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idk you might know better than I. This is the write up from Night 5 from the noob game. This is what I thought meant someone had been converted but it might’ve been the neighborizer thing: But several of them did not end up quite where they expected, with whom they expected, doing what they expected.

Was diff converted before or after the death of gradus?
Before because Gradus was converter.

Diff the wolf after conversion evidently outed another wolf to gain points from village.
 
I think you forgot coffee? was night killed last night and is confirmed villager. Then rezzed miz, previously confirmed villager. It wouldn’t make sense for miz to switch affiliation especially since they were rezzed by a villager

It wouldn’t make sense yet. Note that she is a prime conversion target down the road, along with the other three that I had listed.


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Village:
•miz - mod confirmed villager upon death, rezzed by a mod confirmed villager

Village Leaning:
•wondering - idk just a feel
•BigCats
•Sunbodi
•genny
•MsP
•cubs
•Lupin21

Neutral/Unsure:
•Mel/Stagg - doesn’t post enough solid reads, would like to see a list
•Navilly - while I appreciate more posting, wish you had more solid reads. More village leaning than others. I appreciated your list
•SAR - not sure, difficult for me to read

Wolf Leaning:
•Killerleaf
•muttmanager
•wolfie
•mypetmoose
you're kidding right?
You know there's other things villagers do than just post full reads lists day in and day out right? You need a better way of evaluating how people are village.


I don’t need to give reads on every player at this point, actually. Honestly, having definitive reads on every gorram player in this game at this point is weird to me and it’s just not how I play. I will likely post a fuller reads list in a few days but it won’t be today.
Honestly I'm starting to wonder if she is just needling people for reads as a way to look like she's wolf-hunting because she's too new to understand how to fake village play besides asking for reads.
 
I wrote wolfie as a wolf in my wolf writeup because I'm holding her to the same standards as everyone.

But based on her own standards she is neutral. It was very foolish for her to wait 4 minutes after lynch to post last night.
 
Alissa is right for asking for reads.

Wolves always tend to be different from others when listing reads or will avoid it entirely. Yes wolves can fake reads as can be seen with nav's half efforted read (may be a wolf)- but they're more likely to not post reads at all.

I'm paying careful attention to people who refuse to contribute to village.
 
Alissa is right for asking for reads.

Wolves always tend to be different from others when listing reads or will avoid it entirely. Yes wolves can fake reads as can be seen with nav's half efforted read (may be a wolf)- but they're more likely to not post reads at all.

I'm paying careful attention to people who refuse to contribute to village.
She's also not really evaluating because myself, nav, and others that she has said "haven't posted reads" have actually been posting reads, just not in giant lists like y'all are used to from the noob game.
 
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Tinfoil: killerleaf is obviouswolfing so that team members can bus her and gain village cred when she flips, while additionally buying another day for another wolf who might also currently be suspected. Bet the wolves don’t want to see what would happen in a tie between two wolves now that Sunbodi’s used up the tiebreaker.
Would a wolf be that stupid as to attempt to lynch me?

Maybe a villager that thinks I'm turned?
She makes me slightly concerned about chaos or otherwise. Wolves lost a member yesterday so I feel like they’d be more protective of the wolves that are left than to let one open wolf.

unlynch killer lynch mpm - i know I’ve been back and forth a lot between them today. @killerleaf know that I’m keeping my eye on you
 
Grr I'm a he! I'm here now.
Sorry!!! I’ve been calling you a she! It’s been said that it’s somewhat safe to assume on the pre vet forum someone is a she unless stated otherwise. I promise not to make this mistake again
 
you're kidding right?
You know there's other things villagers do than just post full reads lists day in and day out right? You need a better way of evaluating how people are village.



Honestly I'm starting to wonder if she is just needling people for reads as a way to look like she's wolf-hunting because she's too new to understand how to fake village play besides asking for reads.
If she bussed that early as a noob wolf I will eat my hat.
 
If she bussed that early as a noob wolf I will eat my hat.
Oooo I didn't consider this, I'm not as focused on this game so I wasn't cognizant of where she was on the barks lynch, thank you for pointing this out.
 
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Found it @SARdoghandler. Sorry I’ll update my list. It sounds like you’re having a bad day and that really sucks, I’m sorry for that. Have any of your reads changed since posting these?

Wolves too can have bad days. Never let it detract for voting for those you are suspicious of.


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Why?

You can blame Dr. FTF, he told us to do full lists
He's not a doctor
 
Someone join me with mutts. I don't like the Wolfie bandwagon and I'm less sus of MPM after skimming the entire thread
 
Now that you're here care to post a full list of reads?

I'm sure you don't want to get lynched but you have plenty of people voting for you right now.

You'll have to prove your innocence with a list

Apparently I need to say it louder for the people in the back

Providing
Lists
Does
Not
Make
Someone
Village

Insert clap emojis at your leisure

It does nothing to prove "innocence" in any way, shape, or form. Anyone can make a list. Villagers can not make lists.
 
idk you might know better than I. This is the write up from Night 5 from the noob game. This is what I thought meant someone had been converted but it might’ve been the neighborizer thing: But several of them did not end up quite where they expected, with whom they expected, doing what they expected.

