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EDIT: This was supposed to be a thread about the first day of SN2. However as with all intelligent life, things evolve. This thread has now become a support page for people following the SN2 plan. You can think of it as Alcoholics Anonymous for people studying to take the MCAT using the SN2 plan.

EDIT July 1, 2014:
If you are interested in @mehc012's Anki Deck, DO NOT SEND A PM. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7if6wgaif98rkoa/mehc012 SN2edCh4s.apkg
**A NOTE: @mehc012 and several others (myself included) want to tell you guys that studying from another person's deck will probably not be as beneficial to you as creating your own cards. Yes you can take advantage of @mehc012's generosity, but you won't get the same advantage. Study the material. Create cards as you go along. You will find it more helpful to your studying. **

EDIT July 22, 2014:
The following is @TBRBiosadist's official MCAT Verbal Reasoning Strategy:
@TBRBiosadist's strategy that got [him] from a 7 average to scoring 13-15 average..

Spend the bulk of your time reading. Up to 3 minutes per passage.
  • Read the first and last paragraph thoroughly to begin with. Understand what the authors main point will be because 90% of questions require nothing more than a general idea.
  • After this, read the entire passage slowly enough where you dont feel like you need to reread sentences for understanding.
Next is just answer questions, there is a few tricks here that work about 90% of the time
  • Unless the passage is asking you about a specific detail, dont look back. READ EVERY ANSWER THOROUGLY AND THEN Answer what makes sense from the general point of the passage. Its very easy to prove a wrong answer to be somewhat correct if you dig hard enough, dont. Answer what your gut says and move onto the next question, dont contemplate to much. With that being said...
  • Answer like you were dropped on the head as a child. Alot of times if Im arguing between two answers, there is the answer that is 100% correct, and one that is 90% correct. Be an idoit and choose the one that seems like it is correct. However.....
  • "Always" is a word to avoid. If an answer uses this word, or definites like it, it is something to avoid. I would say 80% of the time the wishy washy answer is more correct then the highly affirmative one. This leads to my final point....
  • 100% of the time you are not actually looking for the "right" answer in verbal, this isnt PS or BS where 1+1 almost always equals 2 (unless we are talking about the different sedimentation values for Ribosomes). In verbal you are looking for the answer that isnt wrong. Often times an answer will seem very "right" but one aspect of it is clearly wrong, as compared to an answer that isnt wrong, but doesnt seem as right as that answer, these are meant to fool you. Choose the answer that isnt wrong.
I understand that I few of these tips may be at odds with each other. Ultimately you must adjust slightly for each passage, but it comes down to one thing. Read thoroughly. Read every sentence in the passage. Read every question. Read every answer. Then the correct answer will be fairly obvious. This may seem like it takes longer, but it takes much less time than skimming, and then trying to find the correct information later.

Or to summarize in one sentence

Understand what the hell the author is arguing

EDIT July 26, 2014:

@DoctorInASaree uploaded a guide to Verbal Reasoning. If you're interested, it's worth a look. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2byivymmqwlvjms/MCAT VR Primer DRSAREE.pdf

EDIT 2, July 26, 2014: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/sn2d-first-day.1074344/page-52#post-15510851
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Just finished the first day of SN2...man is it long and exhausting.

The first day is BR physics chapter (translational motion) + 1/3 of the passages. I felt like I wasn't able to apply the stuff I read into the stuff I was tested on.

Has anyone felt this way when following the schedule? It just seems like the contents of the chapter didn't really stick in my head when I took the practice passages. Will this improve over time?

EDIT 3, March 4, 2015:

For verbal, if you are feeling lost and confused, I highly highly recommend you to look into the MCAT Strategy Course by @Jack Westin. I've been working with him, and nothing comes close to his course and teaching. It's a strategy course, so it will cover everything, not just the VR/CARS section.
 
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So, I applied to this super cool program
www.premedsurgery.org
Tomorrow is the deadline to find out if we get an interview.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY want an interview

MCAT freakouts on hold...time to stress over internship. Which is apparently not infrequently a few days late on notification for interviews. Which of course does not mitigate my stress AT ALL.
 
