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I just don't know how to get past the huge waste of time this has been. Taking three days off of work, taking my dog to dog care, doing absolutely nothing just in case I happen to get a phone call. How is this standard protocol? Wish I had some of your guys positive vibes. Don't know how you do it.
 
I just don't know how to get past the huge waste of time this has been. Taking three days off of work, taking my dog to dog care, doing absolutely nothing just in case I happen to get a phone call. How is this standard protocol? Wish I had some of your guys positive vibes. Don't know how you do it.

I was crushed earlier this morning. I think that it is a normal human reaction given everything you've sacrificed and been through medical school. I hope it works out for you and you hear back.
 
I just don't know how to get past the huge waste of time this has been. Taking three days off of work, taking my dog to dog care, doing absolutely nothing just in case I happen to get a phone call. How is this standard protocol? Wish I had some of your guys positive vibes. Don't know how you do it.
Much much better than SCRAMBLE, I believe.
 
it is these experiences who will make us who we are.. and will make it all sweeter when we get it done just endure as of now.... rocky - its not how hard you can hit its how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.. you will look back at these situations and be thankful when your older.. beeing an IMG i know kids that have spent well over 200 grand and have never matched.. had to work minimum wage jobs for years in order to keep up there loans. After time they were able to make connections and make it happen 5-7 years later.. work full time at minimum wage, than do research for free on the side for a doc so they can get their name on some papers.if your an american grad and this is your first SOAP relax you can get a spot for sure if you are willing to go anywhere. LOOk at ecfmg match data 2014. The avg img who matched is more than 5 years after graduation. AKA if this is your first time relax. Plus the resources american grads have are endlesss. there's ppl in a lot worse places believe me. Everyone here has only one more milestone to cross before the rest of their lives are set. We should all thank god for our opportunities and the situation we are in. The fact that you are waiting for a phone call that could possibly give you a secure career for the rest of your life and even if it doesnt work out there are way more chances we will have. There's ppl who would kill to have that. Good luck all but dont get down over soap. Just remember to be humble than you will understand you are not entitled to getting a residency spot and you will be thankful for where your at.
 
I was crushed earlier this morning. I think that it is a normal human reaction given everything you've sacrificed and been through medical school. I hope it works out for you and you hear back.
Thank you, you too. Glad to have support of people in similar situations.
 
Edit: How do I change my status? PGY-1 now

Congratulations on Matching, @Pattycake25! To change your Status:

1) Click on your Username which is located on top of your screen next to your "Inbox" and "Alerts,"
2) Scroll down to Personal Details and click on it,
3) Scroll down to Status and change it (inside the window) to Resident (Any Field), and,
4) Don't forget to SAVE.

P.S. In Custom Title window, you may write (or not) something important to you and it will pop up right under your Username.

Congratulations again on Matching and Good Luck to Everyone who is SOAPing!
 
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Good evening
Can anyone help me in this issue
I am an IMG, I have applied for the match but I did not match
I want to apply for SOAP, but my Eras shows me that USMLE transcript is not uploaded to SOAP programs
How I can fix this
Thank you
 
it is these experiences who will make us who we are.. and will make it all sweeter when we get it done just endure as of now.... rocky - its not how hard you can hit its how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.. you will look back at these situations and be thankful when your older.. beeing an IMG i know kids that have spent well over 200 grand and have never matched.. had to work minimum wage jobs for years in order to keep up there loans. After time they were able to make connections and make it happen 5-7 years later.. work full time at minimum wage, than do research for free on the side for a doc so they can get their name on some papers.if your an american grad and this is your first SOAP relax you can get a spot for sure if you are willing to go anywhere. LOOk at ecfmg match data 2014. The avg img who matched is more than 5 years after graduation. AKA if this is your first time relax. Plus the resources american grads have are endlesss. there's ppl in a lot worse places believe me. Everyone here has only one more milestone to cross before the rest of their lives are set. We should all thank god for our opportunities and the situation we are in. The fact that you are waiting for a phone call that could possibly give you a secure career for the rest of your life and even if it doesnt work out there are way more chances we will have. There's ppl who would kill to have that. Good luck all but dont get down over soap. Just remember to be humble than you will understand you are not entitled to getting a residency spot and you will be thankful for where your at.

