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If genny is actually a wolf can mods like make a low wolf multiplier on genny in the next 10 games because having her wolf in every game is so ANNOYING
 
I just dont like how gennys wolf meta and village meta are identical

We can also use VCA to POE her and my VCA of her shows that shes likely a wolf so I'm staying on my vote for her.
 
@MOOSEygoosey
@muttmanager
@BigCats

Hello, you guys are my village reads (village lean for mutts for trying to throw game).

Where would you like to vote today? We have to vote together because it is VOLO. Could you guys also do VCA of your top 2 wolf reads?
 
Sunbodi said:
@MOOSEygoosey
@muttmanager
@BigCats

Hello, you guys are my village reads (village lean for mutts for trying to throw game).

Where would you like to vote today? We have to vote together because it is VOLO. Could you guys also do VCA of your top 2 wolf reads?
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I’ll probably be voting for Pippy today- she’s at the stage of defending herself via mechanics and role claims and doesn’t seem inclined to argue for anyone else (either today or yesterday), which to me feels like jboo yesterday who knew she was going down and didn’t say much to defend herself beyond her role claim. You and mutts are my solid village reads. I’m not down to vote genny today because I don’t think she’s an OG in the slightest and we know there have to be at least 2 left.
 
Sunbodi said:
@capri1722 I'm curious to know why you haven't defended yourself yet when your name has been up in the air as a possible wolf for a couple of cycles now. I'm not saying I think you're a wolf but if you're not I'd like you to defend yourself.
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Not really though? Plenty of people have been reading me village, and those that haven't don't have me at the top of their lists. If I respond to every single person who says "not sure how I feel about capri," it's gonna look sketchy.

In other words, what's the point of defending if there's nothing to defend against?

But, if I must…
BigCats said:
The fact that neither of them so much as mentioned capri until jboo said capri was the strongest village read is mildly concerning tbh
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Keep in mind jboo said this when it was pretty clear she was going down. WIFOMy as heck. Not to mention I was one of two votes on her the day allie died (and switched my vote to jaboo basically instantly when allie revealed her info) and had the first vote on her yesterday. Y'all know I bus, but I don't bus THAT hard.
 
BigCats said:
Anyway, I would love to know where everyone's heads are at today. Top two wolfreads and why, por favor.
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I mean both of my top wolf reads died yesterday and the rest of my pack was kind of haphazardly thrown together. I'm at a loss today because I have some village points on basically everyone. (That's usually a sign of a convert, but there's no way it would be one OG wolf and the rest converts…right?)
 
capri1722 said:
Not really though? Plenty of people have been reading me village, and those that haven't don't have me at the top of their lists. If I respond to every single person who says "not sure how I feel about capri," it's gonna look sketchy.

In other words, what's the point of defending if there's nothing to defend against?

But, if I must…

Keep in mind jboo said this when it was pretty clear she was going down. WIFOMy as heck. Not to mention I was one of two votes on her the day allie died (and switched my vote to jaboo basically instantly when allie revealed her info) and had the first vote on her yesterday. Y'all know I bus, but I don't bus THAT hard.
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Meh, I'm just noting it. I don't think anyone gets village points for voting jboo yesterday or the day before that- jboo was pretty well outed by allie's info, not a whole lot of ambiguity there. I don't think you get auto wolf points for voting jboo either but there was definitely some bussing going on yesterday for sure.
 
capri1722 said:
I mean both of my top wolf reads died yesterday and the rest of my pack was kind of haphazardly thrown together. I'm at a loss today because I have some village points on basically everyone. (That's usually a sign of a convert, but there's no way it would be one OG wolf and the rest converts…right?)
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Yeah I'm very concerned about the prospects of a convert. Would be interested to see if jboo- Demogorgon- was a solo wolf who dragged people down to kill or convert them. Actually, very interested. That AM was specifically the Demogorgon blocker is very very interesting the more I think about it.
 
Sunbodi said:
@MOOSEygoosey
@muttmanager
@BigCats

Hello, you guys are my village reads (village lean for mutts for trying to throw game).

Where would you like to vote today? We have to vote together because it is VOLO. Could you guys also do VCA of your top 2 wolf reads?
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Not sure, it’s between you (suni), genny and BC in that order

I’ve already stated how I feel about VCA so if you have an argument to present, please share.
 
capri1722 said:
I mean both of my top wolf reads died yesterday and the rest of my pack was kind of haphazardly thrown together. I'm at a loss today because I have some village points on basically everyone. (That's usually a sign of a convert, but there's no way it would be one OG wolf and the rest converts…right?)
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Can you rank everyone from least to most village?
 
muttmanager said:
Not sure, it’s between you (suni), genny and BC in that order

I’ve already stated how I feel about VCA so if you have an argument to present, please share.
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Actually scratch BC bc it wouldn’t make sense to drag another wolf to the Upside Down
 
Day 5 (MARVOLO: ) The Flea OR the Acrobat Yeet Vote

Pippy ()
genny (1) - Sunbodi

1/7

Deadline at 10PM (~ 7.5 hours).