So when I started college I never drank coffee, intermittently drank coffee during finals but never regularly
Started drinking coffee 1x/day and now I'm up to 20oz coffee 2x/day
Me all the time --> :wideyed:
I use to be the same when I was at Jamaica I always made fun of Americans calling them coffee zombies .. But since I started this program im like this
 
in other news this aamc will continue my current course of failing to test at test time. I swear the earliest ive started is 9am

That's OK. Just go a little late to testing center (5-10 min) so that all the other people are ahead of you. By the time you get called it will be like 8:30-8:40am. When they call you, ask to use the restroom first. Now you are at 8:45am. Then you sit down, get acclimated, stare at your name for 5 minutes, do the 10 min tutorial, etc, and now you are passed 9am. That's what I did.
 
I don't know who this will apply to but having done the SN2 schedule and taken multiple AAMCs now I finally was able to raise my score to where I would ideally want it but here are my thoughts about this whole process... 5 weeks before my exam. I think that this test is really a test of your common sense and literal thinking. I think that a lot of us (I know I did) go into it thinking oh this is going to be some complicated feat that cannot be accomplished and I am probably going to have to apply multivariable calculus to get the right answer. NO. the answer is no you don't. If I could talked to myself 3 months ago I would tell myself to TAKE AN AAMC (any of them really) BEFORE studying. Honestly I cannot emphasize HOW MUCH my score raised because I took time to analyze the test, understand the test writer, and look for patterns test after test. Kind of cliche but to win in battle you have to understand your enemy, their tactics, how they think.

HALF (probably close to like 60%) of getting in the double digits in my opinion is knowing HOW to approach a question, it took me a few AAMCs to get that(maybe because I need more time , some people get it right off the bat but for me it was different). The other 40% is knowing your content because you need to apply what you know to that question. Anyway. sorry for the long rant, I just had to process everything because the MCAT IS AN OBSTACLE that you can overcome and I finally have that mentality instead of "great all my hopes and dreams of becoming a physician are down the drain due to this test)"

love,
Orange


@orangetea always speaking MCAT gospel

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I don't know who this will apply to but having done the SN2 schedule and taken multiple AAMCs now I finally was able to raise my score to where I would ideally want it but here are my thoughts about this whole process... 5 weeks before my exam. I think that this test is really a test of your common sense and literal thinking. I think that a lot of us (I know I did) go into it thinking oh this is going to be some complicated feat that cannot be accomplished and I am probably going to have to apply multivariable calculus to get the right answer. NO. the answer is no you don't. If I could talked to myself 3 months ago I would tell myself to TAKE AN AAMC (any of them really) BEFORE studying. Honestly I cannot emphasize HOW MUCH my score raised because I took time to analyze the test, understand the test writer, and look for patterns test after test. Kind of cliche but to win in battle you have to understand your enemy, their tactics, how they think.

HALF (probably close to like 60%) of getting in the double digits in my opinion is knowing HOW to approach a question, it took me a few AAMCs to get that(maybe because I need more time , some people get it right off the bat but for me it was different). The other 40% is knowing your content because you need to apply what you know to that question. Anyway. sorry for the long rant, I just had to process everything because the MCAT IS AN OBSTACLE that you can overcome and I finally have that mentality instead of "great all my hopes and dreams of becoming a physician are down the drain due to this test)"

love,
Orange

Dunno how I missed this post but orange I think this calls for some celebratory chocolate chip cookies
 
Have you guys ever woke up smiling that you will be studying today instead of going out ?? Woke up today and I was thinking to my self ***** I need to do my physics passages finish gen chem and orgo chapters today , this will be fun I hope I can do all of it. Dam this is the 4th night I only got 3 and a half hours of sleep* Honestly I find it odd that im enjoying it is this some kind of conditional trick by my brain to just deal with a difficult situation ? And will this excitement go away when the FL exams come around ?
 
