Should I take interview at LUCOM?

[MightBeACylon439]

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1) you don't understand the significance of a scientific theory. Creationism isn't a theory. Saying that evolution is still just a theory is dumb. Gravity is a theory. I would bet anything you believe in gravity as you probably don't jump off buildings. Learn about scoentific hypothesis/theory/law something liberty clearly didn't teach you.

2) doctors can be religious but it can't affect how you treat your patients. Religious perspective can be harmful. If your religion says homosexuality is wrong you still got to treat gay patients and you should make them comfortable and not try to change their sexuality. I doubt lucom doctors will meet that criteria (I hope I'm wrong)

3) its not about dealing with controversy. I'm dealing with it right now. Its about not supporting an institution that has ideals that are harmful. Being in an environment that contradicts my moral code would drive me insane. OP seems to be the same way. OP has a 30 MCAT and doesn't need to go to this school. OP isn't desperate enough to go here. Not attending would be a wise choice.

4) I doubt I will be working with lucom doctors for long as my guess is that it will shut down.

Now that I have gotten my answer. #2 Is odd for a few reasons- 1 I think what you were trying to say is a fundamentalist or perhaps rigid religious perspective can be harmful. What you said could be taken too liberally, and in a battle of words- semantics are important. 2 It may be because I haven't personally seen it, but do we have an epidemic of religious doctors trying to "pray the gay away" in their patients? Where are you getting this from?

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

Way more applicants than spots in med school, so I'm not surprised. They also invited a person with an MCAT of 21 to an interview (not the OP; on another thread). If a 21 MCAT is worthy of an interview out of that application pool...

There is plenty of med students there with a less then 20 MCAT is my guess. I would guess there 10-90 percentile is 18-26

 

[AlteredScale]

Also note that Goro, a very well-respected DO admissions committee member on these boards, has singled out LUCOM as the only DO school he would not recommend. I've never heard him speak ill of a med school before, so I would take note of his exception.

He does this for the reason of avoiding the very predicament that OP is in!

 

[JDKVEGAS]

1) you don't understand the significance of a scientific theory. Creationism isn't a theory. Saying that evolution is still just a theory is dumb. Gravity is a theory. I would bet anything you believe in gravity as you probably don't jump off buildings. Learn about scoentific hypothesis/theory/law something liberty clearly didn't teach you.

2) doctors can be religious but it can't affect how you treat your patients. Religious perspective can be harmful. If your religion says homosexuality is wrong you still got to treat gay patients and you should make them comfortable and not try to change their sexuality. I doubt lucom doctors will meet that criteria (I hope I'm wrong)

3) its not about dealing with controversy. I'm dealing with it right now. Its about not supporting an institution that has ideals that are harmful. Being in an environment that contradicts my moral code would drive me insane. OP seems to be the same way. OP has a 30 MCAT and doesn't need to go to this school. OP isn't desperate enough to go here. Not attending would be a wise choice.

4) I doubt I will be working with lucom doctors for long as my guess is that it will shut down.

I sincerely do not want to keep posting but I wanted to particularly address this. I did learn the scientific method but I do understand your point about gravity. I also learned about evolution. I respectfully would like to say that understanding evolution/creationism isnt the most important thing in medicine. Sure it can be a solid understanding for the background of medicine but you can still treat just a well with both understandings.

When you bring up homosexuality, I can once again understand your point. Many Christians and religious people in general have shown hate, but honestly, that is not what is taught. I have friends that are homosexual, and I do agree it should have no bearing on how you treat someone. One should put their opinions behind them when being a physician.

While I do think that OP has stats that are better than Liberty, I was just trying to show a more well-intentioned post about Liberty than what people who have not gone there have said. I am not a 100% advocate for LUCOM but I again just do not see a true reason for the mean comments towards those who choose to go there. I mean Loma Linda is respected and hold the same principles as Liberty.

 

[user3]

Haters gonna hate, LUCOM got like 3.5K applications this year

# of applications is nearly useless information, as individuals are generally applying to 5-20+ schools apiece. entering stats have the final say, and so far, LUCOM's are abysmal.

