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Could of got their?
sleep deprivation is a helluva drug.
Could of got their?
Man I typed on a phone and I've worked 24 hrs in the past 31hrs....don't be a douchebag
I know the difference in usage between there and their....but I'm not even gonna fix my post because that's so ridiculus to nitpick right now
Man, these threads on how much third year sucks are kind of terrifying. :\
Could of got their?
Wow! Your med school did you a disservice.
Things won't change unless you act. Consider speaking with the curriculum director if you feel you have not been adequately prepared.
- We are expected to know the complete physical exam. Most of us have performed it (at least) 50 times by now (end of 1st year for me). Also they hire actor-patients with pathology so we can hear/feel cardiopulmonary pathology, abnormally palpable organs, prostates, ovaries, etc.
- Not only do we write soap notes 1st year, we are expected to be able to present patients cogently. We're even "tested" on this during various group activities. For example, in PBL or in our clinical track the facilitator might simply say, "FunnyCurrent, please present the patient reviewing all information given thus far."
- Most of us have spent so much time in clinic we are used to standing constantly. I laughed the other day when one of the undergrad volunteers asked for a break to sit down.
- The rest of the stuff you listed will indeed suck
Could of got their?
Wow! Your med school did you a disservice.
Things won't change unless you act. Consider speaking with the curriculum director if you feel you have not been adequately prepared.
- We are expected to know the complete physical exam. Most of us have performed it (at least) 50 times by now (end of 1st year for me). Also they hire actor-patients with pathology so we can hear/feel cardiopulmonary pathology, abnormally palpable organs, prostates, ovaries, etc.
- Not only do we write soap notes 1st year, we are expected to be able to present patients cogently. We're even "tested" on this during various group activities. For example, in PBL or in our clinical track the facilitator might simply say, "FunnyCurrent, please present the patient reviewing all information given thus far."
- Most of us have spent so much time in clinic we are used to standing constantly. I laughed the other day when one of the undergrad volunteers asked for a break to sit down.
- The rest of the stuff you listed will indeed suck
I'm on psych right now and it's pretty much full of awesome. I currently don't have any interest in going into psych, but the psychopathology is really fascinating. The 3rd year workload is fairly light as well, so it's not all bad.
It all depends on what rotation you're on.
I'm surprised no one mentioned all the horrible downtime. I'm doing Peds right now and just finished 2 weeks of in-patient gen peds. Awful. Make you be there 6-5 Mon-Friday and 6-1 on one weekend day. When there is stuff to do it's all good, but after 1pm there's nothing. Spending the last 4 hours of the day sitting in the resident room (and I personally can't study because it's too loud) for 2 weeks straight was awful awful awful awful AWFUL. So glad that part of peds is over!!
But like I said, it's a lot of fun when you actually prepare for and do rounds in the morning.
That's when you ask us if there's anything else you could help us with and if we're nice we send you home.
The 3rd year workload is light? That's easy to say on psych, lol. Wait til trauma surg or IM.
I was referring to the psych 3rd year workload. I know it's completely different on IM/surg. I was pointing out that not all of 3rd year is terrible.
It all depends on what rotation you're on.
I'm surprised no one mentioned all the horrible downtime. I'm doing Peds right now and just finished 2 weeks of in-patient gen peds. Awful. Make you be there 6-5 Mon-Friday and 6-1 on one weekend day. When there is stuff to do it's all good, but after 1pm there's nothing. Spending the last 4 hours of the day sitting in the resident room (and I personally can't study because it's too loud) for 2 weeks straight was awful awful awful awful AWFUL. So glad that part of peds is over!!
But like I said, it's a lot of fun when you actually prepare for and do rounds in the morning.
Surg + OB were the two toughest
IM + Peds were mid tier
Family + Psych are "easy" street
People's experience are probably different, but for the most part, Surgery is notoriously tough and Psych is known to be more of the lighter parts. I was probably home by mid afternoon on psych compared to 5:30pm for IM/Peds and waking up at 5:00am for Surgery
He asked to sit down???Wow! Your med school did you a disservice.
Things won't change unless you act. Consider speaking with the curriculum director if you feel you have not been adequately prepared.
- We are expected to know the complete physical exam. Most of us have performed it (at least) 50 times by now (end of 1st year for me). Also they hire actor-patients with pathology so we can hear/feel cardiopulmonary pathology, abnormally palpable organs, prostates, ovaries, etc.
- Not only do we write soap notes 1st year, we are expected to be able to present patients cogently. We're even "tested" on this during various group activities. For example, in PBL or in our clinical track the facilitator might simply say, "FunnyCurrent, please present the patient reviewing all information given thus far."
