State Income Taxes

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I have been a practicing Emergency Physician for 25 years. I would like to forewarn students and residients that it is important when job hunting to consider the tax structures for the states you may be anticipating practice in when you complete your training. For example the State of Oregon just raised the maximum state income tax to 10.5% on dollars over 125K if single and 250K if married. The base rate is about 9%. This means essentially that if you make 250K which is typical of Emergency Medicine Physicians you will pay the State of Oregon about $25,000.00. To contrast that with a state that does not tax income such as Washington, Texas, Nevada, Florida, Tennessee, New Hamphsire, Wyoming and a few others that have a sales taxes. You would have to spend your entire income and then some to equal that tax liability.

Keep that in mind when you are negotiating your pay with your new employer. Oregon and Hawaii have the highest tax rates in the USA. If congress raises top rates to 39% this year and you buy a house in one of these two states you will likley be giving state and federal governments 50 cents for each dollar you have left to spend. Think about that, you now make $250,000 per year but get to keep $125,000. Do the math before you move or take a job in Oregon or Hawaii or other similarly high taxed states.

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Or in other ways to think about it--you're spending one month of the year working solely to pay your state taxes and then working another 5 months of the year solely to pay your federal taxes.
 
Hey, Obama - want to fix the economy ?

Let the people keep more of the money they earn, so that they can spend it at their discretion. Thus, there's an incentive to work and achieve.

What a novel idea.
 
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I thought my friends in residency who were dead set on moving back to California (Commiefornia) were nuts. They now have to pay over 10% in personal income tax, 10% in state sales tax, in addition to the Federal robbery. All said, that's close to 40% of salary going to the government before you even see one dime in your bank account.

I lived in California for 2 years during residency, and I'm still not certain what extra benefits or services all of those taxes provided to taxpayers.

Nevada may have its problems, but I'm sure glad I settled here rather than a high tax state.
 
Same with City/County taxes. Once again, depeding on where you live there is similar (although lower taxes). There is a 4% difference btw county lines here (housing).
 
Same with City/County taxes. Once again, depeding on where you live there is similar (although lower taxes). There is a 4% difference btw county lines here (housing).

Property taxes are something to consider as well. States like Texas which have no personal income tax, tend to have high property taxes, whereas the property taxes in CA are lower.

No matter what you do, the government will take its pound of flesh.
 
Property taxes are something to consider as well. States like Texas which have no personal income tax, tend to have high property taxes, whereas the property taxes in CA are lower.

No matter what you do, the government will take its pound of flesh.

The good thing about that is that property values in Texas tend to be lower, and you can choose where you live... You don't need to own the 2M dollar house (and pay subsequent property taxes...) You can live in a relatively nice 'normal' area and still make out way ahead of a place with high state income taxes. You can choose (in that way) what you are willing to spend in property taxes.
 
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The good thing about that is that property values in Texas tend to be lower, and you can choose where you live... You don't need to own the 2M dollar house (and pay subsequent property taxes...) You can live in a relatively nice 'normal' area and still make out way ahead of a place with high state income taxes. You can choose (in that way) what you are willing to spend in property taxes.

True. In CA you can't get any decent housing in a good area for under $800K.
 
You're math doesn't quite work out. Income tax rates are marginal, so even if your income puts you into the highest tax bracket, you're only paying the top rate on income you earn over the threshold for the highest rate. If you earn $250,001, then you only have to pay the higher rate on that last dollar.
 
You're math doesn't quite work out. Income tax rates are marginal, so even if your income puts you into the highest tax bracket, you're only paying the top rate on income you earn over the threshold for the highest rate. If you earn $250,001, then you only have to pay the higher rate on that last dollar.

My overall rate comes to about 27% Federal income tax. In CA, the majority of my salary would be taxed at the 10% rate. So yes, my math is slightly off, but it would come to approximately 36-37% of total salary.

You guys certainly don't accept any margin of error when it comes to debate.
 
What are these state income taxes y'all speak of?

Man, please pity me for living in poor, backwards Texas.

Take care,
Jeff

BTW, you wouldn't believe the amount of house I could get for that $800K y'all mentioned earlier.
 
What are these state income taxes y'all speak of?

Man, please pity me for living in poor, backwards Texas.

Take care,
Jeff

BTW, you wouldn't believe the amount of house I could get for that $800K y'all mentioned earlier.

are y'all sure that y'all have properly convinced us that y'all live in texas? y'all?
 
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What are these state income taxes y'all speak of?

Man, please pity me for living in poor, backwards Texas.

Take care,
Jeff

BTW, you wouldn't believe the amount of house I could get for that $800K y'all mentioned earlier.

Damned if I know.
I think we pay enough in homeowner's insurance here in FL to make up for it, though.
 
I'd post something about practicing in Florida, but I'm too busy counting the money I saved by switching to GEICO.
 
I was in the process of switching to Geico today....but then my dog struck oil in the backyard (again) while burying a bone. Got all that Geico paperwork dirty and useless.

God bless Texas.
 
God bless Texas.

Y'all.

Apparently this word irritates somebody.

Therefore I'll start using it more than I already do. If that's possible.

Take care, y'all!
Jeff
 
What are these state income taxes y'all speak of?

Man, please pity me for living in poor, backwards Texas.

Take care,
Jeff

BTW, you wouldn't believe the amount of house I could get for that $800K y'all mentioned earlier.

You should bring $800k to East Tennessee and see what it buys you. Want your own middle-sized city? Sure, you can have that...:laugh:

I'll point out that though TN has no state income tax, our sales tax sucks real hard. It's at 10% where I'm at, and that includes taxes on food/clothing (which I think is crap). Add onto that a wheel tax, driver tax, etc. and so on and it adds up pretty quick. And this isn't one isolated county. Sales tax and other county taxes are very similar throughout.
 
yeah going to school in Southern Cali has pretty much convinced me that East Tennessee is the greatest place on the face of the earth. 🙂
 
Since im not trying to give away my money to the government and would also like to pay off my student loans of 200k+, someone give me the top ten states to work/live from a tax perspective. Please include city/county if possible...
 
Since im not trying to give away my money to the government and would also like to pay off my student loans of 200k+, someone give me the top ten states to work/live from a tax perspective. Please include city/county if possible...

Alaska is probably the best.

I've found Nevada to be less onerous than others, especially CA.
 
Since im not trying to give away my money to the government and would also like to pay off my student loans of 200k+, someone give me the top ten states to work/live from a tax perspective. Please include city/county if possible...

You have to balance the lack of income tax, with the quality of life you'll have in that state. Yes, Alaska has no income tax, but would most people really be able to live there? (I have nothing against Alaska, just too cold for my taste).
 
Nah, theres no way in the world that i would live in Alaska! I dont want to wake up and be able to see russia from my backyard. lol Nevada would be nice though. I bet the ED docs in vegas have LOTS of great stories to tell..
 
Since im not trying to give away my money to the government and would also like to pay off my student loans of 200k+, someone give me the top ten states to work/live from a tax perspective. Please include city/county if possible...

New Hampshire: No state income tax or sales tax (other than the "Room and Meals" tax (restaurants and hotels) - 8.25% I think). We also have the cheapest liquor in the US so you should see pretty decent patient volume in the ERs up here....
 
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