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

Now that I have gotten my answer. #2 Is odd for a few reasons- 1 I think what you were trying to say is a fundamentalist or perhaps rigid religious perspective can be harmful. What you said could be taken too liberally, and in a battle of words- semantics are important. 2 It may be because I haven't personally seen it, but do we have an epidemic of religious doctors trying to "pray the gay away" in their patients? Where are you getting this from?

There has been no lucom doctors yet. It wouldn't be national news if a lucom doctor tried telling a patient being gay is wrong. Its speculation.

And yea fundamentalist religion is a problem in medicine. There is a place for religion in medicine but its not with the doctors. Leave that to the priests and rabbis and leave the medicine to the doctor .

 

[allantois]

I sincerely do not want to keep posting but I wanted to particularly address this. I did learn the scientific method but I do understand your point about gravity. I also learned about evolution. I respectfully would like to say that understanding evolution/creationism isnt the most important thing in medicine. Sure it can be a solid understanding for the background of medicine but you can still treat just a well with both understandings.

1) Please tell us how old you think the Earth is?
2)I cannot imagine a LUCOM graduate being taken seriously by the scientific (medical) community. A Caribbean school would have a better reputation than LUCOM.

When you bring up homosexuality, I can once again understand your point. Many Christians and religious people in general have shown hate, but honestly, that is not what is taught. I have friends that are homosexual, and I do agree it should have no bearing on how you treat someone. One should put their opinions behind them when being a physician.

3)Poor souls; I hope they are not in attendance of LUCOM. Do they try to change them through exorcism?

 

[allantois]

Now that I have gotten my answer. #2 Is odd for a few reasons- 1 I think what you were trying to say is a fundamentalist or perhaps rigid religious perspective can be harmful. What you said could be taken too liberally, and in a battle of words- semantics are important. 2 It may be because I haven't personally seen it, but do we have an epidemic of religious doctors trying to "pray the gay away" in their patients? Where are you getting this from?

There are documentaries about psychiatrists giving gay cure therapies just some 20 years ago.

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

I sincerely do not want to keep posting but I wanted to particularly address this. I did learn the scientific method but I do understand your point about gravity. I also learned about evolution. I respectfully would like to say that understanding evolution/creationism isnt the most important thing in medicine. Sure it can be a solid understanding for the background of medicine but you can still treat just a well with both understandings.

When you bring up homosexuality, I can once again understand your point. Many Christians and religious people in general have shown hate, but honestly, that is not what is taught. I have friends that are homosexual, and I do agree it should have no bearing on how you treat someone. One should put their opinions behind them when being a physician.

While I do think that OP has stats that are better than Liberty, I was just trying to show a more well-intentioned post about Liberty than what people who have not gone there have said. I am not a 100% advocate for LUCOM but I again just do not see a true reason for the mean comments towards those who choose to go there. I mean Loma Linda is respected and hold the same principles as Liberty.

Its not about evolution. It's about rejecting science. Its about modifying science to fit your beliefs instead of modifying your beleifs to fit science. That is wrong. Lucom doctors believe in micro and macro evolution to explain microbial resistance. Insane!

And its great your liberal with the gays but you see how I might be concerned about that aspect of religion being infused into medicine?

Im not a loma Linda fan either but they aren't as bad. I wouldn't recommend them either. Schools that aren't as extreme I recommend (cusom mucom touro)

 

[jamcat]

JDKVEGAS, the reason it's relevant is because medicine is based on science. If you don't "believe" in evolution, you're questioning the integrity of the entire scientific process, which is incompatible with the methods of medicine. Medicine is the very same science that brings you evolution. If you can't "believe" in evolution, how ever can you "believe" in medicine? It's the very same thing.

I'd also note that you literally cannot be a doctor without "believing" in evolution. What would you say if a patient asks why they need to get a flu shot every year? It's because of evolution, and if you deny its existence you simply can't be an effective doctor.

 

[jamcat]

Its not about evolution. It's about rejecting science. Its about modifying science to fit your beliefs instead of modofying your beleifs to fit science. )

Bingo. It's the mindset that there will never be any fact that will ever be able to change your mind, which is scary, particularly for somebody who wants to practice a science.

