Should I call out my professor?

[Necr0sis713]

Hey guys, i'm sort of in a rut:

I just had an orgo lab practical.We had to synthesize a chemical (luminol) and then see if it glew in the dark. I decided to take my time and be very slow and steady with my procedure, and I ended up taking very long. The teacher had a 5 point penalty if we were late. However, I LITERALLY finished RIGHT on time, like...I was running to my desk to...essentially finish...right when the timer ended. I was perhaps late by 30 seconds at most.

I kinda feel like my professor is mad because i'm that annoying student who tries to scrape points here and there by contesting my grades. My TA is notorious for grading the entire class like a bich, so I kind of do it on behalf of all my classmates because they all get chitty grades from the TA. She accused me of arguing with her that day, when I pretty much was just constructively and calmly asking her questions, and she snapped and told me she wasn't going to argue with me.

Now...i'm scared that i'm gonna lose those 5 points, even though it was literally at most 30 seconds over or even less. The thing is, when I was going into the room for my test to see if my chemical glowed in the dark, I overheard her talking to the previous student explaining why he ****ed up and his chemical glew for only 12-15 seconds (it had to glow for atleast 20 seconds for full credit). Meanwhile, my chemical glowed for the full 20 seconds, so I rightfully earned the full credit.

I just so happened to run into the kid today, and he told me the professor gave him full credit, even though his chemical didn't glow the entire time. Now...If I get the 5 point penalty for being like 20-30 seconds over, would it be a chitty thing for me to do to call her out and ask her why she gave the kid full credit when his chemical didn't glow the entire time. She essentially gave him 3-5 points.

Would it be chitty, or totally justified?

Cliffs:
I had a lab practical (exam) with a time limit. I finished literally exactly when the timer was done, I was just locking up my glassware, so that maybe took about 20-30 seconds after I finished.
I'm worried i'm gonna lose those points for the time limit.
Meanwhile, professor pretty much gives full credit to a kid who's chemical didn't glow for the full 20 seconds, while mine did.
Should I call her out on it?

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[The Knife & Gun Club]

Dont bring other students into the argument. Maybe ask to speak privately and be respectful

 

[Lannister]

Dude...it's 5 points. Out of how many, 50, 100? Don't argue. You were late, the policy is that if you're late, you get 5 points off.
And you're lucky you're even allowed to stay in the lab once time is up, at my school when the 3 hours are up, we're done.

 

[Glazedonutlove]

I mean is the 5pts going to bring your grade down significantly? Also, stop being the annoying kid (your words) and do the work

 

[thatwouldbeanarchy]

I see your point but I can't imagine your prof reacting positively to your bringing up another student's grade. If it were me, I'd probably let it go since it's only 5 points. But if you do decide to bring it up with the prof, leave the other student's grade out of it. I guarantee you that's only going to piss your professor off. They'll more than likely react defensively, which isn't going to help your efforts.

 

[Chelsea FC]

I think you are failing to see the teachable lesson here. Being successful in school and life isnt just getting the work done its also knowing how to be sociable and how to be a people person. Getting along with people is just as important as doing the work. The real winner here is your friend who still got the points even if he wasnt perfect in the lab

 

[Glandzburg]

Pick your battles. Is it really worth escalating this over 5 points?

At least you could seal your fate as "that guy" that argues for every last point. Definitely not a label you want.

 

[Necr0sis713]

I considered that I might just piss her off even more. The thing is, it would really be unfair if she let that slide, considering it was the whole point of the experiment. Yeah, I took long but that's because I thought it would be better to take my time and didn't realize how fast time was flying by. I actually got some really good product, that rightfully earned the full credit on the luminescence part of the experiment. It's only 5 points...but damn, I kinda feel like it would be unfair to grant a student a favor while totally dismissing, my rather minuscule 30 seconds I spent putting glasswear in my droor. I might actually be on the border of a B and an A at this point...those points may really help.

 

[Chelsea FC]

By sophomore year I had beers with every professor in the lab and they would even come to me to test the pulse of how the student body was feeling. This made classes and my remaining years at school super comfortable and fun

 

[efle]

This kind of **** right here is why premeds have a bad reputation!

They have to draw a hard deadline somewhere, missing it by even 30 seconds justifies the deduction. You could complain about the other student getting some slack but is getting him screwed over too going to make you feel any better?