Have you guys ever woke up smiling that you will be studying today instead of going out ?? Woke up today and I was thinking to my self ***** I need to do my physics passages finish gen chem and orgo chapters today , this will be fun I hope I can do all of it. Dam this is the 4th night I only got 3 and a half hours of sleep* Honestly I find it odd that im enjoying it is this some kind of conditional trick by my brain to just deal with a difficult situation ? And will this excitement go away when the FL exams come around ?
something something stockholm
 
Ok after now finishing AAMC 8 (14/15/14*) (*well 15 if you dont count a mismark) I think I have nailed the secret to the MCAT

The secret is be a really smart *******
Let me explain

Funnily enough ive realized that OVER-STUDYING CAN HURT YOU AS MUCH AS UNDERSTUDYING. The thing is during the MCAT, where you are drawing from all the various different facets of the subject, a good 95% of the problems are ultimately asking something extremely simple. With this though means that with too much information in your head, you can easily get the answer wrong. I'm finding I'm missing mostly questions where I question my gut and ignore some knee jerk reflexes, so I change my answer. The reason I change my answer is I start thinking of all the little intricacies and corollaries I know of my own knowledge. The text (this not an actual problem, just example) specifically said that the reaction is exothermic, but because I started thinking about inter-molecular bonding, buffering, and quantum physics, I convinced myself that it was actually endothermic, when the passage SPECIFICALLY SAID IT WAS EXOTHERMIC. A real example is a problem that kept me away from a 15 on physics. The passage gave me a value, then asked for that value, I convinced myself it was 1/2 of that value becuase I started bringing other elements into play.

At the end of the day we must remove the idea that the mcat is trying to trick us. It is not. Ultimately the MCAT is a very difficult, but fair test. A person with good general background knowledge should be able to get a 11-12 on the sections.


Occasionally there are those dingus problems that require super-specific details and try to trick you, but they are few and far between. Their existence is to separate a 11 or 12 from a 13-15. If you are shooting for mid-30s, these should not worry you
 
Judging by your scores after AAMC 3 it really seems like you've nailed down verbal. I've been using your strategy and I gotta say it's been pretty helpful. Except of course for some stupid garbage EK 101 questions, for which as many as 3 answers seem equally good sometimes.
 
Judging by your scores after AAMC 3 it really seems like you've nailed down verbal. I've been using your strategy and I gotta say it's been pretty helpful. Except of course for some stupid garbage EK 101 questions, for which as many as 3 answers seem equally good sometimes.
EK101 is garbage. Did 10 passages from it, checked my answers, "Its C because we said so, f*** you" and never picked that book up again. That book couldn't be more wrong.
 
EK101 is garbage. Did 10 passages from it, checked my answers, "Its C because we said so, f*** you" and never picked that book up again. That book couldn't be more wrong.

So what sources did you use for verbal practice then? My impression was the more passages the better, but now I'm skeptical...
 
The more passage post-game the better.
The key to succeeding on verbal: figure out the main idea of the passage, and run with it.
That's literally all you need to hit 10+ on verbal
I don't want to hit 10+. I want more. And I'm not getting it. 😡+pissed+
 
Judging by your scores after AAMC 3 it really seems like you've nailed down verbal. I've been using your strategy and I gotta say it's been pretty helpful. Except of course for some stupid garbage EK 101 questions, for which as many as 3 answers seem equally good sometimes.

I've been using tbrbiosadist's strategy as well and it has done wonders for me....on paper. I went from averaging 7's to 9-10 now (again working in EK verbal).
However, I just took the verbal self assessment and did horrible. I'm sure a good part of this is just nerves and unfamiliarity with reading passages and answering questions on the computer. I was just wondering, does anyone highlight passages on CBT full lengths? I tried doing this halfway through the verbal assessment in an effort to keep me actively reading but I found myself running out of time. Any suggestions? How do you keep focused on a verbal passage?
 
I've been using tbrbiosadist's strategy as well and it has done wonders for me....on paper. I went from averaging 7's to 9-10 now (again working in EK verbal).
However, I just took the verbal self assessment and did horrible. I'm sure a good part of this is just nerves and unfamiliarity with reading passages and answering questions on the computer. I was just wondering, does anyone highlight passages on CBT full lengths? I tried doing this halfway through the verbal assessment in an effort to keep me actively reading but I found myself running out of time. Any suggestions? How do you keep focused on a verbal passage?
I switched to that strategy and saw absolutely zero improvement.

Actually, VR is pissing me off. I have never had any trouble whatsoever with verbal reasoning, especially on standardized tests. And now MCAT. I don't get it. It's honestly just depressing.
 