 

[user3]

There will always be people who stick up for this school as long as COCA accredits them.

 

[user3]

JDKVEGAS, the reason it's relevant is because medicine is based on science. If you don't "believe" in evolution, you're questioning the integrity of the entire scientific process, which is incompatible with the methods of medicine. Medicine is the very same science that brings you evolution. If you can't "believe" in evolution, how ever can you "believe" in medicine? It's the very same thing.

I'd also note that you literally cannot be a doctor without "believing" in evolution. What would you say if a patient asks why they need to get a flu shot every year? It's because of evolution, and if you deny its existence you simply can't be an effective doctor.

Its not about evolution. It's about rejecting science. Its about modifying science to fit your beliefs instead of modifying your beleifs to fit science. That is wrong. Lucom doctors believe in micro and macro evolution to explain microbial resistance. Insane!

And its great your liberal with the gays but you see how I might be concerned about that aspect of religion being infused into medicine?

Im not a loma Linda fan either but they aren't as bad. I wouldn't recommend them either. Schools that aren't as extreme I recommend (cusom mucom touro)

Let's just make a toast to LUCOM becoming the laughingstock of osteopathic colleges.

 

[allantois]

There will always be people who stick up for this school as long as COCA accredits them.

There will always be enough fundamentalist monkeys (no irony intended) who will gladly attend LUCOM without being accepted anywhere else with their highly mediocre stats.

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

Let's just make a toast to LUCOM becoming the laughingstock of osteopathic colleges.

It seriously makes us look bad! I really want them to be gone. Shooo lucom shooo

 

[user3]

There will always be enough fundamentalist monkeys (no irony intended) who will gladly attend LUCOM without being accepted anywhere else with their highly mediocre stats.

and these are usually the same people who will shout that GPA/MCAT don't mean squat and their buddy with a 2.9 and 20 matched derm and got a 270 Step 1.

 

[feeling-dizzy]

Ok Ok. All hates aside. I am Catholic and think I can speak for both sides here. Now if OP goes to interview and end up accepted to LUCOM. In addition, if LUCOM is his only acceptance, it is very hard to explain why he does not go to LUCOM but reapply next yr to other admins. It does not look good to turn down acceptance (yes, even from LUCOM); since other med school will wonder if they are wasting time with you next yr. So, if OP is not comfortable with LUCOM mission and visions (admittedly there are several of them), I recommend not to go to interview.

 

[MightBeACylon439]

There are documentaries about psychiatrists giving gay cure therapies just some 20 years ago.

And more recently? Is this still wide spread practice (in medicine, not just church/bible camps).

 

[allantois]

And more recently? Is this still wide spread practice (in medicine, not just church/bible camps).

You realize that it was so recent that physicians involved with it are still in practice today?

Here's the legal status of conversion therapy in US (as you can see it is not at all outlawed in vast majority of states):
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gay-conversion-therapy-un-committee

 

[user3]

edit: I was mistaken, there is a dress code but no mandatory class attendance.

 

[MightBeACylon439]

if all of this controversy of LUCOM doesn't dissuade you, they also enforce a dress code and mandatory class attendance.

I would (if ever) remotely consider LUCOM only if my chances of getting into any other school were hopeless.

Roll back I already made my decision not to interview.

 

[MightBeACylon439]

You realize that it was so recent that physicians involved with it are still in practice today?

Here's the legal status of conversion therapy in US (as you can see it is not at all outlawed in vast majority of states):
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gay-conversion-therapy-un-committee

Evidence! Thank you.

 

[dreday710]

This is the answer, thank you dreday710. I will not be taking the interview.

I wish someone would have told me before I went. You made the right choice.

 

[touchpause13]

And more recently? Is this still wide spread practice (in medicine, not just church/bible camps).

Yes.

Signed- someone who was threatened with going to one of those things
It's not just pray the gay away though, lots of well meaning physicians unintentionally blunder things up with gay patients (don't do the right tests, don't offer the right treatments, assume all their patients are straight) - I can only imagine how poor the care would be from a school that either intentionally ignores population at best or stigmatizes them at worst.