Was diff converted before or after the death of gradus?
(Not game-relevant, but diff was converted with the death of grad since he could auto convert anyone on his lynch wagon. She was converted at lynch close (most unhappily lol).)
 
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Strongly enough to bitch about how all my village reads keep getting lynched like pippy did last game
Who are your village reads other than wolfie? How do you feel about SAR, mpm, and killer? These are other people that have had suspicions on them throughout the day
 
(Not game-relevant, but diff was converted with the death of grad since he could auto convert anyone on his lynch wagon. She was converted at lynch close (most unhappily lol).)
So that part in the write up had to do with hammer’s neighborizing thing
 
I'd really like people to consider Nav as a lynch. He's my biggest wolf read so far. Otherwise if it comes down to Wolfie v MPM I'm okay with voting mpm for previously stated reasons.
 
Nav is too good of a player for me to decide their affiliation. For lack of better term they did have a pretty garbage list. But if they are as good as everyone says this could be a deliberate wolf move.

Right now I want to lynch all the easier wolf targets ie. Mutts before moving to the chattier players
 
Wolves too can have bad days. Never let it detract for voting for those you are suspicious of.


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I personally don’t have the same suspicions for SAR as everyone else does so I was interested in hearing reasoning. Trust me... I learned this lesson in the noob game by trusting BigCats for 75% of it :lame:
 
Are you sure you aren’t MsP playing on two different accounts. Because play style and phrasing and all that Jazz is the same. But I guess what they said, birds of a feather, are the same gosh darned person.


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Loooooool. I kinda see it.
 
Apparently I need to say it louder for the people in the back

Providing
Lists
Does
Not
Make
Someone
Village

Insert clap emojis at your leisure

It does nothing to prove "innocence" in any way, shape, or form. Anyone can make a list. Villagers can not make lists.

With that said, knowing where people are on reads before they die and/or lynched can help with information down the line.

Information is helpful. Doesn’t make people village or wolf, but how you do your reads can help with interpretation.


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Now that you're here care to post a full list of reads?

I'm sure you don't want to get lynched but you have plenty of people voting for you right now.

You'll have to prove your innocence with a list
If you recall from the noob game, I posted quite a lot of reads lists with plausible reasons. Doesn’t change the fact that they were totally bogus and I was 100% lupine. I like when people put their reads on thread because I think village suffers when only the wolves are voicing their thoughts, but doesn’t mean I think people are automatically wolves for not posting reads. Seems pretty NAI for a lot of older folks from what I’ve seen in past games.
 
I'd really like people to consider Nav as a lynch. He's my biggest wolf read so far. Otherwise if it comes down to Wolfie v MPM I'm okay with voting mpm for previously stated reasons.

I have considered your offer, and I would like to decline at this time.


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With that said, knowing where people are on reads before they die and/or lynched can help with information down the line.

Information is helpful. Doesn’t make people village or wolf, but how you do your reads can help with interpretation.


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Yes, this. Written better and with less salt than mine.

Reads are good but they don't have to be formulaic lists on demand
 
I personally don’t have the same suspicions for SAR as everyone else does so I was interested in hearing reasoning. Trust me... I learned this lesson in the noob game by trusting BigCats for 75% of it :lame:
Y’all are really holding some strong grudges against me, huh? 🤣
 
The wolves are taking their sweet time tonight. did they quit because we figured them out?

I'll be back in about 30 minutes when the waffle commences. Sitting on Mutt because I believe mutt is a wolf
 
If she bussed that early as a noob wolf I will eat my hat.
Oooo I didn't consider this, I'm not as focused on this game so I wasn't cognizant of where she was on the barks lynch, thank you for pointing this out.

If I was a wolf, I would tell her to bus. People don’t expect the newer players. All it takes is one great coach, and village doesn’t know how to handle it.


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Can someone tell me how I’m bussing? I didn’t vote for barks yesterday. Sunbodi did
Someone join me with mutts. I don't like the Wolfie bandwagon and I'm less sus of MPM after skimming the entire thread
did you read my read on mpm? They are most sus to me along with killer and somewhat wolfie
Y’all are really holding some strong grudges against me, huh? 🤣
nah you seem OKAY this game but damn you eluded me so many times in the noob game. I remember I read you somewhat early on and then got attacked for it so I backed off. I was a nervous lil noob then...

Edit: I meant to say I voted for sunbodi.
 
The wolves are taking their sweet time tonight. did they quit because we figured them out?

What even does this mean?

I feel like I can't follow 95% of your thought patterns today but can't tell if that's because I'm so mentally off or not
 
Why not Wolfie?

I am good if he just says reasons, but he isn’t even doing that. I am pretty sure he is just going with feelings, but Once again, don’t know because he is ignoring that.

Also Mel, when I come up village this game (well let me rephrase, as if I get converted down the line, you don’t get to claim you knew I was a wolf when I was a villager, so when you find out that I am in fact village at this point in the game), I am taking your Navilly reading card away forever. Because I think you are capped at getting me wrong 10 times in like 12 games.


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Also I apologize to the veterans for pushing lists. It was commonplace in the noob game and we were instructed to do so by Dr. FTF. He gave a lot of advice and tips so we kinda blindly followed him because we didn’t know better lol
 
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