Should I just give up??

[kvpatel]

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I've had to take Gen. Bio twice.. best grade : C
Gen bio 2 ..this will be my third time taking it.. first two tries : D
Gen Chem 1 : I've had to take it twice ..best grade: C
Gen Chem 2 : I might get a C in there this semester..


I just finished my soph. year. My junior year I have ..Physics and Organic.. along with 2 upper-level bio courses.. I am going to be working my ass off to make As..but my prior grades says I'll end up ****ing up.


What are my realistic chances of even getting into any pod. program? Be honest..I am ready..

 

[dropfoot]

I've had to take Gen. Bio twice.. best grade : C
Gen bio 2 ..this will be my third time taking it.. first two tries : D
Gen Chem 1 : I've had to take it twice ..best grade: C
Gen Chem 2 : I might get a C in there this semester..


I just finished my soph. year. My junior year I have ..Physics and Organic.. along with 2 upper-level bio courses.. I am going to be working my ass off to make As..but my prior grades says I'll end up ****ing up.


What are my realistic chances of even getting into any pod. program? Be honest..I am ready..

My advice to you as an older non traditional student is to take these core classes to you get them. Look, there really is no rush here (it is a long life); If you are getting C's in these classes on the second and third attempt than you are still not grasping the material. And, if you do not grasp Gen Chem and Gen Bio, you are not going to grasp Ochem, Bio Chem, Genetics and any other upper level science course. I would recommend taking Gen Chem and Bio by themselves, maybe during the summer. Do not give up if this is what you really want because you will regret it for the rest of your life.

 

[kvpatel]

My advice to you as an older non traditional student is to take these core classes to you get them. Look, there really is no rush here (it is a long life); If you are getting C's in these classes on the second and third attempt than you are still not grasping the material. And, if you do not grasp Gen Chem and Gen Bio, you are not going to grasp Ochem, Bio Chem, Genetics and any other upper level science course. I would recommend taking Gen Chem and Bio by themselves, maybe during the summer. Do not give up if this is what you really want because you will regret it for the rest of your life.

Good advice, but my GPA is so low right now that I dont know if I would even be considered into any kind of health programs. My GPA right now is 2.58 overall and 2.14 Sci/Math... IFFFF I make As on the rest of my pre pod classes I will be looking at around a 3.1..

 

[dyk343]

Good advice, but my GPA is so low right now that I dont know if I would even be considered into any kind of health programs. My GPA right now is 2.58 overall and 2.14 Sci/Math... IFFFF I make As on the rest of my pre pod classes I will be looking at around a 3.1..

I don't have any advice on whether or not you will get into schools or not but I can give you advice on raising your gpa.

1. Eat healthy. Wings, beer, wings, then a burrito followed by two more beers don't help you when it comes to studying. Detox yourself. (not to say you can't go out and splurge every now and then but if you have an exam next week... I wouldn't recommend it)

2. Exercise. I didn't do so well my first couple semesters because for one I didnt know how to study yet, and two I just didn't exercise. Go out and jog a few miles then try to study afterwards, it really makes a big difference. Again... detox yourself.

3. study habits. Don't sit down and try to study everything all the way through. Get up once an hour or so and take a 10 minute walk outside or just relax. Then hit the books again

4. study habits. Go over 10 pages of notes. Then close your notes and write down EVERYTHING you remember... Try to apply it in a logical orderly manner. If you absolutely can't remember something, keep going and write down everything else you remember... THEN go back and check what you didn't recall. Repeat this until you can confidently regurgitate everything. good advice on getting good grades is memorizing the small stuff (proteins, genes, etc) and understanding the main topics

5. PUT THE TIME IN TO STUDY. It takes time, good grades = long hours.

Hope this will help you. It has turned me from a C/B student to a straight A student. Good luck.

 

[Darklord]

Learn to study. That's the best advice I can give you. By retaking those classes twice, have you gotten any insight as to why you are not doing well? Learning is difficult you have to keep on trying different methods to keep yourself engaged. It is a constant self improvement process. Don't give up. You've invested too much into this already. You have to keep on trying different methods until you find out what works best for you.

