Schools Waiting for Verification?

[praying4MD]

I know this was a thread earlier, but I'm too lazy to dig it up, so here's a new one.

Does anyone know which schools are waiting for application verification before offering interviews? I was depressed about not getting an invite from one of my top choices. I called and they told me that if my application was verified, they would have offered me an invite long ago, but since it's not, I have to wait!

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[Rumit]

I know Stanford isn't even sending out secondaries without verification. Does anyone know about Northwestern and U of Chicago?

Adam

 

[SMW]

Adding Wake Forest. Which school did you call, praying4MD?

Stanford
Wake Forest

 

[praying4MD]

I called Baylor, but in retrospect, I think the person I spoke to may have been high because I spoke to someone else & they said that they *are* granting interviews without complete verification.

Baylor interviewees: Were you verified before interviewing?

 

[SMW]

praying4MD, have you tried the "threatening legal action" approach (either an actual letter from an attorney or an e-mail from you saying to expect one if you don't get verified by such and such a date?) I definitely advise taking matters into your own hands, and not just sitting around (not that that's what you're doing!) and waiting for verification. When did you submit? Wasn't it eons ago?

 

[praying4MD]

Thanks for the advice SMW. Submitted Early July and the app hasn't been touched since. I'm still looking for a cheap lawyer (I called one today that was asking $300!!) I'm racking my brain trying to figure out if I have any contacts-- guess I should've gone out with that law student, eh? Anyway, I'll probably be sending the letter middle of next week if I find a lawyer, or one from me, this week because I am getting royally screwed over by AMCAS in many ways.

 

[lilninja]

I talked to some guy in the admissions office at USC last week and he told me they were only looking at verified applications right now. I mentioned to him that I submitted in July and had not been verified yet (I am now, but they still haven't gotten it yet) and he told me it's still early anyway. But he acknowledged the situation and pretty much said that there was nothing they could do except review everything as they got verifed applications. (time constraints) That stinks. My good friend at USC thinks it is a gross injustice that the schools (USC in particular) are not putting pressure on AMCAS to make things right. It bothers me to think that someone who was verified two months after me will be reviewed before me as well. (not so much that I think it will hurt me in the long run, but that I will hear later on, perhaps after having spent thousands of dollars flying around the country while one of my top choices is still waiting for AMCAS to figure it all out).

Sorry, that kind of came out like a venting fit. But I feel better now.

 

[praying4MD]

PS: I'm wondering if the late verification & other AMCAS problems diminishes my chances significantly. It's really worrying to see others getting acceptances while I'm still waiting for verification so that I can get the interview.

Anyone have any idea on how these complications affect our admission chances, esp for rolling admissions schools?

 

[lilninja]

Yeah, I've wondered too.
I mean, I think that someone, somewhere will take me. However, I can't help but think that had this been a regular year, I might have gotten my foot in the door for a really competitive school, that may not have the chance to notice me this year, amidst the chaos.
I have been verified, but no one has gotten anything yet. People are already interviewing at Wake Forest, and I haven't even received their secondary yet and I submitted 7/8. I think I am going to boycott Wake Forest, and focus on the rest of the schools.

 

[SMW]

Originally posted by praying4MD:
•Thanks for the advice SMW. Submitted Early July and the app hasn't been touched since. I'm still looking for a cheap lawyer (I called one today that was asking $300!!) I'm racking my brain trying to figure out if I have any contacts-- guess I should've gone out with that law student, eh? Anyway, I'll probably be sending the letter middle of next week if I find a lawyer, or one from me, this week because I am getting royally screwed over by AMCAS in many ways.•

Send an e-mail detailing your problems to Nancy Tillinghast right now saying the next time she hears your name it will be from your lawyer -- she doesn't know you don't have one yet. Don't forget to mention the rolling admissions aspect and how people getting verified ahead of you are getting preferential treatment. See the thread "Nancy Tillinghast is a Saint!!!" for details.

