Snack WWars (Game Thread)

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i think beans has to go tomorrow.
if there are any vig left, just take a shot tonight because your success rate got a major increase

Though I'd take it on queen personally

Hmm.

I'm at Zenge/SAR/Clem/kitz/chic for town I'm most confident in.

I think the weakest of mine is chic because I know how suseptible I am to pocketing via effort. And I don't have any meta recollections there.

I think screams is likely a hit. I am not sure I can explain it well but she ~feels~ different this game. Kind of a #tone thing.

Alright, I'm going to ISO people throughout the day.

Scream: 3 pages of posts.
^This is scream's first real contribution, Saturday at 7:32 pm. Most of the previous engagement had been with me and spurs over mac and peas.





So this was after Samac recommended Beans should RR about 1h10m to close. Beans suggested Samac was fishing, and scream seemed to agree.


scream town reads Beans post non-yeet



scream seemed to be (reluctantly) town reading Zenge and had a similar response to Fruit's pushback as I did.


After fruit died, scream had been pretty quiet. There was some chit chat about a whole lot of nothing. I know I was becoming the consensus vote, but this feels like scream popped in, threw a vote out, and then didn't really add much. Zenge said it was interesting and Chic demanded an explanation, to which scream said "gut feeling".

I went back and forth with some people, and Clem, who has put me on some kind of village pedestal suddenly voted SAR. That's when the chain of SAR votes seems to start. Zenge put a scream vote up and scream hopped on the SAR, abandoning her "gut feeling.

Since then it's mostly been "I'll avenge" apop.

tldr this does not make me feel great about scream. I see very little solving, parroting reads and votes with the populous.

Hmm. So no one coming to scream's defense?
This is your idea of everyone was saying vote scream tomorrow when two of these posts are you?
 
This is your idea of everyone was saying vote scream tomorrow when two of these posts are you?
I was being a bit facetious, but Zenge and chic were also voting there yesterday and gave no indication their read there had changed. I hadn't seen anyone say they were town reading her.
 
Um I don't think I love the shooting SQB idea...like I'm not village reading her either but it feels risky to shoot when we are getting so close to parity
 
I think I agree with chic that I want to see what happens tonight first
 
Also, dubz, weren't you the one saying don't shoot earlier?
If a vig were to hit a villager tonight in addition to the wolf kill going through on a different villager and we do in fact have 4 wolves the game would be over

So uh

Maybe don't recommend that
What changed between then and now?
 
Also, dubz, weren't you the one saying don't shoot earlier?

What changed between then and now?
You'll notice in my post where I started this whole thing I was still leaning towards not shooting. But I am nothing if not a team player. I wanted to see what people would say.
 
Dubz is in my POE?

Dubz is in my POE.
Happy Like It GIF by pikaole
 
In favor of pew pew at screams: Clem


Not in favor of pew pew at screams: screams, chic, beans


Noncommital: rae, kitz, vampy


No comment at all: Zenge, SAR
I mean if you really want my opinion

That 70S Show Finger Guns GIF by Laff


Smhsmh sdn doesn't have THE Danny devito gif
 
I mean if you really want my opinion

That 70S Show Finger Guns GIF by Laff


Smhsmh sdn doesn't have THE Danny devito gif
I did! But alas, that part of the exercise is complete. We're moving on to phase 2.
 
7 pages long with like one relevant thing per page give me a gosh darn second
First of all, hurtful.

Second of all, if there's that much irrelevant stuff that should make it easier for you, not harder. Sounds like you have 7 relevant posts to read.

Third, I was just asking because you said I was in your POE and for everyone else you'd posted the read with the ISO.
 
Dubz: 7 pages

That reasoning is sus af 🙂
Susing spurs is not AI.

I find it interesting that me finding dubZ sus garnered a lot more of a reaction than apop doing the same
Apop didn't respond to me
This is villagey.

Yeet rae

@kaydubs

To get something on the board I can live with while I go eat food
Sheeping Samac also does not feel AI to me.


Not if he gets vig shot! That seems to happen to him a lot
Would village!dubz with a vig shot bring this up? Would wolf!dubz with a vig shot bring this up to make themselves look better?


I find vig shots to be the most effective 3p domesticators, and I prefer to use them on wolves.
You're a monster
Zenge js right fwiw 3p should be yeeted with extreme prejudice
This convo is actually supportive of a potential 3p dubz but with no scum flips and how far behind village is, I'm lumping this into scum category.


