shadowing hour verification

[Munchy]

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Hi,
As you all know, shadowing is one of the essential things that you must do in order to get in.

My question is, how to schools actually verify your hours?
In ADDSAS application, it asks for dental experience, but hell, anyone could lie if they wanted to.

Is there something in secondary apps that I am not aware of?

I am getting a reference letter from a dentist which will include my 60 shadowing hours, but will the letter itself be sufficient? I am asking b/c my dentist is leaving the country for the summer and he wants to know if there is anything else he needs to do for the completion of my application.

Thanks

 

[SuperTank]

Hi,
As you all know, shadowing is one of the essential things that you must do in order to get in.

My question is, how to schools actually verify your hours?
In ADDSAS application, it asks for dental experience, but hell, anyone could lie if they wanted to.

Is there something in secondary apps that I am not aware of?

I am getting a reference letter from a dentist which will include my 60 shadowing hours, but will the letter itself be sufficient? I am asking b/c my dentist is leaving the country for the summer and he wants to know if there is anything else he needs to do for the completion of my application.

Thanks

Anyone can lie and say whatever they want. The easiest way for them to confirm if you did it is they might ask about your experience in interviews, and that could give you away. If your application is sending up red flags for some reason, they might request additional documentation. But, if you did the hours you said you did, you don't need to worry.

 

[flyingforever]

Anyone can lie and say whatever they want. The easiest way for them to confirm if you did it is they might ask about your experience in interviews, and that could give you away. If your application is sending up red flags for some reason, they might request additional documentation. But, if you did the hours you said you did, you don't need to worry.

I heard they can call the dentist office and ask whether this person has completed that many hours.

 

[lippy104]

Yea I'm pretty sure it's based on the honor system mostly. I know Ohio state requires 20 hours of shadowing before you can be considered, and even being a school that requires hours they only make you fill out a form and don't even require signatures from dentists or anything.

 

[sfrice80]

A lot of schools will require a letter signed by the dentist verifying the amount of hours you listed after you are accepted. Mine did.

 

[flyingforever]

A lot of schools will require a letter signed by the dentist verifying the amount of hours you listed after you are accepted. Mine did.

Really? Couldn't believe it. 😱

 

[americanpierg]

Really? Couldn't believe it. 😱

lol by "a lot" he means like 4.

 

[sfrice80]

I don't have time to go through each website and count but I feel like a good number of them will either require it before interview or after acceptance. I'm sure its over 4 but I won't argue specific numbers. Bottom line.....don't be deceitful!

 

[Munchy]

wow thanks for the quick and good replies everyone... this forum is more useful than those people on the phone for ADDSAS. There was this Indian lady who just could not understand my question.... sigh....

Anyways... the bottom line is:
As far as the application goes, the hours are based on honor system, which means you don;t need to send in any documentation for the shadowing.
-but it is possible that they could ask for it at a later date.

Just another question.
Are there are schools that require a LOR from a dentist? B/c if it is not necessary for me to verify the hours, I'd rather have another professor write me LOR as he knows me much more.

 

[BioSeven]

I don't have time to go through each website and count but I feel like a good number of them will either require it before interview or after acceptance. I'm sure its over 4 but I won't argue specific numbers. Bottom line.....don't be deceitful!

If this is true then I'm screwed. One of the dentist I shadowed told me that he will not write a letter for me. This also happens to be where I spent most of my time. FML.

 

[sfrice80]

If this is true then I'm screwed. One of the dentist I shadowed told me that he will not write a letter for me. This also happens to be where I spent most of my time. FML.

Why in the world did he say that he wouldn't write a letter? Did he catch you inhaling NO or what?

 

[BioSeven]

Why in the world did he say that he wouldn't write a letter? Did he catch you inhaling NO or what?

It's not really a problem. He runs a popular program for pre-dents and if he'd agree to write letters for all of them then he'd be too busy to practice dentistry.

 

[DoctreDrey]

If this is true then I'm screwed. One of the dentist I shadowed told me that he will not write a letter for me. This also happens to be where I spent most of my time. FML.

lol, i can imagine the dentist going: "BioSeven, I am more than happy to have you shadow me, for as many hours as you please. I will even take you under my wing and teach you what it really means to be a dentist.... but i REFUSE TO WRITE YOU A LETTER!!! ARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!"

 

[BioSeven]

lol, i can imagine the dentist going: "BioSeven, I am more than happy to have you shadow me, for as many hours as you please. I will even take you under my wing and teach you what it really means to be a dentist.... but i REFUSE TO WRITE YOU A LETTER!!! ARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!"

LOL. It wasn't that bad 🙂

 

[threeblindmice]

Yes people can and do lie on their hours. Three acquaintances of mine got together and planned that with each of their dads being dentists they agreed to put 100+ hours shadowing each others' dads even though they didn't actually do it. The dads agreed to it because their sons got something out of it by putting over 200 hours on their own apps. So if the schools call and ask him he'll say yes. If the students are asked in an interview it probably isn't too hard to make up something since shadowing you see the same thing over and over again. Just to pass an interview question they did shadow their own dad for a day or two so they'd have something to say.

 

[Lane138]

Yes people can and do lie on their hours. Three acquaintances of mine got together and planned that with each of their dads being dentists they agreed to put 100+ hours shadowing each others' dads even though they didn't actually do it. The dads agreed to it because their sons got something out of it by putting over 200 hours on their own apps. So if the schools call and ask him he'll say yes. If the students are asked in an interview it probably isn't too hard to make up something since shadowing you see the same thing over and over again. Just to pass an interview question they did shadow their own dad for a day or two so they'd have something to say.

That's effin terrible..... sadly I know people who do things like that too.