- Most of us have spent so much time in clinic we are used to standing constantly. I laughed the other day when one of the undergrad volunteers asked for a break to sit down.
- The rest of the stuff you listed will indeed suck
That's when you ask us if there's anything else you could help us with and if we're nice we send you home.
Lol you've probably been an intern for less than a month...
You're acting like you're the boss or something. If an intern tried to tell me what to do I'd lol in their face.
See that's what I'm talking about: "my" med students, like you're somehow categorically different with one extra month of training.. Interns, especially brand new ones, are the bottom of the hierarchy. You shouldn't be the one deciding when the students leave... usually a senior resident or attending does that.. You're talking like you're the attending. Hard to stomach people on a power trip.
See that's what I'm talking about: "my" med students, like you're somehow categorically different with one extra month of training.. Interns, especially brand new ones, are the bottom of the hierarchy. You shouldn't be the one deciding when the students leave... usually a senior resident or attending does that.. You're talking like you're the attending. Hard to stomach people on a power trip.
Haha, I wish; at most places interns look after the m3s, although the senior resident may assign them patients, it's usually our job to manage the 3rd years, while sub-is report directly to the senior. We take the students to lunch, conferences, w/e. It'd be awesome if the senior residents or attendings managed them, though.
And while it's true that differences clinically between interns and m4s, they are probably not that big at this point as m4s may have had more recent clinical experience in some cases, it doesn't take much time being a resident as opposed to a m4 for that gulf to be very wide, very fast. Once you get here, you'll understand.
By the way, students are obviously at the bottom of the medical hierarchy.
You're acting like you're the boss or something. If an intern tried to tell me what to do I'd lol in their face. Also, I know way more than most of the new interns FYI.
That would be a very foolish thing to do.
Keep in mind that you're talking to someone who thinks it's a great idea to trumpet to all PDs that his LOA was due to psych reasons, and that they (and not he, of course) will just have to just have to deal with it.
By the way, students are obviously at the bottom of the medical hierarchy.
for what, the past week?Yeah let us know how that works for you. All you need is one "does not act in a professional manner, has a poor understanding of the medical hierarchy" on your MSPE and you'll become very familiar with SOAP.
I happen to be very nice to my med students; I do a lot of teaching and always send them home early, but one of the most important tasks of m3 is to understand how to behave in a hospital setting.
for what, the past week?
Lighten up, Francis. We all know that GladifImakeit isn't going to LOL in any faces, but a little humility all around goes a long ways.
Two weeks
haha or tell PDs to deal with it?
I'm guessing you went into rads because you lack people skills? Sounds to me like you are on a power trip. You can insult me and stalk me and try to intimidate me all you want, but I think you're already enough of a jerk, no? Being an intern for 2 weeks and acting like you are somehow superior, which I would not do if I were the attending, really seems sad. And as to your snarky little comment, many medical students deal with personal illness. Affirmative statements are therapeutic. I am a stronger person for having overcome depression. I am sure I will match at a top notch program.
I'm guessing you went into rads because you lack people skills? Sounds to me like you are on a power trip. You can insult me and stalk me and try to intimidate me all you want, but I think you're already enough of a jerk, no? Being an intern for 2 weeks and acting like you are somehow superior, which I would not do if I were the attending, really seems sad. And as to your snarky little comment, many medical students deal with personal illness. Affirmative statements are therapeutic. I am a stronger person for having overcome depression. I am sure I will match at a top notch program.
This isn't necessarily directed at you, but I think we can all treat each other with respect even if we disagree about things.
Let's not insult each other. I've seen Drizz got out of his way to help people all the time on this site.
Drizz is more than holding his own I'd say...this is entertaining. Carry on.
Drizz is more than holding his own I'd say...this is entertaining. Carry on.
I don't need luck. I've got skills. Intern-like skills. Moreover, feeling good about myself isn't contingent upon insulting others.
I'm guessing you went into rads because you lack people skills? Sounds to me like you are on a power trip. You can insult me and stalk me and try to intimidate me all you want, but I think you're already enough of a jerk, no? Being an intern for 2 weeks and acting like you are somehow superior, which I would not do if I were the attending, really seems sad. And as to your snarky little comment, many medical students deal with personal illness. Affirmative statements are therapeutic. I am a stronger person for having overcome depression. I am sure I will match at a top notch program.
Dude how is he "stalking" you? Your thread is second from the top on the first page and is titled "PDs will have to deal...". I'm not sure how you didn't see that coming back to bite you in the ass.
I was referring to posting details about what medical school I may or may not attend. Kind of a low blow IMO. If he's gonna attack me like that he should not hide behind his user name. Luckily he's not close in his suspicions, but let's please not speculate further...
Didn't know you could say assballs on SDN. Good to know for later.