Stanford Master's in CHPR?

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Hey guys,

I've been researching possible master's programs I'd be interested in doing in my gap year before going to medical school. One that has really caught my attention (their research is similar to my interests) is the Stanford Master's CHPR Program (Community Health and Prevention Research). Obviously, I'm assuming admission into any Stanford Master's Program is difficult. But I was wondering if anyone had specific experience/information regarding the quality of the program and the difficulty of admission? There doesn't seem to be any info on avg GRE (I'm saying GRE as opposed to MCAT because I won't have taken the MCAT but time I apply, so I'm opting to take the GRE instead), gpa, or any EC's that are required.

I'm guessing that it is basically like applying to Stanford Medical School in its rigor (Need a 3.9+ GPA, 330+ GRE, Shadowing, Clinical and Non-clinical volunteering???), and of course the only difference would be that I would need to show past research experience? Is just 1 year of research enough? Is admissions as rigorous as getting into Stanford med school? There doesn't seem to be many people in the program, but I'm also missing data on how many applied (and the acceptance rate). Any sort of insight would be greatly appreciated!
 
@Weirdy Will do, I just happen to be someone who has to plan out everything 😛. My winter break just started, so because I don't have any homework or anything, I thought I would spend time creating a sort of 4 year plan on things I want to do that would also help my chances for the master's program. Sorry if I sounded like a typical premed freshman/gunner, just trying to stand out from the crowd, that's all 🙂.
 
SupremeDoc said:
@Weirdy Will do, I just happen to be someone who has to plan out everything 😛. My winter break just started, so because I don't have any homework or anything, I thought I would spend time creating a sort of 4 year plan on things I want to do that would also help my chances for the master's program. Sorry if I sounded like a typical premed freshman/gunner, just trying to stand out from the crowd, that's all 🙂.
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Focus on college. If you’re too busy planning you’re future, you’re not going to stand out because you’ll be too busy planning to do anything.

There’s also no point in planning out things that specific this far in the future, since so many things can change.
 
SupremeDoc said:
I'm guessing that it is basically like applying to Stanford Medical School in its rigor (Need a 3.9+ GPA, 330+ GRE, Shadowing, Clinical and Non-clinical volunteering???), and of course the only difference would be that I would need to show past research experience? Is just 1 year of research enough? Is admissions as rigorous as getting into Stanford med school? There doesn't seem to be many people in the program, but I'm also missing data on how many applied (and the acceptance rate). Any sort of insight would be greatly appreciated!
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Mostly I'd like to echo what other people have said, but I'd also like to add that admissions will definitely not be Stanford med admissions + more research on top of that because a whole lot more people want to attend Stanford medical school than want to attend and pay for a Master's program. (Truth be told if you don't really want to go into public health I don't understand why you would want to, either, and even if you do an MPH during or after med school seems more appropriate).
 
@Matthew9Thirtyfive I didn't mean to come off as rude, but I didn't come here and type up that whole paragraph just to get a "focus on school" typical answer. I already know that......I was simply inquiring about a particular program that interested me. It's not like I'm going to send in my application tomorrow or something, just asking a question.

@JMilo I'm glad I can help you in that regard, as medical school is tough enough. Don't see how I come off as neurotic though when I literally said I don't want anything to do with "college" during winter break. And no, I'm not a gunner, its a joke on my profile. I wish I was, maybe I'd be more proactive about my grades, but thank you for the compliment.

@cactusman Thank you for actually answering my question, it really means a lot to me. That makes sense, a lot more people have probably heard about the medical school than a specific master's program, which makes it less competitive. I was under the assumption that getting into a MD/MPH is really hard though? And I thought spending my gap year attaining a master's would be a good idea. I'm interested in being a physician in the future, but I'm also interested in influencing public policy. Fortunately, I think paying for the master's program won't be a problem either.
 
SupremeDoc said:
@Matthew9Thirtyfive I didn't mean to come off as rude, but I didn't come here and type up that whole paragraph just to get a "focus on school" typical answer. I already know that......I was simply inquiring about a particular program that interested me. It's not like I'm going to send in my application tomorrow or something, just asking a question.
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Will you even be aware of this program in 3 years? Will you even think that you'd need to do a gap year before med school? Many med students do an MPH between M3 and M4 year so if you really want to get an MPH, do it then and not before because no one will care that you have an additional degree that's not a PhD or JD (or professional equivalent like MBBS, MB – at which point, what are you even doing applying to a US med school lol) on your application.
 
@Lost in Translation Those are all very fair points. It may be best to just do the MPH then. I just feel like I should definitely take a gap year since its almost become the norm, so it would put me at a disadvantage if I didn't (I could accumulate more clinical hours for example if I didn't have enough).
 
SupremeDoc said:
@JMilo I'm glad I can help you in that regard, as medical school is tough enough. Don't see how I come off as neurotic though when I literally said I don't want anything to do with "college" during winter break. And no, I'm not a gunner, its a joke on my profile. I wish I was, maybe I'd be more proactive about my grades, but thank you for the compliment.
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@SupremeDoc I am so sorry that I called you a gunner, when you do not self identify as a gunner. I see now that this is a troll post, and wish your the best of luck.
 
@Weirdy Hey, I'm honestly reaching out to you. What do you mean by "real life"? Is there something I'm missing? I work hard every day and I know its tough; nothing is guaranteed because you feel like you "deserve it". Things don't happen because you want it to, and life is not fair. I don't see what else I'm missing here....would appreciate if you could help me out. You're acting as if I'm delusional, when you don't even know me. Don't know why some people on this site are so toxic.

