Strong CP programs

[dmurali]

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Hello I was wondering which are the strong CP programs in US?
I heard some are Yale, Wash U ... don't know others.. pls help

 

[TypicalTuesday]

I've heard Utah is one of the best...ARUP is there and I guess that helps.

 

[Napoleon1801]

Hello I was wondering which are the strong CP programs in US?
I heard some are Yale, Wash U ... don't know others.. pls help

Utah had a really strong CP lab and training because of the ARUP reference lab. I haven't been to New Mexico, but I hear its a similar situation with Tricore. I've heard some buzz about U. of Washington being good for CP, but I've also heard some detractors as well.

 

[Pianoboe01]

On a recent interview, a chair of the department told me the big 3 for CP are Yale, Wash U, and U of Washington. I've also heard Utah is strong. In general, I think any program that offers a CP-only track is probably pretty strong in CP.

 

[yaah]

It also depends on what you mean by strong CP. Teaching? Research? Fellowships? Lots of programs teach CP well in terms of passing the boards or practicing daily pathology. Others have lots of volume and research and technology and are great places to be if you want to make a career in research in CP.

 

[2121115]

When it comes to a residency program having "strong CP", be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. At some places, "strong CP" means "lots of scut work" while residents at places with "adequate" CP teaching are reading, going home early on CP rotations, passing the boards, and practicing real world CP with no problems. As I've been told, CP training for the real world should involve enough reading time to pass the boards and getting an MBA in personnel management.

 

[gbwillner]

Hello I was wondering which are the strong CP programs in US?
I heard some are Yale, Wash U ... don't know others.. pls help

Good question. When I interviewed I used CP training as one of my biggest factors, since I thought the AP training in most places is equivalent but there is a HUGE discrepancy in CP training. I also consulted several CP faculty about this.
Factors I thought were important-
1. Does path run the pheresis service?
2. Do they see patients on the blood bank?
3. Do residents have call responsibilities- or are all decisions deferred to faculty?
4. What is the teaching like (i.e., do they tell you to go read a book and come back in a month, or is it one-on-one with faculty, daily)?
5. What is the research atmosphere like?
6. How many CP-only residents are there? If there are many, then there's probably precedent and a good curriculum. There there are none/few, as others have said, it's probably not great.
7. Round with ID/Heme/ lab?
8. Does it follow a "consult" model (is the service consulted on cases as other specialties are)?

Programs I thought were outstanding:
WashU
MGH
Yale
Penn

BWH was also good, but I thought just a step behind these. I saw several others but was not really impressed (12 interviews). Some of these had "good" reputations... but it's really up to you to decide what is important for you.
Hope that helps.

 

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[LADoc00]

WashU, Utah, Penn and MGH.

but are you really planning to do CP only? If so, isnt research more important or do you have a plan?

Step 1 CP only training
Step 2 ???
Step 3 Profit.

 

[green mantis]

I think this was mentioned. I tend to believe that programs w/ CP-only residencies are probably "strong". I think the same can also be said of programs w/ CP fellowships such as microbiology or chemistry. Lots of places have hemepath, but I don't think the other aspects of CP are necessarily up to par.


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