STEP 1 scores (compilation...please help)

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Case Western: 229(last 3 years mean;Source:school brochure for 2009)
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Temple: ~215ish
UChicago: 217
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237 (2007), 247 (2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
UChicago: 217
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237 (2007), 247 (2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
Is that 247 average for Vandy in 2009 real? That seems impossibly high for an average.
 
avo said:
Is that 247 average for Vandy in 2009 real? That seems impossibly high for an average.
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I think it would be nice if LET could come back and report the average now that they assuredly have 100% of the results (that was when they had 75% of the results, and maybe the 25% who felt they had to keep putting it off brought it down slightly), but considering the source I'd buy it was for real at the time. Even so, I doubt that last 25% would bring it down THAT much; I guess it was a good year at Vandy 🙂
 
I can second the 247 Vandy average with 75% of scores in. That was straight from a Dean in a formal setting. Don't know what the final average was though. This was up from 240 I believe the year before.
 
Huh, just realized that Baylor got cut off at some point:

Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
UChicago: 217
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237 (2007), 247 (2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
Anyone have Tufts, Stonybrook, Temple, Drexel, etc.?
 
drangocar said:
I can second the 247 Vandy average with 75% of scores in. That was straight from a Dean in a formal setting. Don't know what the final average was though. This was up from 240 I believe the year before.
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that's similar to what i was told when down there
 
Correcting UChicago ... wayyyyy wrong ... we were at 236.2 straight from the dean.


Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
Uchicago: 236.2 (2009)
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237 (2007), 247 (2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
Uchicago: 236.2 (2009)
University of Cincinnati- 233
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237 (2007), 247 (2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
wow...pitt's score is lower than i expected

what are these averages supposed to mean anyways....😕
 
TexasDoc2388 said:
Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
Uchicago: 236.2 (2009)
University of Cincinnati- 233
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237 (2007), 247 (2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
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These scores are pretty much bull****. Vandy did not have a 247. That is 90th percentile nationally, as an average. I'm not a betting man, but if I were I'd put my money on that it was in the 230s.
 
Instatewaiter said:
These scores are pretty much bull****. Vandy did not have a 247. That is 90th percentile nationally, as an average. I'm not a betting man, but if I were I'd put my money on that it was in the 230s.
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I agree with you. I don't trust these reported scores either. And, yes, there is no way that Vandy averaged 247. I like Vandy, but 247 is absurd. It was nice to see the University of Chicago make that jump from 217 to 236, not that I ever believed that Chicago averaged 217.
 
Based off this post (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=9291991#post9291991), it looks like the Vanderbilt 247 was with 25% unreported. I'm just going to go ahead and change it so people can stop talking about it

I also added Michigan's.

Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
Uchicago: 236.2 (2009)
University of Cincinnati- 233
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235, 237 (2008)
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237, 240, 243 (2007, 2008, 2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
I added Toledo 🙂


Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
Uchicago: 236.2 (2009)
University of Cincinnati- 233
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235, 237 (2008)
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
University of Toledo: 217
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237, 240, 243 (2007, 2008, 2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
Indiana University: 222----->I spoke with the program director himself, and he told me last year's average being 217. The only thing about IU is, it's very inbred...
 
Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
Penn State: 227, 97% pass (2009)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
Uchicago: 236.2 (2009)
University of Cincinnati- 233
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235, 237 (2008)
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
University of Toledo: 217
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237, 240, 243 (2007, 2008, 2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
As an advice to college kids applying to medical school and the issue of "judging" schools, make sure that you're not putting too much weight on these numbers.

More often than not, these numbers are a result of wonderful students that work hard. Certain schools with higher averages like Penn, UVA, Vandy, UChicago, BCM, Mayo, are results of a great student body while those from schools that may not have as high an average is NOT due to a poor teaching faculty but perhaps from a student body on an average, do not work as hard. All medical students work hard...but medicine is about how much harder are you willing to work? 12, 14, 16hr/day? You don't have to be brilliant to be in medicine, you just have to work harder than the next joe schmo.

This being said, you have just a good of a chance of getting a 200 in a school with an AVERAGE of 230 as you do with a school with an AVERAGE of 211. You also have just a good chance of getting a 260 in a school with an AVERAGE of 211 as you do in a school with an AVERAGE of 230. These are all averages and you can fall anywhere in the spectrum. It's entirely dependent on you as the student.

Many posters from the Carribean have hit 240's+ on their Step 1 and if you think their teaching and facilities are nearly as good as most of the schools in the US, then think again. They work hard for that number.

I personally would like to know the average of OK State School of Healthscience (DO) where Edward Goljan (Path God) teaches.
 
vicinihil said:
As an advice to college kids applying to medical school and the issue of "judging" schools, make sure that you're not putting too much weight on these numbers.

