SDN Fairgrounds - 10th Annual Noob WW Game

[katiemcat]

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Agreed, so I think the fact that fruit latched onto that read is something worth looking at.

It’s not. I promise you haha.

 

[katiemcat]

Agreed, so I think the fact that fruit latched onto that read is something worth looking at.

It’s not. I promise you

rae: Of all the players we have at this point, she is one of the more likely ones to flip scum. I don't believe she caused the passive blocking of fruit and t4c. I do get where the vampy push is coming from and I agree on certain points. I also really appreciate the big post she just made for us. However, I don't know if I fully trust her either. At some point I want to go back and iso her posts to see if I can find anything more concrete about her because "I just don't know" isn't enough for me. I'd be willing to vote here if others are leaning in this direction.

katie: I really truly think she's village. I'm not sure that we'd be getting the level of questioning we are seeing from her if she was a wolf. I guess the alternative here is that she could be a wolf whose manator is coaching her to do this, but nothing about her questions have come off as staged/coached. They all seem organic. I won't be voting here today.

Spurs: I'm kind of surprised with spurs' defense of me given where I stand with the thread as a whole. He's like katie in that he is asking good questions that seem organic. Those of you who have voted for spurs so far, would you be willing to share why? I feel like there are other people who are reading more wolf to me than him, but if there is something I missed about him I'd be willing to consider a spurs vote.

CeeGee: At this point in the game, I *think* CG is village. I know I've been jumping back and forth with CG and that I voted for them yesterday - but as I stated earlier a lot of that was because of my interaction with apoptosis and POE. CG hasn't done anything (since the very beginning of the game but we've discussed that ad nauseum) that makes me think they're a wolf. There seems to be some kind of blocc with katie, CG, fruit, and spiane in it and that does make me a little nervous as it's too easy for a wolf to hide in there somewhere. I'm unlikely to vote CG today but it's somewhere in the realm of possibility.

fruit: Given what other players have said about fruit and his role I believe he is a village seer. I do know that rae mentioned being wary of fruit so I will keep that in mind. I just feel like enough players have corroborated fruit's role (PBC, katie, and spiane) that he's probably legit. He did also provide info about spiane and nicole which leads me to further believe he is indeed a village seer. I won't be voting here today either.

spiane: The spiane/nicole situation makes me a little bit nervous. Up to this point I've assumed that spiane and nicole being same affiliation means they're both village. However, it is possible that they're both wolves. I don't know how likely that is, but it seems unwise to not at least consider the possibility. I haven't been able to get a great read on spiane this whole game and I still don't feel like I have a great read on them. They appear village but are also hanging out in the aforementioned blocc. Not a bad place to be if you're a noob wolf. I don't want to vote spiane today because there really isn't enough evidence to say they're a wolf, but I will be keeping an eye on them just in case.

nicole: I'm not sure what to make of her. She hasn't been very active on the thread at all and I still don't understand why she made that claim about apoptosis last night and then vanished without explaining it at all up to this point. Like I said when talking about spiane, up to this point I've been assuming she's village because of the shared affiliation with spiane. But I don't know if I want to continue simply assuming that. I am considering voting nicole for the moment to put some pressure on her (like I did with skisk) and see if we can get some answers.

vampy: I don't know how to feel about vampy at all. The 3p claim and whole situation with PBC and fruit make me a little nervous. I want to believe her because her role seems too specific to have made up on the fly. Rae's point about the blocking on N3 is also something to consider. Clearly rae and vampy are not paired so if one of them is a wolf then the other one probably isn't. I don't think it's in our best interest to lose the vig shot power if vampy can use it tonight so I don't think I want to vote for her today, but at some point we'll probably need to so 3p doesn't win the game.

PBC: I alluded to this earlier, but up to this point I feel like I've been giving PBC the benefit of the doubt because of the situation with fruit and vampy and if vampy is 3p than PBC being village makes sense, etc. However it still bothers me that PBC claimed fruit was seer but never followed up on that or provided information about other players. It seems possible to me that PBC made that up about fruit to give herself village cred. I also just feel like I haven't seen much at all of PBC so I don't have a great read on her (much like Nicole). I would be willing to vote for her tonight if we don't get clarification/additional evidence.

im gonna let yall know me and my manator have barely spoken

 

[fruitsalad]

rae claims i’m pushing her because she’s an easy misyeet

this is wrong

i’m facing a lot of resistance not just toward her but any wolfreads i push

 

[vampyrica]

and did you see me waffle that game?

waffle in which sense? bc you flip votes around almost once every hour haha

 

[katiemcat]

when you have a second, what color did you get?