Good post. I am positive because like you said there is still a chance for life changing news. And it will come eventually if not this year. Outside of medicine, I met so many people who would kill to be in the exact position i'm in. And yes!, one of my mentors has reminded me that being a part of patients' lives (or part of parts of patients' lives lol) is a privilege not a right just because you graduated medical school.

With that being said, I've been around the block a little and can imagine any 4th year senior in any place on earth about to obtain either degree is stressing big time cause you don't understand that you are intelligent and likely can make money in maybe other fields if need be.

You will laugh at this one day. And if you keep up your efforts you might even have the privilege of becoming a practicing physician.
 
Good evening
Can anyone help me in this issue
I am an IMG, I have applied for the match but I did not match
I want to apply for SOAP, but my Eras shows me that USMLE transcript is not uploaded to SOAP programs
How I can fix this
Thank you

Moving to ERAS and NRMP forum and merging with the SOAP 2017 superthread.

I'm pretty sure you'd just apply the USMLE transcript to the programs, but someone who has gone/is going through SOAP can probably tell you more specifically what to do.
 
Good evening
Can anyone help me in this issue
I am an IMG, I have applied for the match but I did not match
I want to apply for SOAP, but my Eras shows me that USMLE transcript is not uploaded to SOAP programs
How I can fix this
Thank you

Sorry but you really needed to get this taken care of at least 30 hours ago. By this time the vast majority of programs have downloaded apps and many have completed their SOAP interviews. You are very late to be asking this imo. Good luck!
 
I just don't know how to get past the huge waste of time this has been. Taking three days off of work, taking my dog to dog care, doing absolutely nothing just in case I happen to get a phone call. How is this standard protocol? Wish I had some of your guys positive vibes. Don't know how you do it.

To be fair, standard protocol is to match in the first place. I know there are things I could have done to get a spot but I made decisions for my family over my career. I don't regret it but it did affect me.

There are a handful of excuses I can take (with varying levels of validity) but to secure a spot or not was largely my responsibility.

I am not saying you are not taking responsibility or that I understand your circumstances. I am just using your comment as a platform to say what hasn't been said (at least to my knowledge).
 
To be fair, standard protocol is to match in the first place. I know there are things I could have done to get a spot but I made decisions for my family over my career. I don't regret it but it did affect me.

There are a handful of excuses I can take (with varying levels of validity) but to secure a spot or not was largely my responsibility.

I am not saying you are not taking responsibility or that I understand your circumstances. I am just using your comment as a platform to say what hasn't been said (at least to my knowledge).

If standard protocol is to match in the first place, then why is it that med school grads have to go through this process year after year? It's like a matter of fact at this point.

Leaving this here btw for those that are interested: http://pr.mo.gov/assistantphysicians.asp
 
Good evening
Can anyone help me in this issue
I am an IMG, I have applied for the match but I did not match
I want to apply for SOAP, but my Eras shows me that USMLE transcript is not uploaded to SOAP programs
How I can fix this
Thank you
Go to the Programs applied for and click on each program. On the pop-up check the box for USMLE transcript.
If you still unable to do it then contact ERAS by phone/email/chat/facebook/twitter/snapchat/ whatever option are available and they should be able to guide you.
 
Seems like most of the folks in here are IMG then? Could this be a sign of things to come with the merger now well underway?
 
So I got a call from a program, but didn't get an email, only a phone number (which appears to be a generic departmental phone number, so they're probably closed by now...), and I'm blanking on the name of the person I talked to.... what do? I wanted to send folks follow up emails to thank them/beg them to take me one last time, plus I do legitimately have a couple of questions for this program that I couldn't think to ask at the moment. I did say that I would absolutely 110% go to their program if they gave me an offer (which is cringe-y, I know, but it was what popped out, and I genuinely, sincerely meant it...)...
 
So I got a call from a program, but didn't get an email, only a phone number (which appears to be a generic departmental phone number, so they're probably closed by now...), and I'm blanking on the name of the person I talked to.... what do? I wanted to send folks follow up emails to thank them/beg them to take me one last time, plus I do legitimately have a couple of questions for this program that I couldn't think to ask at the moment. I did say that I would absolutely 110% go to their program if they gave me an offer (which is cringe-y, I know, but it was what popped out, and I genuinely, sincerely meant it...)...


check their website, faculty section, see if you recall the name, if not its always safe to email the PD .. good luck
 
So I got a call from a program, but didn't get an email, only a phone number (which appears to be a generic departmental phone number, so they're probably closed by now...), and I'm blanking on the name of the person I talked to.... what do? I wanted to send folks follow up emails to thank them/beg them to take me one last time, plus I do legitimately have a couple of questions for this program that I couldn't think to ask at the moment. I did say that I would absolutely 110% go to their program if they gave me an offer (which is cringe-y, I know, but it was what popped out, and I genuinely, sincerely meant it...)...