More often than not, these numbers are a result of wonderful students that work hard. Certain schools with higher averages like Penn, UVA, Vandy, UChicago, BCM, Mayo, are results of a great student body while those from schools that may not have as high an average is NOT due to a poor teaching faculty but perhaps from a student body on an average, do not work as hard. All medical students work hard...but medicine is about how much harder are you willing to work? 12, 14, 16hr/day? You don't have to be brilliant to be in medicine, you just have to work harder than the next joe schmo.

This being said, you have just a good of a chance of getting a 200 in a school with an AVERAGE of 230 as you do with a school with an AVERAGE of 211. You also have just a good chance of getting a 260 in a school with an AVERAGE of 211 as you do in a school with an AVERAGE of 230. These are all averages and you can fall anywhere in the spectrum. It's entirely dependent on you as the student.

Many posters from the Carribean have hit 240's+ on their Step 1 and if you think their teaching and facilities are nearly as good as most of the schools in the US, then think again. They work hard for that number.

I personally would like to know the average of OK State School of Healthscience (DO) where Edward Goljan (Path God) teaches.
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I agree with this. Going to a school with a higher average may not determine what your step 1 score will be, but it indicates the people you may be surrounded by.

No matter where you go I believe you earn your own step 1 score.
 
Statistically speaking...

The variance in scores between schools is clearly very low. I doubt that any schools are really exceeding the mid 230's, and even the weakest schools are probably averaging around 210.

The variance in scores within schools is very high. Most schools have people who fail, ie. score < 180. Most schools have people who score above 260.

If you were doing an epidemiological study, the conclusion would be that the schools have a minimal influence on USMLE score, as the sources of variance must be elsewhere.
 
gman33 said:
Almost all the schools in that list have scores above the national average.
I'm no genius, but that's not really possible.
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Much like the average MCAT on SDN is 38.25, schools with higher numbers tend to advertise their numbers more often. Schools with lower numbers tend not to report them.
 
I love this thread. It makes me want to quit my medical school (225 avg) so I can attend one where I'm all but guaranteed to make a 245. I mean, scores can't reflect an individuals effort and dedication, can they?
 
gotta take sample size into consideration, some schools like mayo have tiny classes, and if they all score well, its gonna be super high
 
Interviewed at OHSU and asked this question. they said that the average scrores were "just around the national average or maybe a little better"
 
IvanBiley said:
Interviewed at OHSU and asked this question. they said that the average scrores were "just around the national average or maybe a little better"
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They told our group it was a little below and then went on and on about how they don't teach to the boards...
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+1 to whoever says these self-reported averages mean nothing... Although they are fun to look at.
 
When will the newest list of scores be available?
 
fahimaz7 said:
I love this thread. It makes me want to quit my medical school (225 avg) so I can attend one where I'm all but guaranteed to make a 245. I mean, scores can't reflect an individuals effort and dedication, can they?
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Word to your mommy, Corleone. 14 -20 people at Ross scored >250 just last year. I don't care what the average is, I want to know what the highest scores are in the last 5 years.
 
Your boards scores correlate to how much you can cram and study for in 4 weeks not to how well the school's curriculum is. It's on you to study this stuff.
 
getdown said:
Your boards scores correlate to how much you can cram and study for in 4 weeks not to how well the school's curriculum is. It's on you to study this stuff.
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YES, how much you study will plays a huge part on how you will score, but the curriculum/school can be a huge, and potentially larger, factor: case in point, USC did not all of a sudden choose to accept smarter people when their scores jumped from around 220 to the current mean of 235 (2009). The curriculum was completely revamped, 3 months is given to study for boards during which there is an integrated cases system, cumulative exams at the end of year 1 and 2 force you to re-study the material, all exams are computerized to get you used to this style of computer test-taking, 5-10 NBME questions put on system exams, practice NBME exams are taken in April, etc. etc. etc.

I completely agree that board scores should NOT be used to determine which school to choose, and obviously don't make you a better doctor. But the sad reality is that this score greatly affects your ability to match in the specialty/location you desire, and this fact is backed by the AAMC Charting Outcomes publication.
 
Anyone know Einstein"s?
 
jackson1 said:
Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
Penn State: 227, 97% pass (2009)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
Uchicago: 236.2 (2009)
University of Cincinnati- 233
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235, 237 (2008)
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 236 (SD = 18)
University of Toledo: 217
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237, 240, 243 (2007, 2008, 2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
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http://www.med-ed.virginia.edu/handbook/pdf/usmle1-10.pdf
 
Kuuaku said:
YES, how much you study will plays a huge part on how you will score, but the curriculum/school can be a huge, and potentially larger, factor: case in point, USC did not all of a sudden choose to accept smarter people when their scores jumped from around 220 to the current mean of 235 (2009). The curriculum was completely revamped, 3 months is given to study for boards during which there is an integrated cases system, cumulative exams at the end of year 1 and 2 force you to re-study the material, all exams are computerized to get you used to this style of computer test-taking, 5-10 NBME questions put on system exams, practice NBME exams are taken in April, etc. etc. etc.

