Should I drop my B.S./M.D. acceptance?

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I'm assuming they also teach you "better". Lol. An upperclassman that went to my high school dropped his guaranteed program with Rice/Baylor CM after he graduated from Rice and went to Harvard for medical school. Quoting him, "best decision of my life".
I think it makes a difference as to what you learn and where you learn it. There are rankings for a reason...
And it's full tuition lol not a full ride. Alot of B.S./M.D. programs actually offer that to the students they accept from high school (ex. UMiami, URochester, etc. ) so mine isn't the only one.
Spoken like a true high school graduate who probably doesn't know how the loan process works. When you stare at those loans and how much you would have to payback, then you would realize that every amount of free money makes a difference. Free tuition is no joke. Heck you can even brag that you attended med school with free tuition ( since prestige/bragging seems to matter a lot to you). What are the odds that 4 years from now you would even get a full tuition to ANY US med school? Don't use your friend's example as a yardstick for planning your financial future. Staying in Tech tuition free will not prevent you from being a great Physician! This isnt law school we are talking about, its an LCME accredited medical school!
 
Spoken like a true high school graduate who probably doesn't know how the loan process works. When you stare at those loans and how much you would have to payback, then you would realize that every amount of free money makes a difference. Free tuition is no joke. Heck you can even brag that you attended med school with free tuition ( since prestige/bragging seems to matter a lot to you). What are the odds that 4 years from now you would even get a full tuition to ANY US med school? Don't use your friend's example as a yardstick for planning your financial future. Staying in Tech tuition free will not prevent you from being a great Physician! This isnt law school we are talking about, its an LCME accredited medical school!


I agree with this 101.82%
 
Spoken like a true high school graduate who probably doesn't know how the loan process works. When you stare at those loans and how much you would have to payback, then you would realize that every amount of free money makes a difference. Free tuition is no joke. Heck you can even brag that you attended med school with free tuition ( since prestige/bragging seems to matter a lot to you). What are the odds that 4 years from now you would even get a full tuition to ANY US med school? Don't use your friend's example as a yardstick for planning your financial future. Staying in Tech tuition free will not prevent you from being a great Physician! This isnt law school we are talking about, its an LCME accredited medical school!

Umm..yes I'm a high school graduate and I probably know more about how to finance my life better than you. I don't understand what loans you're talking about when the tuition at BCM is $6,500 coming out to around $15,000 per year. And fyi, you cannot continue a scholarship to a medical school without taking an MCAT. You can extend your undergraduate scholarship for possibly MS1 but without an MCAT, you won't recieve anything for the successive years. And as of now, I can't do that. And I don't know what financial crisis you're in but I'm sorry and that sucks but if medical school was truly what you wanted, you'll make it through and be happy in the end.
 
Umm..yes I'm a high school graduate and I probably know more about how to finance my life better than you. I don't understand what loans you're talking about when the tuition at BCM is $6,500 coming out to around $15,000 per year
total resident tuition and fees is $19,868, einstein.

can you imagine the hilarity of a middle schooler trying to explain to you how the world works? that's the current situation. except you're the one being laughed/facepalmed at. wake up son.
 
total resident tuition and fees is $19,868, einstein.

can you imagine the hilarity of a middle schooler trying to explain to you how the world works? that's the current situation. except you're the one being laughed/facepalmed at. wake up son.

Nice..you can pull up a statistic on a website. Have you even been inside BCM?
P.S. This "middle schooler" got into medical school way before you did. Lol Take your attitude somewhere other than my thread. Thanks.
 
total resident tuition and fees is $19,868, einstein.

can you imagine the hilarity of a middle schooler trying to explain to you how the world works? that's the current situation. except you're the one being laughed/facepalmed at. wake up son.
haha exactly! am also surprised OP didnt understand me when I talk about loans. Here is the definition OP: A loan is the money MOST medical school students have to take out in order to pay for the high cost of medical school training. 😀.
 