Everyone's got their own strategy that works for them. I've tried several.
First I tried reading the questions before reading the passage, that helped slightly. Then I tried reading questions first, then read the passage and underline/highlight. That helped but I then started running out of time. So far his strategy is the one the I see the most improvement from. Haven't tried Kaplan's mapping method and I don't plan to either lol.
 
Everyone's got their own strategy that works for them. I've tried several.
First I tried reading the questions before reading the passage, that helped slightly. Then I tried reading questions first, then read the passage and underline/highlight. That helped but I then started running out of time. So far his strategy is the one the I see the most improvement from. Haven't tried Kaplan's mapping method and I don't plan to either lol.
At this point I am
Reading the 1st and last paragraphs
Reading all questions.
Reading the full passage.
Answering all questions, going back to the passage as often as needed.

I figured that I read very very quickly, so I may as well use it. Not helping.

I need to go back to my original strategy, which was simply 'read quickly, then answer questions, rereading the passage as often as needed to answer'...my score has gone down the more I try to think about things. Like, substantially down. Plus my time/passage has nearly doubled. Either that or TPRH gets harder as you go through.

Either way, I have never been scoring at the level I want and I CANNOT figure out why.
 
What's your verbal average and what score are you trying to hit?

I know it's nearly impossible to get a 15 on the real thing ( not to discourage you or anything). I'm around 9-10 in the prep books but those aren't representative of the real thing plus I hate Ek's reasoning. I completely gave up reading they're answer keys. If I do passages out of that book it's just to practice reading, better than nothing right?

I actually just started using the official mcat guide today. There's only 6 verbal passages but at least I can read AAMC's reasoning for questions I get wrong and train myself to think like them and not like [insert prep company].
 
What's your verbal average and what score are you trying to hit?

I know it's nearly impossible to get a 15 on the real thing ( not to discourage you or anything). I'm around 9-10 in the prep books but those aren't representative of the real thing plus I hate Ek's reasoning. I completely gave up reading they're answer keys. If I do passages out of that book it's just to practice reading, better than nothing right?

I actually just started using the official mcat guide today. There's only 6 verbal passages but at least I can read AAMC's reasoning for questions I get wrong and train myself to think like them and not like [insert prep company].
My average is a 10 in TPRH.
I want at least a 12, but frankly, I'd probably be pretty disappointed with even that. I have never gotten below the 99.9th percentile on any reading comprehension type thing before...not SATs, 2 AP English exams, countless practice AP English exams (I used to outscore my teacher on them), what have you. Until MCAT VR. Now I am meh, and I'm not OK with it.
 
My average is a 10 in TPRH.
I want at least a 12, but frankly, I'd probably be pretty disappointed with even that. I have never gotten below the 99.9th percentile on any reading comprehension type thing before...not SATs, 2 AP English exams, countless practice AP English exams (I used to outscore my teacher on them), what have you. Until MCAT VR. Now I am meh, and I'm not OK with it.


12, heck even 10 is nothiiiiinng to be disappointed with. Personally, anything over 10 for me is just gravy (that has yet too happen). Have you tried doing the self assessments or any AAMC verbal? They're different from the prep books. TPRH is the closest thing to AAMC but it's still not AAMC. Who knows, you may actually score higher than you did in any prep book . I think getting over 12 may require a little bit of luck too. I wish you luck!
 
12, heck even 10 is nothiiiiinng to be disappointed with. Personally, anything over 10 for me is just gravy (that has yet too happen). Have you tried doing the self assessments or any AAMC verbal? They're different from the prep books. TPRH is the closest thing to AAMC but it's still not AAMC. Who knows, you may actually score higher than you did in any prep book . I think getting over 12 may require a little bit of luck too. I wish you luck!
No, I'm not burning FLs yet. I want to do the SA, but don't you have to finish the whole thing to have it graded? I'm thinking I'll do that on Hat Trick day (which is coming up!!)