 

[kvpatel]

After listening to the responses in this thread i've decided that I cant let my dreams go to waste..I'll work harder and harder for the next 2-3 years till I accomplish something. I need to be stop being lazy and put in the time and dedication that's required to be successful in this field. It's not the fact that I cant do it, it was just that I was a lazy ******* who liked to sit around and watch TV instead of cracking open a book.


Things will change.

 

[Darklord]

Will power bhai. Try to make the library your friend. 🙂 It will motivate you to study. Shadowing and seeing the life of a practicing physician will also help a lot (though there are some failures of doctors out there 🙄).
(A funny thing to do is see doctors with their licenses revoked or wanted on the DEAs site).

 

[215512]

you should give up

 

[miller4362]

I would say give up. If you cant grasp the material in undergrad you're not gonna be able to grasp it in pod school. Unless you do some kinda crazy 180 and get real smart your chances for success seem slim to me. Not that I'm an expert or anything. Plus, where do you end up with a residency if you compete with students who all got A's on their first tries in undergrad. Could be tough. It would be cool to see you do it though.

 

[tmoney]

After listening to the responses in this thread i've decided that I cant let my dreams go to waste..I'll work harder and harder for the next 2-3 years till I accomplish something. I need to be stop being lazy and put in the time and dedication that's required to be successful in this field. It's not the fact that I cant do it, it was just that I was a lazy ******* who liked to sit around and watch TV instead of cracking open a book.


Things will change.

well there you go. you recognized that garbage in = garbage out. if I was in your situation I would do the following:

Audit (just go and sit in w/o paying money) those classes this summer at a community college or other college near you this summer. Hell, depending on your situation, you can even pay the money and take them for a grade, just to make it clear to you that you can seriously handle the material. Don't sit at home this summer and assume that you will be able to successfully take organic chem, physics, and the MCAT without learning the former classes/learning how to actually study.

See where you are at after summer is over. If you are currently a biochemistry or astrophysics or something ridiculous major, consider majoring in something lighter that will both capture your interest and insure that you receive good grades... then you will have more time for your science classes. Consider staying an extra semester or an extra year or stay over one of your summer breaks to take some more science classes to bump your science GPA up. After you take orgo I/II and physics I/II... take science classes that interest you, and you feel you will succeed in. If invertebrate biology isn't your thing, take ecology etc etc. Also remember that on the AACPM or whatever it is website, a lot of other classes that you wouldnt normally think count as science actually do count, like archaeology, physical anthropology, nutrition etc.

Cater your remaining education to yourself, in order to insure that you can succeed. If you are just a huge slacker and really truly 100% know that to be true, then you should be fine once you kick it in to high gear. It may take longer, but you will do well on your MCAT and get the foundation of study/life skills that is what a premed curriculum is designed for.

 

[tmoney]

just a tangent-- since I see an insanely high amount of these threads.

When I was an undergrad I saw plenty of naturally intellegent people who wanted to become doctors, and could have, but allowed outside forces to inhibit them. This is my ideas on how to succeed at being a pre-health professional student...directed to all the first year undergrads and high school students lurking around secretly reading the forums:

When you go to college, understand that it is perfectly find to have fun.. a lot. But realize (this isnt directed to the OP, so dont take offense) that alcohol ruins your damn brain and if you dont take it easy, you're going to be in a fog for 4 years.

You dont have to be a biology or chemistry major and take the 5 hardest science classes a semester and be a ridiculous gunner in order to be a successful applicant.

If you are interested in politics and sit home and watch youtube clips of silly congress all day, be a Political science major, or if you love reading and writing, be a friggin english major-- those things may possibly come innately easy to you, and you wont have to spend much time studying... saves you time for your 1-2 science classes a semester for your first year or two. Boom, you still have time to hang out with your friends and learn how to be a social creature.

After you have learned how to study, take a few upper level science electives when you're a junior/senior. A's in those will tend to overshadow that B- in general bio I.

take a bunch of practice MCAT tests... a bunch. If you cant consistently crack a 24, take a class or something.

