Stony Brook vs. NYU

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I got into these schools. Money is not really a factor for me.

My parents discarded Stony Brook immediately because it is a state school.

What do you guys think is a better school?

I want to be a clinician when I graduate.
 
MrZ123 said:
I got into these schools. Money is not really a factor for me.

My parents discarded Stony Brook immediately because it is a state school.

What do you guys think is a better school?

I want to be a clinician when I graduate.
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Arent you a New York state resident? How does that make sense,then?
 
Stony Brook is a fantastic school with a well-established record of clinical excellence.

NYU has a smeared past but is working feverishly (with great success) to put its past in the past and build its reputation as a leader of dental education.

And props to you (or your dad) for making money a non-issue -- whatever your reason. Choose the school for you -- both very different programs.
 
Well, right now, Stony Brook attracts better qualified candidates--b/c its relatively inexpensive. But having lived in NY forever, and having applied numerous times to Stony for undergrad and grad, it's not a bad school--but it's in an awfully bad location. Place gets totally quiet during the weekend b/c everyone is desperate to leave.

NYU is in a very good location. It's relatively expensive and thus it steers away many students. But its facilities are much better and it's in the heart of NYC. NYU's patient population is also infinitely better than Stony's.
 
amsie said:
Arent you a New York state resident? How does that make sense,then?
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Amsie is right...What is going on here??

Secondly...STONY BROOK FOR SURE!!!! One of the best schools in the Nation..HANDS DOWN! From what I remember it is top 3 clinical in the nation...and probably 1/5 the price...plus 1/7 the class size....good luck
 
Stony is an awesome school and I'd go there before I went to NYU, location or not. And then I'd take the 250K that I saved and use it as a down payment on a trump condo. I'd rather be one of 40 vs one of 350.
 
They discarded it because state schools generally do not have as good reps as private schools.

Also, my dad heard from a colegue (he is a dentist) that NYU grads are better clinicians than Stony grads.
 
MrZ123 said:
They discarded it because state schools generally do not have as good reps as private schools.

Also, my dad heard from a colegue (he is a dentist) that NYU grads are better clinicians than Stony grads.
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Well, if you want to be a good clinicial then prestige doesn't really matter, does it? This is the last stop on the educational highway so there is no one left to impress with name.
 
Speaking of state schools, how'd your Buffalo interview go, Z? Was it worth the trip?

And as far as the "state-school" stereotype, ask your dad what he thinks of UCLA, UCSF, UW, Oregon, Nebraska, or UConn. Not telling you where to go, but your parents are making a grossly misinformed generalization.
 
Mackchops said:
Speaking of state schools, how'd your Buffalo interview go, Z? Was it worth the trip?

And as far as the "state-school" stereotype, ask your dad what he thinks of UCLA, UCSF, UW, Oregon, Nebraska, or UConn. Not telling you where to go, but your parents are making a grossly misinformed generalization.
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Buffalo interview went well. They said I should get a letter in about a week saying if I got accepted or not... The school is not bad, the people are awesome, the location sucks. I don't think I would go there, but it was worth the trip.

I told my parents they need to do more research about the schools as well. As I said, my dad is a dentist, he went to NYU, and he said his friend who has a practice on Long Island said that NYU grads are better clinicians.
 
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Amsie, first off, I sent you a bunch of PMs and you haven't replied, get on that...

Second, I am talking reputation among older dentists and normal street folk, who only know about dental school through word of mouth.

They hear NYU and they get a better impression than when they hear Stony Brook.
 
NYU's patient pool is much better than StonyBrook's. But Stony Brook currently has a better reputation than NYU. But it wasn't always this way. Years ago, Stony was dead last in terms of reputation and NYU was the place to go, even over Columbia (according to some of the old dentists I spoke to).

The general population, discounting dentists, still has the perception that NYUCD has a better reputation than Stony. Just look at NYU undergrad (top 35), Law (top 5), Business (top 15), Film (best in the nation) and med school rankings (top 40) (www.usnews.com) and NYU is by far the better institution.
 