 

[thatwouldbeanarchy]

I considered that I might just piss her off even more. The thing is, it would really be unfair if she let that slide, considering it was the whole point of the experiment. Yeah, I took long but that's because I thought it would be better to take my time and didn't realize how fast time was flying by. I actually got some really good product, that rightfully earned the full credit on the luminescence part of the experiment. It's only 5 points...but damn, I kinda feel like it would be unfair to grant a student a favor while totally dismissing, my rather minuscule 30 seconds I spent putting glasswear in my droor.

I don't know, man. I get that you wanted to take your time but you knew it was a timed experiment, right? Personally, I've never had timed experiments in any of my labs and it seems kind of silly but if you knew those were the rules, why'd you decide that it was better to take your time? In the end, 5 points is pretty measly and it sounds like maybe you disregarded the directions a bit.

 

[Necr0sis713]

This kind of **** right here is why premeds have a bad reputation!

They have to draw a hard deadline somewhere, missing it by even 30 seconds justifies the deduction. You could complain about the other student getting some slack but is getting him screwed over too going to make you feel any better?

I would really feel bad if he got screwed over... but the fact that I have a chance of getting my points back is making me really consider it considering I might be on the border of an A and B now.

 

[Doctoblast]

All this over 5 points on a practical that is probably worth at least 50 points? Let it go. You were late. Life isn't fair. You admitted to being that annoying student so at least you recognize that. Now take the steps to grow as a person and learn to let things go because sometimes in life things are not going to go your way.

 

[Glandzburg]

I considered that I might just piss her off even more. The thing is, it would really be unfair if she let that slide, considering it was the whole point of the experiment. Yeah, I took long but that's because I thought it would be better to take my time and didn't realize how fast time was flying by. I actually got some really good product, that rightfully earned the full credit on the luminescence part of the experiment. It's only 5 points...but damn, I kinda feel like it would be unfair to grant a student a favor while totally dismissing, my rather minuscule 30 seconds I spent putting glasswear in my droor.

If you are really this worked up about the "unfairness" of these 5 points, you are going to love the subjective grading during the 3rd and 4th year of medical school... /sarcasm

 

[Terry Toma]

You should probably have your parents call the prof to complain. Either that, or just accept that you were late and work a bit faster next time.

 

[efle]

5 points on a single lab is going to swing your grade? Most profs will round you up if you're that close to the line

 

[Lannister]

No one is saying that the other student should have gotten those points when he didn't earn them. The same applies to you.
And you have to be careful bringing other students into the discussion about your grades. In high school I once complained to my teacher that I got a D on my lab report and my lab partner got an A. He looked at them both and turned to my lab partner and said, "Sorry, yours should have been a D as well" and crossed out the A and wrote a D. So it's entirely possible that you'll screw that kid over and won't even help yourself.

 

[Lawpy]

@Goro has the urge to pass through the electrons and smack OP upside the head

I agree with him. No one likes to deal with That Guy who comes into the prof's office arguing over a 95 for not being a 96.

 

[ofthesaints]

"I LITERALLY finished RIGHT on time" followed by "I was perhaps late by 30 seconds at most." 🙄

"My TA is notorious for grading the entire class like a bich, so I kind of do it on behalf of all my classmates because they all get chitty grades from the TA." 🙄

Do your experiment faster next time or prepare for it better and you won't have this problem.

 

[Lawpy]

"I LITERALLY finished RIGHT on time" followed by "I was perhaps late by 30 seconds at most." Way to contradict yourself.

Maybe OP was being a good researcher by including error bars into the time he finished?

 

[Goro]

What part of "submit your results before the deadline" don't you understand?

And it's "glowed on the dark" not "glew in the dark".

Mercifully, at the med school level, I have only seen your kind of grade grubbing in only a tiny number of students. We faculty despise them.

Hey guys, i'm sort of in a rut:

I just had an orgo lab practical.We had to synthesize a chemical (luminol) and then see if it glew in the dark. I decided to take my time and be very slow and steady with my procedure, and I ended up taking very long. The teacher had a 5 point penalty if we were late. However, I LITERALLY finished RIGHT on time, like...I was running to my desk to...essentially finish...right when the timer ended. I was perhaps late by 30 seconds at most.

I kinda feel like my professor is mad because i'm that annoying student who tries to scrape points here and there by contesting my grades. My TA is notorious for grading the entire class like a bich, so I kind of do it on behalf of all my classmates because they all get chitty grades from the TA. She accused me of arguing with her that day, when I pretty much was just constructively and calmly asking her questions, and she snapped and told me she wasn't going to argue with me.

