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Hi, I am your typical mediocre medical student who needs to work really hard to keep Bs. I have trouble with memorization type questions on the test, but I have no trouble whatsoever with problem solving type questions.

On the other hand, you have the student who studies about 3 hours a day, then kicks back, watches the TV, and scores As all the time. In addition, this sort of person might memorize 500 pages of Goljan in 2 days, and get a 99% on the pathology shelf.

I have no distracting factors other than my study breaks, which is when I play the guitar/ piano.

Can you nail down precisely what I do more poorly than the A students? And how do I improve that quickly?

thanks for your help!
 
You haven't given enough information for me to give you specific study tips, but all I can say is don't compare your learning to someone else's, do question books to better anticipate the type of questions on the test, and don't go into a test without being able to completely grasp every concept presented. Putting the time in is the only way to learn the material. There is no universal strategy that can help you other than making sure you have actually learned everything you anticipate you will be tested on. Sorry I can't help more, but although you think there are some who can study minimally and get all A's, everyone who made it into my school's Junior AOA this year really does put a whole hell of a lot of time into studying.
 
I agree with the post above. You will not succeed in anything without putting in the time. Maybe there are people who simply claim to "not study all that much", but are you with them 24/7 to see what they are doing. I've known people who get off on bragging that they didn't really study all that much, when in reality they stayed up half the night. Also, there will be some people who may just have more experience with certain concepts, or simply were better taught in undergrad. For instance, I started learning MSK and systems anatomy in 1st year of my undergrad, and then was lucky to work as a teaching and lab assistant for the same course, so I had 4 years of 'general' anatomy knowledge coming into grad school. So obviously I had a bit of an advantage - in terms of not having to put in as many hours as someone who'd never seen a cadaver. But I still had so much more to learn, and was still studying daily to memorize all the things I didn't know.

So what I'm saying is, put the time in and don't worry about other people. Some are just lucky to have some more experience and others may not be telling the whole truth. But noone gets As in anatomy, for instance, by sitting around watching TV night after night.

My advice to you would be:
1. Read lecture notes before lecture - everyone has said this from day 1 of undergrad and honestly I didn't listen until 4 years later, but it makes so much difference!

2. Don't feel the pressure to read every single page of every text book. Your lectures should cover the most important topics. Refer to textbook resources to clarify things you don't know. Unless your prof says that a reading is mandatory, I would leave it at the bottom of my 'to do' list. There is no need to spending hours reading things you already know.

3. Don't take notes from textbooks!!!! In 1st year, all us keeners thought it would be helpful to 'make notes'. So I bought a notepad and pretty much re-wrote my biology book. It didn't help at all, just wasted time. In the end, I never have time to review my notes...and I write too much anyway. Since then, I simply started taking notes in the texts or on my lectures or sticking little post-its into texts and highlighting.

4. Practice questions, practice questions!! Do as many practice questions from old tests, textbooks, online as you can. Then study things you don't know! Don't waste time reviewing things you know 100x over.

5. Take breaks. Don't spend every waking hour studying. Get involved in something, so that you have an activity outside of school to look forward to. For me it was intramural sports/gym. Maybe join a school club? Volunteer? Go to the gym? Anything to force yourself to leave your house a couple times a week!

6. Unless you have tests or quizzes on Saturdays, Friday is a mandatory night off! Go hang out with your friends, watch a movie, go to the bar or the gym. But you are not to touch anything school related between 6pm Friday and 10am Saturday - it's the law!
 
Everyone is different. You have strengths that other students don't. Figure out which techniques work best for your learning and stick with those.

Below is the story of Zusha of Anapoli, passed on to me by a great mentor. Hope this helps.
source: http://www.innernet.org.il/article.php?aid=508

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The student who barely studies and aces the tests in med school is a myth. Find a balance btwn reading lecture notes, texts, and practice questions. If you want an A you need to know the material like the back of your hand.
 
The student who barely studies and aces the tests in med school is a myth. Find a balance btwn reading lecture notes, texts, and practice questions. If you want an A you need to know the material like the back of your hand.