Yeah, when non-dentites hear that I got into NYU they get all amazed,but when my dad's friends hear it,they arent as impressed(these are all columbia-ites though,so probably biased).


Who knows, we might all be classmates next year:laugh:
 
Good post DDSY. I think it's important that NYU has the full support of its parent university (as impressive as it is!) as it works to improve its reputation among the in-crowd.

No lion love yet Ams? Don't worry, it'll come 🙂
 
Mackchops said:
Good post DDSY. I think it's important that NYU has the full support of its parent university (as impressive as it is!) as it works to improve its reputation among the in-crowd.

No lion love yet Ams? Don't worry, it'll come 🙂
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It had better, or I'm reapplying. :stubborn:
 
Hi everyone. I just want to put in my two cents about Stony Brook. First of all, I'd sell my left eye to get into NYU... or any school at this point. But I go to Stony Brook for undergrad and have worked extensively with the dental students, resident dentists, and professors here at their dental care center... and I have to tell you that everyone loves it. If feedback from past students is any indication, it's a great institution with very personal attention. And the campus is not that bad. It's very aesthetically pleasing, and there's a Long Island Railroad station right on campus to get into NYC in an hour and a half. It's a nice place...and the people are really nice. If you express interest in specializing, the faculty is super helpful and considerate and will help you get into the specialty.
 
Hi everyone. I just want to put in my two cents about Stony Brook. First of all, I'd sell my left eye to get into NYU... or any school at this point. But I go to Stony Brook for undergrad and have worked extensively with the dental students, resident dentists, and professors here at their dental care center... and I have to tell you that everyone loves it. If feedback from past students is any indication, it's a great institution with very personal attention. And the campus is not that bad. It's very aesthetically pleasing, and there's a Long Island Railroad station right on campus to get into NYC in an hour and a half. It's a nice place...and the people are really nice. If you express interest in specializing, the faculty is super helpful and considerate and will help you get into the specialty.
 
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amsie said:
Yeah, when non-dentites hear that I got into NYU they get all amazed,but when my dad's friends hear it,they arent as impressed(these are all columbia-ites though,so probably biased).


Who knows, we might all be classmates next year:laugh:
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Yep, Stony Brook isn't even ranked in many of these categories. Undergrad ranking is 98 compared to NYU's 32. . . NYU's Courant institution (for math) is also on par with MIT.
 
dreamerofdmd said:
Hi everyone. I just want to put in my two cents about Stony Brook. First of all, I'd sell my left eye to get into NYU... or any school at this point. But I go to Stony Brook for undergrad and have worked extensively with the dental students, resident dentists, and professors here at their dental care center... and I have to tell you that everyone loves it. If feedback from past students is any indication, it's a great institution with very personal attention. And the campus is not that bad. It's very aesthetically pleasing, and there's a Long Island Railroad station right on campus to get into NYC in an hour and a half. It's a nice place...and the people are really nice. If you express interest in specializing, the faculty is super helpful and considerate and will help you get into the specialty.
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Yes, if you love nature, then you'll love Stony. Like Cornell and Binghamton, they are aesthetically pleasing. But if you are a city person, you'll hate Stony. One of my friends left a relative good school b/c he is a city person. Plus, even if you use the Long Island Railroad (LIRR), it's different from being actually in the City. Plus you'll need to pay for the LIRR ($5-9) + the subway ($2) each way. But I think the tuition difference could afford you those train rides:laugh:
 
I hope you're kidding with this comparison. NYU is a great school but Stony Brook has one of the best reps in the country when it comes to training clinicians.
 
Do you know what percentage of SB students go straight into private practice or GPR?

Also, what are the average part II board scores at SB?

What are these numbers for NYU?
 