As far as it hurting our chances, I think it may be hurting a slight bit, but not significantly. I just spoke to a lady in admissions at JHU, who started out rude but eventually warmed up, who said I was "lucky" to have been verified. There are lots and lots of good applicants with verification problems, and I don't think the medschools are going to compromise the quality of their classes just to take the first people verified. It seems like a lot of interviews and acceptances are being posted, but it's really just a tiny, tiny fraction of the numbers that will eventually be admitted.

 

[SMW]

Originally posted by lilninja:
•focus, not focue •

lilninja, there is an edit function (the little pencil) that you might find useful.

I don't think you should be discouraged. It is early. And I think the better schools will still be looking at apps carefully and not going strictly by numbers.

 

[lilninja]

Hey SMW - thanks! I had no idea! What a big dork I am.

 

[SMW]

So the list of schools known to be waiting for verification before granting interviews is now:

Keck
Stanford
Wake Forest

 

[praying4MD]

Thanks for your advice SMW! That email will be going out today for sure. The way you've been helping people out on this board recently, I think I should start a thread called, "SMW is a Saint!" Good luck in this harrowing process.

 

[SMW]

Originally posted by praying4MD:
•Thanks for your advice SMW! That email will be going out today for sure. The way you've been helping people out on this board recently, I think I should start a thread called, "SMW is a Saint!" Good luck in this harrowing process. •

Aw, shucks! And thanks. I predict you'll hear from Nancy before the end of the week.

 

[SMW]

Originally posted by lilninja:
• It bothers me to think that someone who was verified two months after me will be reviewed before me as well.

•

Why would someone verified 2 months after you get reviewed ahead of you? It's AMCAS that's screwed up on their ordering process, not the adcoms! Did I miss something?

 

[lilninja]

no SMW - I messed up. I meant two months after I submitted. So basically, if someone submitted two months later and was verified faster, they would be reviewed earlier and interviewed earlier, even though I tried to be a good applicant and applied early.
Most med schools are sympathetic to that, it's just that they have no choice in the matter.
Oh well

 

[jftsai]

Originally posted by SMW:
•So the list of schools known to be waiting for verification before granting interviews is now:

Keck
Stanford
Wake Forest•

Wayne State too

 

[SMW]

So the list of schools known to be waiting for verification before granting interviews is now:

Keck
Stanford
Wake Forest
Wayne State

 

[praying4MD]

SMW: You will never believe what happened. I had my email ready to go out to Nancy (I like to think we're on a 1st name basis now.) I was about to press send when I thought I would just double check the status of my app before I did that.

Miraculously, I HAVE RED X'S! WOOHOO! It's really sad that I get so excited over something so trivial, but I can't contain my joy! 3 months and 5 days after my initial submission, I have the red x's. Wow.

So, obviously, i didn't send good ol' Nancy that email, and I just saved $300.

Thanks a million for the advice though.

BTW, What happens now? What sort of changes should I be looking for? All I have is the "Change-Notification" Button. What comes next?

Thanks again.

 

[Resident Alien]

Mount Sinai won't go ahead without verification too (atleast thats what they told me)

Keck
Mt. Sinai
Stanford
Wake Forest
Wayne State

 

[praying4MD]

Not for sure about this, but it's what I was told-- adding UNC-Chapel Hill

Keck
Mt. Sinai
UNC- Chapel Hill
Stanford
Wake Forest
Wayne State

 

[praying4MD]

Adding Dartmouth

Dartmouth
Keck
Mt. Sinai
UNC- Chapel Hill
Stanford
Wake Forest
Wayne State

 

[lorarp]

Dartmouth should be taken off. I got an interview (and have gone on it already - the admissions staff there is so great!) without being verified - though I have since been verified! (It only took 3 months, 10 days)

 

[praying4MD]

What is it with the admissions staff lying to me? Is it a conspiracy or something? Thanks for the info.

Keck
Mt. Sinai
UNC- Chapel Hill
Stanford
Wake Forest
Wayne State

 

[SMW]

Originally posted by praying4MD:
•
BTW, What happens now? What sort of changes should I be looking for? All I have is the "Change-Notification" Button. What comes next?

