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Y'all I have a confession -- with all this talk of working at McDonald's, I'm actually waiting tables at a local restaurant. I got the job over the holidays to help pay for Christmas gifts for our kids, but the money was so good I kept working through the winter and into the spring. But I'm feeling pretty let down by this process and I don't even want to show my face there tomorrow. I haven't told very many people there I have an MD. I don't want them to think that I should be "extra smart," or wonder why the hell I'm waiting tables when I could be saving lives. Explaining this process just takes too long.
 
Wow, to add insult to injury, I just NOW got a response from the NRMP about a ticket I submitted back during the first cycle when it said "generating offers" for over an hour. Their response? "Your issue has been resolved!" No ****, Sherlock!
 
Madmex10 said:
Very tough year. Very frustrating match and soap. Next year the same process awaits. Will wait until friday to officially give up on this match (maybe look into residency through residency finder with the knowledge of slim pickens) As US-IMG will try to improve my application as much as I can.
step 1: 256 first time step 2CK: 254 first time step 2CS: pass first time step 3: 244 first time
3 research protocols under my belt
continued clinical experience now at a pulmonary group, private hospital nursing home and LTAC facility.
4 LOR's from US doctors
Any suggestions are where to get started on improving?
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Unfortunately you can't fix the primary problem with your application. All you can do is possibly pick an easier specialty to match into and focus this year on research, etc in that field. A LOR from a known attending in that field could open the door for you.
 
docmama said:
Y'all I have a confession -- with all this talk of working at McDonald's, I'm actually waiting tables at a local restaurant. I got the job over the holidays to help pay for Christmas gifts for our kids, but the money was so good I kept working through the winter and into the spring. But I'm feeling pretty let down by this process and I don't even want to show my face there tomorrow. I haven't told very many people there I have an MD. I don't want them to think that I should be "extra smart," or wonder why the hell I'm waiting tables when I could be saving lives. Explaining this process just takes too long.
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I applaud you for having a job while going through all of this and supporting your family. Nothing to be ashamed of, in fact I envy your strength. As you can tell by this thread alone, a lot of qualified folks have been having a bad day too. Stay strong!

Some of us would probably kill for a job to go back to if SOAP didn't pan out 😉
 
docmama said:
Y'all I have a confession -- with all this talk of working at McDonald's, I'm actually waiting tables at a local restaurant. I got the job over the holidays to help pay for Christmas gifts for our kids, but the money was so good I kept working through the winter and into the spring. But I'm feeling pretty let down by this process and I don't even want to show my face there tomorrow. I haven't told very many people there I have an MD. I don't want them to think that I should be "extra smart," or wonder why the hell I'm waiting tables when I could be saving lives. Explaining this process just takes too long.
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Hey. A job is a job is a job. Don't be down on yourself for supporting yourself and your family. The process sucks, but it's not your fault. Sounds like your first residency screwed you over in some ways, and you did what you had to take care of your family. No shame there, only respect. Lots of people pulling for you. Good luck!
 
I've been trying to stay so positive today but I'm finally allowing myself a little sorrow. Hubs took the kids for a walk and I let myself have a good cry. I know it's not hopeless. I know it's not the end of the world. I know I'm not stupid or worthless or undesirable (although many of you here have far better credentials than I!). It's just so disappointing and I wonder how much more I'll have to go through before I'm finally able to either achieve my goals or realize that I need to let it go and move on with my life as a wife and mother.
 
docmama said:
It's just so disappointing and I wonder how much more I'll have to go through before I'm finally able to either achieve my goals or realize that I need to let it go and move on with my life
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This is the exact internal conflict I'm having as well. I posted in another thread, but I am in a similar situation to you.
 