...unless it's not the student's first time through the class.
 
Hi, I am your typical mediocre medical student who needs to work really hard to keep Bs. I have trouble with memorization type questions on the test, but I have no trouble whatsoever with problem solving type questions.

On the other hand, you have the student who studies about 3 hours a day, then kicks back, watches the TV, and scores As all the time. In addition, this sort of person might memorize 500 pages of Goljan in 2 days, and get a 99% on the pathology shelf.

I have no distracting factors other than my study breaks, which is when I play the guitar/ piano.

Can you nail down precisely what I do more poorly than the A students? And how do I improve that quickly?

thanks for your help!

Answer: PED's
 
thank you all for your answers. I appreciate it =)

Deuce924: what is a PED?

also yes I realize that top class medical students study a lot. I believe the A students I am thinking of actually study from class ending time to about 11:30pm.

An example of why I didn't get an A is as follows: I was studying GU pathology, and focusing on being able to diagnose diseases off HPI and slide image. However, the professor decided to be tricky and test us on the natural history/ epidemiology of these diseases instead of the actual diagnosis, which made me get lots of questions wrong.

So, I believe I have to memorize a far larger volume of info - and I have difficulty keeping all those details straight. What should I do about that?

thank you very much
 
I believe he's referring to performance enhancing drugs.
 
There is a book called the 80/20 principle.

There is a thing called meditation.

I found these 2 things as an undergrad and instantly surpassed all my friends' study habits. The book was my idea but I stole meditation from some weird guy who was all into Buddhism. The book can change your attitude. The meditation can improve your concentration, focus, and retention. If you are too lazy to follow any of my advice, then here are some threads because I know you will at least check them out:

(ranked in order of best to bleh)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...l-best-6max-player-ever-graphs-inside-655152/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...ag-really-beating-6-max-1000-nl-games-655028/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...ance/destroyed-3-6-time-move-up-graph-286574/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/100k-hands-w-ahud-338578/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/boywonders-video-out-leggopoker-676574/

The same skills which this OP has to crush internet poker (attention, concentration, focus) are the same skills to dominate the boring medical school stuff you gotta learn. The OP never daydreams, never has emotions (i.e. antsiness, boredom, frustration, anger) and I hope you can recognize which post in your thread is the best answer, rather than take an average or relying on bias.
 
by the way I should mention that I am unable to function effectively on long nights and caffeine - I just do what my energy will allow me to do. I had bad test results with long study nights and caffeine, so that is why I don't try that anymore.
 
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And what if you're not a Christian or atheist? Then what?
 
If you don't do it already - Exercise regularly!! Exercise will improve your mental capacity and give you more energy. I know you might be weary at first of devoting that extra hour a day, but trust me, within 3-4 weeks you will feel better and function better. I would also recommend, try to squeeze it in before class if you can, a 45 min run in the morning, and you will feel re-energized through class all day, trust me!
 
My advice to you would be:
1. Read lecture notes before lecture - everyone has said this from day 1 of undergrad and honestly I didn't listen until 4 years later, but it makes so much difference!

2. Don't feel the pressure to read every single page of every text book. Your lectures should cover the most important topics. Refer to textbook resources to clarify things you don't know. Unless your prof says that a reading is mandatory, I would leave it at the bottom of my 'to do' list. There is no need to spending hours reading things you already know.

3. Don't take notes from textbooks!!!! In 1st year, all us keeners thought it would be helpful to 'make notes'. So I bought a notepad and pretty much re-wrote my biology book. It didn't help at all, just wasted time. In the end, I never have time to review my notes...and I write too much anyway. Since then, I simply started taking notes in the texts or on my lectures or sticking little post-its into texts and highlighting.

4. Practice questions, practice questions!! Do as many practice questions from old tests, textbooks, online as you can. Then study things you don't know! Don't waste time reviewing things you know 100x over.