Vamps inspo

 

[vampyrica]

Vamps inspo

OH I LOVEEEEE

 

[_rae_]

T4C couldn’t read me and it was early. I’m not shocked or mad at T4C for voting me, it makes perfect sense why they would. Hell I probably would have done the same if the roles were reversed but it was me who called out that something fishy was going on with that train.

I didn’t ignore your CG vote. It didn’t feel one way or another to me.

 

[fruitsalad]

waffle in which sense? bc you flip votes around almost once every hour haha

rae’s referring to the last game we played

 

[_rae_]

you ignored the fact that i voted beans and was literally trying to get people to vote beans in D4, apop dying was a tragedy as a direct consequence of beans power

each of the village deaths are unfortunate, but you cannot use that to pin the blame on me when i’ve been trying for a long time to nail the wolves

I'M NOT PINNING VILLAGE DEATHS ON YOU

I'm saying we've lost too many villagers for it to be considered unreasonable and wolfy to go back and reassess reads!

 

[beans2020]

I wrote up my big post before I saw the rae and fruit stuff that just came up. I haven't played much with fruit but from what I can tell the fruit waffling is just how fruit plays. This is making me more suspicious of rae than fruit.

 

[soupshark]

This is interesting 🤔 I am having more thoughts.

I am like 99% sure fruit is village so all this push back is making me suspicious.

 

[vampyrica]

Vamps inspo

(also the one thing i’m looking forward to when i eventually have kids, besides actually having a baby, is how strong and longggg my nails and hair will grow)

 

[katiemcat]

(also the one thing i’m looking forward to when i eventually have kids, besides actually having a baby, is how strong and longggg my nails and hair will grow)

My nails have never been this long or healthy in my life!!!

 

[_rae_]

rae’s referring to the last game we played

My point is I don't truly know your meta and it shouldn't matter that much because a meta can change at any time. Changing votes 80 million times is a reasonable suspicion to have D2, and it hasn't been brought up as a reason I think you're worth looking into since.

 

[soupshark]

unyeet beans

yeet rae

@kaydubs @WildZoo

 

[fruitsalad]

I'M NOT PINNING VILLAGE DEATHS ON YOU

I'm saying we've lost too many villagers for it to be considered unreasonable and wolfy to go back and reassess reads!

you can reassess however you’d like, but i will call out pushes that look brazenly wolfy to me

 

[_rae_]

This is interesting 🤔 I am having more thoughts.

I am like 99% sure fruit is village so all this push back is making me suspicious.

My push is WHY. WHY has everyone decided fruit is village. I'm not saying everyone and their mother is wrong I'm saying

THERE'S 10 OF US LEFT AND YOU CAN'T JUST SKATE BY ON WE'VE DECIDED SOMEONE IS VILLAGE

 

[vampyrica]

My point is I don't truly know your meta and it shouldn't matter that much because a meta can change at any time. Changing votes 80 million times is a reasonable suspicion to have D2, and it hasn't been brought up as a reason I think you're worth looking into since.

i have to agree with this- meta should only be a drop in the bucket of how much to consider. considering this is a noob game, meta should be brought up minimally and taken with a grain of salt (i realize i did this previously multiple times but i toned it down after being gently reminded this is a noob game)

 

[fruitsalad]

My point is I don't truly know your meta and it shouldn't matter that much because a meta can change at any time. Changing votes 80 million times is a reasonable suspicion to have D2, and it hasn't been brought up as a reason I think you're worth looking into since.

when you referenced the last game, i barely changed my vote.

in fact, NOT changing my vote is what got indy misyeeted and led to wolves winning

 

[_rae_]

I'm walking away. Flip me and find out that I'm village but don't come crying to me when you stick with your reads and are in the same damn boat tomorrow.