Thanks again.•

Well, you're through the verification process when you have a date after Date Processed in the upper right hand corner of the first page on the "print application" screen. You should also have blue slashes and X's by your coursework to show that it's been verified.

Then, according to Nancy (we are on a first name basis!) schools that are set up to receive electronic transmission get your app immediately, others get a summary app (they go out in batches every Monday) and later (I'm not sure how much later) a paper app.

Congrats on being on the way!

 

[Szkwicz]

I'm unverified and I just got an interview offer for Wayne State on 10/30.
Taking Wayne St. off the list...

Keck
Mt. Sinai
UNC- Chapel Hill
Stanford
Wake Forest

 

[gettin']

add miami too

 

[praying4MD]

New & improved List:

Keck
Miami
Mt. Sinai
UNC- Chapel Hill
Stanford
Wake Forest

 

[sandflea]

UIC will interview you without a verified app but won't act on your app (i.e. make a decision) until it IS verified. maybe every school is doing it this way, though...

 

[Resident Alien]

Originally posted by sandflea:
•UIC will interview you without a verified app but won't act on your app (i.e. make a decision) until it IS verified. maybe every school is doing it this way, though...•

No, at least for case and mich. If i remember correctly, they will give conditional acceptances (signed by the student ofcourse), and make the student liable for any screw ups after the student looks over the unofficial app. and gives the ok.

 

[ewells]

Until someone shows otherwise, I am adding Mayo and OHSU. They both told me they were waiting for verification before they reviewed apps. This was awhile ago, so it may have changed.
Keck
Mayo
Miami
Mt. Sinai
UNC- Chapel Hill
OHSU
Stanford
Wake Forest

 

[Mage]

OHSU says this:

The Admissions Office made the decision to proceed with the interview process despite the fact that the majority of applications have yet to be verified by AMCAS. Whether your application is verified or unverified will not affect an applicant's ability to interview. Upon receipt of the printed application from AMCAS and submission of the Ohio State web secondary, application files are reviewed and considered for interview. This process is expected to continue through March.

So um, how do you get a secondary?

 

[SMW]

Do you have Oregon Health Sciences University confused with Ohio State?

OHSU will send you a secondary after you've submitted your AMCAS and AMCAS sends them your preliminary information.

 

[Monkey5555]

adding the Univ. of Colorado and Univ. of Vermont. I spoke with an admissions officer at UVM who said that they will be putting up some sort of website where applicants will be sent an ID # and pin (snail mail or email, she wasn't sure) and will be able to log on to see the grades/scores as they have them and verify that they are correct, or change something and submit proof. She wasn't sure when all that would be starting.

 

[ewells]

This thread is about verification before interviews. I received a secondary from OHSU (not Ohio St.) while unverified, but I do not think they are offering interviews until they have the real thing.

 

[praying4MD]

New list:

University of Colorado
Keck
Mayo
Miami
Mt. Sinai
UNC- Chapel Hill
OHSU
Stanford
University of Vermont
Wake Forest

 

[Dylann FMD]

Taking Mayo off the list. I had both my phone interview and scheduled my on-site interview before being verified.

University of Colorado
Keck
Miami
Mt. Sinai
UNC- Chapel Hill
OHSU
Stanford
University of Vermont
Wake Forest

 

[The Fly]

I am taking Sinai off the list since i've interviewed there and I am nearing the four month mark without being verified!

University of Colorado
Keck
Miami
UNC- Chapel Hill
OHSU
Stanford
University of Vermont
Wake Forest

 

[ewells]

Dammit Dylann, you just broke my heart. I guess I'm back to no news is good news.

 

[praying4MD]

Taking out UNC-Chapel Hill

University of Colorado
Keck
Miami
OHSU
Stanford
University of Vermont
Wake Forest

 

[Resident Alien]

Im re-adding Mt. Sinai, since the admissions office INSISTS they won't go ahead without the verified application!

University of Colorado
Keck
Miami
Mt. Sinai
OHSU
Stanford
University of Vermont
Wake Forest