5. Take breaks. Don't spend every waking hour studying. Get involved in something, so that you have an activity outside of school to look forward to. For me it was intramural sports/gym. Maybe join a school club? Volunteer? Go to the gym? Anything to force yourself to leave your house a couple times a week!

6. Unless you have tests or quizzes on Saturdays, Friday is a mandatory night off! Go hang out with your friends, watch a movie, go to the bar or the gym. But you are not to touch anything school related between 6pm Friday and 10am Saturday - it's the law!

The parts highlighted would have been moneymakers for me....I too was a 'figure a problem out' kind of learner and as such, read EVERY page of the assigned reading. I figured that the professors were trying to 'mold' me into a physician and surely would not have given me an assignment without it being critical to my 'molding' as a physician.....what horse puckey....the reading assignments are there because they have to give them to you...and to make up for sucky lectures and powerpoints.....

If you lectures don't guide you, grab a copy of First Aid for (whatever step you're on) and use it as a guide to identify what's important to know. If you know what's in First Aid and I mean KNOW - you'll be ahead of the game.

Practice questions and know the powerpoints.....get through the PPTs at least 5 times.....

My anatomy prof gave us a unique method:

1) review slides before coming to class to get an idea of what would be discussed.

2) come to class and focus - take notes on the slides.

3) review slides that night.

4) if anatomy - go to lab and id those topics presented in lecture.

5) review slides on the weekend.

6) review before exam


You'll get a B at least....

Wish I would have listened instead of trying to do it 'all' cuz' I was superman and wanted to know it 'all' to help my patients.......cost me a lot of money, tears and whatnot....
 
what if the professors don't give out practice questions, and the only practice questions I have are easier than the actual test?

Also, most of the time I feel like questions are just spot checks. I can learn more info by studying the notes one more time, rather than doing 10 more questions (although I do finish some practice questions to get an idea of how the particular subject is tested).

Also, how does one get through the powerpoint five times? I only have time to do each of the day's lectures once (on that day), before getting too tired to continue and have to go home and call it a night.
 
if you think I wrote my last post with a nasty tone I didn't mean for it to come off that way - I just wanted to ask some questions that I had regarding practice questions. 😉
 
what if the professors don't give out practice questions, and the only practice questions I have are easier than the actual test?

Also, how does one get through the powerpoint five times? I only have time to do each of the day's lectures once (on that day), before getting too tired to continue and have to go home and call it a night.

Several of our professors don't give out practice question and we don't have old exams since all ours are on the computer but I have found there are numerous books with practice questions available. For biochem I used Rapid Review and BRS questions. Now that we are in Physiology I have found pretest questions to be at about the same level as our exams (maybe a little easier) and it really helps me to see if I am thinking through the questions logically. I also use BRS Phys which is easier so I use it as a "warm-up" about 4-5 days before the exam and then the BRS Phys Cases book is good too.

I don't get through powerpoints 5 times usually just 3-4. We only have lectures 2-4 hours a day so I use my afternoons to go through everything from that day then pick 1-2 lectures to review additionally. Also, on weekends I do practice questions and then review through all powerpoints. I also try to make study guide sheets during the weekends. I get together with a friend or two the 3-4 nights before the exam and we go through the powerpoints again and then the last 2 days are strictly for working practice questions (I try to have done 200 questions before entering an exam which is 60 questions) and then if there is a topic I keep missing on questions I hit that again.
 
I tend to get 99% of problem solving type questions right, and I usually get "factual recall" type questions wrong. Do you think its still worthwhile to do practice questions for me?

thanks for your continued support
 
I tend to get 99% of problem solving type questions right, and I usually get "factual recall" type questions wrong. Do you think its still worthwhile to do practice questions for me?

thanks for your continued support

yes. because a lot of the practise questions are also factual type and when you miss it enough times, you'll remember in any other situation.
 
yes. because a lot of the practise questions are also factual type and when you miss it enough times, you'll remember in any other situation.

👍- I think there are more practice questions with factual material than problem solving. The little facts you miss are most likely ones from the powerpoints that are professor specific so trying to go through them 1-2x more than you do now might help.
 