Hello everyone. This may not be the thread to do it but i'm not sure what to do here. I am an AMG at a mid tier school with below average stats. 209 on step 1 and 209 on step 2. P's in all clerkships (no negative evals i'm just not good with exams). Was told I had very strong LORs. I initially applied EM and only got 3/70 interviews which i think is most likely d/t my scores since everyone has said how great my ER letters were. Midway through the interview cycle I applied to prelim IMs so as not to go unmatched, but then on reflecting decided i'd be happier continuing with categorical IM so i called around and changed my interviews to categorical ones. Managed to get 6 categorical IM interviews despite not applying til mid November. Thought I was safe to match. Now hear I am SOAPing and haven't gotten a single call or email from programs. I applied to all the categorical IM spots and several prelim IM. for my next 10 i applied to the remaining prelim IM, some transitional, and some family medicine. If tomorrow goes by and I still get nothing i'm not sure what to do. I have never failed or been in danger of failing anything in med school. I have no professionalism issues, never took a LOA, and have no other red flags that I'm aware of. I felt like my interviews went well. I was even told by some interviewers that I displayed more maturity and insight (their words) compared to my peers and that I would be a good fit.
My deans suggested delaying my graduation and applying again after doing some aways to get some new letters if I still couldn't find anything after SOAP or if nothing opened up. I am at such a loss. I am more depressed than I have ever been in my life. Any advice people would have is much appreciated. I'd still prefer to do categorical IM if possible.
 
Have any of you heard of Dr. Pamela Wible? She's my new hero. She's a FM doc in Oregon and a huge advocate for med student/resident/physician mental and emotional health/well being. She recently won a national award in DC and just this week spoke at the Missouri state Senate to support a bill that would provide easier access and less stigma for mental health care for med students. She cited some very interesting stats:

Medical students face enormous stress. Their workload and debt load are immense. They witness incredible human suffering with no emotional support or debriefing. Routinely sleep deprived, they’re groomed in a medical culture that rewards self-neglect and often condones bullying.

Medical students are afraid to seek help for fear of retaliation or discrimination. Medical students are afraid to seek counseling because medical boards like the one in Missouri ask applicants if they’ve ever been treated for mental health issues. Checking the “yes” box can lead to a subpoena of one’s “confidential” medical records.

Medical students enter medical school with their mental health on par with or better than their peers. Up to 30% develop depression and 10% become suicidal during each year of medical school. Both men I dated in medical school died by suicide. Depression and suicide are known occupational hazards in medicine.

More than 400 U.S. doctors die by suicide annually. Widespread underreporting and miscoding of death certificates suggest the number is closer to 800. That’s like losing all 391 medical students enrolled at the University of Missouri Columbia School of Medicine plus the 433 students at the University of Missouri Kansas City School of Medicine— every year.
 
Y'all, what we go through, what we see, what we experience, it is NOT normal!!!
 
jkdoctor said:
If you do not get a residency spot imo you should seriously considering working as an assistant physician in Missouri. They will be licensing the assistant physicians there later this year and it would give you an opportunity for valuable experience and some $$$$. It would also give you patient care experience that would quell the PDs concern of it being "too long" in next year's interview season.
See link:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...mary-care-shortage-with-assistant-physicians/
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I looked into applying my MD toward becoming a PA, but unless it's changed, PAs are VERY territorial and claim that an MD isn't valid or equivalent (I'd say it's superior, but you know. . .). Is that not the case in Missouri?
 
Sorry, just read the article. Disregard former reply!
 
docmama said:
Have any of you heard of Dr. Pamela Wible? She's my new hero. She's a FM doc in Oregon and a huge advocate for med student/resident/physician mental and emotional health/well being. She recently won a national award in DC and just this week spoke at the Missouri state Senate to support a bill that would provide easier access and less stigma for mental health care for med students. She cited some very interesting stats:

Medical students face enormous stress. Their workload and debt load are immense. They witness incredible human suffering with no emotional support or debriefing. Routinely sleep deprived, they’re groomed in a medical culture that rewards self-neglect and often condones bullying.

