Shadowing a Nurse

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that is so randommmm
u job shadow only because u wanna learn about a job...
you dont job shadow an office worker to learn how to be a CEO rite? looolz
It's funny to see potential med students already think that they know it all. Believe me.. the bright doctors most of the time ask nurses what they think when they are about to start a treatment plan...

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To respond to the EKG comments:

EKG machines do have autodiagnosis. However, it is not accurate enough to base a diagnosis on. So what we do is print off a blank copy (with no diagnosis) for the attending. We then give the copy with the machine's diagnosis for the cardiologist, who makes changes and signs it. The changes are recorded in the computer and the final edited version goes to the patient's electronic chart.

There are lots of levels of being able to read EKG's. A nurse might read an EKG as "Atrial fibrillation." A regular doctor might read it as "Atrial fibrillation with a bundle branch block and ST wave abnormalities." A cardiologist might read it as "Atrial fibrillation with a complete left bundle branch block, old inferolateral infarct, left atrial deformity, and lateral ischemia." They would all be correct, but a doctor generally will be able to get more information than a nurse and a cardiologist can get more than a doctor. That's why the cardiologist has the official read.

I have indeed had doctors ask me how to read an EKG. They may have been interns or residents - don't remember - but it did happen. Thankfully this was not very common, but it was at a highly ranked hospital attached to a highly ranked med school. My point was not to imply that this situation was the norm or to diminish the importance of most doctors' abilities, but rather to respond to some of the posts which I felt were arrogant. I feel that there is a tendency to assume that doctors are the only ones that ever know anything in the hospital, and that they never have the learning curve and the moments where they seek help and education from other health workers. Some of the earlier posts were saying that there is nothing that a pre med can learn from a nurse. I was pointing out that there are times that a doctor is learning from a nurse (or a cardiac tech who didn't go to school) and that if a doctor can learn from a nurse, then a pre med can certainly learn from a nurse, and that there will be a long fall from that high horse if you are already assuming as a pre med that you know more than everyone.
 
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I wish you were right. Now most docs can read an EKG fine. But I have had those that I hand the EKG to and they try to hand it back and ask me how to read it.

Actually, I HAVE had MDs ask me to read EKGs.....which was rich, because it when I was on a nontele floor, where very few of the staff had any indepth training on reading them.

Not all EKG machines have autodiagnosis and the read by the machine is not always accurate.
 
I wish you were right. Now most docs can read an EKG fine. But I have had those that I hand the EKG to and they try to hand it back and ask me how to read it.

Actually, I HAVE had MDs ask me to read EKGs.....which was rich, because it when I was on a nontele floor, where very few of the staff had any indepth training on reading them.

Not all EKG machines have autodiagnosis and the read by the machine is not always accurate.
 
again, that's extremely hard to believe for a couple of reasons... first, the new EKG machines these days have autodiagnosis, and second, well, it's just EKG. even nurses read EKGs.

First, I can tell you from experience, that not all EKG machines have autodiagnose.

Second, it is not that unusual to have autodiagnosis that is incorrect.

Third, back in my medsurg years, I frequently had MDs that would ask for a stat EKG, and when I handed it to them, asked me to read it. Ironically, this was on a NONTELE floor...where few of the staff had read a strip since nursing school.
 
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