I wouldn't send an email at this time. You sound like you were very clear in your intent and may have a shot at noon. If you want to send an email send at 7-8am program time zone.
 
Since I didn't get any calls I applied to Dermatology as a backup.


This is hilarious. I was making that joke in my head last night because I only soaped path so have apps left...

Then I got to the point where I was actually thinking about changing my personal statement to derm but make it kinda ridiculous?

Also, I'll take the ortho and I guess all the ENT positions. Don't forget CT.

I realized my inclination when stressed is to think of funny stuff like this.

But SOAP is no joke and can leave a bad taste in your mouth.

In other related there is a small chance of phone calls in the morning so don't think 11pm is it for rd 1.
 
I did get a call late tonight at 7pm CST so there is still hope for west coast but probably very little at this point.
 
So just to clarify, program directors will submit their offer to a potential resident some time tomorrow/today and it will be sent as an official offer at 11:55 am?
 
So just to clarify, program directors will submit their offer to a potential resident some time tomorrow/today and it will be sent as an official offer at 11:55 am?
Look on page 1 of this thread for a colorful chart with the timeline for SOAP. Good luck!
 
If anyone is bored, I read this article recently about SOAP. It has some of the best info and advice I've read anywhere online. She is likely a member of SDN.

mods can remove it but it is great advice imo

https://drnjbmd.wordpress.com/2017/...-offer-and-acceptance-program-soap-process-2/

She follows 30-10-5 of last year but all other advice seems valid.

I think there are ED applicants in here who havent gotten an interview yet in some prelim programs so I dont really think her advice is that accurate. =/
 
ahh. i see. my bad. I guess I skimmed over that part cause I was not EM.
 
No No No. Those are last years rules. I tried to say not to listen to that part.

All the other advice is great. Darn. Maybe it was only helpful to me. I'm sorry.
 
No No No. Those are last years rules. I tried to say not to listen to that part.

All the other advice is great. Darn. Maybe it was only helpful to me. I'm sorry.

No, I am sorry.. I failed in matching and failed in reading a simple post too.
 
Help ! I applied to 45 places already. Will the applications roll over to the next rounds ??
 
No, I am sorry.. I failed in matching and failed in reading a simple post too.

No worries. We are all stressed now and if you are like me you likely didn't sleep much last night and won't much tonight.

I deleted the article because I saw it was causing panic and in the post below yours/

Also there are 3 rounds this time NOT 5

Schedule:

Noon: offers go out and expire in 2 hours. a program with 1 position can give out exactly one offer

3pm: round 2. In a similar example a program with 3 open slots can give out exactly 3 offers. Applicants can accept exactly one.

9am thurs: Round 3 which is the most important round since it went from 5-3 and there will be calls tomorrow night.
 
Didn't match EM. Applied to 30+ surgery prelim, 5 transitional, and one derm because YOLO M-Fers. This whole system is so absurd, why not go with it.

Zero calls.
 
If standard protocol is to match in the first place, then why is it that med school grads have to go through this process year after year? It's like a matter of fact at this point.

Leaving this here btw for those that are interested: http://pr.mo.gov/assistantphysicians.asp

because there will always be someone that overestimates their competitiveness in the field, ranks too few places, only ranks the uber prestigious programs, suicide matches, or limits themselves geographically...or were such terrible interviewees that they turn off the program.
 
Good luck everyone. SOAPing is not fun, from either end.

does anyone know approximately how many applicants a program will interview for a single spot during soap?

This has been asked several times. There's no answer. I'd interview everyone who "looked promising" on paper, and then pick the person/people I thought would fit best in my program. But there's no way to know how many other people a program interviewed, or what your chances are.

Sorry if this question was asked already, but for those who are going through the SOAP again, can we receive offers without interviews?