Medical students are afraid to seek help for fear of retaliation or discrimination. Medical students are afraid to seek counseling because medical boards like the one in Missouri ask applicants if they’ve ever been treated for mental health issues. Checking the “yes” box can lead to a subpoena of one’s “confidential” medical records.

Medical students enter medical school with their mental health on par with or better than their peers. Up to 30% develop depression and 10% become suicidal during each year of medical school. Both men I dated in medical school died by suicide. Depression and suicide are known occupational hazards in medicine.

More than 400 U.S. doctors die by suicide annually. Widespread underreporting and miscoding of death certificates suggest the number is closer to 800. That’s like losing all 391 medical students enrolled at the University of Missouri Columbia School of Medicine plus the 433 students at the University of Missouri Kansas City School of Medicine— every year.
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Programs will state the company line and say they do not discriminate against candidates who have suffered from common mental illnesses like depression, but it is very much stigmatized in the medical culture and probably plays a large role in the decision making process for residencies. I don't think they would treat a candidate who suffered from depression and recovered the same as someone who suffered from cancer and recovered. It's an ugly thought, but probably has good chance at being true.
 
docmama said:
Have any of you heard of Dr. Pamela Wible? She's my new hero. She's a FM doc in Oregon and a huge advocate for med student/resident/physician mental and emotional health/well being. She recently won a national award in DC and just this week spoke at the Missouri state Senate to support a bill that would provide easier access and less stigma for mental health care for med students. She cited some very interesting stats:

Medical students face enormous stress. Their workload and debt load are immense. They witness incredible human suffering with no emotional support or debriefing. Routinely sleep deprived, they’re groomed in a medical culture that rewards self-neglect and often condones bullying.

Medical students are afraid to seek help for fear of retaliation or discrimination. Medical students are afraid to seek counseling because medical boards like the one in Missouri ask applicants if they’ve ever been treated for mental health issues. Checking the “yes” box can lead to a subpoena of one’s “confidential” medical records.

Medical students enter medical school with their mental health on par with or better than their peers. Up to 30% develop depression and 10% become suicidal during each year of medical school. Both men I dated in medical school died by suicide. Depression and suicide are known occupational hazards in medicine.

More than 400 U.S. doctors die by suicide annually. Widespread underreporting and miscoding of death certificates suggest the number is closer to 800. That’s like losing all 391 medical students enrolled at the University of Missouri Columbia School of Medicine plus the 433 students at the University of Missouri Kansas City School of Medicine— every year.
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Please don't kill yourself people. And please don't let this profession define you. If you do...you might as well not match because you are going to be left empty and broken. We are all here for a purpose and suicide has a ripple effect that can't be quantified. Please get help. You'll will continue to be in my prayers.
 
dcby said:
Programs will state the company line and say they do not discriminate against candidates who have suffered from common mental illnesses like depression, but it is very much stigmatized in the medical culture and probably plays a large role in the decision making process for residencies. I don't think they would treat a candidate who suffered from depression and recovered the same as someone who suffered from cancer and recovered. It's an ugly thought, but probably has good chance at being true.
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Oh I KNOW it's true! I interned with a guy who made it almost through his third year of FM residency before his drug/alcohol addiction got so bad that the state asked him to step down and go to rehab. They paid for everything, assisted him in landing a new FM residency, and his hometown promised him a job upon his graduation. I on the other hand, knew when the pressure had become too much, sought mental health help, and decided to step back to take care of myself and my family. No major breakdowns, no "craziness," just severe depression. And we all know where I'm at. . .how TWISTED is this profession?!?
 
docmama said:
Oh I KNOW it's true! I interned with a guy who made it almost through his third year of FM residency before his drug/alcohol addiction got so bad that the state asked him to step down and go to rehab. They paid for everything, assisted him in landing a new FM residency, and his hometown promised him a job upon his graduation. I on the other hand, knew when the pressure had become too much, sought mental health help, and decided to step back to take care of myself and my family. No major breakdowns, no "craziness," just severe depression. And we all know where I'm at. . .how TWISTED is this profession?!?
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Now more than ever it certainly seems like an unforgiving beast.
 
