State Recidency

[victoryXfailure]

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Is I have a very complicated issue. I technically don't know what state to pull residency in. And I know you must be asking what are you talking about?! Hear me out. I grew up going back and forth in NY and PA. I have bank cards and credit cards for my addresses in both states. Not to mention a learner's permit and a driver's license and still get called for jury duty in both. My mom has claimed me a dependent on her tax returns for the last 21 years in PA (has filed taxes this year yet), yet because I went to grade school and high school in NYC I never qualified for PA state financial aid my four years in college in Philadelphia because the state considered me to not be a resident. Yet somehow I still qualify for TAP (NY state aid). So now I am debating which state to file my taxes in because which state would I benefit more from being in state?

 

[Ismet]

Probably NY. None of the PA schools have a huge in-state bias. Temple and Penn State do have a large number of in-staters, but that's not a large proportion compared to state schools in some other states where you have minimal chance as an OOS. You would still have a great chance at PA schools as a NY resident. PA doesn't have a public med school so the difference in tuition between IS/OOS is not too significant. The schools are also pretty expensive. From what I understand, there's a pretty big difference in price between IS and OOS for SUNY med schools.

Edit: I think the main difference is cost, not necessarily a big difference in your chances of admission.

 

[gyngyn]

31.6% of PA residents matriculate IS. 29% of NY residents do. If you look at median acceptance metrics from schools in the two states you might find a reason to declare one over the other, though.

 

[victoryXfailure]

31.6% of PA residents matriculate IS. 29% of NY residents do. If you look at median acceptance metrics from schools in the two states you might find a reason to declare one over the other, though.

Yeah I was trying to weigh this versus the lower tuition cost for NY when you are in state. But, at the same time NY has more state schools. While every school in PA is basically private even if their undergrad is considered public. -cough-Temple-cough- I think I am going to go back at staring at numbers again.

 

[WingedOx]

Probably NY. None of the PA schools have a huge in-state bias. Temple and Penn State do have a large number of in-staters, but that's not a large proportion compared to state schools in some other states where you have minimal chance as an OOS. You would still have a great chance at PA schools as a NY resident. PA doesn't have a public med school so the difference in tuition between IS/OOS is not too significant. The schools are also pretty expensive. From what I understand, there's a pretty big difference in price between IS and OOS for SUNY med schools.

Edit: I think the main difference is cost, not necessarily a big difference in your chances of admission.

I lived in the state for 4 years, and I still have trouble wrapping my head around the concept that people don't consider Temple, Pitt, and Penn State "public."

 

[Ismet]

I lived in the state for 4 years, and I still have trouble wrapping my head around the concept that people don't consider Temple, Pitt, and Penn State not being "public."

"State-related" apparently.

I've lived here for 25 years and I still don't understand.

 

[victoryXfailure]

"State-related" apparently.

I've lived here for 25 years and I still don't understand.

Penn State undergrade is considered public. Temple is quasi and has only remained so because they wanted to keep state funding for their hospital. The board has tried to go private for awhile now. And apparently are trying to move to becoming completely private in the next five years right now for sure. Well technically only 4/4.5 now. Along with their implementing Fly in 4 contract (Uh, why could they have not offered this when i was still there?!)

But, all their medical schools are listed everywhere as private. I thought they were public to until everywhere told me I was wrong and I confirmed with MSAR that they are listed as private.

 

[Ismet]

Penn State undergrade is considered public. Temple is quasi and has only remained so because they wanted to keep state funding for their hospital. The board has tried to go private for awhile now. And apparently are trying to move to becoming completely private in the next five years right now for sure. Well technically only 4/4.5 now. Along with their implementing Fly in 4 contract (Uh, why could they have not offered this when i was still there?!)

But, all their medical schools are listed everywhere as private. I thought they were public to until everywhere told me I was wrong and I confirmed with MSAR that they are listed as private.

Yeah I was referring to the med schools.

Pitt (and I believe Penn State and Temple) are considered "state-related" and thus theoretically are neither entirely public nor private. They are mainly private but receive some state funding. But for all intents and purposes, they're private.

It's a weird state.

 

[victoryXfailure]

Yeah I was referring to the med schools.

Pitt (and I believe Penn State and Temple) are considered "state-related" and thus theoretically are neither entirely public nor private. They are mainly private but receive some state funding. But for all intents and purposes, they're private.

It's a weird state.

