stop loss orders affecting physicians?

[benjiboy]

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does anyone know if any military docs have been prevented from leaving when their commitment is up due to a stop loss order?

 

[cdreed]

does anyone know if any military docs have been prevented from leaving when their commitment is up due to a stop loss order?

When I was on active duty before starting med school just after the initial conflict with Iraq, there were many physicians in my squadron that were stop lossed. Can't comment on the current situation since I've been out for a while.

 

[navysurgeon]

i'm getting out of the navy in one month...i'm a general surgeon....if the military needs docs, it needs surgeons, and there is no stop loss right now...frankly, if there was a stop loss, i'd still leave and get myself a good lawyer, or head for the woods north of vancouver for a while.

i'm convinced that the Navy is the single, most imcompetent and poorly managed organization in the US today. its worse then ****ing Enron.

 

[benjiboy]

theoretically, could the military, without invoking a stop loss, tell you that instead of going to reserve status you will be staying AD? because we're still owned as reserves for 4-5 years after fininishing the AD commitment correct?

 

[navysurgeon]

no.

you're under an active duty 'contract' with hpsp...when you're AD time is up, you go into the inactive ready reserves to serve a total of eight AD plus IRR years....you could not be retained on AD as an individual under any routine circumstance...that would require a stop-loss order that would affect everybody. docs in the Navy IRR have not been re-activated since WW2.

TNS

 

[f_w]

i'm convinced that the Navy is the single, most imcompetent and poorly managed organization in the US today. its worse then ****ing Enron.


But the navy has clearly the nicer boats 😉

 

[BOHICA-FIGMO]

i'm convinced that the Navy is the single, most imcompetent and poorly managed organization in the US today. its worse then ****ing Enron.

Nope, the Air Force is worse, trust me! See any of my posts this month and you will get the picture. For instance, we are 25% manned in flight docs and will shortfall an AEF 7/8 deployment because the ONLY deployable doc we have right now just came back 3 weeks ago! Yet they don't see fit to give an 11 year officer an HPSP scholarship! This tells me they already have enough docs and don't need any more. What a bunch of ******s!

 

[benjiboy]

you're under an active duty 'contract' with hpsp...when you're AD time is up, you go into the inactive ready reserves to serve a total of eight AD plus IRR years....you could not be retained on AD as an individual under any routine circumstance...that would require a stop-loss order that would affect everybody. docs in the Navy IRR have not been re-activated since WW2.

another question. at my med school, a few of the orthopods that had been in the AF were called back to AD a fews years ago when W invaded iraq. how would that happen? perhaps they had opted for an active reserve option rather than IRR?

 

[navysurgeon]

recall is a possibility from either the active or inactive reserves...clearly and historically, active reservists are called up. the inactive navy reserve has been spared any recalls (for medical personell) for close to 50 years...the unfortunate AF orthopods (God bless em') were likely active, drilling reservists...

the moral of our discussion thus far: keep the **** out of the active reserves

 

[benjiboy]

thanks navysurgeon. i appreciate your help and insight.