I've been lurking w/ my "normal" account but at this point I too want to make a SOAP thread account. We are all in the same boat. And the whirlwind of emotions has to be vented/discussed. To the point I know (and luv) all my friends who did match but WTF can we really talk about when I'm basically jealously happy w/ them ya know?

Anyways, we are just in a banner year for Match. I can't make sense of anything. So I'm doing research (so I don't cry or go insane or whatever emotion I feel right now).

Some interesting facts I gathered that I want to share!

In 2014 FM had 132 unfilled programs after match. Which is more than the 123 in 2013. Those of us trying to match FM know it like 1/6 of that now.
In 2014 Cat-IM had 59. <20 now!!
Prelim-IM had 80. <25 now!
Prelim-Surg had 459. (Cuz who wants to sign up for that nonsense!?) <100 this year!

These numbers will be even lower after the next round. And dare to venture to say probably 0 after the end of SOAP.

It was seriously just a horrible Match. I mean, there are some people I've been seeing w/ wonderful stats who aren't even getting call backs during SOAP.

We gotta keep hope alive, but I would also really appreciate to know what our next plan should Friday roll around and we are sulking/sobbing at home while our classmates are at the Match parties.
 
SOAP_city USA said:
I've been lurking w/ my "normal" account but at this point I too want to make a SOAP thread account. We are all in the same boat. And the whirlwind of emotions has to be vented/discussed. To the point I know (and luv) all my friends who did match but WTF can we really talk about when I'm basically jealously happy w/ them ya know?

Anyways, we are just in a banner year for Match. I can't make sense of anything. So I'm doing research (so I don't cry or go insane or whatever emotion I feel right now).

Some interesting facts I gathered that I want to share!

In 2014 FM had 132 unfilled programs after match. Which is more than the 123 in 2013. Those of us trying to match FM know it like 1/6 of that now.
In 2014 Cat-IM had 59. <20 now!!
Prelim-IM had 80. <25 now!
Prelim-Surg had 459. (Cuz who wants to sign up for that nonsense!?) <100 this year!

These numbers will be even lower after the next round. And dare to venture to say probably 0 after the end of SOAP.

It was seriously just a horrible Match. I mean, there are some people I've been seeing w/ wonderful stats who aren't even getting call backs during SOAP.

We gotta keep hope alive, but I would also really appreciate to know what our next plan should Friday roll around and we are sulking/sobbing at home while our classmates are at the Match parties.
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let's all start a business. hug therapy for medical students. and residents, because let's face it...the fun doesn't stop after graduation.
 
SOAP_city USA said:
I've been lurking w/ my "normal" account but at this point I too want to make a SOAP thread account. We are all in the same boat. And the whirlwind of emotions has to be vented/discussed. To the point I know (and luv) all my friends who did match but WTF can we really talk about when I'm basically jealously happy w/ them ya know?

Anyways, we are just in a banner year for Match. I can't make sense of anything. So I'm doing research (so I don't cry or go insane or whatever emotion I feel right now).

Some interesting facts I gathered that I want to share!

In 2014 FM had 132 unfilled programs after match. Which is more than the 123 in 2013. Those of us trying to match FM know it like 1/6 of that now.
In 2014 Cat-IM had 59. <20 now!!
Prelim-IM had 80. <25 now!
Prelim-Surg had 459. (Cuz who wants to sign up for that nonsense!?) <100 this year!

These numbers will be even lower after the next round. And dare to venture to say probably 0 after the end of SOAP.

It was seriously just a horrible Match. I mean, there are some people I've been seeing w/ wonderful stats who aren't even getting call backs during SOAP.