How confident are you in this?
Oh hat hat
That was a serious question!
I thought you were mocking the original question
Just need your vote fam. That’s our best weapon!
Idk I think our best weapon might be a gun?
This is probably more village than not but with my assessment of zenge and the fact that fruit was in fact village, I still don't like it.

:thinking:
I'm actually not mad about the distribution of beans's reads in this game state?

Y'all out here getting more than 3 strong village reads when we haven't yoten a wolf? What are you, psychic or something?
I feel like dubz being fine with a 9/12 wishy washy reads list feels wrong.


Let's stream some consciousness. This is largely based on impressions from when I've been here/real timing.

Zenge - village

Vampy - here and there little twitches but I think overall village solving energy. She picked up on stuff in beans's reasoning for her reads that I agree with

Pop - I don't think I'm allowed to read her

Chic - solving energy, I just have no recollection of her playstyle

SAR - I'm definitely not allowed to read her

Clem - village

screams - I think I've only seen two of her posts

Snacks - nooblet?

Fruit - he hit back HARD at Zenge's sus on him and I don't remember him being quite that immediately retaliatory when he's wolfing (maybe he knows that at this point but it gives me pause)

beans - I do think her reads are very very hedgey. I think she probably outs the yeet avoidance regardless of affiliation.

rae - maybe wolfy? I don't know that I have a good reason for that ping

I think I'm forgetting someone?
Our reads lists are so different here that either dubz isn't village or we're seeing two different games.

Welp. Sorry fruit.
I can't believe @Zenge142 made me do this
I still don't like this. A lot of us were sus reading fruit but it feels like dubz based this on zenge (again, who I am sus of in this context) and people saying "hmmm this feels like brute fruit". Could this be a bad vig shot? Yes. Has dubz joked she's bad at vig shots? Yes. Does it still feel wrong in context? Yes.


yeet rae

@kaydubs


You doth protest too much at me for someone who was contributing to the fruit sus
I was feeling okay about dubz but this is feeling incorrect.

I am always sus of fruit, and I don't like that dubz is saying "eh zenge said so why not"

I'm not normally a retaliatory voter but I am feeling paranoid

yeet dubz
@kaydubs
Walk me through your mental process here for a wolf using a day shot on someone who had a high likelihood of being misyoten
That's also not what I said, so don't put words in my mouth 🙂
Dubz has overall been pokey to me this whole game. Is it possible we're just having A Bad Time? Maybe. I don't remember dubz being this prickly to me in the past. It feels..... not villagey. I'm not saying wolf!dubz is a meanie, but she seems more cactus like than village dubz.

Wait just a minute @Zenge142

Why was your fruit sus samac's fault when she said he felt pure??


(This is just a point of interest to me, to be clear, I still think Zenge is village)
This is a fair point. Would dubz point this out if both zenge and dubz are wolves?

"High fluff ratio until today"

It's like you guys have never played with me before, istg


Anyway I want to clarify I did not shoot fruit JUST because of Zenge's read even though I jokingly blamed him. Yes it contributed. But I would not have shot fruit if others weren't also voicing suspicion there. I was looking to use the shot because I think it's better to use it early and I wanted to take out someone who was somewhat consensus POE. Unfortunately we're a bit disjointed overall and there wasn't that much consensus but, ya know.


Worth a shot? 🥁
Dubz has done a lot of "joking" and "being facetious" (see above on this page). It feels like every time someone has pointed out an inconsistency the defense was "it's a joke".

Would it be helpful if I shot a second person :thinking:
Nah I'm just screwing with ya. I shot my shot 🥲
Realizing dubz had already pulled the above hypothetical conversation early on, which feels weird. Why do the same hypothetical twice.


Smh I will do most anything as a wolf but I do it for the lulz, not for the WIFOM

I actually think it would be incredibly rude to make fruit relive CYO If I were a wolf. I don't find that kind of thing funny, and it would be unnecessary to shoot him specifically.
I do actually believe this statement. Which is unfortunate for me because it puts a wrench in my dubz is eel thoughts. Although she has brought up multipack a couple of times this game...

You think rae is bad vote?

Unyeet rae @kaydubs
I really don't understand the zenge/dubz/clem sheep circle.

If a vig were to hit a villager tonight in addition to the wolf kill going through on a different villager and we do in fact have 4 wolves the game would be over

So uh

Maybe don't recommend that
Yes dubz was running a hypothetical but I think Vampy pointing out that this was their stance, in conjunction with already joking about a second vig shot earlier on feels like a looooooot of flip flopping.