Nice..you can pull up a statistic on a website. Have you even been inside BCM?
P.S. This "middle schooler" got into medical school way before you did. Lol Take your attitude somewhere other than my thread. Thanks.
an ability you clearly lack.

nice redirect with the p.s., but at least i'm going where i want to go 😉
 
Work your balls off in college and get into the best medical school you're capable of attending, or slack off in college, take the path of least resistance, and get into some school that isn't really the one you'd like to go to? Yeah, I think it's obvious that #1 is probably a better long term decision.
This doesn't make any sense to me. Both paths lead to the same outcome (MD), except one is 100% guaranteed. It's laughable to think that turning down a sure thing is the better option, assuming that the OP is completely certain that he/she wants a career in medicine. I won't say anything beyond this, but I sure hope that OP thinks that your argument is as silly as I think it is.
 
Nice..you can pull up a statistic on a website. Have you even been inside BCM?
P.S. This "middle schooler" got into medical school way before you did. Lol Take your attitude somewhere other than my thread. Thanks.
Don't be a jerk. The people on these forums are trying to help you, and frankly are showing more patience than they need to.
 
I'm thinking $15,000 to "$19,868" is a pretty good deal. I mean 1 year as an undergraduate costs that much too. But anyways, I appreciate the posts! I think I'll end up taking a couple more practice MCATs with Kaplan and if I'm comfortable end up dropping. If not, then oh well.
Thanks for the help everyone!
 
OP do you wanna be a doctor or a med student? If your goal is being a doctor, Tech is better. You don't want to limit your choices because of money. Tech is a decent school, and I'm pretty sure a lot of people with stats better than yours, accepted to even Zlatko SOM with a full tuition 🙂laugh🙂 could get rejected by HMS. There is this european saying that goes "better to have one bird in one hand than to see 2 flying".
 
I'm thinking $15,000 to "$19,868" is a pretty good deal. I mean 1 year as an undergraduate costs that much too. But anyways, I appreciate the posts! I think I'll end up taking a couple more practice MCATs with Kaplan and if I'm comfortable end up dropping. If not, then oh well.
Thanks for the help everyone!
fyi, based on your aforementioned lack of ability to find information, i feel compelled to remind you that that's just the MS1 tuition and fees for BCM.

i can't help but help you, i just take pity on you.
 
Thanks RogueUnicorn...let's aim high. 4 years/$80,000? Just in my opinion and again only talking about me, that's pretty good for medical school as far as I'm concerned.
 
Thanks RogueUnicorn...let's aim high. 4 years/$80,000? Just in my opinion and again only talking about me, that's pretty good for medical school as far as I'm concerned.
average indebtedness of BCM graduates as of 2011 is $91,540 according to USNEWS. when you graduate in 2018(?) you can expect that number to be much higher, given the current rate of tuition inflation (i believe this is ~6% right now, and that would mean, roughly, your indebtedness will be around 130K). let us also not forget you are not even close to guaranteed a spot at BCM, and as i understand (i may be wrong here) they have had some financial issues recently. how that affects future tuition is over my head, however.
 
does baylor hold your school in high regard? if so, then you should attend the program. i see ZERO ways your school could check if you took the mcat...i bet thats probably even illegal or something lol.

what school would you attend if you dropped the program?
 
@RogueUnicorn
Yeah I believe you. But I wouldn't take a loan that's what I've been meaning to say. Thanks.

does baylor hold your school in high regard? if so, then you should attend the program. i see ZERO ways your school could check if you took the mcat...i bet thats probably even illegal or something lol.

what school would you attend if you dropped the program?

Yeah..I was curious about that. When you fill out the TMDAS are you required to report MCAT scores within a certain amount of time. Or can you leave it blank?
And the plan would be for Baylor. It would let me stay with my grandparents in Downtown Houston and keep an eye on them since they're getting old.
 
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@RogueUnicorn
Yeah..I was curious about that. When you fill out the TMDAS are you required to report MCAT scores within a certain amount of time. Or can you leave it blank?
And the plan would be for Baylor. It would let me stay with my grandparents in Downtown Houston and keep an eye on them since they're getting old.

You have to fill out the section about the MCAT before you can submit the application (whether it's a future testing date, current score, etc.).

Also, Baylor uses AMCAS (but the same rules apply).
 
Depends on the school. I was accepted into USC's Ba/MD program but turned it down. After my first year of college, it seems I made the right decision. Not only am I saving tons of money, but given my current academic situation (4.0, 28 on a practice MCAT in Fall), I feel I am on my way to a better medical school than Keck.

However, the decision is yours. The 8-yr program will save you a lot of stress, and stress is something you will become very familiar with in college.