We gotta keep hope alive, but I would also really appreciate to know what our next plan should Friday roll around and we are sulking/sobbing at home while our classmates are at the Match parties.
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I can't see the list anymore since I accepted a position, but when the soap started I don't think those numbers were all that different from 2014. I vaguely remember about 130 FM spots and 400+ prelim surgery. maybe the numbers you are seeing now are after the 1st 2 rounds.??

Good luck everyone, I hope tomorrow goes well 🙂
 
seap3 said:
I can't see the list anymore since I accepted a position, but when the soap started I don't think those numbers were all that different from 2014. I vaguely remember about 130 FM spots and 400+ prelim surgery. maybe the numbers you are seeing now are after the 1st 2 rounds.??

Good luck everyone, I hope tomorrow goes well 🙂
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Yea those are numbers after today's round, not the initial numbers. But it was still a weird year, i think i remember peds being especially competitive and radiology less so, other than that I think everything looked pretty close.
 
It is what I saw when I logged into r3.

Congrats too seap3! I was lurking and know your story. I've been in the thread since page 1 when I was shocked to know I didn't nail a single interview I thought I did so well on (i.e. - didn't Match). Just now posting.
 
seap3 said:
I can't see the list anymore since I accepted a position, but when the soap started I don't think those numbers were all that different from 2014. I vaguely remember about 130 FM spots and 400+ prelim surgery. maybe the numbers you are seeing now are after the 1st 2 rounds.??

Good luck everyone, I hope tomorrow goes well 🙂
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Compared to the past two years, the numbers are absolutely dismal. I knew it was getting more and more competitive, but I had no idea how much so. There is still hope after SOAP -- several programs don't participate in SOAP, and a few others don't participate in the NRMP Match process at all. Plus, there are people who will fall out of their contracts before July. We just have to keep our eyes peeled!
 
I believe this is my first post here. I am also SOAPing right now with no offers. This is my 2nd year of applying for FM and IM. I am a US/IMG with low Step 1 and Step 2 scores. After an unsuccessful go with the match and SOAP last year, I prepared and took Step 3 and got even better score. I also work at an ED as a scribe - which helped me tremendously to prepare for Step 3 and has improved my clinical acumen to a great deal. I am exposed to some of the most critical cases first hand and I am in the room charting in real time and constantly process the information and 'think like a physician', and almost all of the times the medical decisions that I make in my head are spot on after I see the physicians I work with, approach their decisions. On several occasions, I have made suggestions that ultimately benefited patients. I included all of these experiences on my ERAS and elaborated them on PS.
But I am getting filtered out by low Step scores and most of the programs do not even look at what I am capable of bringing to the table. I know I am to blame for low scores, but I would like to hope that programs at least review what other qualities does an applicant have that would show them that he/she is determined and has overcome the low scores. My family is distraught after 2 unsuccessful outcomes and left wondering about the past 10 years of hard work, sweat and money spent just to see 'doors being slammed at our faces'. Yea sure I will go back to work, and live another day, and will probably seek other 'extra curricular' activities to improve my resume. But those things cost time and money and we are running out of all of them.
 
saudades said:
Does anyone know if there is a master list somewhere of all programs that DON'T participate in SOAP?
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The ones that didn't this year had red asterisks next to them on the lists provided by the NRMP. As far as programs that don't participate in the Match at all,
 