This has also been asked several times. Theoretically, yes. Practically, it seems unlikely -- would you hire someone without even talking to them? That said, if I remember from last year's SOAP thread, this happened for several prelim GS spots.

After SOAP, if there are still spots unfilled... can we then call them / initiate contact to the programs that SOAP already?

Yes. At the end of all of SOAP, NRMP will post the unfilled positions list, along with contact information. Unfortunately, experiences from last year match those posted above. Many of the spots on the unfilled list didn't fill in SOAP because the programs didn't try to fill them. And once the unfilled list is posted, literally 1000's of people call/fax/email looking for the spot. Even if the program decides to fill it, they usually just wait for the deluge to stop.

So this still holds true? "Applications do not roll over so that if you don’t get a match by the third day the start of the second cycle, you are likely not going to find much out there." It doesn't roll over?? Then what's the point of allowing max 45 all at once, and where can we find this info on NRMP website??

All applications are active for all rounds of SOAP. If you didn't use all of your apps already, you can add more tomorrow. Realistically, you're only going to be able to do so for Round 3. Offers for Round 1 go out at 12 and finalize at 2. Round 2 starts at 3. That's a tight timeline, although I guess it's possible.

So just to clarify, program directors will submit their offer to a potential resident some time tomorrow/today and it will be sent as an official offer at 11:55 am?

Let's talk about what will happen tomorrow. Programs need to lock in their choices by 11:55. As mentioned already, if a program has 2 open spots, then they send out 2 offers.

At 12:00, applicants should be able to see their offers. It can be a slow process -- last year the screens all said "Generating Offers" and it took until 12:10 or so for everyone to be notified. All applicants furiously refreshing the screen probably doesn't help -- like a big DDOS attack. So do not get frustrated if you don't get your answer exactly at 12. You'll have until 2PM to decide, and you can't "lose" a spot by waiting (unless you wait until after 2PM, of course). You can get any combination of offers (if completely unmatched) - Categorical, Advanced, Prelim. You can only accept what you're missing -- so a completely unmatched applicant could accept a Cat spot, or a Prelim and Advanced spot. If you get a Cat and Advanced offer only, then you have to decide to take the Cat and be done, or the Adv and then keep trying for a prelim -- a challenging decision if the Adv spot is the field you really want.

Some applicants will get more than one competing offer. They can only take one, and all the declined offers roll to the next round.

To see what that looks like in numbers, look here: http://www.ahme.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/T13_NRMP-Update_Signer_Thu_05-19-16_GRAND-SALON-F.pdf You want slide 21 "2016 SOAP Positions offered and accepted by round"

You can see why they dropped rounds 4 & 5, as they were mostly useless. About 2/3 of all open spots fill in each round.

Good luck everyone. Don't get frustrated if SOAP offers aren't available exactly at 12:00 -- theoretically that should be the case, but last year it took an extra 5-10 minutes if I remember correctly.
 
check their website, faculty section, see if you recall the name, if not its always safe to email the PD .. good luck

Already did, nothing really rang a bell >< they knew all of my letter writers (one of them really really well), though, and I've been in contact with them, so maybeee my interviewer will (have) call(ed) them........?

I wouldn't send an email at this time. You sound like you were very clear in your intent and may have a shot at noon. If you want to send an email send at 7-8am program time zone.

I think I have to default to this option >< I probably won't be awake at that time (although who knows, I woke up at 3am my time today to prepare for a day full of phone calls, and currently regret my decision because it was not full of phone calls)
 
Already did, nothing really rang a bell >< they knew all of my letter writers (one of them really really well), though, and I've been in contact with them, so maybeee my interviewer will (have) call(ed) them........?



I think I have to default to this option >< I probably won't be awake at that time (although who knows, I woke up at 3am my time today to prepare for a day full of phone calls, and currently regret my decision because it was not full of phone calls)


I see. Either way my point was that late night emails could come off odd and just set an alarm for 7am their time zone and even have the draft ready so you can just click send if you just wake up for a minute. I didn't sleep much last night but woke up bright and early and hit like 10 9 min snoozes.
 
Good luck to everyone tomorrow and I hope everyone gets an offer tomorrow thereby ending this SOAP journey.

Stay strong!
 
How can you see these and what is available? I can't help but feel like I need to in some way be realistic and try to take whatever offer I am presented with through the SOAP as opposed to waiting for a spot that I am not sure will be vacant and available through the scramble. Advice on this would be appreciated.