Now...i'm scared that i'm gonna lose those 5 points, even though it was literally at most 30 seconds over or even less. The thing is, when I was going into the room for my test to see if my chemical glowed in the dark, I overheard her talking to the previous student explaining why he ****ed up and his chemical glew for only 12-15 seconds (it had to glow for atleast 20 seconds for full credit). Meanwhile, my chemical glowed for the full 20 seconds, so I rightfully earned the full credit.

I just so happened to run into the kid today, and he told me the professor gave him full credit, even though his chemical didn't glow the entire time. Now...If I get the 5 point penalty for being like 20-30 seconds over, would it be a chitty thing for me to do to call her out and ask her why she gave the kid full credit when his chemical didn't glow the entire time. She essentially gave him 3-5 points.

Would it be chitty, or totally justified?

Cliffs:
I had a lab practical (exam) with a time limit. I finished literally exactly when the timer was done, I was just locking up my glassware, so that maybe took about 20-30 seconds after I finished.
I'm worried i'm gonna lose those points for the time limit.
Meanwhile, professor pretty much gives full credit to a kid who's chemical didn't glow for the full 20 seconds, while mine did.
Should I call her out on it?

 

[NotASerialKiller]

Absolutely tell your professor. Every mark on every assignment could be the difference between becoming a doctor or dealing with the shame of any other career, you have to fight tooth and nail for them. It doesn't matter how many lines you have to cross, friends you have to betray, or children you have to orphan, you'll do what needs to be done if you want to get accepted.

 

[Necr0sis713]

I don't know, man. I get that you wanted to take your time but you knew it was a timed experiment, right? Personally, I've never had timed experiments in any of my labs and it seems kind of silly but if you knew those were the rules, why'd you decide that it was better to take your time? In the end, 5 points is pretty measly and it sounds like maybe you disregarded the directions a bit.

"I LITERALLY finished RIGHT on time" followed by "I was perhaps late by 30 seconds at most." 🙄

"My TA is notorious for grading the entire class like a bich, so I kind of do it on behalf of all my classmates because they all get chitty grades from the TA." 🙄

Do your experiment faster next time or prepare for it better and you won't have this problem.

Well...by Bich I meant that the class average was a D, and was the lowest of all the TA's.

And..The only reason why I even bother to contest by grade is because I essentially follow all of the guidelines on the rubric, and never get the credit. Since my grades are in the hands of the TA's, I feel it's necessary to make the higher ups aware. In fact, the TA mentioned that the head professor of the lab told her to tone it down on the grading. So...it's not just be here grabbing for every point. I simply take the opportunity whenever it arises.

 

[Lannister]

This is why TAs should rotate. When I took ochem we got a new TA every 3-4 labs, so that everyone had the easy TA once and everyone had the hard TA once.

 

[Lawpy]

Absolutely tell your professor. Every mark on every assignment could be the difference between becoming a doctor or dealing with the shame of any other career, you have to fight tooth and nail for them. It doesn't matter how many lines you have to cross, friends you have to betray, or children you have to orphan, you'll do what needs to be done if you want to get accepted.

I can easily see a simplified admissions process: place 500 premeds in a room and wait to see which premed comes out successfully.

 

[efle]

Every mark on every assignment could be the difference between becoming a doctor or dealing with the shame of any other career

I enjoy you immensely.

I hope you write for some school's satirical pub somewhere

Well...by Bich I meant that the class average was a D, and was the lowest of all the TA's.

And..The only reason why I even bother to contest by grade is because I essentially follow all of the guidelines on the rubric, and never get the credit.

When you say average is a D, you mean raw scores in the 60s, or you mean post-curve she is failing most of the class?

If you really are being misgraded (eg. you have written down a temperature value and yet lose points for missing it) can't you submit for regrade by a different person? It's a very bizarre system they have set up for you if you must go to the same person who originally graded you for a regrade

 

[amazing tekkers]

Remember to pace yourself, but at the same time you need to be efficient with your time.

 

[Necr0sis713]

I enjoy you immensely.

I hope you write for some school's satirical pub somewhere


When you say average is a D, you mean raw scores in the 60s, or you mean post-curve she is failing most of the class?

