Sexual Harassment on rotation

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Have there been any updates on this?

 

[KimChiSlap]

Yes, but do it in a creepy, leering way 😉

Then that could be seen as sexual harassment.
I think that is subjective. One see it as uncomfortable then yes, while to others it may not be.

 

[KimChiSlap]

Why don’t you refuse to have your white coat inspected at cvs when asked, and see what happens.

May be questioned by LP when there is a drug lost and being suspected of drug diversion.

 

[Momus]

I made a joke at my previous job with the VP that maybe he needed the exercise after he commented on how far he had to walk... he laughed

Yes, some people are quite dumb deciphering social cues/context. In this case @ op...

• Dude look away after being caught = not sexual harassment (if his eyes stay on your butt, (or breast) all the time when he is talking to you leering and ogling you, then that's a different matter). You guys never check anyone out? LMAO
• Compliments not sexual in nature = not sexual harassment
• Telling you to take off your smock off instead of his hands patting you down = not sexual harassment

OP is absolutely clueless about sexual harassment definition. She might know the rph in question displayed some interest in her, but by no means this fits the definition of sexual harassment. If you know one of your coworker likes you, do you report them after displaying this behaviors or playfully flirt with you? I know it happened to me quite a bit. I don't do sh1t because I know it's NOT a sexual harassment.

 

[PharmDBro2017]

Would’ve enjoyed seeing a poll in the OP of this thread. Seems that the vast majority ITT are in agreement that this case is far from sexual harassment.


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[Sparda29]

Why don’t you refuse to have your white coat inspected at cvs when asked, and see what happens.

That's not the issue here. The issue is the commentary and compliments. I dunno if I'm just socially awkward but I've never walked up to a woman random or someone who I worked with and made a comment about their looks.

Someone else can check her lab coat. I was always checked by a random front store cashier or assistant manager.

 

[ldiot]

Giving someone a complement/looking at them is not sexual harassment, even if he is creepy he didn't really do anything wrong.

 

[Dr. Pill]

Man this thread has legs. (No sexual undertone intended towards thread)

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

Why don’t you refuse to have your white coat inspected at cvs when asked, and see what happens.

I think you're overestimating the confidence level of the average shift-leader or shift manager.

I wouldn't wait for them at several Austin stores.

Our district manager didn't care

That's not the issue here. The issue is the commentary and compliments. I dunno if I'm just socially awkward but I've never walked up to a woman random or someone who I worked with and made a comment about their looks.

Someone else can check her lab coat. I was always checked by a random front store cashier or assistant manager.

Bruh

 

[wucool33]

Regardless, I think it is harsh and not very helpful to just tell the OP her discomfort is wrong and she should change her feelings.

I stopped reading right here. Literally no one in this thread told her she should change her feelings. So what are you even talking about?

 

[beautifulrobot]

I stopped reading right here. Literally no one in this thread told her she should change her feelings. So what are you even talking about?

Lol @OP... Calling this sexual harrasment. He is just complimenting you. Pretty girls are nice to look at. Laugh it off, smile and get an A on this rotation.

Can’t help but agree. Sounds hypersensitive to a guy looking at you... he made a comment about you being in shape and your lunch, good grief.

How old is this man? Curious.


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You are over reacting. He isn't doing anything even remotely illegal. Last time I checked looking at someone is not unprofessional. Checking your labcoat is probably because he suspects you of stealing. Your school is going to be mad if you cause problems as they worked hard to secure that rotation spot. Also if you try to stir up stuff you could risk failing the rotation due to the pharmacist using his position of power to fail you. Just accept that some males are creepy and deal with it. The rotation is only 6 weeks.

Had an RN smack my ass the other day in the hospital. Didn’t even know who she was till I saw the name tag... I don’t know her besides speaking on the phone when she needs something tubed up here and there. That is actual harassment.

People are wayyy too hypersensitive these days.

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Just from the first two pages of this thread... Maybe no one literally used the exact words that she is wrong and needs to change her feelings, but that's how I interpert being told you're hypersensitive, overreacting, and you need to just get over it and smile.

 

[wucool33]

Just from the first two pages of this thread... Maybe no one literally used the exact words that she is wrong and needs to change her feelings, but that's how I interpert being told you're hypersensitive, overreacting, and you need to just get over it and smile.

People are saying she’s too sensitive because it’s not sexual harassment, but almost every one told her to talk to that pharmacist. Uncomfortable doesn’t always mean sexual harassment.

 

[owlegrad]

People are saying she’s too sensitive because it’s not sexual harassment, but almost every one told her to talk to that pharmacist. Uncomfortable doesn’t always mean sexual harassment.

So telling someone that they are hypersensitive is not the same as telling them to change how they feel?

How much semantics should we argue?

 

[PharmDBro2017]

So telling someone that they are hypersensitive is not the same as telling them to change how they feel?

How much semantics should we argue?

Being uncomfortable is subjective, and is not sexual harassment.