I'm getting coffee with my spouse on their lunch break and won't be back for a few hours.

when you referenced the last game, i barely changed my vote.

in fact, NOT changing my vote is what got indy misyeeted and led to wolves winning

I'm not using your vote changing right now. That was said once in a D2 reads list. You're trying to divert away and focus on two examples to keep focus off of you.

 

[fruitsalad]

My push is WHY. WHY has everyone decided fruit is village. I'm not saying everyone and their mother is wrong I'm saying

THERE'S 10 OF US LEFT AND YOU CAN'T JUST SKATE BY ON WE'VE DECIDED SOMEONE IS VILLAGE

then why are you village reading spurs, PBC, CG with fewer reasons while extensively focusing on me? if you’re going to reeval, this should be for everyone, but all you said is “they gave good reasons that felt organic or natural”, but then when it comes to me, you go back to confirmation biasing from before

 

[vampyrica]

I'm walking away. Flip me and find out that I'm village but don't come crying to me when you stick with your reads and are in the same damn boat tomorrow.

I'm getting coffee with my spouse on their lunch break and won't be back for a few hours.

(carbs always help too, enjoy a sweet treat and quality time with your spouse <3 )

 

[fruitsalad]

I'm walking away. Flip me and find out that I'm village but don't come crying to me when you stick with your reads and are in the same damn boat tomorrow.

I'm getting coffee with my spouse on their lunch break and won't be back for a few hours.


I'm not using your vote changing right now. That was said once in a D2 reads list. You're trying to divert away and focus on two examples to keep focus off of you.

i’m literally voting spurs right now

and i’m hard pushing beans and have been before, but for some reason, i get lumped as a wolfread WITH beans according to you

yes i see it as a problem and why i think your push on me is wolfy

 

[_rae_]

then why are you village reading spurs, PBC, CG with fewer reasons while extensively focusing on me? if you’re going to reeval, this should be for everyone, but all you said is “they gave good reasons that felt organic or natural”, but then when it comes to me, you go back to confirmation biasing from before

I went back through everyone’s posts to the best of my ability. Again, this is a noob game. I expect a couple of villagers with dumb tendencies. I’m pushing back on the strongest village reads because everyone has village read you since like D2/D3 whereas there’s been more action and question of others. I’m not going to sit here and potentially let the wolves win because we blocced to early.

 

[beans2020]

Just to be clear, this is NOT a final vote - this is a push for information. Like with sksisk. Subject to change based on what comes up.

yeet nicole

@WildZoo @kaydubs

 

[fruitsalad]

i’m not ignoring the fact that rae’s attacks on me mirror spurs’ earlier attacks on me, both focusing extensively on the purple text

 

[CeeGee14]

@CeeGee14 How do you feel about beans alone yeeting you yesterday?

I felt that her reason for yeeting me yesterday-thinking I was the poisoner-was kinda thin. She said she thought I was the poisoner via process of elimination and her reads, but what process of elimination? There's been so much uncertainty and back and forth that I think Beans just latched onto my earlier stumbles in the game as a reason for yeeting me.

 

[fruitsalad]

I went back through everyone’s posts to the best of my ability. Again, this is a noob game. I expect a couple of villagers with dumb tendencies. I’m pushing back on the strongest village reads because everyone has village read you since like D2/D3 whereas there’s been more action and question of others. I’m not going to sit here and potentially let the wolves win because we blocced to early.

PBC, katie, spiane are just as if not more village read than me, but you’re giving them much more credit while resuming your attacks on me

 

[katiemcat]

Just to be clear, this is NOT a final vote - this is a push for information. Like with sksisk. Subject to change based on what comes up.

yeet nicole

@WildZoo @kaydubs

I think you are right to question us blanket village reading Spiane and Nicole because they are the same.

Nicole has been one of the least active players and we probably have the least info on her to go off of rn.

 

[vampyrica]

i’m not ignoring the fact that rae’s attacks on me mirror spurs’ earlier attacks on me, both focusing extensively on the purple text

do you think that’s a pairing??

 

[soupshark]

My push is WHY. WHY has everyone decided fruit is village. I'm not saying everyone and their mother is wrong I'm saying

THERE'S 10 OF US LEFT AND YOU CAN'T JUST SKATE BY ON WE'VE DECIDED SOMEONE IS VILLAGE

I'm not revealing that information for obvious reasons. I understand why that is frustrating but it's the name of the game. I don't want to put a target on my back if I don't have to.