Also, putting a TBR question out there for anyone (hidden in the long quote below to prevent spoilers):
TBR Physics Ch7 said:
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Ahhh, the infamous 'toilet question'
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In the solutions, it is stated that "In order to have water flow...there must be a net pressure difference, where the gauge pressure is greater at the output end"
Isn't that backwards? I thought flow always occurred from a region of higher pressure to lower pressure.
That's the only one I missed on this passage...for me, that right there invalidated option II, which made B the only possible choice (I wasn't hugely happy about I being true, but rationalized it as 'you could have flow from low to high if the net pressure difference was out<in, but you could not have flow from low to high pressures, ever'.
 
AAMC 10 SPIOILER ALERT BELOW

Ok after now finishing AAMC 8 (14/15/14*) (*well 15 if you dont count a mismark) I think I have nailed the secret to the MCAT

The secret is be a really smart *******
Let me explain

Funnily enough ive realized that OVER-STUDYING CAN HURT YOU AS MUCH AS UNDERSTUDYING. The thing is during the MCAT, where you are drawing from all the various different facets of the subject, a good 95% of the problems are ultimately asking something extremely simple. With this though means that with too much information in your head, you can easily get the answer wrong. I'm finding I'm missing mostly questions where I question my gut and ignore some knee jerk reflexes, so I change my answer. The reason I change my answer is I start thinking of all the little intricacies and corollaries I know of my own knowledge. The text (this not an actual problem, just example) specifically said that the reaction is exothermic, but because I started thinking about inter-molecular bonding, buffering, and quantum physics, I convinced myself that it was actually endothermic, when the passage SPECIFICALLY SAID IT WAS EXOTHERMIC. A real example is a problem that kept me away from a 15 on physics. The passage gave me a value, then asked for that value, I convinced myself it was 1/2 of that value becuase I started bringing other elements into play.

At the end of the day we must remove the idea that the mcat is trying to trick us. It is not. Ultimately the MCAT is a very difficult, but fair test. A person with good general background knowledge should be able to get a 11-12 on the sections.


Occasionally there are those dingus problems that require super-specific details and try to trick you, but they are few and far between. Their existence is to separate a 11 or 12 from a 13-15. If you are shooting for mid-30s, these should not worry you

I noticed this several times today while taking AAMC 10. Which one of these is the liver not involved in? detox, digestion of fats, production of bile, or blood pressure regulation. Of course my gut says blood pressure. But then I think, "well, technically the liver doesn't really aid in the digestion of fats, it produces the bile and CCK and what not, the gallbladder stores it, and it all gets released into the duodenum when the digestion goes down. So, really, the small intestine is doing the digestion of fats and secreting that stuff into the lacteals. And, the liver does regulate alot of blood sugar stuff, perhaps increasing the glucose in the blood by glucagon breakdown increases the blood osmolarity - and thus, increases the volume of the blood, which in turn increases the blood pressure. So, ha, the liver actually does help regulate blood pressure!!"

Of course, it didn't and I got it wrong, and spent like 2 minutes on this unnecessarily. #FML.

Ha, MCAT in 3 days... Haven't managed to break my average of 31 despite my high score of 34 on AAMC 9 🙁

Edit: AAMC 10 spoiler alert added
 
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I noticed this several times today while taking AAMC 10. Which one of these is the liver not involved in? detox, digestion of fats, production of bile, or blood pressure regulation. Of course my gut says blood pressure. But then I think, "well, technically the liver doesn't really aid in the digestion of fats, it produces the bile and CCK and what not, the gallbladder stores it, and it all gets released into the duodenum when the digestion goes down. So, really, the small intestine is doing the digestion of fats and secreting that stuff into the lacteals. And, the liver does regulate alot of blood sugar stuff, perhaps increasing the glucose in the blood by glucagon breakdown increases the blood osmolarity - and thus, increases the volume of the blood, which in turn increases the blood pressure. So, ha, the liver actually does help regulate blood pressure!!"

Of course, it didn't and I got it wrong, and spent like 2 minutes on this unnecessarily. #FML.