Also I would suggest not going. You seem very ambivalent and you don't want to get a sole acceptance from there and reject it, that doesn't look good.

good job on your MCAT, I'm sure you will be accepted elsewhere

 

[petyr_baelish]

In the words of Richard Dawkins, "Go to a real university."

 

[1badz]

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if all of this controversy of LUCOM doesn't dissuade you, they also enforce a dress code and mandatory class attendance.

I rarely have time to post on here, but really? Stop spreading rumors. Yes, we have a dress code that EVERY medical school has or should have. They want you looking sharp in at least business casual. If you find that a deal breaker, it's time to grow up out of your sweatpants and enter the real world. We personally look sharp as a class and haven't heard anyone really complain about the dress code. What do you mean enforce it? I have seen people (myself included) slip up once in a while and wear things such as scrub bottoms with a hoodie to class. You stick out like a sore thumb, but you won't be reprimanded by it. Not to mention, we get casual Fridays once in a while which is neat. Mandatory class attendance? This was certainly encouraged, but they know (as well as all other schools) that people have different learning styles. There is a handful of folks who are never in the building unless it's a lab or an exam. I think it's funny how rumors spread and how 100% of them are from people who have but the slightest clue. Anyway, carry on!

 

[GypsyHummus]

I'd honestly pick the Caribbean over LUCOM. I would not attend.

Why? I fail to understand what is so toxic about the situation. If the school says that the earth is only 6K years old then yes, they are nuts, but I think that the medical school is a separate entity altogether.

And who cares if some people believe that stuff. Some people believe that Attack of the Clones was a good Star Wars movie. They are wrong, but I don't let them irritate me.

Going to a DO school is much better than the carrib because at least there will be spots for you in family med or internal if you pass all the boards. There is no such "guarantee" on the islands.

 

[user3]

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I rarely have time to post on here, but really? Stop spreading rumors. Yes, we have a dress code that EVERY medical school has or should have. They want you looking sharp in at least business casual. If you find that a deal breaker, it's time to grow up out of your sweatpants and enter the real world. We personally look sharp as a class and haven't heard anyone really complain about the dress code. What do you mean enforce it? I have seen people (myself included) slip up once in a while and wear things such as scrub bottoms with a hoodie to class. You stick out like a sore thumb, but you won't be reprimanded by it. Not to mention, we get casual Fridays once in a while which is neat. Mandatory class attendance? This was certainly encouraged, but they know (as well as all other schools) that people have different learning styles. There is a handful of folks who are never in the building unless it's a lab or an exam. I think it's funny how rumors spread and how 100% of them are from people who have but the slightest clue. Anyway, carry on!

post edited.

I was confused because I had read this document that implied that they had an attendance policy.
"Candidates will be required to acknowledge by signature their ability and willingness to comply with the college’s technical standards, policies on attendance, dress code"
http://www.liberty.edu/media/1290/pdfs/LUCOM_Catalog_2013-2014_4.pdf

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

lol, your education was probably horrible at LU. What did you get on the mcat?
FYI, I go to a top 50. (keeping it very vague)
i'm 99% confident my education was better.

You sound like a douchebag. I went to a top 15 and I don't even boast like that. Have a seat, please.

 

[PlaqueBuster]

Honestly I ignore everything I read on this thread because all of you do not even go to this school so all your speculation and criticism is pretty much a bunch of BS. THose that are pre-med status are even commenting which makes this even pathetic. I am in no way supporting LUCOM because I didn't apply and don't know much about it except for what is mentioned on SDN (taking all of it with a grain of salt). However, it is one thing to say that this is a new school and probably on the lower end of DO schools than to completely bash it. You cannot make an inference that the medical school is going to be crappy because of its undergraduate school. And you cannot make an inference that because they have some faulty beliefs in evolution, that they won't teach good medicine and science. Understand that there are big name researchers who still believe in "one gene one disease" approach in genetics even though there is evidence for multiple genes affecting a single disease. That doesn't mean they cannot do research and it doesn't mean people will not respect them. So please grow up, think critically and think before you say stuff that is completely incorrect and based on your opinions.

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

You're not the judge of people skills, interviewers are, and they say i'm pretty good according to my multiple acceptances.

As for education, your mcat is the judge of that. Is there a reason you could not provide an answer when I asked what your mcat score was.