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I believe this is my first post here. I am also SOAPing right now with no offers. This is my 2nd year of applying for FM and IM. I am a US/IMG with low Step 1 and Step 2 scores. After an unsuccessful go with the match and SOAP last year, I prepared and took Step 3 and got even better score. I also work at an ED as a scribe - which helped me tremendously to prepare for Step 3 and has improved my clinical acumen to a great deal. I am exposed to some of the most critical cases first hand and I am in the room charting in real time and constantly process the information and 'think like a physician', and almost all of the times the medical decisions that I make in my head are spot on after I see the physicians I work with, approach their decisions. On several occasions, I have made suggestions that ultimately benefited patients. I included all of these experiences on my ERAS and elaborated them on PS.
But I am getting filtered out by low Step scores and most of the programs do not even look at what I am capable of bringing to the table. I know I am to blame for low scores, but I would like to hope that programs at least review what other qualities does an applicant have that would show them that he/she is determined and has overcome the low scores. My family is distraught after 2 unsuccessful outcomes and left wondering about the past 10 years of hard work, sweat and money spent just to see 'doors being slammed at our faces'. Yea sure I will go back to work, and live another day, and will probably seek other 'extra curricular' activities to improve my resume. But those things cost time and money and we are running out of all of them.
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It's especially hard when you're a little older as I am. I'm 36 now and not getting younger. I've also been through two unsuccessful matches and have low scores. I'm also receiving zero help from the school I graduated from. I get the impression that they couldn't care less what happens to me now that they got my tuition money.
 
The stat filters are going to be the end all of a lot of people's attempts to get a residency. And it's an unfortunate necessity too. But I would luv to know if there is a way around them, or is it going to be a "networking" deal? Having someone (like your LOR writers) call the PC/PD to make sure you aren't filtered?
 
docmama said:
The ones that didn't this year had red asterisks next to them on the lists provided by the NRMP. As far as programs that don't participate in the Match at all,
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I don't think this list is correct. Scottsdale health and others DID participate in NRMP this year. Some of the places I see on my list of places where I applied.
 
I was going through the lists of unfilled spots on the NRMP site one by one and saw that there are some unfilled spots with the red asterisks. Does this mean we can try to scramble into them if we don't get a SOAP match or that they are just going to remained unfilled?
 
lakersno834 said:
I believe this is my first post here. I am also SOAPing right now with no offers. This is my 2nd year of applying for FM and IM. I am a US/IMG with low Step 1 and Step 2 scores. After an unsuccessful go with the match and SOAP last year, I prepared and took Step 3 and got even better score. I also work at an ED as a scribe - which helped me tremendously to prepare for Step 3 and has improved my clinical acumen to a great deal. I am exposed to some of the most critical cases first hand and I am in the room charting in real time and constantly process the information and 'think like a physician', and almost all of the times the medical decisions that I make in my head are spot on after I see the physicians I work with, approach their decisions. On several occasions, I have made suggestions that ultimately benefited patients. I included all of these experiences on my ERAS and elaborated them on PS.
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I think it's a bad move to sell your ED scribing experience as preparing you for residency and for Step 3. That's something an undergraduate would say to help them get into medical school, it looks weak at this level. That would be like letting your volunteering and shadowing experiences as a pre-med dictate what field you enter for residency.

Best of luck on the remainder of this SOAP cycle and next year. It's important to maintain some clinical relevance with these jobs, but you should also strengthen your application by networking and getting some research in to prove your academic prowess. No one cares about Step 3.
 
Chicago2012 said:
It's especially hard when you're a little older as I am. I'm 36 now and not getting younger. I've also been through two unsuccessful matches and have low scores. I'm also receiving zero help from the school I graduated from. I get the impression that they couldn't care less what happens to me now that they got my tuition money.
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Yup, same boat!
 
lakersno834 said:
I don't think this list is correct. Scottsdale health and others DID participate in NRMP this year. Some of the places I see on my list of places where I applied.
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Hmmm, maybe this is from last year then?
 
OK, answered my own question from the NRMP site. Programs not participating in SOAP may still be contacted after SOAP concludes, so I guess tomorrow night.
 
