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STATE schools that take a decent amount of OOSers?

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  1. 229141

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    I'm just going through some sites trying to figure out where I should apply to. I'm an Alaskan resident so theres the WWAMI program, but other than that I'm not sure where to apply to. A lot of my friends applied strictly to schools like Cornell, Tufts, Dartmouth, Harvard, Standford, etc claiming they have the best chances there since state schools "don't accept out of staters". I just want to get in somewhere..and I have a very hard time believing that applying to top tier private schools is easier than getting into some of the state schools that are kind to OOSer's..I'm just having trouble figuring out where I should apply to! Thanks!
     
  2. DrYoda

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    Ohio schools have a reputation of being very OOS friendly. You can even gain resident status for tuition purposes after the first year.
     
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    Thats good news- I was hoping Ohio State took a good amount of OOSers. I was also looking at schools like Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana, Vermont, Nevada (friendly to AK's), Oklahoma, Minnesota, etc. I think the key is diversifying my applications so I have both state schools and some lower tier private schools such as Vandy
     
  4. funkydrmonkey

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    What have you been smoking??? Vandy has never been a lower tier private school!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Vanderbilt is lower tier???
     
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    Yeah bro that place sucks...it's not even HYP. :laugh:

    ...

    But to answer your question seriously...Virginia schools are pretty friendly to OOSers (EVMS, VCU, UVA). Be careful what you say on SDN...comments like that one will get you FLAMED
     
  7. GoSpursGo

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    Oh man... LET's gonna break out the banhammer :D
     
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    Cincinnati takes about 35% OOSers.
     
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    Nebraska and Arkansas are not OOS friendly unless you have strong ties to the states or super high scores. Arkansas takes 160 students and ~130-135 are IS. State legislation says they have to accept this many each year split evenly between the four legislative districsts. Nebraska sends secondaries after determining ties to the state or strong scores and they still want students from Nebraska. I didn't get a secondary from Nebraska until at the middle of September after being verified in the beginning of August. The only reason I got a secondary was because I graduated high school in Nebraska. Arkansas sends secondaries to everyone.
     
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    Stay away from the west coast...CA, OR, WA, bigtime longshots for oos (in-state is hard enough!!)

    Edit: Wow, I just read your post again and saw you were from Alaska...oopsies

    You still have it pretty tough in CA though.
     
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    Sorry for the confusion- I was referring to the fact Vandy is a bit cheaper than Dartmouth, Yale, Harvard, etc
     
  12. GoSpursGo

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    Hmmm yes, every school that's not on Harvard's level is clearly lower-tier :laugh:

    ... Oh noes, is Baylor lower-tier as well? :eek::eek::eek:
     
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    PSU, I believe, isn't too OOS unfriendly. They definitely aren't giving IS tuition a good name.
     
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    yes, spurs, i'm sorry to inform you it is. when you interview for residencies, going to baylor will be a major red flag on your application :laugh: it won't cut it for many of the residencies
     
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    :( Maybe I'll be able to scrape out an IM or FP residency somewhere in Montana or something...
     
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    Not too bad when after 4 years all your loans will be repaid.
     
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    I agree with the california state schools being hard for OOS. But actually since he has the WWAMI it would be good to apply to UW. Also OHSU is one of the most friendly PUBLIC state schools in the country. 1/3 are oos.
     
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    Penn state, ohio schools, Va schools, NY schools, Iowa?? maybe, maryland possibly...

    btw vandy isnt low tier, haha...its actually ranked much higher than tufts and dartmouth.
     
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    Good point, and tons of power to anyone who wants to do those residencies. Who knows, maybe I'll wind up deciding that's a sound financial decision for me someday down the road if I want to go into FP or IM. However, I think that everyone would like to think at least going into med school that they will have some options beyond the least competitive residencies when they get done.
     
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    South Alabama was friendly to me. I didn't hear anything from Arkansas (was complete in July), so I dropped them last week.
     
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    I think the University of Michigan is about 50% out of state. But it is also a "top tier" school, as are, of course, other state schools such as UCSF, U of Washington etc etc, so these may not be the schools that the OP is asking about in his post.
     
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    Do it LET! ;)
     
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    Alas, I do not possess such mighty powers.


    However, I will give you my angriest mod faces. Hmph, Vandy lower tier! Imagine that!
    :mad:+pissed+:wow::poke::annoyed::nono::sendoff:
     
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    Ahhhhh!! I regret ever saying it like that. I love Nashville and Vandy is my dream school. Haha I deserved to be flamed for calling it lower tier :D
     
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    To reword my original question...I'm basically asking, as a resident of Alaska, what schools I should apply to if my goal is to get into any U.S. MD school. I'm not trying to aim low but I just want to apply at places that I have a reasonable shot at as an OOSer. I know that WWAMI takes 20 AK students a year to UW, but honestly about 16-17 of those students attend college out of Alaska...so in reality we only have 2-3 students getting into WWAMI from the Univ of Alaska system : \
     
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    Penn State for sure. Nearly half of the students are OOS.

    Maryland is roughly 80% IS/20% OOS. Better ratio than some, but still not great. They tend to favor OOS students from neighboring-ish states.
     
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    iowa seems pretty friendly, typically 30% oos
     
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    All the heckling aside, this thread's original question is a good one and a helpful one. I'm from Cali, and I don't even really want to apply to CA schools. The CA attitude is sometimes so competitive it sucks the life out you!
     
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    University of Illinois takes about 22% OOS.
     