I'd be happy to give mine; 29.

Bruh did you wake up in the morning and say to yourself "mmm let me get off by disrespecting people on the internet because I (think) am awesome!"? This isn't dick measuring contest, although I'm sure you'd lose that too. Settle down over there.

 

[soitgoes32]

Hello all!

I hope all is well and let me first say is I am not looking for trolls...honest feedback here only please. I have pretty good stats (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/chances-chances-chances-d-o.1110398/ for reference), and I have been extended an interview at LUCOM. I have major reservations about this. I am ok with a religious school, however, the fundamentalist principles and straight up rejection of established scientific thought by the undergraduate institution give me second thoughts as to pursuing it.

This may answer my own question, but as I applied later in the cycle I don't know if I should really even consider turning down interviews at this point. Let me know your thoughts as I am at a loss as to what to do.

Regards,

Nontrad_DO_143

OP do you want to be taught by fools that write this garbage...http://www.fasebj.org/content/28/1_Supplement/719.14 ?

We're talking about a school that has a creation "museum" on campus and is taught by people, who think that earth is 6,000 years old.

A lot of the learning that you will be doing in medical school consists of memorizing information off of powerpoint slides. Do you want these individuals to be the one's that are organizing and preparing this information for you?

I anticipate that you will be accepted at another school, but if worst comes to worst do an SMP or reapply with a beefed up application and never look into this school again. It's in the best interest of you and your future patients.

Best of luck.

 

[GypsyHummus]

# of applications is nearly useless information, as individuals are generally applying to 5-20+ schools apiece. entering stats have the final say, and so far, LUCOM's are abysmal.

what were the entering stats?

 

[PlaqueBuster]

OP do you want to be taught by fools that write this garbage...http://www.fasebj.org/content/28/1_Supplement/719.14 ?

We're talking about a school that has a creation "museum" on campus and is taught by people, who think that earth is 6,000 years old.

A lot of the learning that you will be doing in medical school consists of memorizing information off of powerpoint slides. Do you want these individuals to be the one's that are organizing and preparing this information for you?

I anticipate that you will be accepted at another school, but if worst comes to worst do an SMP or reapply with a beefed up application and never look into this school again. It's in the best interest of you and your future patients.

Best of luck.

1. That article abstract was pretty bad I agree but these faculty taught at others schools before they came here....so suddenly they don't turn bad when they had teaching positions at other DO schools.
2. If you don't get in anywhere and you do like the school from the interview then I see no reason as to why the OP should refuse this.
3. And what are your credentials, sir, to give this OP this advice?

 

[soitgoes32]

1. That article abstract was pretty bad I agree but these faculty taught at others schools before they came here....so suddenly they don't turn bad when they had teaching positions at other DO schools.
2. If you don't get in anywhere and you do like the school from the interview then I see no reason as to why the OP should refuse this.
3. And what are your credentials, sir, to give this OP this advice?

I'm an osteopathic medical student. What credentials are needed to give advice about attending a medical school?

 

[referee3]

OP, I'm an Atheist and attended an interview at LUCOM back in September and later got accepted (needless to say I didn't accept the seat). I went into the interview trying to be as neutral and open-minded as possible. I actually got a fairly good feeling about the school. The students were the friendliest of any school I interviewed at (11 total) and the facilities were quite impressive. I was apprehensive about the quality of the faculty, however the Dean (who was exceptionally well qualified) explained that all of the current faculty were already well established educators and that none of the faculty were first-time teachers.

Even though they made it clear that they are a Catholic institution they reinforced the fact that they accept people of all religions and that a student's beliefs would not influence them negatively or positively while attending the school. However, I'm not sure how much this would actually hold true in real life, guess you'd need a current student to tell you for sure.

All in all, I did not think the school was anywhere near as bad as all the Trolls here on SDN make it out to be. Had it been my only acceptance I could have easily seen myself going there.

I say go to the interview and at least use it as practice.

 

[PlaqueBuster]

I'm an osteopathic medical student. What credentials are needed to give advice about attending a medical school?

someone who interviewed at that school or went to that school if the advice is specific about that school. But being a med students is better than pre-med. I just didn't know since it doesnt say on your icon.