I completely agree that board scores should NOT be used to determine which school to choose, and obviously don't make you a better doctor. But the sad reality is that this score greatly affects your ability to match in the specialty/location you desire, and this fact is backed by the AAMC Charting Outcomes publication.
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Agreed. More schools need a system like this instead of being proud that they "don't teach to the boards". We are paying so much money to attend med school, so the least they could do is to do everything possible to enable students to maximize scores, since it plays such a large role in our post-grad options.
 
patel2 said:
Agreed. More schools need a system like this instead of being proud that they "don't teach to the boards". We are paying so much money to attend med school, so the least they could do is to do everything possible to enable students to maximize scores, since it plays such a large role in our post-grad options.
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So the school's without years next to the reported average scores could be from 2004 or earlier. Just as MCAT scores have increased at the top schools over the years, I'm betting that when comparing these schools you really have to take the year reported into account.

Not that I'm biased because I'm likely attending 😀, but Pitt's 227 was put on this thread back in 2004 with no attached date and has never been changed. I would bet it is in the 230's now like its peer institutions.
 
gravitywave said:
i've never seen a school just throw their Step results up on the Internets that way.... looks legit tho. pretty impressive stuff.
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Yea, that's a nice average.

Though I must say, the SD on the USMLE itself is pretty large...


So a few points here and there for the average doesn't seem like a huge deal....(e.g, I wouldn't even pay attention to 220 vs. 226).
 
I was going to add "2004 or earlier" to all the schools in the first post back in 2004 that either never had an attached date or were never later updated with a date or newer average score. It appears Pitt is the only one that fits this criteria though.

Baylor: 239, 235 (2009, ?) - Info from BCM website
Cleveland Clinic 229 (100% pass rate)
Columbia University: 228, 231, 229 (2003, 2002, 2001)
Dartmouth: 236 (2009)
Drexel: 220 (2005)
Duke: 236
Georgetown: 227
Indiana University: 222
Jefferson: 221 (2005)
Mayo Medical School: 240, 238, 236, 234, 230 (2007, 2006, 2003, 2002, 2001)
Mount Sinai: 234
Northwestern: 233, 230 (2003, 2002)
NYMC: 223 (2009)
NYU: Average Step 1 Score in 2008: 238 (Info from Student doctor Wiki on NYU)
Penn State: 227, 97% pass (2009)
SUNY Upstate: 222 Exactly the national average (2008)
Texas Tech at Lubbock: 231 (2009)
Temple: ~215ish
Uchicago: 236.2 (2009)
University of Cincinnati- 233
UConn: Step 1=219, Step 2=230
UMDNJ-NJMS: 220 (2002) - new curriculum now dont know more recent one
UMDNJ-RWJ: 221 (2002), 232 (2008)
University of Miami (Miami Campus)- 229
University of Miami (Boca Campus)- 234
University of Florida: 234, 227 (2005, 2004)
University of Iowa: 223 (2002)
UIC-Chicago 221 (2008, for c/o 2010, 99% pass)
University of Michigan: 235, 237 (2008)
University of Pennsylvania: 238, 236, 234, 236, 235 (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003,2002)
University of Pittsburg: 227 (2004 or earlier)
University of Southern California: 233 (2007)
USouthFlorida:~220
University of Virginia: 233 (SD = 17)
University of Toledo: 217
UT Houston: 232, 220 (2009, 2006)
UTMB: 226 (2008)
UTSW: 233, 233, 230 (2008, 2007, 2006)
Vanderbilt: 237, 240, 243 (2007, 2008, 2009)
VCU: 225
UWash: ~215ish
Wake Forest: 219
WashU: 235
 
You know this is just going to track MCAT averages for these schools right?
 
Georgetown's class of 2012 average was a 232 after close to 90% of the class received it's score. That was before my score so it may be higher ;-)
 
I'm not sure how this thread would help you to see where to go for med school.

UVM takes step 1 during 2 yr before it's over.
Duke takes step 1 after 3rd clinical rotations.

Some schools do not include people who failed step 1 in the analysis. And you don't know how many failed. Some schools make sure those who are going to fail not to take them and make them take one year off. In any case, the numbers can be misleading.

I suppose you could just screen out the schools with low scores...
 
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