Yea that doesn't mean squat.
 
I understand that it would be easier to stay but thinking in the long-term. It's a known fact that a better medical school leads to better STEP scores and a better chance at getting into selective residencies. For me, it's all about putting myself in a good position for that even though its around 7 years away.

You, sir, are an idiot.
 
You have to fill out the section about the MCAT before you can submit the application (whether it's a future testing date, current score, etc.).

Also, Baylor uses AMCAS (but the same rules apply).

Gotcha, the reason I asked was because if I decided to stay at Tech I would fill out the TMDAS my senior year and on it I would click something called "Special Programs" (idk, that's how it was described to me) which would allow me to submit without an MCAT? I'm curious as to if they would actually check to see if I took one. I know when you're applying to college if you don't send in your SAT/ACT score, there's no way to know if you've taken another SAT/ACT but I don't know if it's the same way for the MCAT.
 
i would go to baylor dude. my best bud gave up an albany BS/MD acceptance (best one he got) and now has a 4.00 and a 42.

gg thread.
 
I'm assuming they also teach you "better". Lol. An upperclassman that went to my high school dropped his guaranteed program with Rice/Baylor CM after he graduated from Rice and went to Harvard for medical school. Quoting him, "best decision of my life".
I think it makes a difference as to what you learn and where you learn it. There are rankings for a reason...
And it's full tuition lol not a full ride. Alot of B.S./M.D. programs actually offer that to the students they accept from high school (ex. UMiami, URochester, etc. ) so mine isn't the only one.

OP, take the bs/md route... rank means nothing, it means how much $ the school receives from NIH. the only benefit you will get from attending a top school is more research opportunities. step scores are all based on the student not the school..you will find out medical school is all self study, no faculty member is going to hold your hand while you memorize every step of krebs cycle or w.e., you need to learn it on your own - same goes with step1. all this info from other premeds is bad, ive been through the process and ive seen the results/stress. applying is stressful, costs a lot of money and even if you get that magical 36 mcat, no guarantees. your interviewer can not like you, maybe your gpa is low, you didnt volunteer enough hours or have enough leadership experiences. all things you can avoid by taking the easy route. you will end up with an md from an lcme accredited school, equivalent to any other US md. and although i cant tell you that its easier to get into bs/md programs than go the traditional route, i have a few med school friends who went that route and they tell me how happy they are they didnt have to jump through all the hoops and bs we traditional applicants had to do. anecdotal yes, but so is the friend who rejected a guaranteed baylor acceptance to enter harvard md/phd :laugh:
 
OP, take the bs/md route... rank means nothing, it means how much $ the school receives from NIH. the only benefit you will get from attending a top school is more research opportunities. step scores are all based on the student not the school..you will find out medical school is all self study, no faculty member is going to hold your hand while you memorize every step of krebs cycle or w.e., you need to learn it on your own - same goes with step1. all this info from other premeds is bad, ive been through the process and ive seen the results/stress. applying is stressful, costs a lot of money and even if you get that magical 36 mcat, no guarantees. your interviewer can not like you, maybe your gpa is low, you didnt volunteer enough hours or have enough leadership experiences. all things you can avoid by taking the easy route. you will end up with an md from an lcme accredited school, equivalent to any other US md. and although i cant tell you that its easier to get into bs/md programs than go the traditional route, i have a few med school friends who went that route and they tell me how happy they are they didnt have to jump through all the hoops and bs we traditional applicants had to do. anecdotal yes, but so is the friend who rejected a guaranteed baylor acceptance to enter harvard md/phd :laugh:

Good point lol. Thanks for your input!
 
Have you read this forum at all? The amount of time and effort and stress people go through during an application cycle just to get into medical school period is astounding. You've been given an opportunity to skip that.

There's no guarantee you'll be as attractive to MD programs at 21 as you were to BS/MD's at 17. A lot can change in four years.
 
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OP I disagree with many of the posters on here. There is no guarantee that you will actually want to be a doctor in four years. People change. People's interests change, and you don't want to be stuck in a school, which you attended solely because of a guaranteed medical acceptance, if you later on decide that you don't want to be a doctor.

The full tuition thing should not even be a point. Getting a full ride to a school is an easy goal to accomplish, if you have the rights stats. Also, over the course of your life, you are going to accrue massive amounts of debt to be a physician. But your experiences are much more important than debt in my opinion.