 

[allantois]

Why? I fail to understand what is so toxic about the situation. If the school says that the earth is only 6K years old then yes, they are nuts, but I think that the medical school is a separate entity altogether.

And who cares if some people believe that stuff. Some people believe that Attack of the Clones was a good Star Wars movie. They are wrong, but I don't let them irritate me.

Going to a DO school is much better than the carrib because at least there will be spots for you in family med or internal if you pass all the boards. There is no such "guarantee" on the islands.

LUCOM may very well prove to be an exception from this rule.

 

[NontradCA]

As an atheist who applied and attended an interview at this school, I would recommend that you do NOT bother going to the interview.

This school is extremely religious and even though they claim to accept people of all religious backgrounds, I couldn't help but feel uncomfortable when I was in the facility. Please do note that I do have friends who are religious (Christian included) and I get along fine with religious people; however, I knew that I could not ever attend this school and I'm quite happy the admissions committee sensed that and gave me a rejection (my MCAT/GPA were above avg of their school).

Some other things that bothered me was:

1. They didn't bother going over the curriculum of the school even though the entire interview process was from 8AM - 3PM.

2. The actual interview was with 2 faculty members; one asked me a question regarding osteopathic medicine and then spent 15 mins talking about why I should attend this school. I felt flustered as I wasn't even able to represent myself.

3. They barely mentioned anything about rotations except vaguely stating that it is "being established'. In comparison to MUCOM for example which is only a year older, MUCOM was able to confidently show their curriculum and their affiliated hospitals for rotations.

4. Near the end of the interview date, my entire group had to individually share each of our traits/extracurricular activities and everyone was Christian/maybe Catholic. I personally felt awkward and singled out when it was my turn to express my extracurricular.

I would like to mention though that I believe LUCOM does have potential to become a great and well established osteopathic medical school; however, do not underestimate the amount of Christian influence this school would have on you.

Good luck!

Edit: If a LUCOM student would reply, he/she would probably be a better representation of the school environment than me. This post was simply my overall impression of the school.

No offense, but this sounds no different than every other medical school interview. Perhaps it's your own bias that tainted your view of the interview going in.

 

[GypsyHummus]

LUCOM may very well prove to be an exception from this rule.

Why do you say that

 

[breezy124]

@reapplicanthelpme2014

Say what ever you want; Im a douchebag, I feel good about disrepecting others, etc...

I only boast about my own education so that I can provide justification for the things I say.
You may very well go to a top 15, but (judgeing by your avatar) you seem like URM, would you say your stats are very competitive? Otherwise, you shouldn't really be even considering lower end DO schools . Please correct me if im wrong, i do not want to make assumptions or seem racist.

I am ORM. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I have no problem being rude to clear out someone who's so ignorant that he or she can't understand that the education at LU is subpar, and LUCOM will not have anything favorable for it's students in terms of teaching you how to become a good doctor and gaining a good residency. Thus, it is not a good school.

 

[touchpause13]

@reapplicanthelpme2014

Say what ever you want; Im a douchebag, I feel good about disrepecting others, etc...

I only boast about my own education so that I can provide justification for the things I say.
You may very well go to a top 15, but (judgeing by your avatar) you seem like URM, would you say your stats are very competitive? Otherwise, you shouldn't really be even considering lower end DO schools . Please correct me if im wrong, i do not want to make assumptions or seem racist.

I am ORM. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I have no problem being rude to clear out someone who's so ignorant that he or she can't understand that the education at LU is subpar, and LUCOM will not have anything favorable for it's students in terms of teaching you how to become a good doctor and gaining a good residency. Thus, it is not a good school.

Omg


This is easily one of the most racist things I've seen in the pre med forums

 

[MetricSystem]

@reapplicanthelpme2014

Say what ever you want; Im a douchebag, I feel good about disrepecting others, etc...

I only boast about my own education so that I can provide justification for the things I say.
You may very well go to a top 15, but (judgeing by your avatar) you seem like URM, would you say your stats are very competitive? Otherwise, you shouldn't really be even considering lower end DO schools . Please correct me if im wrong, i do not want to make assumptions or seem racist.