If you really are being misgraded (eg. you have written down a temperature value and yet lose points for missing it) can't you submit for regrade by a different person? It's a very bizarre system they have set up for you if you must go to the same person who originally graded you for a regrade

We can, but I submitted my very first lab report for regrade and I got the same average grade back. Keep in mind, it was my first lab report, so yeah... I deserved that grade. The ****ing dingus TA ( a different one) even wrote "how cute" to one of the comments I made relating a compound's resonance structure to its IR spectra. Lol. After that my professor said I can't do anymore regrades.

And that d average is pre curve. Keep in mind these are lab reports though.... I write her 14 pages on average, just to have her throw it back at me with a C grade.

 

[Lawpy]

We can, but I submitted my very first lab report for regrade and I got the same average grade back. Keep in mind, it was my first lab report, so yeah... I deserved that grade. The ****ing dingus TA ( a different one) even wrote "how cute" to one of the comments I made relating a compound's resonance structure to its IR spectra. Lol. After that my professor said I can't do anymore regrades.

And that d average is pre curve. Keep in mind these are lab reports though.... I write her 14 pages on average, just to have her throw it back at me with a C grade.

Seems like your TA/prof has a thing for you. I should stop by and check out what's up

But really, there is a reason (or many reasons) why you aren't doing well in the lab reports. They are likely outlined as such if you look into it in detail.

 

[RaspberrySlushy]

Take the hit, it's only 5 points and you've prob compensated for that by previous grade grubbing.

You'll lose s lot more points by bringing it up to the TA. Maybe not literal points but you could seal your fate as someone ppl don't want to work with and gain a reputation as that person who doesn't follow rules (lateness) and still wants the points. You don't want to be the person that no one can tolerate working with, and TAs talk, people talk. A bad rep can lead to ppl not wanting to do research with you, not writing favorable LORs, etc.

Social skills and social capital matter, sometimes more than points. If it was a grading error, that's one thing but this isn't (except perhaps that the other student was accidentally granted more credit than technically deserved, which isn't your business). So let it go and work on not being the annoying student. That will matter a lot more in the long run than 5 points on a lab practical.

Also notice that all the advice here that isn't sarcastic is unanimous.

 

[efle]

We can, but I submitted my very first lab report for regrade and I got the same average grade back. Keep in mind, it was my first lab report, so yeah... I deserved that grade. The ****ing dingus TA ( a different one) even wrote "how cute" to one of the comments I made relating a compound's resonance structure to its IR spectra. Lol. After that my professor said I can't do anymore regrades.

And that d average is pre curve. Keep in mind these are lab reports though.... I write her 14 pages on average, just to have her throw it back at me with a C grade.

Well now I want to see the comment! Must have been quite the regrade submission if the professor immediately banned you from ever regrading again

If you're getting C's while the average is D's you aren't really doing poorly. If they're grading looking for a select few specific things, length is only going to hurt you by cluttering things up. Look at the lab reports of some people getting higher grades than yours, do they tend to be a third the length? Do they somehow organize their answers better to help the grader?

 

[Necr0sis713]

I decided that i'm gonna try to ask her to waive my 5 point penalty in her office, without bringing up the student. The guy gives off a friendly vibe, I don't wanna hurt the good man...

Talk about some BS. The fact she literally gave him full credit even though he essentially set up his freakin reaction poorly is totally unjustified.

Yeah...I finished exactly at the dead line, and took like 30 seconds to finish puting my stuff away. I pray to god she won't count mark those 5 points off.

 

[Glandzburg]

I decided that i'm gonna try to ask her to waive my 5 point penalty in her office, without bringing up the student. The guy gives off a friendly vibe, I don't wanna hurt the good man...

Talk about some BS. The fact she literally gave him full credit even though he essentially set up his freakin reaction poorly is totally unjustified.

Yeah...I finished exactly at the dead line, and took like 30 seconds to finish puting my stuff away. I pray to god she won't count mark those 5 points off.

Talk about some BS? I've never heard of anyone getting so fired up over 5 points. Hope it's worth it.

 

[Krupke]

I decided that i'm gonna try to ask her to waive my 5 point penalty in her office, without bringing up the student. The guy gives off a friendly vibe, I don't wanna hurt the good man...

Talk about some BS. The fact she literally gave him full credit even though he essentially set up his freakin reaction poorly is totally unjustified.

Yeah...I finished exactly at the dead line, and took like 30 seconds to finish puting my stuff away. I pray to god she won't count mark those 5 points off.

If you were going to ask about the 5 pts no matter what anyone says, why ask? And did you even get the grade or are you preemptively whining?