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Lunch was too busy for isos, will have to wait for later. I feel like AM’s death is a good way for Suni to push for Pippy today. And I’m not liking pretty much anything Suni is saying today. But jboo was pushing Suni too - will need to look back to see if that’s more likely distancing or if I should lean Suni village for it.

I want to iso Capri and mutts. Capri voted jboo with me, which I liked, but not sure what other village points I have for her. Mutts and her tunnel on BC has rubbed me wrong the entire game, but AM seemed convinced mutts was village, so I guess everything is just a big shrug for me right now. Just wanted to put that out there, hopefully will have some time before close.
 
I can maybe- MAYBE- allow for voting genny (I still think it would be better to get another wolf first but if it stops you hooligans from voting a villager out then whatever), but Sunbodi shouldn't even be on anyone's docket today.
 
BigCats said:
I can maybe- MAYBE- allow for voting genny (I still think it would be better to get another wolf first but if it stops you hooligans from voting a villager out then whatever), but Sunbodi shouldn't even be on anyone's docket today.
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You’re implying genny wont net a wolf, Who are the other wolves then?
 
BigCats said:
I can maybe- MAYBE- allow for voting genny (I still think it would be better to get another wolf first but if it stops you hooligans from voting a villager out then whatever), but Sunbodi shouldn't even be on anyone's docket today.
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Okay. I'm fine with pippy. I mostly voted genny to get more stuff out of her today and it worked so switching back to pip's
 
muttmanager said:
jboo attacking her would only make sense if she didn’t want to/have time to play, and her playstyle
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What about her playstyle screams village to you? I hate to say it because I do so love mechanics, but ignore the role claims, ignore the PR claims. Does being attacked negate the possibility of her being a wolf? Do we know that there were no conversions throughout the game? Pippy was dragged down by jboo, sure, but she wasn't killed there.

In a game where a mass role reveal could instawin the game, there need to be harsh consequences for relying solely on names. We know there probably isn't some role name extra kill thing out there- otherwise if Pippy were a villager, she'd be dead. So I think it's incredibly likely that, to penalize people who rely on the claims of others to solve the game (*cough*me*cough*), wolves probably have at least one conversion, maybe even two. That and extra kills are really the only ways to counterbalance a village from breaking the game.
 
muttmanager said:
You’re implying genny wont net a wolf, Who are the other wolves then?
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I think genny is likely a convert. Her playstyle from the first few days until now has changed dramatically. The fact that she's not even considering Pippy as a wolf- remember, it's volo, wolves want to seal the deal- further supports a genny/Pippy team. But you make me nervous because I'm worried you're going to get swayed onto another wagon since I think 2/3 of your POE are a bad idea. I want a united village. If going for genny is what it takes to make sure village is on a not-terrible wagon, then so be it, but I just can't do confusion and split villagers today. We need to all think together or otherwise not even bother.
 
Pippy is definitely a wolf. She said between me wonder and allieh there was a wolf.

I'm definitely not a wolf and my meta is seen as very chaotic which makes me an easy lynch choice in every game. Wonder was 3P but everyone was sus of wonder. I led a train on allieh and there was suspicious around her (sorry allieh). So it seems very opportunistic that pippy chose these 3 players out of everyone.


This opportunistic choice of these 3 players coupled with the fact that 2 seers are already dead (who were the two again?), and the timing of pippy's reveal (when she was tied in the lead with 2.5 hours until vote close), AND the fact that she revealed as what AM described as an overpowered role makes me confident in a pippy vote on playstyle alone. I can look at VCA to confirm my vote.
 
BigCats said:
I think genny is likely a convert. Her playstyle from the first few days until now has changed dramatically. The fact that she's not even considering Pippy as a wolf- remember, it's volo, wolves want to seal the deal- further supports a genny/Pippy team. But you make me nervous because I'm worried you're going to get swayed onto another wagon since I think 2/3 of your POE are a bad idea. I want a united village. If going for genny is what it takes to make sure village is on a not-terrible wagon, then so be it, but I just can't do confusion and split villagers today. We need to all think together or otherwise not even bother.
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I agree. We need a United village vote.