I guess in my universe I'm looking at beans/rae/scream +/- vampy ???

chic could in theory be a serial killer (anyone could be a serial killer)


I'm not sure how I feel about that POE now that I'm looking at it
Again, either we're viewing two different games or dubz is manufacturing her POE.

dubz has also been pokey at vampy. Don't feel the need to quote those posts and bring that back to thread.

tldr: dubz has done some villagey things, but the overarching vibes are not village. Between tone and inconsistencies something feels not right.
 
First of all, hurtful.

Second of all, if there's that much irrelevant stuff that should make it easier for you, not harder. Sounds like you have 7 relevant posts to read.

Third, I was just asking because you said I was in your POE and for everyone else you'd posted the read with the ISO.
I was having trouble because I'm trying to take things with context which means I had to make sure I checked the surrounding posts. 7 pages x 40 posts per page is still 280 posts, plus making sure I'm not cherry picking.
 
No dubz come back I was here for the shooting 🙁
No shooting! Phase 2 was going to be an additional thought exercise, kind of a GTH but with higher stakes. It doesn't matter though.

Dubz: 7 pages

Susing spurs is not AI.



This is villagey.


Sheeping Samac also does not feel AI to me.



Would village!dubz with a vig shot bring this up? Would wolf!dubz with a vig shot bring this up to make themselves look better?





This convo is actually supportive of a potential 3p dubz but with no scum flips and how far behind village is, I'm lumping this into scum category.








This is probably more village than not but with my assessment of zenge and the fact that fruit was in fact village, I still don't like it.


I feel like dubz being fine with a 9/12 wishy washy reads list feels wrong.



Our reads lists are so different here that either dubz isn't village or we're seeing two different games.



I still don't like this. A lot of us were sus reading fruit but it feels like dubz based this on zenge (again, who I am sus of in this context) and people saying "hmmm this feels like brute fruit". Could this be a bad vig shot? Yes. Has dubz joked she's bad at vig shots? Yes. Does it still feel wrong in context? Yes.






Dubz has overall been pokey to me this whole game. Is it possible we're just having A Bad Time? Maybe. I don't remember dubz being this prickly to me in the past. It feels..... not villagey. I'm not saying wolf!dubz is a meanie, but she seems more cactus like than village dubz.


This is a fair point. Would dubz point this out if both zenge and dubz are wolves?


Dubz has done a lot of "joking" and "being facetious" (see above on this page). It feels like every time someone has pointed out an inconsistency the defense was "it's a joke".



Realizing dubz had already pulled the above hypothetical conversation early on, which feels weird. Why do the same hypothetical twice.



I do actually believe this statement. Which is unfortunate for me because it puts a wrench in my dubz is eel thoughts. Although she has brought up multipack a couple of times this game...


I really don't understand the zenge/dubz/clem sheep circle.


Yes dubz was running a hypothetical but I think Vampy pointing out that this was their stance, in conjunction with already joking about a second vig shot earlier on feels like a looooooot of flip flopping.



Again, either we're viewing two different games or dubz is manufacturing her POE.

dubz has also been pokey at vampy. Don't feel the need to quote those posts and bring that back to thread.

tldr: dubz has done some villagey things, but the overarching vibes are not village. Between tone and inconsistencies something feels not right.
Look at that! More than 7 posts.

A lot of this feels like a direct repeat of the times we were at odds in CYO, particularly the incongruent reads. I think we just do view the game differently. You also said similar things about me and the people I was village reading in that game - that there had to be a wolf between me/Zenge/samac/shorty for example. I take the reads of the people I'm village reading into consideration, that is why you'll see me asking them about their reads and (sometimes) changing my stances based on those reads.

Maybe y'all just don't get my jokes? You're unlikely to find low level inconsistencies like what you're suggesting in my wolf play, I'm just not sloppy like that. When im village i just say what's in my head at any particular moment, and sometimes there's dumb **** in there. I was very clearly riffing off of the established meme of Zenge blaming samac when he misyeets people. On the other hand, me being bad at vig shots is not a joke. I can dig up the receipts if you like. I shoot into the general POE always but I almost always hit villagers.

As I said earlier, Zenge's read did contribute, his believing it hard enough to be campaigning for people to vote there did contribute. But I wouldn't have shot fruit if there was only one person suspicious of him. "A lot of us were sus reading fruit" is the important note there. It is also kind of funny to me that I decided to do it right after you added in your own support for the fruit!sus and you're the person who has given me the most **** about it. You wouldn't know of course that your post was what pushed things over the edge, but it just feels, to me, very disingenuous to be like "wow that was so wolfy" when I shot someone you were ostensibly okay with being yoten?

