Schools Closing Due To MRSA

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301583,00.html

Just goes to show what happens when you combine ignorance with liability. I'd close a school for ebola but MRSA? And the idea of trying to disinfect a school is just futile. I'll betcha all the parents who are demanding that the school do "something" about that darn resistent bacteria are the same ones who demand antibiotics for every virus.
 
"Many of the infections are being spread in gyms and locker rooms, where athletes — perhaps suffering from cuts or abrasions — share sports equipment."


You know...if they would up some funding for public education, these poor kidz wouldn't have to share equipment. Our local HS football team only has 10 cups for 30 guys. The quaterback doesn't get one. They are ten years old and get washed on Thursdays for the game. So so sad.
 
"Many of the infections are being spread in gyms and locker rooms, where athletes — perhaps suffering from cuts or abrasions — share sports equipment."


You know...if they would up some funding for public education, these poor kidz wouldn't have to share equipment. Our local HS football team only has 10 cups for 30 guys. The quaterback doesn't get one. They are ten years old and get washed on Thursdays for the game. So so sad.

Unless you think buying each kid an independent shower, bench press, football, etc... I don't think that more money will stop MRSA.
 
No, we should do just the opposite and end up with faster children who can outrun the bacteria!
 
Oh my guys.. Stoopid iz azz stoopid duz
 
"Many of the infections are being spread in gyms and locker rooms, where athletes — perhaps suffering from cuts or abrasions — share sports equipment."


You know...if they would up some funding for public education, these poor kidz wouldn't have to share equipment. Our local HS football team only has 10 cups for 30 guys. The quaterback doesn't get one. They are ten years old and get washed on Thursdays for the game. So so sad.
That's nothing. Funding got cut so deep when I was in high school that we only had enough cups for either offense or defense. When the offense would come out we'd have to hand off the cups at the sideline which is damn undignified. Once I accidentally got a receiver's cup and with me being a lineman, well, it was so tight I almost lost my nads. Then I got the clap and I'm pretty sure it started out with the quarterback's girlfriend. Anyway, it was tough. We couldn't afford weights so we had to lift freshmen for workouts. And there was definitely no money to wash the cups or the freshmen.
 
That's nothing. Funding got cut so deep when I was in high school that we only had enough cups for either offense or defense. When the offense would come out we'd have to hand off the cups at the sideline which is damn undignified. Once I accidentally got a receiver's cup and with me being a lineman, well, it was so tight I almost lost my nads. Then I got the clap and I'm pretty sure it started out with the quarterback's girlfriend. Anyway, it was tough. We couldn't afford weights so we had to lift freshmen for workouts. And there was definitely no money to wash the cups or the freshmen.


Umm....stupid question, but why not buy your own? They can't be that expensive.
 
Umm....stupid question, but why not buy your own? They can't be that expensive.
What?!?! That's just crazy talk. I think there's just something about this particular discussion that some of you guys aren't getting 😉.

On a related note here's another example of what happens when a little medical knowledge combines with a healthy dose of ignorance and/or mental density + public policy and voila, stupidity blooms.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301684,00.html
 
That's nothing. Funding got cut so deep when I was in high school that we only had enough cups for either offense or defense. When the offense would come out we'd have to hand off the cups at the sideline which is damn undignified. Once I accidentally got a receiver's cup and with me being a lineman, well, it was so tight I almost lost my nads. Then I got the clap and I'm pretty sure it started out with the quarterback's girlfriend. Anyway, it was tough. We couldn't afford weights so we had to lift freshmen for workouts. And there was definitely no money to wash the cups or the freshmen.

Well...at least somebody got it.


And doc, I'm so sorry you got "it", but why was the girlfriend wearing a cup?
 

Between the commentary by 'Tracy Tarbutton', the participle danglery, and at least one mention of "blue-collar values", I could swear I was reading The Onion. Then I saw the byline and the Ann Coulter ad and knew this REAL NEWS.

