Some thoughts from someone who considered DO but ended up in MD

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Clicking on this thread title and reading a page full of the newest posts really confused me..and then I lol'd. Especially at the angry asian father pics. Nice work everyone.
 
I don't know if you are being abstract but there are no DOs in the IM residency at Hopkins Hospital. There never have been any in the past either. Also, looking back at the AUA match master lists, for the last 5 years there have been no DOs matching to Emory so please tidy up your examples.

I haven't looked at the AUA match but I do know that I shadowed a DO resident at Hopkins (not IM, it was emergency... and there were 2 other guys there who I could have shadowed (can't remember if they were residents or attendings).

I'm not trying to start anything- I can see that you are a resident at Hopkins but just wanted to let people know that I've worked and shadowed at Hopkins and there were plenty of DOs there in various departments (maybe not internal with you)...just saying.
 
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!! this horrible thread was basically dead and you revived it. we had a funeral and everything.

I don't know what's worse... the fact he revived the thread, or got back on topic. Allow me to fix the latter.

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pre MDs and MD students can say whatever the hell they want, you guys have way the hell funnier threads.
 
i am ashamed to say I went through every single post and got a bunch of lols out of the pictures (and everyone's arguing).
 
Hard to believe animals like that roamed the planet at one point. It would've been cool to see!

Or more like... COLD, to see. Get it?








(.....Cuz of the ice)

I take my previous post back.
 
pre MDs and MD students can say whatever the hell they want, you guys have way the hell funnier threads.
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Totally...nothing like some fantastic humor to console myself about the fact that I'll never have any opportunities in life 🙂

Maybe I'll go post an incredibly lengthy post in the pre-allo forum about why I went DO instead of MD....oh wait, I don't think they care any more than we did about reading this post in this forum.

Are some limitations possible when you go DO? Of course. Does going to a awesome MD program guarantee you derm at Harvard? Of course not.

....now back to the Pokemon (which I have no grasp or appreciation of at this point, but might if people keep going at the rate they have been lol)
 
This thread needs moar shoop da woop, pikachu edition:

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Or how about, Scouter Power Level, Pikachu edition:

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I'm mixing everything great about this thread.
 
now i understand that these are pokemon, but wtf is a pokemon? Is that like the awesome TMNT of my day, or is it more the "Magic: The Gathering" of my day?
 
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Totally...nothing like some fantastic humor to console myself about the fact that I'll never have any opportunities in life 🙂

Maybe I'll go post an incredibly lengthy post in the pre-allo forum about why I went DO instead of MD....oh wait, I don't think they care any more than we did about reading this post in this forum.

Are some limitations possible when you go DO? Of course. Does going to a awesome MD program guarantee you derm at Harvard? Of course not.

....now back to the Pokemon (which I have no grasp or appreciation of at this point, but might if people keep going at the rate they have been lol)

I think if there were more people who not only weren't "ashamed" of being a only a DO, but didn't get defensive towards those who tout the superiority of MD, especially by touting the superiority of the DO, that the stupid debate could subside. In the end, a doc is a doc, nuff said.

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I realize that a more direct solution would be for allopaths to not act with superioty in the first place, but I just don't foresee that happening first.
 
Obviously it seems people don't want to resurrect the thread, but I have a question.

What is the stigma between an AOA residency as opposed to an ACGME residency? Or, what is the difference? Personally I have stats for both MD/DO, but I'm personally interested in DO.

Anyone care to explain, didn't feel the need to make a new thread.

you are hijacking this thread. it is a troll thread and you are trying to get it on topic. 👎

but to answer, some AOA residencies are in bad areas or not well known. When I say bad areas, I just mean areas where no one wants to live. They are also not usually attached to a major teaching hospital. There are good ones and proportionally, probably the same percentage of good ones and bad ones as ACGME residencies, however there are far more ACGME residencies. For numbers sake (and this is no where near accurate) lets pretend that half of both AOA and ACGME residencies are good and half are bad. Now let's pretend there are 1000 ACGME and 200 AOA residencies. If you want a good residency (and lets pretend you qualify), you have 100 AOA ones to choose from and 500 ACGME to chose from. And the odds are much better that at least some of them are in an area that you want to live.

Plus ACGME residencies are generally attached to large teaching hospitals which allows for a higher variety. That is largely where the stigma is.

Now to get back on topic:
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Obviously it seems people don't want to resurrect the thread, but I have a question.

What is the stigma between an AOA residency as opposed to an ACGME residency? Or, what is the difference? Personally I have stats for both MD/DO, but I'm personally interested in DO.

Anyone care to explain, didn't feel the need to make a new thread.

AOA=DO, ACGME=MD.

DO's can match into DO or MD residency programs... MD's can only match into MD residency programs. There are a lot more MD residency programs out there, and the way things are going... in order to match into an MD residency as a DO, you'll need to take the USMLE (some people say you don't have to, but I've read a lot about it here and it's just SAFER and better to take both COMLEX and USMLE if your aim is ACGME residencies).

You may come across many defensive pre-DO students here who claim that a DO can match into anything an MD student can... and while this is true, there's certainly a couple more obstacles to overcome when matching into a competitive MD residency like derm. However, there are some DO-friendly specialities as well.

If you feel DO is where you want to go and you want to do OMM, then by all means you should do it. The distinction between MD and DO isn't that different though... the "holistic" approach osteopathic medicine talks about has been integrated into allopathic medicine as well. So the two are pretty much indistinguishable as far as training and practice go (except for OMT).

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This thread went full ******

Everybody knows you never go full ******, man.
 
I think if there were more people who not only weren't "ashamed" of being a only a DO, but didn't get defensive towards those who tout the superiority of MD, especially by touting the superiority of the DO, that the stupid debate could subside. In the end, a doc is a doc, nuff said.

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I realize that a more direct solution would be for allopaths to not act with superioty in the first place, but I just don't foresee that happening first.
I totally agree. Every time I read threads like this I just think about how much I look forward to graduating from my mediocre school to do my mediocre residency at a non-competitive program....and then the people I work with will finally not CARE what letters are after my name. And that they'll def come to me when their knee hurts lol 🙂

As a potential future pediatrician, I have to say, I LOVE THIS.

Borderline offensive, but again, I have to admit I laughed...

Am I part man if I laugh at things like this?? :laugh:
 
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