Serious question...Please help

[Allthatglitters]

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Hello Everyone
I have matched already and excited to graduate. Recently, I completed a required rotation and did quite poorly...I almost failed the shelf exam and got poor evaluations from an attending. My question is, how will this affect me in the long run? Do schools even include evals on the Dean's letter after the match? And do fellowships look at medical school Dean's letters? I still can't believe all of this is happening....

 

[smq123]

Hello Everyone
I have matched already and excited to graduate. Recently, I completed a required rotation and did quite poorly...I almost failed the shelf exam and got poor evaluations from an attending. My question is, how will this affect me in the long run? Do schools even include evals on the Dean's letter after the match? And do fellowships look at medical school Dean's letters? I still can't believe all of this is happening....

After the Match? 😕 Your dean's letter was written and done long ago. They haven't re-written it to include classes that you finished after October, and it certainly won't include rotations that you did after you Matched.

You'll be fine.

 

[jdh71]

You will have to submit your med school transcripts for fellowship. So the bad grade will be buried in there most likely, but I can't think of why anyone will give a ****, if you've got good letters by the time you decide to apply for fellowship. A LOT of bull**** can be forgiven if it happened long enough ago and you've demonstrated no further problem, I promise.

 

[dragonfly99]

I'm confused about why you would still be taking shelf exams as a 4th year student. Was this some required 3rd year rotation that you had put off?
I pretty much agree with the above, though. This is unlikely to affect you much, if at all, later. If the attending somehow hated you enough to personally contact your program director, that's the only thing I can see hurting you, but I honestly can't see that happening. You might want to explore why you were evaluated so poorly, but then again may want to just let sleeping dogs lie. If you don't feel comfortable talking with the attending, then perhaps an intern, other student or resident on the rotation (unless they were all heinous or something).

 

[gutonc]

I'm confused about why you would still be taking shelf exams as a 4th year student. Was this some required 3rd year rotation that you had put off?

Some schools (like the one I went to) have required "3rd Year" rotations that add up to >52 weeks so some of your 3rd year rotations will, of necessity, happen in your 4th year. I took both Surgery (Sept/Oct) and EM (April) in my 4th year. It was actually kind of awesome since it made those rotations essentially superfluous and I just showed up, did the minimum amt of work required and went home. I worked pretty hard on Surgery just because there was still the chance a poor grade could bite me in the arse but I had already seen the drafts of both my MSPE and IM Chair's letter by the time I started that rotation so I wasn't too worried.

 

[cartoondoc]

Agree with above. Unless you do something REALLY BAD (like, I don't know, making babies with a dead patient) nothing you do in med school matters after match.

 

[Allthatglitters]

Thank you for all of your encouraging feedback everyone. So does your dean letter not get updated after the initial one is made? I'm just afraid that the poor comments will somehow be added onto the dean's list.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Thank you for all of your encouraging feedback everyone. So does your dean letter not get updated after the initial one is made? I'm just afraid that the poor comments will somehow be added onto the dean's list.

No the Dean's letter/MSPE does not get updated before you start residency.

 

[Maybeknot]

No the Dean's letter/MSPE does not get updated before you start residency.

Hell, I had to apply to the match twice, and the 2nd time around, the Dean's office wouldn't update my MSPE from November of the prior year. As long as you graduate on good standing, I doubt it will impact anything.