Edit: Btdubs, when I was a TA the prof talked about the grade grubber and she told us to deny him a paper extension that several other people received because he was annoying. It will come back to bite you. Only ask for points back if an actual grading mistake was made

 

[FistLength]

Ah yes, premed forums. lol @ mine glowed for 20 seconds his did not
1st world problems x100000000000000000000

 

[MrLogan13]

1 second or 30 seconds, were you late or not? If the practical policy states that you'll lose 5 points for being late then it is fair (whether you believe it is just is another matter).

Also, don't grade grub.

 

[El-Rami]

Instead of scraping for points, why don't you simply try to reevaluate how you do business in lab? One of the lessons you learn in lab (not necessarily something they tell you that you will learn) is how to be efficient and get things done on time. You want to get the best quality work you can produce the most efficient way possible. You don't HAVE to do everything exactly in the manual to get the right yield. For everything I have experienced in undergrad chemistry labs is that you can often fudge on time. The times they give you to mix such and such and let sit is only a guideline.

 

[WedgeDawg]

Wait, have you even figured out whether or not you're going to lose the 5 points in the first place? Absolutely don't bring this up, especially pre-emptively. Honestly, if a student confronted me about something this trivial, I might just take the 5 points of anyway.

Even if you lose the 5 points, this is not worth it. These 5 points are not going to make or break you getting into medical school, I promise. You'll come out looking like a tool to your professor and your TA for a battle you shouldn't even be fighting. Pre-curve D average is not abnormal for organic chemistry in the slightest. In fact, that might even be considered generous. Please, OP, don't fight this one.

Please step back and take a look at the bigger picture here. Being "that guy" is so not worth 5 points. Professors gossip. TAs gossip. Students gossip. This will make you look bad. This might prompt further "unfair" (but actually fair) grading.

If you finished "30 seconds late at most" and they call you on it, you're gonna look even worse. Please don't do this.

 

[MrLogan13]

Go ask for the 5 points back and see how much harder things become for you. No one likes a grade grubber.

If you finished on time, why didn't you submit your results before putting your glassware away if you knew ahead of time that there was a penalty for being late? Late is late.

 

[soadhead]

Are you planning on being the same type of person when you become a physician? Are you going to argue about every mistake you make to make them seem less like mistakes? Or are you going to take responsibility for your actions and strive to be better? I've lost a lot more than 5 points because of mistakes I've made in school, and I didn't badger the professor to give me special treatment.

 

[Necr0sis713]

Go ask for the 5 points back and see how much harder things become for you. No one likes a grade grubber.

If you finished on time, why didn't you submit your results before putting your glassware away if you knew ahead of time that there was a penalty for being late? Late is late.

That's the reason though...that's why i'm torn about this whole thing. I turned in my sheets before the time limit. It was simply a matter of cleaning up. She said I had 30 seconds when I had my last batch of glass wear at the sink to give a good rinse with acetone and water. I hurried my ass up and ran from that point on.

 

[efle]

Gotta say, while I disagree with grubbing over minuscule points, I disagree more with the vindictive "normally I'd allow it but **** this kid for being annoying" attitudes

 

[Doctor Dream]

Hey guys, i'm sort of in a rut:

I just had an orgo lab practical.We had to synthesize a chemical (luminol) and then see if it glew in the dark. I decided to take my time and be very slow and steady with my procedure, and I ended up taking very long. The teacher had a 5 point penalty if we were late. However, I LITERALLY finished RIGHT on time, like...I was running to my desk to...essentially finish...right when the timer ended. I was perhaps late by 30 seconds at most.

I kinda feel like my professor is mad because i'm that annoying student who tries to scrape points here and there by contesting my grades. My TA is notorious for grading the entire class like a bich, so I kind of do it on behalf of all my classmates because they all get chitty grades from the TA. She accused me of arguing with her that day, when I pretty much was just constructively and calmly asking her questions, and she snapped and told me she wasn't going to argue with me.

Now...i'm scared that i'm gonna lose those 5 points, even though it was literally at most 30 seconds over or even less. The thing is, when I was going into the room for my test to see if my chemical glowed in the dark, I overheard her talking to the previous student explaining why he ****ed up and his chemical glew for only 12-15 seconds (it had to glow for atleast 20 seconds for full credit). Meanwhile, my chemical glowed for the full 20 seconds, so I rightfully earned the full credit.