Sexual harassment is defined as unwanted sexual advances or obscene remarks. Did this pharmacist do any of those objective things?


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[owlegrad]

Being uncomfortable is subjective, and is not sexual harassment.

Sexual harassment is defined as unwanted sexual advances or obscene remarks. Did this pharmacist do any of those objective things?


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How does this question relate to the topic of if the OP should change her feelings, which is what was being discussed in the post you quoted?

The argument isn't "should she or shouldn't she" (well maybe it is, but that is besides the point here), the point is wucool claimed that no one told her to change her feelings. That is pretty demonstrably false unless he literally meant that no one used the words "change how you feel".

But to follow you down the rabbit hole, how is "sexual advance" an objective thing? What objective test would you use to determine that?

 

[PharmDBro2017]

How does this question relate to the topic of if the OP should change her feelings, which is what was being discussed in the post you quoted?

The argument isn't "should she or shouldn't she" (well maybe it is, but that is besides the point here), the point is wucool claimed that no one told her to change her feelings. That is pretty demonstrably false unless he literally meant that no one used the words "change how you feel".

But to follow you down the rabbit hole, how is "sexual advance" an objective thing? What objective test would you use to determine that?

Because feelings are subjective.

Someone straight asking you to go get coffee, to come over to their place after work, or physically approaching you (grabbing, touching, pressing you up against a wall, etc) in a sexual and unwanted way... those are objective sexual advances. Would you agree? An objective sexual advance is fairly obvious to point out, if you have ever received one or given one... you would know. I don’t think you’d need to ask an online forum.


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[owlegrad]

Because feelings are subjective.

Someone straight asking you to go get coffee, to come over to their place after work, or physically approaching you (grabbing, touching, pressing you up against a wall, etc) in a sexual and unwanted way... those are objective sexual advances. Would you agree? An objective sexual advance is fairly obvious to point out, if you have ever received one or given one... you would know. I don’t think you’d need to ask an online forum.


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So telling someone they look good or staring at them is not "objectively" sexual? You have to ask the person on a date or other extreme behavior for it to be objective?

Also I am not sure that asking someone to go get coffee can be considered "objectively" sexual. I have gotten coffee with people I didn't want to have sex with after all. It would depend on context, which ruins the "objective" part of it, doesn't it?

I think we all know a sexual advance when we see one, including the OP. But I am not sure you know what "objective" means or you are deliberately misusing it. Have you NEVER misconstrued someones intentions? I know I have thought people were sending me signals when it turns out they weren't. So while I agree that most of your examples are certainly sexual advances I do not agree that all sexual advances are objective.

 

[PharmDBro2017]

So telling someone they look good or staring at them is not "objectively" sexual? You have to ask the person on a date or other extreme behavior for it to be objective?

Also I am not sure that asking someone to go get coffee can be considered "objectively" sexual. I have gotten coffee with people I didn't want to have sex with after all. It would depend on context, which ruins the "objective" part of it, doesn't it?

I think we all know a sexual advance when we see one, including the OP. But I am not sure you know what "objective" means or you are deliberately misusing it. Have you NEVER misconstrued someones intentions? I know I have thought people were sending me signals when it turns out they weren't. So while I agree that most of your examples are certainly sexual advances I do not agree that all sexual advances are objective.

You’re right, it isn’t that easily black and white. I shouldn’t have used the coffee example, but often that is how us guys politely ask a girl out. I personally do not see this pharmacist as crossing the line into a sexual advance or by definition committing sexual harassment. Agree to disagree here buddy!

Anyway, I hope this guy stops creeping OP out at least. An update would be nice too.

I do think she should confront him if it continues. I don’t see a reason for upper management or the school to be involved.


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[zelman]

I think OP is probably going to come check this thread soon, realize that all pharmacists are crazy, and change majors.

 

[Rouelle]

I think OP is probably going to come check this thread soon, realize that all pharmacists are crazy, and change majors.

According to the info given by SDN when a username is clicked, OP was last seen here on 3/18. Her rotation is likely very nearly, if not already, over. Who knows, she and Mr. Awkward may be friends by now. They may even be dating...

 

[mentos]

This was the ultimate troll thread, you've all been had. First post with username biblegirl? Come on. She feels violated cause she has to take off her white coat? LoL. Everyone knows that you have to take your white coat off and have the pockets checked at CVS.

 

[Sparda29]

I think OP is probably going to come check this thread soon, realize that all pharmacists are crazy, and change majors.

My best friend often tells me that she's never met a "normal" pharmacist.

 

[BenJammin]

Telling someone they look good is not sexual. One of my techs cut his dreds and got a really professional looking haircut and I told him he looked great. Do you really think I'm trying to have sex with him?

 

[PharmDBro2017]

My best friend often tells me that she's never met a "normal" pharmacist.

Ya.. hence her being friends with you.


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[lane one]

Man this thread has legs. (No sexual undertone intended towards thread)

Legs for days...