I'm so glad this is an anonymous forum because I can share that reading that article has me standing in my living room at 0230, wearing my Dick Trickle underoos belting out that pride song by Lee Greenwood.
 
docB, why do you think closing the schools is a bad idea? I'm just wondering. I've been reading about these closings, and since MRSA is spread by close contact, wouldn't keeping kids away from each other be a good thing?
 
You going to shut down everything else plus hose everyone down with bleach & stuff bactroban in their noses? MRSA is all over, so it isn't going away by closing the schools.
 
And MRSA won't be helped by "disinfecting" a school. Such a thing is totally impossible and it's laughable that they are spending money on it.

They'd be way better off installing handwashing stations, getting kids to use them and just teaching kids about not sharing personal items.
 
I saw a report last night on NBC nightly news where they called it "MSRA." real responsible reporting. Awaiting the Today show's report this morning. the lead in already makes it seem like this new super bacteria that no doctor has ever heard of before. i hate these people.
 
I've been eating a well balanced diet and have been exercising regularly so's I can run around and panic longer.

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Yesterday on CNN they kept calling it a "virus" that is worse than HIV. 😡
 
This is really getting ridiculous:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303157,00.html

Now I don't know this doc so I'm going to assume that he was misquoted but the way it reads it just silly.

Gude said antibiotics are completely useless in treating the infection that is commonly spread through day cares, gyms and locker rooms.

Ummmk. So maybe they have some pan resistant form no one else has heard of. Or maybe they don't have Bactrim there.

Gude said a person needs to seek medical attention if they have what looks like a bite or an abrasion, warm to the touch, that does not heal in 48 hours.

Wait. I thought antibiotics were useless for this? What kind of medical treatment should they get? Do most abrasions heal in 48 hours?

If there's no treatment available be better just quarantine everyone with a pimple until the hysteria is over.
 
We've gotten the start of the panic to come. I had two patients come in on my last shift. They both told triage they were "highly infectious" and needed to be seen immediately (mind you, I was working at our community hospital - 15 of my 25 beds filled with boarded patients and several were ICU players). Yep, both demanding to be pan-cultured for MRSA. One had driven a van filled with cheerleaders to a recent competition (you know about those high school athletes), the other heard "on the news" that if you have an abrasion, you MUST go to the ED to be assessed for MRSA.

I hope this doesn't catch on, but with the CDC spokespeople at there sounding off like MRSA (or even CA-MRSA) is some new thing, determined to kill us all...

- H
 
We've gotten the start of the panic to come. I had two patients come in on my last shift. They both told triage they were "highly infectious" and needed to be seen immediately (mind you, I was working at our community hospital - 15 of my 25 beds filled with boarded patients and several were ICU players). Yep, both demanding to be pan-cultured for MRSA. One had driven a van filled with cheerleaders to a recent competition (you know about those high school athletes), the other heard "on the news" that if you have an abrasion, you MUST go to the ED to be assessed for MRSA.


- H

Yup-
Same thing at our place last night. Weeping 21 yof convinced she was gonna die. No exposure, but tenatively scheduled for arthroplasty next month. Her concern?

"I was seen in the clinic, and I sat in a chair a long time. The clinic is in the hospital and I read that being in the hospital makes me likely to get this new infection".

FF-
You had some great phraseology on the 'airline physical' thread. Is there a similar paragraph of medico-legal goodness you could lay on us?
 
From CNN

"If we sent the whole student body back into the school, then more people would just come down [with] it and maybe even result in another death," student Chelsea Woods told CNN. "So we sent out a bunch of text messages, got on MySpace and posted a few bulletins, and decided to have a rally around the flagpole to make sure this doesn't happen again." http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/10/18/mrsa.cases/index.html



I had no idea that text messages and myspace could rid the world of MRSA. We'll have to try that here at Bellevue.