 

[kvpatel]

well there you go. you recognized that garbage in = garbage out. if I was in your situation I would do the following:

Audit (just go and sit in w/o paying money) those classes this summer at a community college or other college near you this summer. Hell, depending on your situation, you can even pay the money and take them for a grade, just to make it clear to you that you can seriously handle the material. Don't sit at home this summer and assume that you will be able to successfully take organic chem, physics, and the MCAT without learning the former classes/learning how to actually study.

See where you are at after summer is over. If you are currently a biochemistry or astrophysics or something ridiculous major, consider majoring in something lighter that will both capture your interest and insure that you receive good grades... then you will have more time for your science classes. Consider staying an extra semester or an extra year or stay over one of your summer breaks to take some more science classes to bump your science GPA up. After you take orgo I/II and physics I/II... take science classes that interest you, and you feel you will succeed in. If invertebrate biology isn't your thing, take ecology etc etc. Also remember that on the AACPM or whatever it is website, a lot of other classes that you wouldnt normally think count as science actually do count, like archaeology, physical anthropology, nutrition etc.

Cater your remaining education to yourself, in order to insure that you can succeed. If you are just a huge slacker and really truly 100% know that to be true, then you should be fine once you kick it in to high gear. It may take longer, but you will do well on your MCAT and get the foundation of study/life skills that is what a premed curriculum is designed for.

What I am doing this summer is taking two liberal arts classes one summer term ..( psych and hist.) and then second summer term I am taking gen bio 2 and gen chem 2..

then for fall semester I am enrolled in
1. Organic
2. Physics
3. Botany (easy bio elective) (supposedly..lol)
4. Spanish anddd
5. another liberal arts class..


I am going to get my **** together and really try and make As this summer term and Fall..

 

[dyk343]

What I am doing this summer is taking two liberal arts classes one summer term ..( psych and hist.) and then second summer term I am taking gen bio 2 and gen chem 2..

then for fall semester I am enrolled in
1. Organic
2. Physics
3. Botany (easy bio elective) (supposedly..lol)
4. Spanish anddd
5. another liberal arts class..


I am going to get my **** together and really try and make As this summer term and Fall..

Drop the liberal arts course (#5). You need to learn how to study before you push 15 credits. Only take 12 or whatever the minimum is to be a full time student. In your case I wouldn't rush. You haven't learned how to study yet.

Spanish requires time, organic requires A LOT of time, and physics just sucks. I personally thought physics I/II was a lot harder than gen chem I/II and you havent done well in chem so your in for a heafty semester.

Also, dont go into botany thinking that its a walk in the park. You will walk out of the park with a C with that thinking.

 

[kvpatel]

Drop the liberal arts course (#5). You need to learn how to study before you push 15 credits. Only take 12 or whatever the minimum is to be a full time student. In your case I wouldn't rush. You haven't learned how to study yet.

Spanish requires time, organic requires A LOT of time, and physics just sucks. I personally thought physics I/II was a lot harder than gen chem I/II and you havent done well in chem so your in for a heafty semester.

Also, dont go into botany thinking that its a walk in the park. You will walk out of the park with a C with that thinking.

Trust me ..from here on out I will not go into any class thinking it's going to be a walk in the park. I will most likely end up dropping the liberal arts sometime soon. I am not going to rush getting in my degree requirements as much as getting in the org/physics.. just because I am going to have to start preparing for MCAT soon and I can't slack off and keep putting off those premed requirements.

 

[dyk343]

Trust me ..from here on out I will not go into any class thinking it's going to be a walk in the park. I will most likely end up dropping the liberal arts sometime soon. I am not going to rush getting in my degree requirements as much as getting in the org/physics.. just because I am going to have to start preparing for MCAT soon and I can't slack off and keep putting off those premed requirements.

Good luck, and remember... A healthy mind is a healthy body.

detox! <--- i sound like a health nut (im not)... but believe me it makes a world of difference. During non exam times I splurge and have fun. But exam week/week before... im drinking V8, eating salads, chicken breasts, exercising, etc, etc...

