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I found this program that offers 6-months (graduate diploma in medical studies) and 12-month (professional master of medical sciences) degrees. It's designed for IMGs that are interested in research and helps with their integration into the North American system. It basically involves taking a graduate research course as well as a clinical skills course + observerships. It's at a Canadian university. Will obtaining such a graduate diploma or professional master of medical sciences degree help my application for the coming year?

Would this be better than doing observerships in States cause I will actually earn an additional degree?

Any help is appreciated!
 

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I found this program that offers 6-months (graduate diploma in medical studies) and 12-month (professional master of medical sciences) degrees. It's designed for IMGs that are interested in research and helps with their integration into the North American system. It basically involves taking a graduate research course as well as a clinical skills course + observerships. It's at a Canadian university. Will obtaining such a graduate diploma or professional master of medical sciences degree help my application for the coming year?

Would this be better than doing observerships in States cause I will actually earn an additional degree?

Any help is appreciated!
I think rotations in the states would be more productive since it would involve not only facetime in the training hospital but also the possibility for establishing future connections. Maybe someone with PD experience can shine some light on this?
 
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I might be in the worst possible position in the country regarding matching. I should have just not even gone to med school because I have a useless degree now.
 

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Yeah I went to the school on Match Day and they still had some staff there. Talked about what I can do..they said they will contact programs and sell my credentials to them and try to secure a position as well.

Unfortunately, this week the school is on spring break and probably won't respond to emails/calls
I hope that you are getting support from mentors and your school. And from people in your personal life. Reach out if you need help and especially if you're feeling hopeless.
 
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I hope that you are getting support from mentors and your school. And from people in your personal life. Reach out if you need help and especially if you're feeling hopeless.
Thank you.

But my school only responds if I contact them and have no "extra" pull that I don't have myself in calling programs. I can't even challenge them without burning that bridge. Useless as they are. None of my mentors/family/friends can help with the fact that its 8 years ~ a decade down the drain with 200k in loans.. and zero job prospects. Plus the thought of pushing to strengthen the app again only to inevitably be disappointed again makes it one extra year. The merger next year is probably already going to sink me.

Working in research now and having to work in close proximity to residents is basically torture at this point.
 

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Thank you.

But my school only responds if I contact them and have no "extra" pull that I don't have myself in calling programs. I can't even challenge them without burning that bridge. Useless as they are. None of my mentors/family/friends can help with the fact that its 8 years ~ a decade down the drain with 200k in loans.. and zero job prospects. Plus the thought of pushing to strengthen the app again only to inevitably be disappointed again makes it one extra year. The merger next year is probably already going to sink me.

Working in research now and having to work in close proximity to residents is basically torture at this point.
Ever thought about doing something more clinical besides research? Like OMM fellowship?
 

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Thank you.

But my school only responds if I contact them and have no "extra" pull that I don't have myself in calling programs. I can't even challenge them without burning that bridge. Useless as they are. None of my mentors/family/friends can help with the fact that its 8 years ~ a decade down the drain with 200k in loans.. and zero job prospects. Plus the thought of pushing to strengthen the app again only to inevitably be disappointed again makes it one extra year. The merger next year is probably already going to sink me.

Working in research now and having to work in close proximity to residents is basically torture at this point.
How many programs did you apply to this last cycle? Did you focus on any particular region or did you apply broadly?
 

doctorsdatdo

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Not aware of any programs I can attend. My residency interests are in IM/FM so I'm not sure how much that would help
I think OMM fellowships are open to medical students in their 2nd years. Clearly more research ddnt do it for you. You need some sort of clinical experience since you been out for awhile.
 

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Not aware of any programs I can attend. My residency interests are in IM/FM so I'm not sure how much that would help
bro if I were you, I would give this clinical medicine one more shot. If it doesn't work out, try to become a midlevel of some sort or get into pharmaceuticals with your research background
 
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I think OMM fellowships are open to medical students in their 2nd years. Clearly more research ddnt do it for you. You need some sort of clinical experience since you been out for awhile.
True. Unfortunately I am graduated. Not sure if that changes my eligibility. I'm going to try and pursue a job at my school for a program they have where grads can be clinical sciences lecturers. Have to see if they have funding for this year.