Docmama are you saying programs look into your medical and mental history too before deciding for residency appointments? 😵
 
I'm a US-IMG, graduated in mid-2012, got 227-step1, 227-step 2, pass-CS, all first attempts and within 8 months of each other. I've been doing cancer research at UCLA, had an LoR from that, 2 other LoRs from US physicians... I only had 1 interview during the regular match, and didn't get a single call so far in the SOAP. I know I'm not the most amazing candidate, but i meet or exceed most of these programs minimum requirements. Even just a few interviews or calls and I could at least feel like I had something. I really don't get what else I can do... I'm glad I was following this forum this whole time though, it helped to know I wasn't alone feeling this way. I just feel burnt out man...
 
jkdoctor said:
Unfortunately tests are paramount due to the new ACGME accreditation requirements that require residencies to meet numerical targets for their board exam pass rates .
Programs want residents who are good at taking tests and they look at USMLE board scores as an example of how good someone is at taking tests.
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More than that, they probably want residents who perform well on tests without an exorbitant amount of study time during residency.
 
Do we send application or somethin to PDs for post SOAP unfilled positions or to those programs not participating in SOAP?
 
Thought I'd share my story. US Citizen. Graduated from South Asian school in early 2014. Had a late 238 Step 1 and a 221 Step 2. No research whatsoever. First time applying for residency. Applied to IM mostly, I think about 125 programs. Got 6 interviews. Thought I had a couple in the bank which I ranked at the top. No luck. Had to go thru SOAP. Got no offers in first round despite multiple phone interviews. Lucked out and got an offer in the second round which I readily and immediately accepted.

Its hard to determine what they're looking for in SOAP. I understand the magnitude of applications compared to the open amount of seats is not a fun ratio to think about. Maybe its luck and maybe its pure stats. But I think one shouldn't lose hope and keep at it. I've known multiple people who have matched after 3/4 years of trying. I don't wish to say that you should keep your life on hold and not do other things but its always worth trying to apply for this career.

For the few of you who do get an offer tomorrow, congrats. For the rest of you, keep your hopes up and have a productive year.
 
Jsy2255 said:
I'm a US-IMG, graduated in mid-2012, got 227-step1, 227-step 2, pass-CS, all first attempts and within 8 months of each other. I've been doing cancer research at UCLA, had an LoR from that, 2 other LoRs from US physicians... I only had 1 interview during the regular match, and didn't get a single call so far in the SOAP. I know I'm not the most amazing candidate, but i meet or exceed most of these programs minimum requirements. Even just a few interviews or calls and I could at least feel like I had something. I really don't get what else I can do... I'm glad I was following this forum this whole time though, it helped to know I wasn't alone feeling this way. I just feel burnt out man...
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What are you applying for and which international school did you go to? Did you apply broadly and especially to places that take IMGs? That seems strange to only have received one interview.
 
Well I got another call a little less than 2 hours ago and it wasn't even from one of the 10 I applied to for round 2. It's a great program and I thought the conversation went really well, but I've been fooled before. At least there's a glimmer of hope for tomorrow's round.
 
dcby said:
Well I got another call a little less than 2 hours ago and it wasn't even from one of the 10 I applied to for round 2. It's a great program and I thought the conversation went really well, but I've been fooled before. At least there's a glimmer of hope for tomorrow's round.
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How many calls have you had so far? During the SOAP process?
 
What could be the reasoning for those of you that got interviews but weren't matched you think? Is it IMG status? Is it low STEP scores? bad luck? Or not applying to as many programs as you could? I wish you all the best. 🙁
 
dcby said:
Well I got another call a little less than 2 hours ago and it wasn't even from one of the 10 I applied to for round 2. It's a great program and I thought the conversation went really well, but I've been fooled before. At least there's a glimmer of hope for tomorrow's round.
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Good luck to you!
 
Good luck to you all! I have been keeping my eye on this thread...love to see the success stories as they appear. And to keep sending good vibes to those who are still waiting...it will come!
 
coat0023 said:
What are you applying for and which international school did you go to? Did you apply broadly and especially to places that take IMGs? That seems strange to only have received one interview.
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Bro it's looking bad for IMGs. I am glad you got something while you could because the trend is scary. No question that there is a significant anti-IMG bias considering that many people in this room have very competitive scores.
 
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SOAP advice, thank you!
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