Speaking of which I would like moose to tell her top 2 reads and VCA
 
muttmanager said:
Not sure, it’s between you (suni), genny and BC in that order

I’ve already stated how I feel about VCA so if you have an argument to present, please share.
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Mutts you're not helping. You cannot play based on feels alone. You're going to need to describe why you think me, and BC are wolves. Feeling a certain way won't cut it.

And no, my allieh train is not enough of a reason to keep me on your wolf reads. My VCA soft clears me plus the fact that I did heavy lifting with AM yesterday to clear 2 scum.

You seriously need to help out village if you are a villager otherwise you're hurting the team. We are on VOLO
 
BigCats said:
What about her playstyle screams village to you? I hate to say it because I do so love mechanics, but ignore the role claims, ignore the PR claims. Does being attacked negate the possibility of her being a wolf? Do we know that there were no conversions throughout the game? Pippy was dragged down by jboo, sure, but she wasn't killed there.

In a game where a mass role reveal could instawin the game, there need to be harsh consequences for relying solely on names. We know there probably isn't some role name extra kill thing out there- otherwise if Pippy were a villager, she'd be dead. So I think it's incredibly likely that, to penalize people who rely on the claims of others to solve the game (*cough*me*cough*), wolves probably have at least one conversion, maybe even two. That and extra kills are really the only ways to counterbalance a village from breaking the game.
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Tone and delivery. Imo at this point being attacked does. I started there, randomly got out and was dragged back down at the same time as you - neither of us are dead so what’s your point

No one but the wolves know the facts of a conversation or not sooo no
 
Sunbodi said:
Mutts you're not helping. You cannot play based on feels alone. You're going to need to describe why you think me, and BC are wolves. Feeling a certain way won't cut it.

And no, my allieh train is not enough of a reason to keep me on your wolf reads. My VCA soft clears me plus the fact that I did heavy lifting with AM yesterday to clear 2 scum.

You seriously need to help out village if you are a villager otherwise you're hurting the team. We are on VOLO
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I can do what I please
I also said I no longer thinBC is a wolf so there’s you not even reading my posts
Never did I mention your allie train, feeling guilty?

edit: typo
 
muttmanager said:
I can do what I please
I also said I no longer thing BC is a wolf so there’s you not even reading my posts
Never did I mention your allie train, feeling guilty?
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Uh yes I do feel guilty for leading a train on a villager.

Now can you describe your top 2 reads. Me and genny and substantiate besides feelings and tone
 
muttmanager said:
POE.
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By the way I have been hard hitting genny since yesterday so we are definitely not in a pack together.

You're going to have to substantiate this with posts mutt. Why is genny on your radar all of a sudden today? Is it because of the long post analysis i did on her yesterday? Because if so, you're going to have to go back to the drawing board and pick out 2 other wolves who would make sense together in a pack
 
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Sunbodi said:
By the way I have been hard hitting genny since yesterday so we are definitely not in a pack together.

You're going to have to substantiate this with posts mutt. Why is genny on your radar all of a sudden today? Is it because of the long post analysis i did on her yesterday? Because if so, you're going to have to go back to the drawing board and pick out 2 other wolves who would make sense together in a pack
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muttmanager said:
Updated wolf pack, in no order
Jboo, suni, wondering +/- genny or sporty
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This was pg 24 (yesterday am) likely well before what ever post of yours you are referring to
You’re being real pushy for someone who refused to give reasoning in the beginning of the game

edit: typo
 
muttmanager said:
Tone and delivery. Imo at this point being attacked does. I started there, randomly got out and was dragged back down at the same time as you - neither of us are dead so what’s your point

No one but the wolves know the facts of a conversation or not sooo no
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I singlehandedly lost a game by focusing on mechanics and "well this person was blocked when this chaos kill happened so they cAn'T be chaos!!". I don't think being attacked clears anyone- we don't even know what that does, besides apparently making you susceptible to death by Demogorgon. Funnily enough, that same game Pippy was a wolf and threw a truly spectacular fit loaded with appeals to emotion when I tried to push her vote. I don't think emotional displays from Pippy are Certified Village(TM) in the slightest.
 
muttmanager said:
This was pg 24 (yesterday am) likely well before what ever post of yours you are referring to
You’re being real pushy for someone who refused to give reasoning in the beginning of the game

edit: typo
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Refused to give reasoning? Mutts we were in a DM together and I gave you reasoning I specifically said I could not list my VCA on thread because I didnt want wolves to change voting pattern.

I'm going to need you to describe why you feel genny is a wolf.
 
Also, only sporty and wonder have flipped and were not voted out, so we really don’t know if I’m right or wrong in my hunt
 
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