I am ORM. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I have no problem being rude to clear out someone who's so ignorant that he or she can't understand that the education at LU is subpar, and LUCOM will not have anything favorable for it's students in terms of teaching you how to become a good doctor and gaining a good residency. Thus, it is not a good school.

Avatar shows that there is a dragon... Maybe you belong at LUCOM after all...

 

[AlteredScale]

@reapplicanthelpme2014

Say what ever you want; Im a douchebag, I feel good about disrepecting others, etc...

I only boast about my own education so that I can provide justification for the things I say.
You may very well go to a top 15, but (judgeing by your avatar) you seem like URM, would you say your stats are very competitive? Otherwise, you shouldn't really be even considering lower end DO schools . Please correct me if im wrong, i do not want to make assumptions or seem racist.

I am ORM. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I have no problem being rude to clear out someone who's so ignorant that he or she can't understand that the education at LU is subpar, and LUCOM will not have anything favorable for it's students in terms of teaching you how to become a good doctor and gaining a good residency. Thus, it is not a good school.

The level of pretentious in this post is mind boggling. You just boasted feeling good about belittling others, and I cannot imagine how that'll trickle down when you meet patients who are fundamentalist or perhaps a medical student from LUCOM who is rotating on your service.

The cherry on top of all of this is that you just assumed someone to be a URM because of their avatar and then assumed they had lower stats because of it? So disrespectful. Would not want you as a colleague nor as my or my family's doctor.

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

@reapplicanthelpme2014

Say what ever you want; Im a douchebag, I feel good about disrepecting others, etc...

I only boast about my own education so that I can provide justification for the things I say.
You may very well go to a top 15, but (judgeing by your avatar) you seem like URM, would you say your stats are very competitive? Otherwise, you shouldn't really be even considering lower end DO schools . Please correct me if im wrong, i do not want to make assumptions or seem racist.

I am ORM. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I have no problem being rude to clear out someone who's so ignorant that he or she can't understand that the education at LU is subpar, and LUCOM will not have anything favorable for it's students in terms of teaching you how to become a good doctor and gaining a good residency. Thus, it is not a good school.

You don't want to seem racist by saying something racist? I cannot even fathom the mindset behind this post. My MCAT is higher than yours and my graduate GPA is a 4.0. Please do NOT disrespect me on this forum because you think I'm a URM who just grazed on by while you "worked your ass off". That sense of entitlement and privilege will get you NOWHERE, even with your "multiple acceptances". I've worked just as hard as you if not harder, so don't go around assuming what you don't know.

FWIW, I didn't apply to Liberty and I wouldn't. I'm not defending Liberty, and that's not why I commented on your post. What I am against is the arrogant, egotistical, disrespectful posts you've been spewing out of your a$$hole on this forum. Sit the fck down with your holier than thou attitude.

 

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Looking at this dude's previous posts, he obviously has an issue with URMs. Gross. #byefelicia

 

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I for one, actually am I cat wearing a fez

 

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@reapplicanthelpme2014

Say what ever you want; Im a douchebag, I feel good about disrepecting others, etc...

I only boast about my own education so that I can provide justification for the things I say.
You may very well go to a top 15, but (judgeing by your avatar) you seem like URM, would you say your stats are very competitive? Otherwise, you shouldn't really be even considering lower end DO schools . Please correct me if im wrong, i do not want to make assumptions or seem racist.

I am ORM. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I have no problem being rude to clear out someone who's so ignorant that he or she can't understand that the education at LU is subpar, and LUCOM will not have anything favorable for it's students in terms of teaching you how to become a good doctor and gaining a good residency. Thus, it is not a good school.

As if URMs often don't have to work hard to overcome the countless disadvantages that come with being judged on things they cannot control, and additionally and unfortunately often the burden of a lower socioeconomic status. Sounds like you don't know what ignorance really is.

 

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As if URMs often don't have to work hard to overcome the countless disadvantages that come with being judged on things they cannot control, and additionally and unfortunately often the burden of a lower socioeconomic status. Sounds like you don't know what ignorance really is.

He sounds like the epitome of ignorance and entitlement, actually.