 

[kvpatel]

Good luck, and remember... A healthy mind is a healthy body.

detox! <--- i sound like a health nut (im not)... but believe me it makes a world of difference. During non exam times I splurge and have fun. But exam week/week before... im drinking V8, eating salads, chicken breasts, exercising, etc, etc...

Believe me when I say this..I will listen to you .. haha I've found a couple of cool role models on these forums. Maybe one day you'll see a thread by me with the title "..just got into a pod. school any tips?".. something like that lol

 

[capo]

Don't quit or ever give up. If you wanted it bad enough you'll find a way. Even if find a study partner (make then better than you, so you can learn FROM them) and talk to profs after class or do extra credit. There are SO many ways to boost grades, even if you need to retake classes at a Comm Coll in summers. Or audit them here and there.

Just remember if you want it bad enough and if there's a will, there's a way. Just plug along til you catch on, even if it means reapplying 5 or 6 times. Adcoms want to see heart and desire for the field as much as raw talent. Nothing is easy. Absolutely ANY ENDEAVOUR worthwhile, isn't even fathomable to most when they first start. It begins as a journey toward a pipe dream, and can end as a reality of a huge obstacle overcome and an achievement gained. 🙂

Go for it buddy! 👍

 

[Sabin]

I've had to take Gen. Bio twice.. best grade : C
Gen bio 2 ..this will be my third time taking it.. first two tries : D
Gen Chem 1 : I've had to take it twice ..best grade: C
Gen Chem 2 : I might get a C in there this semester..


I just finished my soph. year. My junior year I have ..Physics and Organic.. along with 2 upper-level bio courses.. I am going to be working my ass off to make As..but my prior grades says I'll end up ****ing up.


What are my realistic chances of even getting into any pod. program? Be honest..I am ready..

Good luck to you! You can do it if you really apply yourself!

 

[chober]

Why are you getting those types of grades? too hard? teachers are mean? Not studying at all?

 

[zloetakoe]

I'd sit down and have a very (VERY) serious heart to heart as to why you want to go into health care. If it's something you're going to be very passionate about and somehow you know you will love what you're going to be doing till the day you die then keep trying.

If money/prestige or some other tangential benefit is what is motivating you, you may want to reconsider. There are much easier ways to get all that other stuff.

 

[phillypd]

Dear kvpatel,
Honestly, if you thought gen chem was hard...wait till you hit physics....it is alot more calculations..and more work....I thought it was the worst class ever......when you do take it, don't take alot of classes that same semester. I spent sooooo much time studying for physics i thought i was going crazy! Others in the class had no problems...but i struggled alot...I had a tutor that i seen twice a week..and some days we would eat dinner together because we was there so long...i called him on the weekends also...it was worth the headache...i got a "B" which was good enough for me..I studied physics so long that i doubled my score in the PS section of the MCATwhen i retook it... and it was my highest section also..😛

 

[dyk343]

Dear kvpatel,
Honestly, if you thought gen chem was hard...wait till you hit physics....it is alot more calculations..and more work....I thought it was the worst class ever......when you do take it, don't take alot of classes that same semester. I spent sooooo much time studying for physics i thought i was going crazy! Others in the class had no problems...but i struggled alot...I had a tutor that i seen twice a week..and some days we would eat dinner together because we was there so long...i called him on the weekends also...it was worth the headache...i got a "B" which was good enough for me..I studied physics so long that i doubled my score in the PS section of the MCATwhen i retook it... and it was my highest section also..😛

How is biomechanics in POD school? Is it as bad as undergrad physics? I did okay in physics I just really really really didn't like the course. thanks.

 

[MaseratiGT]

How is biomechanics in POD school? Is it as bad as undergrad physics? I did okay in physics I just really really really didn't like the course. thanks.

My biomech wasn't bad. It's not as physics based as you would think. Ours was really based on joint angles, ROM, joint position, and gait cycle.