You can log into the NMS match and see available positions in the post match. Alternatively, you could look at the 2017 AOA programs match data on, I think, the AOA site. That will show you the programs, how many spots offered, how many filled in the match, etc.

There's not really a ton other than FM, IM, and TRIs. Handfuls of a few other fields (5 out less each).

I hear there are typically lots of TRIs available but I'm not sure if that's true this year. If offered a spot via SOAP, I would certainly take it. Unfortunately I have not received any phone interviews.

There's usually a lot of TRIs left over, and it seems there are plenty this year, but who knows by Thurs.

Hopefully you won't have to worry about this, but if you don't get anything by Thurs, contact as many programs as you can. I would also reach out to your school, and absolutely contact (and if possible have someone from your school contact on your behalf) any unfilled program in your school's OPTI.

As the match gets tighter and tighter every year I predict more and more pressure to go this route:

On Saturday, the AOA House of Delegates passed a resolution calling for the profession to advocate for federal legislation to allow U.S. medical school graduates to lay first claims on U.S. residency positions.

Members of the New York State Osteopathic Medical Society (NYSOMS), which submitted the resolution, believe that the nation’s residency positions should first be offered to graduates of U.S. medical schools before international medical graduates (IMGs) can secure them.

“There’s a collision between the numbers of graduates of U.S. medical schools and the limited number of residency positions currently in the U.S.,” says Robert B. Goldberg, DO, the dean of the Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine in New York. “Soon, those positions will be saturated before we count one internationally trained physician vying for one of the slots.”

Steven I. Sherman, DO, the president of NYSOMS, says he wrote the resolution because the numbers of medical students are increasing while U.S. residency positions have remained relatively stagnant.
http://thedo.osteopathic.org/2014/0...ng-residency-slots-us-med-school-grads-first/

Dude, this is almost 3 years old and went nowhere. What's the point of posting this in this thread, especially since this thread contains mostly IMGs in a rough spot? Seems pointless and in poor taste.

Me too. Nothing. I should have added FM to the IM, prelim IM/Surg, and anesthesia. I feel like I shot myself in the foot so badly.

I assume with no interviews now, we wont match through SOAP. So we do the phone call interviews Thursday?

Contact and have your program contact open AOA spots if you're in that situation.

can anyone explain regarding paying back the loan if all of mine is from fed govt and not getting a spot through soap this year? if that happens, does that mean I will need to pay back the loan without earning anything, which will make my life so miserable? Thanks!

Make sure you submit a tax return for this year. Assuming your income was zero in 2016, you can sign up for income based payments and save for upcoming payments. You can also defer payments for a period. I don't know the details though, so I would talk to your financial aid office.

Well I have had 0 calls or emails today. I feel pretty screwed. Anybody have good experiences matching after SOAP into a DO preliminary?

I feel broken down and have no idea what the next step could be. Doesn't help my post-graduate department isn't in today either...

TRIs exist. A lot of DOs don't make it in the SOAP (something like 75% of them), so many end up scrambling into either an AOA categorical or TRI position. I would look into them now, and make a list of programs you want to contact right away on Thurs of the SOAP doesn't work out.

After SOAP, if there are still spots unfilled... can we then call them / initiate contact to the programs that SOAP already?

Yes, but on the MD side it sounds like this was horrible last year.

I never thought I would end up in AOA spot but you're right, at least I can apply to an additional few dozen programs that are DO spots.

A lot of DOs don't match in the NRMP match. ~600 out of ~3000 last year. It's not a small number, so a lot of people need to scramble into AOA spots. In the future, people are really going to have to adjust how they apply so that they have more backups built in, because in a few years it'll be only the match and SOAP.

Good luck, I hope it works out either through the SOAP or scramble. At this point scrambling into AOA FM or IM is a good deal, because you will finish in 3 years and be in a good spot even if your program doesn't make it through the transition.

Sorry but you really needed to get this taken care of at least 30 hours ago. By this time the vast majority of programs have downloaded apps and many have completed their SOAP interviews. You are very late to be asking this imo. Good luck!

Rubbing salt on a wound without giving any beneficial advice regarding their question. Yeah this is absolutely in poor taste.