Applying to medical school is difficult, but the freedom to determine if you actually want to be a doctor and the the ability to change course (without serious regret) are key reasons that I think you should drop the BS/MD program.
 
Nice..you can pull up a statistic on a website. Have you even been inside BCM?
P.S. This "middle schooler" got into medical school way before you did. Lol Take your attitude somewhere other than my thread. Thanks.

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OP I disagree with many of the posters on here. There is no guarantee that you will actually want to be a doctor in four years. People change. People's interests change, and you don't want to be stuck in a school, which you attended solely because of a guaranteed medical acceptance, if you later on decide that you don't want to be a doctor.

The full tuition thing should not even be a point. Getting a full ride to a school is an easy goal to accomplish, if you have the rights stats. Also, over the course of your life, you are going to accrue massive amounts of debt to be a physician. But your experiences are much more important than debt in my opinion.

Applying to medical school is difficult, but the freedom to determine if you actually want to be a doctor and the the ability to change course (without serious regret) are key reasons that I think you should drop the BS/MD program.
yea? where are you getting your full-ride?
 
Go enjoy life. get laid. do something besides post on SDN when you are 18 years young... sheesh lord knows this was the last place I was during my teens. You will soon get the opportunity to be an overachieving nerotic student, don't let it be now
 
The full tuition thing should not even be a point. Getting a full ride to a school is an easy goal to accomplish, if you have the rights stats. Also, over the course of your life, you are going to accrue massive amounts of debt to be a physician. But your experiences are much more important than debt in my opinion.

??? I had great stats, but a full ride is difficult if schools you apply to (regional favorites) don't give full scholarships!

I don't care what decision the OP makes, personally. I just hope he doesn't make it based on his HS GPA, a practice MCAT taken in HS, and the need for prestige. Make this decision based on your confidence in medicine as a career and maybe security in finances/decisions.

All told, none of this advice matters. The hesitation to accept is probably a case of parents want Ivy to tell friends, students wants Ivy to get girls and look good.
 
I was in this situation a long time ago (3 years), and here is what I did. I was accepted to a BS/MD program that would put me 400K in debt. My other option was a state school that would allow me to graduate debt free. While I understood the stress of the application cycle and stuff, I thought that it would be a good challenge for me to go to the state school.

3 years later: I am completely happy with my decision. I am currently debt free, a 3.9 GPA, all the volunteering and EC's, and won the Goldwater scholarship and have been nominated for the Rhodes.

Sounds good right? Not completely. I seriously underestimated the process. I thought, based of my good HS standardized scores that I would rock the MCAT. The MCAT is no joke, and even if you are scoring well on practice that in no means guarantees a good score on the real thing.

Sometimes I think back to if I made the right call. In my case, yes I did. I didn't want to swamp myself in debt, especially at that early age. HOWEVER, if it was a debt free option I would take it hands down and stick with it. Going to college and not worrying about debt is awesome - and while I had great experiences at my state school, I am sure they apply everywhere.

Tl;dr - stay in the program young one, and fly into the beautiful field of medicine from Texas Tech with no debt.
 
OP I disagree with many of the posters on here. There is no guarantee that you will actually want to be a doctor in four years. People change. People's interests change, and you don't want to be stuck in a school, which you attended solely because of a guaranteed medical acceptance, if you later on decide that you don't want to be a doctor.

The full tuition thing should not even be a point. Getting a full ride to a school is an easy goal to accomplish, if you have the rights stats. Also, over the course of your life, you are going to accrue massive amounts of debt to be a physician. But your experiences are much more important than debt in my opinion.

Applying to medical school is difficult, but the freedom to determine if you actually want to be a doctor and the the ability to change course (without serious regret) are key reasons that I think you should drop the BS/MD program.

Do tell, what are the right stats?
 
You know the saying that youth is wasted on the young? Well, case in point. It's frustrating explaining a process to someone who's never been through the process to appreciate what they actually have. This must be what parenting feels like... :laugh:
 
You know the saying that youth is wasted on the young? Well, case in point. It's frustrating explaining a process to someone who's never been through the process to appreciate what they actually have. This must be what parenting feels like... :laugh:

I do this everyday with HS students. Its like hitting my head against a brick wall. So short-sighted and status-driven.. or should I say hormone-driven?
 