MrZ123 said:
Also, my dad heard from a colegue (he is a dentist) that NYU grads are better clinicians than Stony grads.
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Awesome blanket statement, based on hearsay, nonetheless. I'm sure that your father's colleague has seen the work of all NYU and Stony grads for the past 10 years. Sheesh.
 
ItsGavinC said:
Awesome blanket statement, based on hearsay, nonetheless. I'm sure that your father's colleague has seen the work of all NYU and Stony grads for the past 10 years. Sheesh.
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Nope, he hasn't. But he is friends with some of the biggest dentists in NYC and knows many of them intimately. I think word of mouth from dentists making a million plus in NYC is pretty good hearsay.
 
MrZ123 said:
Nope, he hasn't. But he is friends with some of the biggest dentists in NYC and knows many of them intimately. I think word of mouth from dentists making a million plus in NYC is pretty good hearsay.
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I hope this doesnt get turned into a "well MY daddy said that ____ is better and since WE live in a big fat mansion in westchester and drive fancy cars and he's a big park ave dentist,MY word is law" type deal🙄
 
MrZ123 said:
Nope, he hasn't. But he is friends with some of the biggest dentists in NYC and knows many of them intimately. I think word of mouth from dentists making a million plus in NYC is pretty good hearsay.
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Well I know several billionaires, they aren't dentists (because dentists dont make that much) and they can probably tell you that anyone graduating from either of these academic institutions are CHUMPS

They have more than your daddy's friends, making their ideas more correct than yours, your dad's or his mouth-cleaning buddies
 
MrZ123 said:
he is friends with some of the biggest dentists in NYC and knows many of them intimately.
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[EDITED]Amsie told me that this post was too mean... and to a fellow Jew I guess I can give some slack.
 
amsie said:
I hope this doesnt get turned into a "well MY daddy said that ____ is better and since WE live in a big fat mansion in westchester and drive fancy cars and he's a big park ave dentist,MY word is law" type deal🙄
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ummm aren't you the one with a big fat mansion in westchester with a dad who has lots of cars?
 
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Amsie is just jelous cause us Jews get all the respect.

I am just saying that dentists in NYC seem to give more respect to NYU than Stony Brook. If you have evidence to refute that, please provide it. If you just want to make fun of me, you can do that too, I don't mind because I am already into schools and that is all that matters 😉
 
MrZ123 said:
Amsie is just jelous cause us Jews get all the respect.

I am just saying that dentists in NYC seem to give more respect to NYU than Stony Brook. If you have evidence to refute that, please provide it. If you just want to make fun of me, you can do that too, I don't mind because I am already into schools and that is all that matters 😉
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you may be taking over (insert amsie's zip code here) but you arent taking over the (dental) world...sheesh🙄
 
I am actually 10577, get it right or pay the price.

NO COLUMBIA FOR YOU!
 
Owchie. What would you chose amsie, NYU or Stonybrook?
 
Why????

Stony or Columbia?
 
Yea yea. Why do you say Stony over NYU?

PS - do you have AIM to make this convo faster?
 
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I have no new ones...
 
Got it, now go online...
 
MrZ123 said:
I got into these schools. Money is not really a factor for me.

My parents discarded Stony Brook immediately because it is a state school.

What do you guys think is a better school?

I want to be a clinician when I graduate.
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congrats....

consider yourself very special to have been accepted at Stony Brook with a 3.3 GPA. not that it is low or bad but the cometition boosts the GPA average for the entering class....

good luck, not that you need any...lol
 
Consider this... My class has 39 people. During our pre-clinical classes like operative we have 6 highly trained practicing dentists/instructors walking around helping us with anything we need. Take a visit to NYU and go check out one of their pre-clinical classes and see if you can even find an instructor. NYU is a great school don't get me wrong but when you have a class size that large it's going to be hard to get as much attention than if you're in a class of 39. I'm sure both schools turn out great dentists and not so great dentists but I would be willing to bet that the not so great ones from Stony Brook still received excellent clinical training; they just simply lacked in the manual dexterity department so it was their own fault not SB's.
 
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