@JMilo I didn't mean for the post to be "troll".....do you even read your own comments? Why are people having a problem with my post? I was merely inquiring about a particular program. Am I not allowed to do that? Even if it helps, or doesn't help, or ends up killing me, I'm allowed to ask.
 
SupremeDoc said:
@Weirdy Hey, I'm honestly reaching out to you. What do you mean by "real life"? Is there something I'm missing? I work hard every day and I know its tough; nothing is guaranteed because you feel like you "deserve it". Things don't happen because you want it to, and life is not fair. I don't see what else I'm missing here....would appreciate if you could help me out. You're acting as if I'm delusional, when you don't even know me. Don't know why some people on this site are so toxic.
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Be realistic. Its nice to have a 4 year plan. Its nice to have an MPH or a non-SMP masters thinking it'll boost your chances of getting into med school. Its nice to say that even though its a non-SMP, its from Standford and you're good to go.

However, **** happens in real life. Things rarely tend to go the way they go 4 years out.

You are a freshman. Things will drastically change for you in the next few years. You yourself will change within the next 4 years.

Until you face those challenges and grow from it, you really have no idea what's out there waiting.

That is the point I am trying to make.

The next level of maturity means taking in advice you don't like to hear, sucking it up, and formulating your own opinion after you get to that point.
Don't retort unless it is to follow up with another genuine question.

You've been very respectful, but to some of us you are still doe-eyed and extremely young. So when you reply in the state of maturity that you are in right now, it comes off as offensive to others.
 
SupremeDoc said:


[USER=884088]@JMilo I didn't mean for the post to be "troll".....do you even read your own comments? Why are people having a problem with my post? I was merely inquiring about a particular program. Am I not allowed to do that? Even if it helps, or doesn't help, or ends up killing me, I'm allowed to ask.[/USER]
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Its not what you say or the content of the matter, its how you say it and how you react to advice given that seems to be ruffling feathers.

Again, work on being a bit more conservative in your answers. It will go a very long way in the professional field.
 
SupremeDoc said:
@Matthew9Thirtyfive I didn't mean to come off as rude, but I didn't come here and type up that whole paragraph just to get a "focus on school" typical answer. I already know that......I was simply inquiring about a particular program that interested me. It's not like I'm going to send in my application tomorrow or something, just asking a question.

@JMilo I'm glad I can help you in that regard, as medical school is tough enough. Don't see how I come off as neurotic though when I literally said I don't want anything to do with "college" during winter break. And no, I'm not a gunner, its a joke on my profile. I wish I was, maybe I'd be more proactive about my grades, but thank you for the compliment.

@cactusman Thank you for actually answering my question, it really means a lot to me. That makes sense, a lot more people have probably heard about the medical school than a specific master's program, which makes it less competitive. I was under the assumption that getting into a MD/MPH is really hard though? And I thought spending my gap year attaining a master's would be a good idea. I'm interested in being a physician in the future, but I'm also interested in influencing public policy. Fortunately, I think paying for the master's program won't be a problem either.
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Never try to defend yourself on SDN...it just makes you look weak
 
@Weirdy Thank you for your comments, I really appreciate it. I understand what you mean, and will keep an open mind through these years rather than trying to plan for stuff that might not happen. It so happens to be a trait of my personality (to want to control everything in my life); I will work on changing that.

@GoinHardenYaHoe With all due respect sir, I could not care less about looking "weak". This is an online forum with anonymous users. But I will take your advice, I won't ever go on defense again.
 
SupremeDoc said:
master's programs I'd be interested in doing in my gap year... Stanford Master's CHPR Program (Community Health and Prevention Research)... specific experience/information regarding the quality of the program and the difficulty of admission?
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Hey, so I'd suggest reaching out to their admissions department to see what they're willing to share with you about average stats of successful applicants, and if they can connect you with current students or alum. Just say that the program caught your eye and you're wondering how you can structure your undergrad schedule to be a competitive applicant when the time comes. Nothing wrong with that. Re: getting beat up on SDN for just asking a question - it happens all the time. I think the "don't look weak" post was actually friendly advice. Sometimes people who have nothing constructive to say like to mask that by bashing you for even asking the question, as if it's their sworn duty to comment on every. single. thread. Part of life experience is learning not to respond to that kind of stuff. I think it's great that you're interested in public health - maybe there's a reddit thread or an SDN thread other than pre-allo where you can find more useful info.
 
Sorry for reviving this thread, but I took @jazzmetal 's advice and emailed the CHPR program director to ask a few basic questions (avg gpa, avg GRE score, acceptance rate, etc.). I sent the email on the 21st of December, so its been a while and I haven't gotten a response. An automatic email was sent to me right after I sent my email that said my email would be read after January 7th.

Should I send a reminder email? Or wait 1 more week? I don't want to come off as impatient, and I'm sure they're busy at this current time to read some Freshman kid's email.
 
SupremeDoc said:
Sorry for reviving this thread, but I took @jazzmetal 's advice and emailed the CHPR program director to ask a few basic questions (avg gpa, avg GRE score, acceptance rate, etc.). I sent the email on the 21st of December, so its been a while and I haven't gotten a response. An automatic email was sent to me right after I sent my email that said my email would be read after January 7th.

Should I send a reminder email? Or wait 1 more week? I don't want to come off as impatient, and I'm sure they're busy at this current time to read some Freshman kid's email.
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Hi, I'd wait another week. Holidays and all. 🙂
 
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