If this helps @beans2020 or anyone else - I know fruit is most likely being truthful about their role due to my own.

How PBC knows fruit is truthful I do not know.

Me as well

I think this is enough of a hint for me to give out. I'm not elaborating.

 

[fruitsalad]

do you think that’s a pairing??

yes which is why i’m prioritizing spurs over rae

 

[vampyrica]

I think you are right to question us blanket village reading Spiane and Nicole because they are the same.

Nicole has been one of the least active players and we probably have the least info on her to go off of rn.

seconding this. we’re in a rough spot rn, spiane has given us more than nicole has though..

 

[soupshark]

I think Nicole will be active today after the blue coat ceremony. I think it's almost over

 

[fruitsalad]

why is rae attacking me and village reading spurs right after i began pushing spurs?

 

[beans2020]

I trust spiane more than nicole right now. We just need more information in general.

 

[vampyrica]

yes which is why i’m prioritizing spurs over rae

becauseee?…. if you’re actively discussing with rae, and you’re sussing them out, and spurs said they were driving, why “put pressure” on spurs while they’re away when rae was right here??

can you explain your thought process here?

 

[katiemcat]

I went back through everyone’s posts to the best of my ability. Again, this is a noob game. I expect a couple of villagers with dumb tendencies. I’m pushing back on the strongest village reads because everyone has village read you since like D2/D3 whereas there’s been more action and question of others. I’m not going to sit here and potentially let the wolves win because we blocced to early.

I'm sorry you're getting frustrated being targeted (?)

But we have had 2 people confirm Fruit is being truthful about their ability.

 

[vampyrica]

why is rae attacking me and village reading spurs right after i began pushing spurs?

did their read on spurs change or has it stayed pretty consistent all game?

 

[beans2020]

I think Nicole will be active today after the blue coat ceremony. I think it's almost over

is that like white coat for the new class? I haven't heard of a blue coat ceremony before

 

[fruitsalad]

becauseee?…. if you’re actively discussing with rae, and you’re sussing them out, and spurs said they were driving, why “put pressure” on spurs while they’re away when rae was right here??

can you explain your thought process here?

it’s not a pressure vote on spurs fyi

i feel bad equally about them and with beans

 

[vampyrica]

is that like white coat for the new class? I haven't heard of a blue coat ceremony before

csu has a blue coat! (which i love bc i hate wearing white. so. freaking. much.)

 

[vampyrica]

it’s not a pressure vote on spurs fyi

i feel bad equally about them and with beans

okay! so it’s a legit vote, got it

 

[beans2020]

did their read on spurs change or has it stayed pretty consistent all game?

fruit or rae?

 

[soupshark]

I'm sorry you're getting frustrated being targeted (?)

But we have had 2 people confirm Fruit is being truthful about their ability.

Yeah I understand it's frustrating when it feels like you vs everyone else but this is the game. We have to figure out who the wolf is so we have to question everyone.

 

[soupshark]

csu has a blue coat! (which i love bc i hate wearing white. so. freaking. much.)

We get a white coat 3rd year before starting clinics but for 1st and 2nd year we wear blue to distinguish us from the 4th years. I really like the blue coat too I think it looks nice and is better in terms of it getting dirty haha

 

[vampyrica]

fruit or rae?

rae! sorry

 

[katiemcat]

Yeah I understand it's frustrating when it feels like you vs everyone else but this is the game. We have to figure out who the wolf is so we have to question everyone.

People getting frustrated is understandable but it also makes it feel like we're not allowed to question you when there are legit gaps in our understanding of your logic.

 

[beans2020]

We get a white coat 3rd year before starting clinics but for 1st and 2nd year we wear blue to distinguish us from the 4th years. I really like the blue coat too I think it looks nice and is better in terms of it getting dirty haha

Oh that's fun! We just get a white coat before 3rd year. no fun colors sadly.

 

[soupshark]

People getting frustrated is understandable but it also makes it feel like we're not allowed to question you when there are legit gaps in our understanding of your logic.

Yeah for sure. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells