Should I leave him?

[FluoroQuinolone]

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I have been accepted into Pharm.D program 12 hours away from my residence. My husband of 4 years refuses to move there with me. we have 1 child aged 2 (he has another one 13 years). He prefers to stay back because he thinks he may not find a job there (He is into Finance). Athough he seemed excited when I first got accepted, I feel like he does not really want me to go to Pharmacy school.

Anyway I know I can't make it alone in the program saddled with a kid. My mother has offered to help by moving from Africa to help with the kids for about 2 years (I don't like this but under the circumstance, it seem the best option), but he has so far refused...because he can't live with my mother...unless I go with my mum+kid, or ship my kid to Africa to my mum(I don't suscribe to that).

But Pharmacy School I must go. I am thinking of leaving him so I know I have to paddle the waters alone. He is pulling me down with all this negative energy.

What do you think?

In put from African Professional Students in US would be highly appreciated

 

[LADoc00]

I have been accepted into Pharm.D program 12 hours away from my residence. My husband of 4 years refuses to move there with me. we have 1 child aged 2 (he has another one 13 years). He prefers to stay back because he thinks he may not find a job there (He is into Finance). Athough he seemed excited when I first got accepted, I feel like he does not really want me to go to Pharmacy school.

Anyway I know I can't make it alone in the program saddled with a kid. My mother has offered to help by moving from Africa to help with the kids for about 2 years (I don't like this but under the circumstance, it seem the best option), but he has so far refused...because he can't live with my mother...unless I go with my mum+kid, or ship my kid to Africa to my mum(I don't suscribe to that).

But Pharmacy School I must go. I am thinking of leaving him so I know I have to paddle the waters alone. He is pulling me down with all this negative energy.

What do you think?

In put from African Professional Students in US would be highly appreciated

EH? You are going to leave your husband, ship your kid to Africa and all for Pharm school?!

 

[FluoroQuinolone]

EH? You are going to leave your husband, ship your kid to Africa and all for Pharm school?!

YES! I have always wanted to be a Pharmacist b4 I met him...and he is not going to keep me from achieving my dream.

I do not suscribe to shipping my kid to Africa though, but my hands are tied.

 

[rgerwin]

Couldn't you leave him, have your mother come and take the kid to pharm school?

 

[MissMuffet]

So sad. 🙁

 

[Taurus]

I think you need to re-evaluate your priorities. The happiness and well-being of your child should be your highest priority, regardless how you feel about your husband. Shipping your kid off to live with somebody he barely knows so that you can achieve your interests...seems kinda selfish. These are critical years of your child's life. Marriage is about compromise. Try working it out some more.

 

[LADoc00]

YES! I have always wanted to be a Pharmacist b4 I met him...and he is not going to keep me from achieving my dream.

I do not suscribe to shipping my kid to Africa though, but my hands are tied.

This has to be a troll. No one is this ******ed. We have stepped into new territory now, the land of the truly insane.

I can only imagine your poor kid sitting around in Dafur somewhere wondering what the hell went wrong...

Someone should call CPS on you, pharm school will be least of your concerns when you are staring at 5 years in a women's penal colony.

But Pharmacy School I must go.

How bout settling for prison? To prison you must go....

 

[shiniwoai]

I think you need to re-evaluate your priorities. The happiness and well-being of your child should be your highest priority, regardless how you feel about your husband. Shipping your kid off to live with somebody he barely knows so that you can achieve your interests...seems kinda selfish. These are critical years of your child's life. Marriage is about compromise. Try working it out some more.

well said, Taurus. 👍

suddenly, i'm glad my mother is not like this.

 

[firetown]

I have been accepted into Pharm.D program 12 hours away from my residence. My husband of 4 years refuses to move there with me. we have 1 child aged 2 (he has another one 13 years). He prefers to stay back because he thinks he may not find a job there (He is into Finance). Athough he seemed excited when I first got accepted, I feel like he does not really want me to go to Pharmacy school.

Anyway I know I can't make it alone in the program saddled with a kid. My mother has offered to help by moving from Africa to help with the kids for about 2 years (I don't like this but under the circumstance, it seem the best option), but he has so far refused...because he can't live with my mother...unless I go with my mum+kid, or ship my kid to Africa to my mum(I don't suscribe to that).

But Pharmacy School I must go. I am thinking of leaving him so I know I have to paddle the waters alone. He is pulling me down with all this negative energy.

What do you think?

In put from African Professional Students in US would be highly appreciated

If this is not a troll, then you need to seriously evaluate the choices that you want to make. If your husband may find it hard to get a job in a new place, why do you want him to move. In the end you will be more miserable with him at home. Are there no pharmacy schools where you live currently. Can't you say go for one semester and then try and transfer back. I don't think you have given much thought to all your options. In cases like this, I think it is usually more of one partner wanting to get out of a deteriorating marriage so badly that any excuse to leave is worth it. Are you sure this is not the case. Otherwise you should be able to work something out with him where both of you are comfortable and does not put the interest of your children last.

 

[DownonthePharm]

It doesnt make sense that he would be supportive during the application process and so relucant now. Either he was playing, thinking you would never really get in, or he is comfortable were he is and doesnt like the idea of change.

Has he actually done any looking at jobs in the area near the school? You have a few months before school starts. Take a little road trip to the town the school is in and let him have some time to get the feel of the place, the homes, schools, look for jobs. He doesnt have to move until he finds employment, but you must agree to a reasonable time frame.

You need to make all of this a joint decision if you value your marriage.

If you move away alone, you said you couldnt handle your child and school, and your mother offered to help, but you indicated that your mother and child would be staying with your husband. Why couldnt the three of you live together near the school. Then you could get the support you need from your mother, while still having your child with you.

 

[Wifty]

I think its great that your mom offered to help, and if you need to, have her come out to you to do it. She wouldn't have offered if she didn't want to help.

However, being a mom myself and having seen first hand how taxing med school can be, what about waiting until your child is at least of school age? That way, they will be in school while you are in school and you would need less help. Plus, the couple extra years of waiting might turn up a job for hubby or make him more willing to move.

Look at the non-trad forum if you are worried about being 'too old' if you wait a couple more years. Unless you are in your 80s, you have time to be what you want AND be there for your toddler.

With smiles from a mom of a 2 year old too,
Wifty

 

[imprecious]

I have been accepted into Pharm.D program 12 hours away from my residence. My husband of 4 years refuses to move there with me. we have 1 child aged 2 (he has another one 13 years). He prefers to stay back because he thinks he may not find a job there (He is into Finance). Athough he seemed excited when I first got accepted, I feel like he does not really want me to go to Pharmacy school.

Anyway I know I can't make it alone in the program saddled with a kid. My mother has offered to help by moving from Africa to help with the kids for about 2 years (I don't like this but under the circumstance, it seem the best option), but he has so far refused...because he can't live with my mother...unless I go with my mum+kid, or ship my kid to Africa to my mum(I don't suscribe to that).

But Pharmacy School I must go. I am thinking of leaving him so I know I have to paddle the waters alone. He is pulling me down with all this negative energy.

What do you think?

In put from African Professional Students in US would be highly appreciated

I totally agree with Taurus. You do need to prioritize. I know we all have dreams and aspirations we want to accomplish. But sometimes in life, things don't go according to plan. Then you have to really look at your priorities and make the most of a situation.
Marriage after 4 years and a 2 year old child together-- are you that willing to go to pharmacy school at this point to leave your husband? Marriage is about commitment and compromise. Perhaps you can go to pharmacy school by yourself and if your son is too young for you to leave right now, maybe you can put your pharmacy goals off for a little while. I know that it is a difficult decision to make, but you also need to think of your son and his growing up during this age without his parents by him.
I also had a dream all my life that I would go to school, get a good education, a good profession, and come back to my hometown and raise my family here. But I met my boyfriend of 4 years who has joined the Air Force. With his profession, we'll be moving around every 3 years or so-- the total complete opposite of what my "dream life" was thought to be. But I have learned to accept and we have compromised in our ideas. We will not leave each other because our individual dreams have been tampered with. It's all about compromise and commitment.
You made the decision to get married and to have this child. You can't just walk away from those things that easily, I don't think. If they are that important to you, I don't think you would be able to just say that you'll leave your husband and ship your child off.
This is just my opinion. I'm very sorry for your difficult situation. It's difficult to have a partner who does not seem to support you in your goals. But I really urge you to think of your child. He should be the #1 priority for you right now. Best wishes to you. Take care!

 

[nikegiwa]

There are probably a lot of factors that we don't see, so we shouldn't be so quick to judge. Actually, she probably is not a troll, but someone who was venting and didn't select the best choice of words to do so. My humble opinion is that you and your husband need to have a very serious talk. Most likely he has "cold feet" if he was supportive at first and has only started to become negative about it very recently. For some men (especially if he is accustomed to being the breadwinner), it is a major blow to the ego to have to "follow" one's wife (some men are okay with it, but others are not). Moreover, his fears may be legitimate as far as fearing that he may not have lucrative job offers in the new town, especially if it's in a less densely populated area. But at the same time, it doesn't seem like forfeiting pharmacy school is necessarily the best solution either, as your future career as a pharmacist will be beneficial for your husband and especially your child, and you obviously weren't accepted into another pharmacy school closer to home or you wouldn't have this concern. Is there a possibility that you could contact the school that admitted you and ask about deferring your admission for a year while you sort these matters out? That gives your husband time to research job possibilities in the new area before relocating. It also gives you another year to reapply to pharmacy school (maybe you'll gain admission into the one closer to home).

Also, electing the help of your mother is not a bad idea. The support of friends and family is often an invaluable resource when one is completing a professional program...be it being there physically or just lending an ear. I don't know if sending your son away is a good idea, though. Not because he will be "in Darfur somewhere" as someone so ignorantly stated earlier (contrary to public opinion, there ARE places in Africa that are stable, modern, and affluent, and if she is considering sending her son there with her family, it is likley to one of those places, not to a war zone...don't make silly assumptions just because the word "Africa" was involved), but because he IS your responsibility, and because he is so young, sending him away will cause you to miss out on his formative years. If he moves over there and only visits with you on holidays, then he will come to view Grandma, not you, as his "real" mommy because of how seldom you will see him...and that would devastate most mothers.

I think if it's feasible to ask your mother to come here to help out, do so. It will be a great way for your child to bond with your mother, and it will also be a good way to ensure that he knows more about his African heritage in addition to his American heritage. I thank God that my mother constantly positively reinforces to my daughter the importance of being functionally bicultural, yet still having pride in being of African descent. But I don't understand why he said that she can't reside in your current house with your husband, your son, and the stepchild. Why should they all have to pack up and move with you...is he trying to "get rid" of all the kids so that he can have his "freedom"? I don't wish to make negative assumptions about your husband, but at best it seems like he wants you to handle all the "domestic" stuff (kids, etc) without him lending a hand. And that's not the purpose of marriage; marriage is a partnership and not a dictatorship. You two really need to talk openly and honestly about this very important issue.

 

[SauvignonBlanc]

I agree with nikegiwa and most sensible posters, marriage is a partnership not dictatorship. Pray about this and then you two need to sit down and have a serious talk. If it is his ego, assure him that when you get your Pharm.D license, the family as a whole would reap the benefits. But sending your child to Africa should be off limits. Time wasted is never gained back. Even though you would be away at school you still get to see him intermitently during school breaks, so at all cost keep your child in the U.S.

GOOD LUCK.

 

[amojan99]

This has to be a troll. No one is this ******ed. We have stepped into new territory now, the land of the truly insane.

I can only imagine your poor kid sitting around in Dafur somewhere wondering what the hell went wrong...

Someone should call CPS on you, pharm school will be least of your concerns when you are staring at 5 years in a women's penal colony.



How bout settling for prison? To prison you must go....

Jeez man, not every place in Africa is wracked with rebellions and warfare. Some successful people have been known to come from there. Plus, the situation would only be temporary. I'm assuming the kid is an american citizen, so coming back shouldnt be a problem at all. The kid will be 6 by the time he comes back, and in this day and age, staying in touch electronically is possible.

 

[dr_almondjoy_do]

Listen,

Do not let the opinions of these people sway you. From what I am reading, I am assuming that these posters are not African, or even foreign born, or know of any culture other than American, and don't have a clue as to what some people have to sacrifice to follow their dreams. I don't think this is a troll, so I will give my advice.

Talk things over with your husband. Go over some options with him and make sure he knows how important this is for you to go to Pharm school, and how much you are willing to sacrifice to do so. School is temporary. Aside from your Pharm.D, life will be back to normal before you all know it.

Since your mom is willing to move from Africa to help you, and as long as this will not disturb her life much, then move away with her closer to school and live with your child. Your husband can visit, and he may consider moving to be closer to all of you. But don't leave him based on his verbal stance alone.

By not mentioning that you may think of your husband taking care of your child alone, I guess this is not an option. Does he have family that can help?

I feel that you can go to school and still preserve your marriage, possibly with a long distance arrangement. Unless you are unhappy all together, stay with him and go to school! It's temporary.

 

[nikegiwa]

Dr. Almond Joy, I AM African. And I think you gave very helpful advice, as did some of the posters before you...advice very similar to yours. Not all of us attacked her, as she doesn't deserve that. But I do stand behind my questions about her husband's commitment to helping her with this journey because of his refusal to live with her mother. If her mother is willing to move to the US and take care of the baby, then why can't the mom reside in the father's home and take care of the baby there instead of her, the baby, and her mom all moving out of town together? This is a difficult decision for everyone, and everyone needs to pull together to find the best solution for the whole family.

 

[LADoc00]

Jeez man, not every place in Africa is wracked with rebellions and warfare. Some successful people have been known to come from there. Plus, the situation would only be temporary. I'm assuming the kid is an american citizen, so coming back shouldnt be a problem at all. The kid will be 6 by the time he comes back, and in this day and age, staying in touch electronically is possible.

Oo yes of course, there is more to Africa than Sudan, there is Liberia, Congo, Algeria, Chad, Burundi, Ethiopia, Ghana, Somalia, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Uganda and the marvelous Botswana. Currently of those only Botswana enjoys relative peace but unfortunately has a 37% (!) HIV infection rate permenantly crippling all economic development from now until eternity. Where is relative peace in Africa not boarded by war on at least one side? Answer: NONE.

Thank you.

 

[myfavred]

Oo yes of course, there is more to Africa than Sudan, there is Liberia, Congo, Algeria, Chad, Burundi, Ethiopia, Ghana, Somalia, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Uganda and the marvelous Botswana. Currently of those only Botswana enjoys relative peace but unfortunately has a 37% (!) HIV infection rate permenantly crippling all economic development from now until eternity. Where is relative peace in Africa not boarded by war on at least one side? Answer: NONE.

Thank you.

you forgot Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and some other countries.

 

[bananaface]

Most single moms I know use daycare. 👍

 

[firetown]

Oo yes of course, there is more to Africa than Sudan, there is Liberia, Congo, Algeria, Chad, Burundi, Ethiopia, Ghana, Somalia, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Uganda and the marvelous Botswana. Currently of those only Botswana enjoys relative peace but unfortunately has a 37% (!) HIV infection rate permenantly crippling all economic development from now until eternity. Where is relative peace in Africa not boarded by war on at least one side? Answer: NONE.

Thank you.

Have you ever travelled or lived in any African country before. Seems to me that your information is likely to be only from watching TV and reading newspapers.

 

[LADoc00]

you forgot Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia and some other countries.

My list wasnt meant to be comprehensive...yes the wonderful economically prosperous lands of Libya and Tunisia also need to be included. They are all bastions and beacons of how NOT to run a country.

 

[nikegiwa]

You guys, don't bother to argue with him, as some people prefer to remain closeminded and forget that countries are made of provinces, of states, and of cities, many of which are different from one another as day and night...in Africa as in America. As a person that has lived in and extensively visited many countries in Africa and in Europe, I know this, but some people prefer stereotypes to reality. Certainly there are many parts of Africa that are plagued with problems; no one is disputing that. However, sweeping generalizations and sarcastic insults are not accurate nor called for.

 

[LADoc00]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19189
good read.

 

[fromnowhere]

If i were in your situation i will bring my mom and take her with the kid to school. Is your husband too from Africa? If he is that to me is a strange behavior because most african men are very supportive of education in this country.

 

[FluoroQuinolone]

I really appreciate your input both positive and negative. I have been reading your posts and I decided to have a chat with him as you sensibly suggested. We are still talking about it and his concern about my mom coming over is that she would be lonely when no one is home during the day. He thinks we can hire a live-in help, but that is off-limits with me (setting up for a fall). It is still very confusing, as I get mixed signals from him from time to time. He is currently going through midlife crisis i guess and making life very difficult for everyone around him. I will continue to pray and talk and see where it would end up. I'm not going to force issues, if finally, he still insist that he cannot stay with mom, I would move with kid+mom, and then who knows...

Thanks ppl

 

[akaz]

I think you need to re-evaluate your priorities. The happiness and well-being of your child should be your highest priority, regardless how you feel about your husband. Shipping your kid off to live with somebody he barely knows so that you can achieve your interests...seems kinda selfish. These are critical years of your child's life. Marriage is about compromise. Try working it out some more.

These are very american views. I know many from India and Africa do this. A friend of mine from Korea did this--sent the child to be with her mother while in medical school. Do what is right for you, your child, and your culture?

Really

 

[akaz]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19189
good read.

You are an american. You seem to act so american.

 

[akaz]

These are very american views. I know many from India and Africa do this. A friend of mine from Korea did this--sent the child to be with her mother while in medical school. Do what is right for you, your child, and your culture?

Really

Americans can be very arrogant, ethnocentric, egotistical fanatics. There are many ways to doing things. I find it embarrassing to be an american after reading LADOC's posts. I am hoping this person isn't american.

 

[VCOMLover]

I have been accepted into Pharm.D program 12 hours away from my residence. My husband of 4 years refuses to move there with me. we have 1 child aged 2 (he has another one 13 years). He prefers to stay back because he thinks he may not find a job there (He is into Finance). Athough he seemed excited when I first got accepted, I feel like he does not really want me to go to Pharmacy school.

Anyway I know I can't make it alone in the program saddled with a kid. My mother has offered to help by moving from Africa to help with the kids for about 2 years (I don't like this but under the circumstance, it seem the best option), but he has so far refused...because he can't live with my mother...unless I go with my mum+kid, or ship my kid to Africa to my mum(I don't suscribe to that).

But Pharmacy School I must go. I am thinking of leaving him so I know I have to paddle the waters alone. He is pulling me down with all this negative energy.

What do you think?

In put from African Professional Students in US would be highly appreciated

Well because I'm a Christian I thought that i would come from that standpoint. I've read both positive and negative sides and agree and disagree. First of all you must really evaluate what a marriage is...Biblically and not humanly. It's not something to be thrown away as easily as people are doing it these days. Bibically one isn't to divorce and if they do it should be because of infidility. Or if you know that you're not going to marry again then ok. I just say that because marriage is a very serious deal and not something to be thrown away so so so easily as we see in Hollywood everyday.
Secondly...You really have to think about the welfare of your child. I don't have any children but I get sad beinging 4 hours away from my parents and siblings sometimes. And I've seen how quickly a child can change. So if anything I say take your mom up on the opportunity and go and see your husband on breaks or he can come to see you. I have people in my med school class that have spouses in other states. And some (majority women) have the children here with them and just go to visit mom/dad when they have the time.
But I understand how you are about your career...I'm very head strong about mine and choose not to be with anyone until I get more stable and settled with me. But your career includes your family and you have to sit down and make a family decision. I pray you the best of luck.

 

[LADoc00]

You are an american. You seem to act so american.

You live in a box, a picturesque world of strawberry shortcakes and my little ponies, oblivious to the inconceivable magnitude of the suffering that persists outside your little universe. Dont lecture on me from your pitiful excuse of a high horse. Africa is a continent knee deep in a world of hurt. Regardless of the cause or blame, I would hope a clear thinking individual in the U.S. (or almost anywhere else for that matter!) would not thoughtlessly plop their only kid down into without consideration for lifestyle and safety just to attend grad school!!! Maybe when the OP is sitting behind the flippin counter at a CVS pharmacy dispensing Viagra and Plan B contraception, she might not think it was worth putting her baby in arm's reach of a Hutu machetes. That was my only point.

 

[dr_almondjoy_do]

You live in a box, a picturesque world of strawberry shortcakes and my little ponies, oblivious to the inconceivable magnitude of the suffering that persists outside your little universe. Dont lecture on me from your pitiful excuse of a high horse. Africa is a continent knee deep in a world of hurt. Regardless of the cause or blame, I would hope a clear thinking individual in the U.S. (or almost anywhere else for that matter!) would not thoughtlessly plop their only kid down into without consideration for lifestyle and safety just to attend grad school!!! Maybe when the OP is sitting behind the flippin counter at a CVS pharmacy dispensing Viagra and Plan B contraception, she might not think it was worth putting her baby in arm's reach of a Hutu machetes. That was my only point.

well I'll be....

As bad as you may think an ENTIRE CONTINENT may be, that is hers and countless others on this webboard homeland you speak of. There are impossibly horrid events going on in Africa and the rest of the world as we speak. Some at the hands of the Americans you speak so fondly of.

This is an aspect of culture that many americans don't understand, how one can send their most precious gems, their children, to their homeland for better care than they can provide. I lived in Haiti for almost 2 years when I was young so that my parents could work and save without having to worry about me. My brother then stayed for almost 2 years as well after he was born and I was in school. We are fine. And I am not afflicted because of it. I have many fond memories of me and my family abroad. And I'm sure there are many of us that were "shipped away" as well! so don't speak of what you don't know...it makes you seem ignorant on that high horse...

I am so glad the the OP was able to speak to her husband and that some progress was made in a positive direction. Let God, and let go. It will all turn out fine in the end as long as you are all rational and communicate well.

Good luck to you!

 

[Shrami]

To the OP, I hope you will come to a solution to your issue. People here have given some good, and some bad advice...but the choice is yours. I understand there is also a cultural component in this. Don't forget to keep the welfare of your child in mind. Good Luck!

 

[girldrbrasil]

People. SO FUNNY!!! How the heck did you get from a relationship advice to a social-cultural fight?? How many world atlases did you open to get all the country names??? How many times have you been to Africa? What is wrong with the strawberry shortcakes?? By the way, you seem SO angry. Have you tried kicking a pillow? LOL
AND you did miss the point. I hope you don't react like this if a patient ask you for an advice.

 

[akaz]

You live in a box, a picturesque world of strawberry shortcakes and my little ponies, oblivious to the inconceivable magnitude of the suffering that persists outside your little universe. Dont lecture on me from your pitiful excuse of a high horse. Africa is a continent knee deep in a world of hurt. Regardless of the cause or blame, I would hope a clear thinking individual in the U.S. (or almost anywhere else for that matter!) would not thoughtlessly plop their only kid down into without consideration for lifestyle and safety just to attend grad school!!! Maybe when the OP is sitting behind the flippin counter at a CVS pharmacy dispensing Viagra and Plan B contraception, she might not think it was worth putting her baby in arm's reach of a Hutu machetes. That was my only point.

I don't live in a box. You scare me. A right wing nut. I wish you weren't in pathology. No wonder it is not a respectable professional with people like you in it. The losers of the medical school class. Hopefully, others are not so pathetic.No wonder your SO left you. I wouldn't have spoke to someone like yourself.

 

[LADoc00]

I don't live in a box. You scare me. A right wing nut. I wish you weren't in pathology. No wonder it is not a respectable professional with people like you in it. The losers of the medical school class. Hopefully, others are not so pathetic.No wonder your SO left you. I wouldn't have spoke to someone like yourself.

Akaz:

You are an american. You seem to act so american.

Dear Akaz,
You hate Americans so much, I can see that. It comes from the utter inadequacy your own ethno-cultural upbringing and feelings you simply dont measure up. Im feel sympathy you are so insecure, so lost amongst modern globalization. Bashing pathology there too, for shame! It drives home the point of what an miserable life you have been forced into. I hope you go back to your home country and make it a better place. Maybe it is Africa, I dont know. If it is, I hope you make it a better place than it is today.

~Spero melior!

 

[fromnowhere]

Please Africa is a CONTINENT and not a COUNTRY. If you don't know about life in any country just ask and stop making assumptions based on what you have been taught in this country or after visiting a few improvished places.

 

[akaz]

Akaz:


Dear Akaz,
You hate Americans so much, I can see that. It comes from the utter inadequacy your own ethno-cultural upbringing and feelings you simply dont measure up. Im feel sympathy you are so insecure, so lost amongst modern globalization. Bashing pathology there too, for shame! It drives home the point of what an miserable life you have been forced into. I hope you go back to your home country and make it a better place. Maybe it is Africa, I dont know. If it is, I hope you make it a better place than it is today.

~Spero melior!

I am an american. Born and raised. You are scary. I think in grad school the derm folks at Harvard are much superior than this crazy nonsense. This scares me away. I will go with my derm and science pubs and go with worthy colleagues.

 

[LADoc00]

I am an american. Born and raised. You are scary. I think in grad school the derm folks at Harvard are much superior than this crazy nonsense. This scares me away. I will go with my derm and science pubs and go with worthy colleagues.

Wow, you are so scared. I dont know if this stems from childhood abuse or what, but Im sorry. Come out from the dark Akaz and stop cringing like a scared child. American life can be so sadly unchallenging, creating a population of weak decadent fools who plod along seeking only to avoid confrontation before their next hedonistic event.

 

[fromnowhere]

There is no need to take this thread to that negative level. Please let us be mature. Stop th personal attack and grow up kids.

 

[akaz]

Things were personal when this LADoc00 attacked a woman for her agonizing choice. A choice that is often a struggle for women coming from other places to this country. LADoc00 will always appaul me. How Cruel!!

This has to be a troll. No one is this ******ed. We have stepped into new territory now, the land of the truly insane.

I can only imagine your poor kid sitting around in Dafur somewhere wondering what the hell went wrong...

Someone should call CPS on you, pharm school will be least of your concerns when you are staring at 5 years in a women's penal colony.



How bout settling for prison? To prison you must go....

 

[LADoc00]

Things were personal when this LADoc00 attacked a woman for her agonizing choice. A choice that is often a struggle for women coming from other places to this country. LADoc00 will always appaul me. How Cruel!!

Famous leaders have often said mourn not for the weak, for it is the strong who nature has chosen to survive. Ive often contemplated the meaning of that given my career in medicine.

 

[akaz]

Famous leaders have often said mourn not for the weak, for it is the strong who nature has chosen to survive. Ive often contemplated the meaning of that given my career in medicine.

Actually, I take back what I said. You seem ill and deserve kindness.

 

[LADoc00]

Actually, I take back what I said. You seem ill and deserve kindness.

We all deserve kindness, thanks Akaz. I think you deserve less reliance on chronic masturbation for sexual satisfication. I hope you find relief.

this is all quite amusing.

 

[akaz]

We all deserve kindness, thanks Akaz. I think you deserve less reliance on chronic masturbation for sexual satisfication. I hope you find relief.

this is all quite amusing.

Sad

 

[RossFamily]

saddled with a kid.

Geeez....Im so sorry to hear that you're saddled with a kid. 😡 🙄

 

[mcfaddens]

I don't live in a box. You scare me. A right wing nut. I wish you weren't in pathology. No wonder it is not a respectable professional with people like you in it. The losers of the medical school class. Hopefully, others are not so pathetic.No wonder your SO left you. I wouldn't have spoke to someone like yourself.

Why you gotta bash pathology? Just because you dont agree with one dudes opinion you go ahead and bash the thosands that are in that profession. Thats weak! I cant take anything you say seriously now you totally blew any credibility. WTF? Grow up bro

 

[mcfaddens]

Akaz,
You arent even in medical school yet, so shut up.

 

[akaz]

Akaz,
You arent even in medical school yet, so shut up.

I think his behavior was callous. I have been in research for awhile. I do know that the folks in the derm labs were fantastic. I know that others never were as strong. I will say, I am uncomfortable with the callousness of the attitudes of some of the path folks. Many of my friends are attendings and they say path is often the field for those that aren't great with people or are not competitive. No one had a problem with how he treated this woman or another that was asking about SO and distance. That is interesting. It is OK to treat human beings bad, but not bash pathology. That is curious? I thought this was medicine, to eradicate human suffering. I will be more respectful, forget humans, worry about a field. Great physicians. How appauling!! Shameful 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

 

[endodoc]

Geeez....Im so sorry to hear that you're saddled with a kid. 😡 🙄

She should of kept her legs closed or at least told him to pull out.... If she feels that about her child; it is very sad! If she wanted to be a PharmD so bad she could of did a intern and took some bith control.