I had my research oriented to being placed in clinical settings. Unfortunately publications lagged but will have some more soon.
bro if I were you, I would give this clinical medicine one more shot. If it doesn't work out, try to become a midlevel of some sort or get into pharmaceuticals with your research background
I am reapplying if necessary. Much broader and rurally/community focus. I did focus on the NorthEast but will do the whole country if needed. Making connections and reaching out. I feel a bit better now that a friend of mine (who matched very well) explained about nonclinical jobs available (that he plans on pursuing as well).
 

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True. Unfortunately I am graduated. Not sure if that changes my eligibility. I'm going to try and pursue a job at my school for a program they have where grads can be clinical sciences lecturers. Have to see if they have funding for this year.

I had my research oriented to being placed in clinical settings. Unfortunately publications lagged but will have some more soon.


I am reapplying if necessary. Much broader and rurally/community focus. I did focus on the NorthEast but will do the whole country if needed. Making connections and reaching out. I feel a bit better now that a friend of mine (who matched very well) explained about nonclinical jobs available (that he plans on pursuing as well).
Not sure if research is the ticket to rural FM matches. Can you do aways?
 
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doctorsdatdo

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I'm not a student of the school anymore so I'm not sure if possible. I'm looking up if I am qualified for externships but nothing yet.
What you need is some sort of GME training or GME like training. Doing research in a top hospital is not as useful as you think because residencies that can make use of your research are too competitive for you and residencies that you may have a shot in are not research heavy.

Look into pathology and nuclear medicine. You can always do family medicine / IM after a successful pathology/ nuc med residency that rehabitulated whatever deficiency you’ve got.
 

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True. Unfortunately I am graduated. Not sure if that changes my eligibility. I'm going to try and pursue a job at my school for a program they have where grads can be clinical sciences lecturers. Have to see if they have funding for this year.

I had my research oriented to being placed in clinical settings. Unfortunately publications lagged but will have some more soon.


I am reapplying if necessary. Much broader and rurally/community focus. I did focus on the NorthEast but will do the whole country if needed. Making connections and reaching out. I feel a bit better now that a friend of mine (who matched very well) explained about nonclinical jobs available (that he plans on pursuing as well).
Hi @theosteoblasts have you searched as well on "Find a Resident"? I didn't realize until now that this was an official site listed on AAMC's page. See if they have anything that will work for you, and sorry about your struggles this time
https://students-residents.aamc.org/applying-residency/findaresident/
 
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Hi @theosteoblasts have you searched as well on "Find a Resident"? I didn't realize until now that this was an official site listed on AAMC's page. See if they have anything that will work for you, and sorry about your struggles this time
https://students-residents.aamc.org/applying-residency/findaresident/
Thank you for this. I will use it and hopefully find something.

@theosteoblasts 2 AOA ACCREDITED TRI positions available in New York. Our program is currently in pre accreditation with the acgme and we anticipate receiving initial accreditation once reviewed in August, but at this time can only hire DO students. We have two PGY 1 positions available for a one year internship. Please email with interest- [email protected]
Thank you for this message. I had emailed them a month and could not get an interview . I have emailed them again and hopefully something changes.
 
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Thank you for this. I will use it and hopefully find something.



Thank you for this message. I had emailed them a month and could not get an interview . I have emailed them again and hopefully something changes.
PGY-1 Family Medicine position available July 1, 2019 at HCA Gulf Coast Education Consortium Program-Family Medicine – Houston, Texas. Interested candidates please forward the following application materials via email ONLY to Rick Jones, GME Coordinator at [email protected]: Copy of complete ERAS application with photo, Dean’s letter / MSPE / Medical School transcript / USMLE Scores Step 1, 2 / Comlex Level 1,2/ Current CV / Medical School Diploma and a Personal Statement. We will subsequently require 3 letters of recommendation. Only qualified applicants will be considered. If you are considered for this position you will be contacted.

Good luck!
 
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