes.

 

[NurWollen]

How about enough RVU and more match lists. This is the match list thread, not argue about RVU. Geez.

Agreed 100%. There are about 15,000 other threads where you can argue about RVU.

 

[Dmr6186]

So continuing the thread. Anything for Nova? Anyone know when they release their lists if it's not out yet?

 

[selttiks288]

So continuing the thread. Anything for Nova? Anyone know when they release their lists if it's not out yet?

Very interested in NSU too.

 

[Makati2008]

Lmu dcom?

 

[DrBumblebee]

How about enough RVU and more match lists. This is the match list thread, not argue about RVU. Geez.

+1

Now, if you know, please tell us the match lists of PCOM... and maybe those of GA-PCOM, too.

 

[Prncssbuttercup]

Saying that RVU's allopathic match list is good because one person matched to anesthesiology at Mayo is like saying Grenada is an Olympic powerhouse because they had a 400m runner win the 2012 Olympics.

Is the concept of outliers not taught in basic math/statistics anymore? Or does RVU just not require any math prerequisites?

Because according to people like you it is IMPOSSIBLE to match into a competitive place at RVU. That's why.

 

[Textbookversion]

Because according to people like you it is IMPOSSIBLE to match into a competitive place at RVU. That's why.

So much short man syndrome from RVU.