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    Yeah I bet! Its tough for Alaska too...seems like we get maybe 1-2 students into medical a year from Univ Alaska, so the competition is intense here too. Cali is on another level though! LOL
     
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    Ohio and New York come to mind. I'm from Arkansas, and I don't think you should even bother with UAMS; it's not really a OOS-friendly school (<20% OOS I think).
     
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    MSAR Data on % OOS for all schools: (sorry for the funky formatting)

    School name State private? %OOS
    U of Alabama AL pub 10.80
    U of S. Alabama AL pub 10.81
    U of Arizona AZ pub 1.49
    U of Arkansas AR pub 16.77
    USC CA pri 26.83
    Loma Linda CA pri 43.02
    Stanford CA pri 55.81
    UC Davis CA pub 1.90
    UC Irvine CA pub 2.88
    UCLA CA pub 12.43
    UCSD CA pub 8.21
    UCSF CA pub 20.86
    U of Colorado CO pub 19.75
    U of Connecticut CT pub 11.11
    Yale CT pri 75.00
    GWU DC pri 94.92
    Georgetown DC pri 92.63
    Howard DC pri 88.46
    U of Central Florida FL pub #VALUE!
    Florida International FL pub #VALUE!
    U of Florida FL pub 3.79
    Florida State FL pub 0.00
    U of Miami FL pri 29.55
    U of S. Florida FL pub 9.17
    Emory GA pri 65.38
    MC Georgia GA pub 3.16
    Mercer GA pri 0.00
    Morehouse GA pri 38.46
    U of Hawai'i HI pub 19.35
    Rosalind Franklin IL pri 53.68
    Loyola IL pri 52.05
    Northwestern IL pri 71.60
    Rush IL pri 16.41
    S. Illinois IL pub 0.00
    U of Chicago IL pri 68.75
    U of Illinois IL pub 22.15
    Indiana U IN pub 13.27
    U of Iowa IA pub 33.11
    U of Kansas KS pub 13.07
    U of Kentucky KY pub 21.36
    U of Louisville KY pub 19.59
    LSU New Orleans LA pub 5.03
    LSU Shreveport LA pub 0.00
    Tulane LA pri 78.29
    Johns Hopkins MD pri 77.12
    USUHS MD pub 90.75
    U of Maryland MD pub 18.75
    Boston MA pri 70.83
    Harvard MA pri 80.00
    Tufts MA pri 68.79
    U of Massachusetts MA pub 1.94
    Michigan State MI pub 34.62
    U of Michigan MI pub 54.71
    Wayne State MI pub 8.61
    Mayo MN pri 64.29
    U of Minnesota MN pub 15.77
    U of Mississippi MS pub 0.00
    St. Louis U MO pri 80.45
    U of Missouri Columbia MO pub 5.21
    U of Missouri KC MO pub 42.55
    Washington U MO pri 89.34
    Creighton NE pri 88.10
    U of Nebraska NE pub 16.81
    U of Nevada NV pub 17.74
    Dartmouth NH pri 76.71
    UMDNJ-NJMS NJ pub 8.43
    UMDNJ-RWJMS NJ pub 14.46
    U of New Mexico NM pub 4.00
    Albany NY pri 59.72
    Einstein NY pri 53.80
    Columbia NY pri 64.52
    Cornell NY pri 63.37
    Mt. Sinai NY pri 60.99
    NYMC NY pri 73.33
    NYU NY pri 56.25
    U at Buffalo NY pub 17.78
    SUNY Downstate NY pub 14.71
    SUNY Upstate NY pub 26.88
    Stony Brook NY pub 12.07
    U of Rochester NY pri 54.46
    East Carolina NC pub 0.00
    Duke NC pri 80.00
    U of N. Carolina NC pub 15.53
    Wake Forest NC pri 58.33
    U of N. Dakota ND pub 30.65
    Case Western OH pri 74.05
    U of Toledo OH pub 35.76
    Northeastern Ohio OH pub 1.65
    Ohio State OH pub 48.10
    U of Cincinnati OH pub 24.22
    Wright State OH pub 8.00
    U of Oklahoma OK pub 12.20
    OHSU OR pub 31.36
    Drexel PA pri 66.90
    Jefferson PA pri 62.55
    Penn State PA pub 52.60
    Temple PA pri 56.74
    U of Pennsylvania PA pri 72.55
    U of Pittsburgh PA pri 66.44
    Ponce PR pri 38.10
    San Juan Bautista PR pri 15.00
    U Central del Caribe PR pri 22.73
    U of Puerto Rico PR pub 2.86
    Brown RI pri 90.53
    MUSC SC pub 8.86
    U of S. Carolina SC pub 20.24
    U of S. Dakota SD pub 7.41
    E. Tennessee State TN pub 11.67
    Meharry TN pri 89.58
    U of Tennessee TN pub 4.67
    Vanderbilt TN pri 72.38
    Baylor TX pri 23.26
    Texas A&M TX pub 7.62
    Texas Tech Lubbock TX pub 6.43
    Texas Tech El Paso TX pub #VALUE!
    UTMB TX pub 3.96
    UT Houston TX pub 3.91
    UT San Antonio TX pub 10.00
    UT Southwestern TX pub 13.70
    U of Utah UT pub 24.51
    U of Vermont VT pub 64.29
    EVMS VA pri 33.04
    U of Virginia VA pub 41.26
    Virginia Commonwealth VA pub 43.48
    U of Washington WA pub 7.85
    Marshall WV pub 29.17
    W. Virginia WV pub 24.07
    MC Wisconsin WI pri 58.33
    U of Wisconsin WI pub 20.65
     

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