I don't feel like I've been all that prickly. Calling out something I find sus is not me being prickly, it's part of the game. Me asking you to walk me through the thought process was not be being prickly, it was legitimately me asking what the thought process was because I wanted you to support the position you were taking. And as for the last bit, I just don't like my words being misrepresented.

As I said to beans, my personal stance on a vig shooting someone tonight did not change. But for multiple reasons I thought it would be useful to carry on the conversation. That's not flip flopping. And I hadn't already done the hypothetical. There hadn't been any real conversation about it at the time. Both were things I said to see how people would respond, but very different executions. The full conversation tonight was actually like...a mental progression from the first time I brought it up. An escalation of sorts. It wasn't like I did the exact same thing twice.
 
I think my townreads are mostly scumreading each other so that's probably not ideal
 
I think my townreads are mostly scumreading each other so that's probably not ideal
I would like to change my mind on rae because of how much some of the stuff she's said and her general approach reminds me of CYO

I do kind of hit a conundrum at that point though. Very smol eel pool.
 
I would like to change my mind on rae because of how much some of the stuff she's said and her general approach reminds me of CYO

I do kind of hit a conundrum at that point though. Very smol eel pool.
Remind me where you're at now? I'm sorry I can't retain peoples reads at all this game it feels like
 
Remind me where you're at now? I'm sorry I can't retain peoples reads at all this game it feels like
Same tbh

I was at

POE:
scream
beans
rae
vampy

Village:
chic
kitz
SAR
Clem
Zenge

With some space for most people in my village pile to be a serial killer or something lol
 
I am noting the last time Clem had vampy in his town core (that I could recall and find) as an example for why I have a bit of trouble taking his word for it
Anyways I think AM/beans/Vamp/Zenge are town, that's one short of a lock I think. Mkg probably the slot I feel best about outside of that group but not by a ton. And dubz doesn't exist, of course
^ Because this was goats 3, the day he died



(Feel free to have the same hesitation for my read with regard to SAR tbh, I get it)
 
I am noting the last time Clem had vampy in his town core (that I could recall and find) as an example for why I have a bit of trouble taking his word for it

^ Because this was goats 3, the day he died
This is why I am nervous about vampy. Her wolf game looks soooooo similar to her village game that I struggle to tell the difference
 
I am noting the last time Clem had vampy in his town core (that I could recall and find) as an example for why I have a bit of trouble taking his word for it

^ Because this was goats 3, the day he died



(Feel free to have the same hesitation for my read with regard to SAR tbh, I get it)
I learned and adjusted
 
Maybe I'm bad this game too idk but I just don't see vampy as mafia here 🤷‍♀️

I will look closer Wednesday
 
why would i share that info for someone to store away for when i’m actually wolf?
I was just curious of your perspective. If you're going to say this isn't your wolf game it helps if you can say why.
 
I learned and adjusted

Maybe I'm bad this game too idk but I just don't see vampy as mafia here 🤷‍♀️

I will look closer Wednesday
You could be right this time I'm just explaining why I'm struggling with it. Because to me a lot of her play has reminded me of that game.
 
But I don't have great data since I think I modded all the other games she's played? Unless I'm forgetting something. And I don't pay enough attention when I'm modding to translate it to being able to read people when I'm playing.
 
Night Two

The players were reeling from the past two days. So many among their number had fallen. Who would be next!? Was this competition worth their lives?

As day dawned, another one found their answer.

Missing from the snack drawer is @chicandtoughness - Boba - village 1x ability seer

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It is now Day 3. Please vote for the most questionable among your number and that player will be eliminated. Vote closes at 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific TOMORROW, Wednesday, 2/11/26.

9 players remain

Roster
2. @screamqueenbee
3. @beans2020
5. @_rae_
6. @Clem J
7. @WildZoo
8. @kitzsuna
10. @vampyrica
12. @SARdoghandler
14. @Zenge142

Out of the Running for Best Snack
1. @GoSpursGo - Peanut M&Ms - village mason
11. overcastkidjuno - Bear Paws - village 2x blocker
13. @samac - Squashies - vanillager?
itb. @fruitsalad - Fruit cup - vanillager
67. @apoptosis09 - Pretzels - 1x village commuter
9. fruitsnack - Nilla wafers - [redacted] villager
4. @chicandtoughness - Boba - village 1x ability seer

Tots:
2. shorty
3. Barks
7. Stagg737​
 
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