Ha, MCAT in 3 days... Haven't managed to break my average of 31 despite my high score of 34 on AAMC 9 🙁

Might want to add a spoiler alert before the message lol
 
I noticed this several times today while taking AAMC 10. Which one of these is the liver not involved in? detox, digestion of fats, production of bile, or blood pressure regulation. Of course my gut says blood pressure. But then I think, "well, technically the liver doesn't really aid in the digestion of fats, it produces the bile and CCK and what not, the gallbladder stores it, and it all gets released into the duodenum when the digestion goes down. So, really, the small intestine is doing the digestion of fats and secreting that stuff into the lacteals. And, the liver does regulate alot of blood sugar stuff, perhaps increasing the glucose in the blood by glucagon breakdown increases the blood osmolarity - and thus, increases the volume of the blood, which in turn increases the blood pressure. So, ha, the liver actually does help regulate blood pressure!!"

Of course, it didn't and I got it wrong, and spent like 2 minutes on this unnecessarily. #FML.

Ha, MCAT in 3 days... Haven't managed to break my average of 31 despite my high score of 34 on AAMC 9 🙁
Though, really, angiotensinogen is generated by the liver...as are the majority of the proteins used to maintain oncotic pressure in the capillaries, which is crucial for preventing edema (aka why liver failure pts end up with anasarca)...plus googling finds http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110126121500.htm

So...take that, MCAT...as my score goes down...never mind
 
Might want to add a spoiler alert before the message lol
Yes please! I know AAMC 10 is a long ways off, but I will remember. Today I finally found (and recognized, and recalled the discussion of) a TBR passage which I discussed on here 1.5yrs ago.
 
For those kind of questions, there's going be a no, no, maybe, and yes. Always go with the yes and don't dwell on the maybe. If liver function is impaired, blood pressure will not be affected as much since the kidneys play a major role. Absorption of fats on the other hand relies heavily on liver function (bile production).
 
If you are invited for an interview, you will be contacted by July 30, 2014 at 11:59pm PST
It is now 11:59pm on July 30th.
No emails, positive or negative.
:boom:

Gonna do one set of TBR and recheck when I'm done...probably won't hear for a few days, but still.
I guess I just hope that no news is no news, rather than no news is bad news :/
 
Never mind, I am the stupidest human alive. Been using my alumni email since graduation for professional situations. It has always worked before, and is supposed to always work. Just sent a test email, and it's not working. So now I have no idea what to do. I'm pretty sure I won't be getting their email, so now I'll never know, and if I have an interview, I'm screwed. Plus, since I don't have the email, I don't know whether they made the decision yet...I would call to try and figure it out, but I don't want to be that person calling the day after the decision was supposed to go out when in fact they're a day or so behind.
AGADLSGHAEOGHDASOKGHREOGHREOIGHRWEOGHRWEGHEGIH I AM SO UPSET AT MYSELF
 
Cant win the lotto if you don't buy a ticket .. I bet the person who is sending out emails don't have much say on who gets accepted or not. And if you explain the situation they would happily reroute to a active email account
 
Might want to add a spoiler alert before the message lol

Yes please! I know AAMC 10 is a long ways off, but I will remember. Today I finally found (and recognized, and recalled the discussion of) a TBR passage which I discussed on here 1.5yrs ago.

AAMC 10 spoiler alert added! Billy Goat Gruff!
 
No, I'm not burning FLs yet. I want to do the SA, but don't you have to finish the whole thing to have it graded? I'm thinking I'll do that on Hat Trick day (which is coming up!!)

Also, putting a TBR question out there for anyone (hidden in the long quote below to prevent spoilers):

Yeah. It won't be graded until you finish. I think there's 120 questions. Should keep you busy for 3 days ( Don't do it in one sitting, you will burn out)
 
Last day of content review. I'm so happy to get this done with. Today is just reading bio. It feels great to end 2 months of work with just reading. I didn't follow sn2 entirely this last few days but that's ok. I've got 14 tests + SA I need to do, plus ek1001 and the rest of 3/3 BR passages


Also HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE FINDING GIFS SO WELL. IS THERE A GIF BANK IM UNAWARE OF?
 
Last day of content review. I'm so happy to get this done with. Today is just reading bio. It feels great to end 2 months of work with just reading. I didn't follow sn2 entirely this last few days but that's ok. I've got 14 tests + SA I need to do, plus ek1001 and the rest of 3/3 BR passages


Also HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE FINDING GIFS SO WELL. IS THERE A GIF BANK IM UNAWARE OF?


I mean even when you find them it's like which GIF do I use for this current situation.....!?!?!?


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