I agree overall the state is weird, but I still love it. And it is as much home to me as New York is.

I do have my eyes set on more PA schools than NY schools. I probably would choose only one NY school over the Philly schools. Maybe that is my answer and I should just have my residency as PA.

 

[Snakes]

How do you hold drivers' licenses in two different states? Where do you actually live??

 

[victoryXfailure]

How do you hold drivers' licenses in two different states? Where do you actually live??

I don't know, but they didn't question it. I actually had a permit in both states at the same time. And they said nothing about it. And then got my driver's license in the one that was more convent and easier to pass at the time aka Philly, because getting NYC loves to fail everyone. Haha. And I have two credit cards one has NY listed the other PA, same with my two bank accounts.

And I actually live in both? My issue is a grew up going back and forth between both. Live during the week in state X and then weekends spent in state Y, then the reverse of that for years. Then it switch again. Because my mom was in PA for work when I was younger I was shipped off to my grandparents in NY and went to school there. Then my mom ended up with a job in NY and I ended up back in PA for school. Which is why I have addresses in both state and I list them both as my current address for all background check forms because I am in both places so often. I am the screwed up child that doesn't know where to call home.

 

[Snakes]

I don't know, but they didn't question it. I actually had a permit in both states at the same time. And they said nothing about it. And then got my driver's license in the one that was more convent and easier to pass at the time aka Philly, because getting NYC loves to fail everyone. Haha. And I have two credit cards one has NY listed the other PA, same with my two bank accounts.

And I actually live in both? My issue is a grew up going back and forth between both. Live during the week in state X and then weekends spent in state Y, then the reverse of that for years. Then it switch again. Because my mom was in PA for work when I was younger I was shipped off to my grandparents in NY and went to school there. Then my mom ended up with a job in NY and I ended up back in PA for school. Which is why I have addresses in both state and I list them both as my current address for all background check forms because I am in both places so often. I am the screwed up child that doesn't know where to call home.

You can only be a legal resident in one state. It's generally illegal to hold driver's licenses in two different states, and when you apply for a driver's license, they ask if you hold a license in any other state, which you are required to surrender before you are issued one in the state you are applying in.

The credit cards don't matter. Where is your car registered? Where do you hold your voter's registration card? Are you currently a student in PA?

You should pull the proof of residency requirements for NY and PA. Most states require 1 to 2 years worth of documents and look especially to taxes, physical residence (where you live the majority of the time), voter ID registration, vehicle registration, vehicle insurance, etc. to determine if you are a state-resident. If PA did not consider you a resident while you were there for college, it is unlikely they will consider you to be one for medical school status.

And you should probably do something about the two licenses. If you had a traffic stop it's possible both would show up when they run your name, and then you might have a bigger problem.

These questions are very state-specific and you should look into the requirements for both. You are definitely a resident of one of them, but only one.

 

[victoryXfailure]

You can only be a legal resident in one state. It's generally illegal to hold driver's licenses in two different states, and when you apply for a driver's license, they ask if you hold a license in any other state, which you are required to surrender before you are issued one in the state you are applying in.

The credit cards don't matter. Where is your car registered? Where do you hold your voter's registration card? Are you currently a student in PA?

You should pull the proof of residency requirements for NY and PA. Most states require 1 to 2 years worth of documents and look especially to taxes, physical residence (where you live the majority of the time), voter ID registration, vehicle registration, vehicle insurance, etc. to determine if you are a state-resident. If PA did not consider you a resident while you were there for college, it is unlikely they will consider you to be one for medical school status.

And you should probably do something about the two licenses. If you had a traffic stop it's possible both would show up when they run your name, and then you might have a bigger problem.

These questions are very state-specific and you should look into the requirements for both. You are definitely a resident of one of them, but only one.

I have no car and haven't bothered to vote because of this. I was considered in state for state tuition in both states. I paid instate tuition for college in PA they just said I didn't meet the qualifications for PHEAA state aid only. And I am not in NJ for graduate school.

 

[Snakes]

Here's a good guide to proof of domicile in Pennsylvania (this is for Temple's med school but probably applies to all "in-state" Pennsylvania med schools).

http://www.temple.edu/registrar/doc...sylvaniaResidencyGuidelinesandApplication.pdf

If you google the NY schools you are interested in for their proof of domicile requirements, that should give you a good idea. A lot of it depends on your age and whether you are considered a dependent of someone and where they live. Good luck!!