Silly question - NBME-only schools?

[Cellfie]

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Hello all! Is there a simple way to find med schools that use NBME-only exams? (other than searching each school's curriculum)

(cross-posted to DO forum)

 

[libertyyne]

Hello all! Is there a simple way to find med schools that use NBME-only exams? (other than searching each school's curriculum)

(cross-posted to DO forum)

ask the school.

 

[Dr. Doctor MD]

Hello all! Is there a simple way to find med schools that use NBME-only exams? (other than searching each school's curriculum)

(cross-posted to DO forum)

No unfortunately there is no simple way. You would need to check school websites or call the schools to find out. It's worth it though as NBME exams >>> In house exams

 

[libertyyne]

Something to ask med students when you interview. Along with how well their school prepares them for step

You will unanimously hear “step scores are individual effort” or some unhelpful platitude like that. Keep digging and you will uncover student’s attitude towards the actual curriculum

Ie: NBME schools have better tests than in house exams. Moreover, if a schools avg is 240s they are bound to have a better curricula than a school whose avg is in the 220s.

School averages are directly correlated to incoming MCAT averages. So it doesn't necessarily reflect better curricula.
Most people only get into one school so it doesn't really matter.
Step 1 score averages are gamed because they are reported in a non standardized way by each school.
Asking if the school has NBME exams only is a good question.
Another good question is how much mandatory in class room time one has and how much dedicated time one has.
Does the school take step after m3 or m2?
Make no mistake step scores are an individual effort.

 

[Thesimplelifeofamyloid]

School averages are directly correlated to incoming MCAT averages. So it doesn't necessarily reflect better curricula.
Most people only get into one school so it doesn't really matter.
Step 1 score averages are gamed because they are reported in a non standardized way by each school.
Asking if the school has NBME exams only is a good question.
Another good question is how much mandatory in class room time one has and how much dedicated time one has.
Does the school take step after m3 or m2?
Make no mistake step scores are an individual effort.

How?

 

[libertyyne]

How?

Any number of tricks, reporting scores without reporting students were held back, reporting without reporting failures, reporting students who took it on time vs those who delayed. Ever wonder how every school has an above average step score ?

 

[Splenda88]

Something to ask med students when you interview. Along with how well their school prepares them for step

You will unanimously hear “step scores are individual effort” or some unhelpful platitude like that. Keep digging and you will uncover student’s attitude towards the actual curriculum

Ie: NBME schools have better tests than in house exams. Moreover, if a schools avg is 240s they are bound to have a better curricula than a school whose avg is in the 220s.

I would say better student body...

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

School averages are directly correlated to incoming MCAT averages. So it doesn't necessarily reflect better curricula.
Most people only get into one school so it doesn't really matter.
Step 1 score averages are gamed because they are reported in a non standardized way by each school.
Asking if the school has NBME exams only is a good question.
Another good question is how much mandatory in class room time one has and how much dedicated time one has.
Does the school take step after m3 or m2?
Make no mistake step scores are an individual effort.

Isn’t the correlation like 0.6?

 

[libertyyne]

Isn’t the correlation like 0.6?

yes. .62

What is interesting in this chart is that the mean mcat score for admission is ~510-512 and that correlated with the mean step score of ~230

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

yes. .62
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What is interesting in this chart is that the mean mcat score for admission is ~510-512 and that correlated with the mean step score of ~230

So there’s a moderate correlation. Makes sense though.

 

[7331poas]

So there’s a moderate correlation. Makes sense though.

.62 is a pretty good correlation for something so distinct as mcat versus step 1 performance.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

.62 is a pretty good correlation for something so distinct as mcat versus step 1 performance.

Yeah moderate is pretty good. Not great but not weak.