I just so happened to run into the kid today, and he told me the professor gave him full credit, even though his chemical didn't glow the entire time. Now...If I get the 5 point penalty for being like 20-30 seconds over, would it be a chitty thing for me to do to call her out and ask her why she gave the kid full credit when his chemical didn't glow the entire time. She essentially gave him 3-5 points.

Would it be chitty, or totally justified?

Cliffs:
I had a lab practical (exam) with a time limit. I finished literally exactly when the timer was done, I was just locking up my glassware, so that maybe took about 20-30 seconds after I finished.
I'm worried i'm gonna lose those points for the time limit.
Meanwhile, professor pretty much gives full credit to a kid who's chemical didn't glow for the full 20 seconds, while mine did.
Should I call her out on it?

**Glowed
Phew I feel better.
Also, you're only speculating that you lost 5 points right now, so this whole discussion might be moot. I also agree with everyone saying if you did in fact lose points, you probably deserved to for being late. Like others are saying (or sarcastically implying), in the grand scheme of things those five points probably aren't going to mean jack sh** and you just let it go.

 

[WedgeDawg]

Gotta say, while I disagree with grubbing over minuscule points, I disagree more with the vindictive "normally I'd allow it but **** this kid for being annoying" attitudes

I personally don't think what OP wants to do is advisable or acceptable under any but the most extreme circumstances.

 

[Necr0sis713]

Gotta say, while I disagree with grubbing over minuscule points, I disagree more with the vindictive "normally I'd allow it but **** this kid for being annoying" attitudes

My reasoning here is that if she's willing to give a kid miniscule points, even though his compound didn't luminesce for the full 20 seconds; meaning, it wasn't properly synthesized. Hell...he even got a lower yield than me (I know it's lame to bring that up, but i'm just further explaining the situation here). On the other hand, I did my procedure right but just finished...essentially right on time because I decided to embrace every step and really take my time...Then I don't see why I don't deserve those minuscule points too.

This is not simply a matter of "I think I deserve more points". It's the fact that...ok look, if you're going to give the kid points, even though he didn't synthesize the compound properly, I don't see why I can't get my points back for taking a minuscule amount of time longer to put away glass wear.

 

[efle]

I personally don't think what OP wants to do is advisable or acceptable under any but the most extreme circumstances.

I mean, it's annoying...but I'd never punish a kid or grade them more harshly for being annoying. That kind of thing in a TA is what is unacceptable.

 

[235009]

if you weren't an entitled grade-grubbing sociopath the TA probably would've let it slide... but you've already been a pest and made everyone's life miserable. Do yourself a favor and take this as a life lesson. You're not going to get any good LORs with this kind of approach. As someone who is over a decade ahead of you in training I GUARANTEE you that being sociable and having people like you is by far the most important thing to having a successful career... BY FAR.

 

[WedgeDawg]

I mean, it's annoying...but I'd never punish a kid or grade them more harshly for being annoying. That kind of thing in a TA is what is unacceptable.

I think that's up for debate (one which I am not particularly interested in having because I don't care enough), but I understand what you're saying.

 

[Glandzburg]

My reasoning here is that if she's willing to give a kid miniscule points, even though his compound didn't luminesce for the full 20 seconds; meaning, it wasn't properly synthesized. Hell...he even got a lower yield than me (I know it's lame to bring that up, but i'm just further explaining the situation here). On the other hand, I did my procedure right but just finished...essentially right on time because I decided to embrace every step and really take my time...Then I don't see why I don't deserve those minuscule points too.

This is not simply a matter of "I think I deserve more points". It's the fact that...ok look, if you're going to give the kid points, even though he didn't synthesize the compound properly, I don't see why I can't get my points back for taking a minuscule amount of time longer to put away glass wear.

You are entirely missing the point, which is: you are making a huge deal over FIVE points. It's not worth it! This is totally going to bite you in the ***, as several people have already tried to explain to you.

Why make this thread if you weren't going to listen to the advice? Were you just looking for people to support your stance and reassure you that it's a good idea? Because nobody did. Some premeds...

 

[Necr0sis713]

You are entirely missing the point, which is: you are making a huge deal over FIVE points. It's not worth it! This is totally going to bite you in the ***, as several people have already tried to explain to you.

Why make this thread if you weren't going to listen to the advice? Were you just looking for people to support your stance and reassure you that it's a good idea? Because nobody did. Some premeds...

No no I get you...I was just doing a little bit of damage control by clarifying my reasoning. At this point all I can do is just cross my fingers.