If standard protocol is to match in the first place, then why is it that med school grads have to go through this process year after year? It's like a matter of fact at this point.

Leaving this here btw for those that are interested: http://pr.mo.gov/assistantphysicians.asp

There are more applicants than spots. On top of that, people have redflags or they really just apply/rank unrealistically. Some people just had bad luck. It's guaranteed that some people are going to be unmatched by the end of it.

US DO, 220s/240s, passed PE first try, 7 interviews, 7 ranks. I knew it wasn't the magic 12 but I felt pretty solid with my top picks. Not too excited about a surgical prelim cause those guys eat their young, but I'll do what I have to.

Just out of curiosity, how many programs did you apply to, and did you have your SLOEs in?

I know a few DOs in your position that scrambled into TRIs, reapplied the next year and matched ACGME EM. Unfortunately, EM seems to be getting tougher lately.
 
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Hey, if you guys are thinking about leaving medicine.... It's possible if you are willing to settle for lower compensation + PSLF + PTO. A lot of state governments have self-funded insurance. They have departments filled with MAs/Cphts and would be more then happy to take a MD with no residency as an analyst. These departments also have medical consultants, but you won't be able to get these positions without board certification (you won't be list eligible). Though the salary difference isn't that much due to how the union is so strong for some of these states (minimum starting salary is hugely different, but maximum salary isn't a huge spread), the nursing consultant makes more then the pharmacy consultants for some departments.

1) Health appeals - You won't be able to do medical reviews, but you can handle evidence of coverage ones. Stuff like out of network anesthesiologist, or if a stolen C-PAP should be reimbursed. Or stuff like if a fertility drug should be covered for the member due to their HIPAA condition.
2) Formulary review - Stuff like if Synthroid should be covered or not. Should generic Glumetza be covered, while the generic Glucophage is so much cheaper?
3) Working with pharmacy benefit management with the state. To help design health out comes. Ensuring your members are discharged for example with the necessary medications after a MI. Or establishing home infusion to save money and improve patient outcomes.
4) Medicare Part B vs Medicare Part D

Not going to huge depth. As there isn't too many MDs working for the local state government for that sweet sweet PSLF (my story stands out easily). If you have all federal loans, think about it. Financially it works out pretty well once you break above 300k in student loans. As remember the principal and interest is forgiven. Pension is also pretty sweet (unless you in Michigian, your pension isn't protected and it was slashed recently). EX: 300k with ~7% interest! It's almost like 50-60k taxable income needed per year. Plus that your state worker salary and value of pension. You technically making 120k a year minimum for next 10 years. Also you are working 40 hours a week compared to a physician. Also you are spared the brutal minimum 3 years of residency.

Things the insurance world look for:
1) Experience with appeals or grievance.
2) Knowledge on prior authorization and appeals
3) Final adverse benefit determination recognition. When people exhausted their appeals.
4) Understanding of how IRO works, and relationship to Medicare and Maximus.
5) How does a WRAP benefit works?
6) Stuff like recognizing if member can get diabetes supplies under Medicare Part B. So it's billed under Medicare instead of the Wrap.

Research those items and place it in your resume, and apply for your local self-funded state insurance. I have a feeling you'll have good odds of being hired.

Best of luck guys. I didn't match last year in Psychiatry. USIMG/SGU Grad 2016/236/228/CS 1st Attempt, 2016 Grad. No skin off my back. Medicine can keep their 28 hour interns. I'll be doing my chill 8-5 life. Retire at a comfortable age with my pension. No stress as long as I do my job. Expectations are there, but it's not that hard to meet after serving medical school. Job security due to the union also! Also if your state is pretty liberal, and have a strong Medicaid program. They are hiring so desperately due to recent political events.

Always willing to help people out. State agencies are different, but I think they are standard in fact... You would need to be list eligible. Need to be able to put right words down to bypass HR mechanical method of weeding people out. Even if position involves medical knowledge, HR will toss out your resume if you don't have buzzwords to meeting the criteria. Also you would need to know how to interview mechnically. So even if interviewer likes you, but you don't say the standard buzz words. You might not get hired. Some managers blur the line, and still hire you. But some managers are strict, and won't hire you even if they liked you.

I am always willing to answer questions if people PM. This option is only available to US Citizens or Green Card. Since you need a valid SSN for most state jobs, and pass a pretty thorough background check.
 
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