OP I disagree with many of the posters on here. There is no guarantee that you will actually want to be a doctor in four years. People change. People's interests change, and you don't want to be stuck in a school, which you attended solely because of a guaranteed medical acceptance, if you later on decide that you don't want to be a doctor.

The full tuition thing should not even be a point. Getting a full ride to a school is an easy goal to accomplish, if you have the rights stats. Also, over the course of your life, you are going to accrue massive amounts of debt to be a physician. But your experiences are much more important than debt in my opinion.

Applying to medical school is difficult, but the freedom to determine if you actually want to be a doctor and the the ability to change course (without serious regret) are key reasons that I think you should drop the BS/MD program.

First of all, the bolded is not true.

Secondly, if he decides that he doesn't want to be a doctor, he can drop the program after the 3-4 years of the undergrad portion without any significant debt. He has plenty of time to see if medical school is the right path for him. What is your point here? Why is the fact that he might change his mind later a reason to drop from the program now?

To OP:

I'd suggest you go talk to some young physicians and pre-med advisors about your decision.

I personally think that giving up a guaranteed acceptance to a school where you will graduate with very little debt is foolish. You'd be giving up the opportunity to avoid 3 years of hoop jumping, the MCAT, and a stressful, expensive application cycle. The people telling you to drop probably haven't gone through all of this yet.

Given the fact that you were accepted to BS/MD, there is a very high chance that you'd into medical school again. Whether you'd get into Baylor specifically, that's a toss up. Even the superstar applicants end up with a nice list of schools that rejected them in the end.
 
First of all, the bolded is not true.

Secondly, if he decides that he doesn't want to be a doctor, he can drop the program after the 3-4 years of the undergrad portion without any significant debt. He has plenty of time to see if medical school is the right path for him. What is your point here? Why is the fact that he might change his mind later a reason to drop from the program now?

To OP:

I'd suggest you go talk to some young physicians and pre-med advisors about your decision.

I personally think that giving up a guaranteed acceptance to a school where you will graduate with very little debt is foolish. You'd be giving up the opportunity to avoid 3 years of hoop jumping, the MCAT, and a stressful, expensive application cycle. The people telling you to drop probably haven't gone through all of this yet.

Given the fact that you were accepted to BS/MD, there is a very high chance that you'd into medical school again. Whether you'd get into Baylor specifically, that's a toss up. Even the superstar applicants end up with a nice list of schools that rejected them in the end.

Dropping the program and finding a normal job (that pays as well as primary care) isn't easy without a good degree after your name (read: good GPA with prestigious degree, not good GPA at pos state bs/md program).
 
can i have your spot if you drop the program? An old "switcheroo" ...i promise you can take the mcat and pay for all the primaries/secondaries!
 
can i have your spot if you drop the program? An old "switcheroo" ...i promise you can take the mcat and pay for all the primaries/secondaries!

lol, I already relinquished my spot in the program I was in
 
Appreciate the posts!
The reason why I started the thread in the first place was because in the best case scenario Baylor, UTMB, UTHouston, maybe even UTSouthwestern were looking good to me over my current situation. Meaning, it's closer to home and the costs were all equaling out. Ex. $15,000 + living costs at Lubbock = $20, 000 at Baylor + (no living costs) in Houston/Galveston. However, seeing juniors and seniors take the MCAT during the past year at college definitely put some doubts in my mind. The general consensus on the thread has been that the process is pretty bad and everyone is right the MCAT is a hard test. Definitely given me a lot to think about.
 
Appreciate the posts!
The reason why I started the thread in the first place was because in the best case scenario Baylor, UTMB, UTHouston, maybe even UTSouthwestern were looking good to me over my current situation. Meaning, it's closer to home and the costs were all equaling out. Ex. $15,000 + living costs at Lubbock = $20, 000 at Baylor + (no living costs) in Houston/Galveston. However, seeing juniors and seniors take the MCAT during the past year at college definitely put some doubts in my mind. The general consensus on the thread has been that the process is pretty bad and everyone is right the MCAT is a hard test. Definitely given me a lot to think about.


Good~! A lot of people come on here not looking for advice but just to hear their viewpoint
 
I can't believe you would WANT to live with your parents in med school by picking Baylor if you had the chance, lol

Talk about a less than ideal situation
 
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