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[Amma]

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hi everyone, I am a third year and trying to decide which programs I might want to apply to. I was wondering if anyone knows of particular programs that are significantly strong in teaching surgery. I am mostly interested in programs in Midwest or California.
Any thoughts?
Thank you!!

 

[Tenesma]

if you want to learn surgery go to a gen. surg. program

 

[Global Disrobal]

I am not familiar with the regions you're looking at, however the best bet for you would be to speak to residents at where-ever your training takes you. You're bound to run into people who are familiar with the midwest programs and can give you the inside scoop.

Also, don't let "fellowship" programs give you the false feeling of low surgical numbers for the residents. Our program for instance has UroGyn and GynOnc, however we have the highest surgical numbers in the area and are not affected by the fellows who infact are great teachers.

Good luck on the match

 

[kdoc2005]

I agree with Global. If the program has a strong Gyn oncology service or urogyn, you can usually bet the surgical training is good. I only interviewed a few places in the Midwest, but Wash U in St. Louis had great surgery numbers. I liked the residents a lot, too. Also, University of Colorado was pretty strong. I did not interview in California. Sorry!

 

[brows_kat]

Cedars has a very strong surgical training program. Residents start operating from intern year in ob, gyn, and in onc.

 

[Diane L. Evans]

First are you applying OB or Surgery? This is an OB/Gyn and related forum.
Second as a resident you want to go to a program where you will get the most experience programs c fellowships have those procedures taken away from residents. Second ask about the gyn#'s a program c over avg 40 vag hyst will give you a good indication of how much gyn sx one is geting. Also if you want to subspecalize say gyn onc go to a program who has renown people in that field or publish often (these prog often do more sx)

Hope this helps
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[Amma]

thank you all for your responses. I am really intersted in obgyn, but I want to learn to be a competent surgeon as well. I am almost finished with my surgery clerkship and I have really enjoyed it - but the obgyns at that this program are constantly consulting the surgeons for things it seems they should be able to handle...
So if I do choose obgyn, i just want to learn to also be a good surgeon.
again thanks for all your help! 🙂

 

[Tenesma]

Amma you have to ask yourself what is more important to you... OB/GYN and surgery are very different fields with very different personalities/views/management styles....

If you are the "surgical" type then I would recommend doing general surgery instead and then specializing in pelvic floor/rectal surgery (if that is the part of the body that fascinates you) - the pay/lifestyle is great for that (and the length of training is about equivalent to gyn. onc)

Don't be fooled into think strong surgical OB/GYN programs will make you an experienced surgeon, even if you do GYN/ONC... most OB/GYN programs have about 1 year out of 4 in the OR obtaining surgical experience, and most GYN/ONC fellowships have about 2 years of OR surgical experience - that adds up to 3 years of surgery experience by the time you are done.

However, OB/GYN has many other fantastic aspects that no other specialty can give you!!!

so choose wisely for what you think is best for you

 

[Delta-es]

if you want to learn surgery go to a gen. surg. program

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