I mean, if the students wanted to get really serious they should demand that the schools be hosed down with all the vancomycin they can find. That'll fix things.
 
From CNN

"If we sent the whole student body back into the school, then more people would just come down [with] it and maybe even result in another death," student Chelsea Woods told CNN. "So we sent out a bunch of text messages, got on MySpace and posted a few bulletins, and decided to have a rally around the flagpole to make sure this doesn't happen again." http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/10/18/mrsa.cases/index.html
Again the stupidity just abounds. So the idea is that we should close the schools so all the students won't congregate and spread the dread disease. And what do they do when the schools close? Have a rally and congregate around a flag pole.

And just how does a rally prevent a bacterium. Are you trying to shame the bacterium into going away?
 
Again the stupidity just abounds. So the idea is that we should close the schools so all the students won't congregate and spread the dread disease. And what do they do when the schools close? Have a rally and congregate around a flag pole.

And just how does a rally prevent a bacterium. Are you trying to shame the bacterium into going away?


You taunt the bacterium and call out for a fight at the flag pole, 4pm, and make team uniforms out of baby wipes.
 
The "New Superbug" was the leading story on the local news here in CT tonight. The were listing the number of infected students in each school by town! These people are insane! Fortunately winter, the season of doom and destruction, will be here soon. The local news will focus on their true mission...inciting panic and urging the stocking of non-perishable food items because...gasp...it might snow.
 
I mean, if the students wanted to get really serious they should demand that the schools be hosed down with all the vancomycin they can find. That'll fix things.

This is the part that gets me. I just read the original article docb posted and it says something to the affect of "this strain of staph, while resistant to penicillin, can be treated with other drugs."

Let's read that again, shall we "can be treated with other drugs".

Why the fudge are we freaking out about something we can still treat?
 
Why the fudge are we freaking out about something we can still treat?

Because a child DIED! Don't you evil doctors care? Methicillin would have saved him if this wasn't such an awful bug. That's it, I'm getting on MySpace and making a page to support Methicillin - maybe if we all help then Methicillin will get stronger and this will stop.

{SARCASM}

- H
 
My personal favorite is that every news report in DC we are hearing how many people at such and such corporation have been infected with the "deadly disease." Hmmm, I suspect it is many more than then 8, 16, 24 at these huge places...but where are they getting their numbers? Are they reporting everyone with a pimple??? Oh my!
 
Ah, the benefits of working a string of nights.

I've been too tired to watch the news and have been blissfully ignorant of this rampant epidemic.

Take care,
Jeff
 
The "New Superbug" was the leading story on the local news here in CT tonight. The were listing the number of infected students in each school by town! These people are insane! Fortunately winter, the season of doom and destruction, will be here soon. The local news will focus on their true mission...inciting panic and urging the stocking of non-perishable food items because...gasp...it might snow.
It snows in Connecticut? Say it ain't so!
 
Anyone see the irony in the fact that Pikeville has a medical school in the town, and they still report this crap.... Why not just ask the.. *gasp* doctors *gasp* how to treat it? I hate the media and public hysteria. So, so, so dumb.
 
This past weekend the local news was "LIVE and ON-SCENE" at a local Friendly's restaurant (think Applebee's with ice cream if not from New England). What was the story?

Police on scene at local restaurant after an employee complains that Friendly's management refused to close the restaurant when another employee reported to work despite having a deadly, superbug MRSA infection.

So, apparently one employee didn't feel like working that night and decided to call the police, local media, and the Dept of Public Health to create a ridiculous circus and freak everyone out.

Just think, when I had MRSA this past August I was working in the ER! (under treatment with Abx and with the blessing of ID at the hospital) Little did I know I apparently could have just called in the media and police to shut the place down to get the night off.

Awaiting the first snow, except for the fact that no one will remember how to drive in the snow....
 
If this is how the media and John Q Public react to something we can treat, what happens when the real thing happens?
 
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