State License Question

[prominence]

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i am interested in practicing in California, Arizona, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey, or Pennsylvania after completing my residency in NY.

my question is:
as far as medical school electives go, are there any specific requirements for these states?

for example, i have heard that need to do a family practice elective to get a state license to practice in California. do these other states mentioned above also require a family practice elective?

do any of these states require a neurology elective to get a state license to practice medicine?

also, i have heard that for Pennsylvania, you can only do a certain number of weeks of electives (6?) outside your school's own affiliated hospitals. does anyone know how many weeks that is?

 

[Apollyon]

Go to www.fsmb.org to find each state's medical board, and hit the websites (you may have to call each board, too). Various states specify how many clinical weeks you need (the minimum any have is 72), and electives at unaffiliated (with your medical school) hospitals may not be counted towards the minimum.

The "green book" (of residencies - check your medical library) also has a lot of this information in some appendices.

 

[DocWagner]

Where in the WORLD did you hear this? They require graduation from an accredited medical school and passing all three steps to licensure...and of course your money.
Medical school electives are not part of licensure, graduation is...in fact, all states go through FCVS to my knowledge and then you fill out a seperate state application.
I can't imagine any of your informaton to be true.

 

[iwakuni_doc]

I've known some states to differ in that most require completing PGY-1, while some require completing PGY-2 as well (Penn is one if I remember correctly).

I've never heard of any specific requirements as to med school courses - my own personal experience is with Kansas, but my roommates had licenses from California & Indiana and as far as I know this was never an issue for them.

 

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by DocWagner
Where in the WORLD did you hear this? They require graduation from an accredited medical school and passing all three steps to licensure...and of course your money.
Medical school electives are not part of licensure, graduation is...in fact, all states go through FCVS to my knowledge and then you fill out a seperate state application.
I can't imagine any of your informaton to be true.

Huh? Not all states require FCVS yet. Moreover, I do know that California, for one, requires an FP block as a med student.

Your thought that all you need is a degree is minimalist, and wrong. Research the issue.

 

[Global Disrobal]

They do have requirements but those are for graduates on Non-LCME institutions.

TX-Req Neurology Elective and NO clinical rotations in that state as a medical student inorder to do residency and beyond

CA-Fam Practice elective and graduation from an approved foriegn school. You can find out more on this by contacting Pat Parks @ CA Med Board

NM-Will accept graduates of schools approved by CA medical board

and on and on and on...

Check out the IMG forum for more info in addition to the above links.

Good Luck!

 

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by Global Disrobal
They do have requirements but those are for graduates on Non-LCME institutions.

"They" being whom?

And this is for the US/Canadian grads - indicating a family medicine unit is required.

 

[docB]

I can tell you all that when I matched to a CA residency from a Philly med school the program made me provide a letter from my med school defining the Fam Prac rotation that I had done to make sure that I could be licensed in CA. CA definitely has a requirement that the applicant had a Fam Prac rotation in med school. Another thing I can tell you about the CA licensing board, they are not reasonable and they don't make exceptions.

 

[Global Disrobal]

By "They" I was referring to FMG's. Although there are certain rules for US/CAN grads (very few at that), the majority of the rules are generally intended for FMG's since the curriculum and quality of education can vary.

I ditto DocB in that CA Med Board is anything but flexible.

 

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by Global Disrobal
By "They" I was referring to FMG's. Although there are certain rules for US/CAN grads (very few at that), the majority of the rules are generally intended for FMG's since the curriculum and quality of education can vary.

I don't know about that - from what I've seen and read in the green book, the rules apply to everyone; some states have more for FMG's, but there is no 'blank check' for LCME grads.

Educational quality can (and does) differ at LCME schools; a case in point is the new clinical skills section of Step II.

 

[edmadison]

O.K., I'm not totally sure about this but if you look at the California Business and Professions Code Section 2089 and 2089.5, there are certain requirements for various subject areas but there doesn't seem to be a requirement that it be done as a clerkship. Thus you could get lectures on the various subjects. I could be misinterpreting, though.

Ed

 

[prominence]

i will be an IMG (Carribean med school grad). If any other IMGs know the requirements for the states above, I would appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[mtross]

Just make sure all of your rotations are green booked and you won't have any problems. It is true that certain states like Texas and even penn have some pretty pathetic rules with regards to doing rotations in their state. If you have an specific states that you really want to look into, then just go to there medical board websites and the info is there. Overall, most just require having so many weeks green booked. hope that helps.

 

[DocWagner]

Appyllon or whatever,

Calm down missy. Quite honestly, when I filled out the state licensure with FCVS it was quite easy. It is true not all states use the service, but many accept it, see here http://www.physicianlicensing.com/FCVS Map.htm

all of these state will accept it...making the process easier for the resident. So while in CA it isn't mandatory, it is accepted and helpful. (perhaps you should've researched the issue)

I wouldn't worry about licensure, other than money, and paperwork, if you were a US grad, there won't be much difficulty.

To use FCVS, you pay them to gather ALL of your information, including contacting your school, state licensing board, and sending all of your information to each board in every state you wish to apply. Example: if I had applied to Ohio, CA, and Texas, I fill out a single FCVS computer application, they contacted my school, gather the data (including diploma from my school) and send it to every state medical board I wish. I then fill out the additional state information from each board (really easy) and pay the fees.
While it does take some time and money, it is very easy.

 

[Apollyon]

Originally posted by DocWagner
Calm down missy. (perhaps you should've researched the issue)

Good job, "missy". You're a class act.

I did research the issue. That's "where in the WORLD" I heard it. You need to calm down.

 

[DocWagner]

Wow, apparently you DIDN'T research the question...did you go to the link I posted? I have already gone through the process, and since FCVS is accepted in nearly all 50 states, I thought it may ease the process a bit.

Don't be so uptight...jeez.