Can you guys recommend a good practice question source for Micro and Immuno?
 
If you were near Step 1 time, I'd say the QBanks are good, but I'm not really sure. BRS is decent-ish. You might try a Kaplan Step 1 QBook, too.
 
How often do you take breaks? According to Baron's guide to student success, our brains should take breaks every 30 minutes. I think that 30 minutes is too little time, so I take a break every 45 minutes or so.

I do "sets" of studying: 45 minutes, 47 minutes, 50, 47, 45...each "set" is followed by a 5 to 10 minute break. The 5 sets are almost 4 hours (234 minutes actually) and I don't have ANY distractions while studying. If a bomb went off, I wouldn't notice it. I sincerely doubt that people actually spend 10 hours of true studying time every day; they probably count all the time that they were physically at the library.


...so let me get this straight. You sit there with a timer and count how long you focus!?
😕
 
It sounds like you're more like a big-picture person. As far as memorization is concerned, there is no easy way out. While it's true a few are gifted with photograhpic memory, for most people, it's all about repetition until it becomes a second nature. Therefore, you should be willing to spend extra time if you want to retain more info. For me, it helps to try to make a story out of all the details I'm supposed to memorize inside my mind as if I were to present to others. Good luck!


I tend to get 99% of problem solving type questions right, and I usually get "factual recall" type questions wrong. Do you think its still worthwhile to do practice questions for me?

thanks for your continued support
 
hewmanoid, I do try to do more reps, but I get this impression that other people can accomplish the same task with less repetitions than myself. Therefore, they must have some intrinsically better study technique than me - and I need approx 10 reps of totally new information to really know it cold in my sleep.

what do they do better?

thanks
 
no, i do about the same. I just find it funny that its so down to the T. Touche
 
The impression you get from people can be deceiving. You never know how many hours people actually spend studying and memorizing. They might downplay it because they don't want to look like grade grubbers. Take it with a grain of salt.😉 Sorry I really don't have a quick solution for you (Btw, did mnemonics help at all?). But if it takes 10 reps to get the job done, I would say go for it. But, it's up to you to decide how you want to spend your time. So, it's your call.

hewmanoid, I do try to do more reps, but I get this impression that other people can accomplish the same task with less repetitions than myself. Therefore, they must have some intrinsically better study technique than me - and I need approx 10 reps of totally new information to really know it cold in my sleep.

what do they do better?

thanks
 
My advice to you would be:
1. Read lecture notes before lecture - everyone has said this from day 1 of undergrad and honestly I didn't listen until 4 years later, but it makes so much difference!

2. Don't feel the pressure to read every single page of every text book. Your lectures should cover the most important topics. Refer to textbook resources to clarify things you don't know. Unless your prof says that a reading is mandatory, I would leave it at the bottom of my 'to do' list. There is no need to spending hours reading things you already know.

3. Don't take notes from textbooks!!!! In 1st year, all us keeners thought it would be helpful to 'make notes'. So I bought a notepad and pretty much re-wrote my biology book. It didn't help at all, just wasted time. In the end, I never have time to review my notes...and I write too much anyway. Since then, I simply started taking notes in the texts or on my lectures or sticking little post-its into texts and highlighting.

4. Practice questions, practice questions!! Do as many practice questions from old tests, textbooks, online as you can. Then study things you don't know! Don't waste time reviewing things you know 100x over.

5. Take breaks. Don't spend every waking hour studying. Get involved in something, so that you have an activity outside of school to look forward to. For me it was intramural sports/gym. Maybe join a school club? Volunteer? Go to the gym? Anything to force yourself to leave your house a couple times a week!

6. Unless you have tests or quizzes on Saturdays, Friday is a mandatory night off! Go hang out with your friends, watch a movie, go to the bar or the gym. But you are not to touch anything school related between 6pm Friday and 10am Saturday - it's the law!

I really dig this plan. Will be applying this come fall. Thanks!
 
Different study strategies for different types of subjects. But at the core, I'd agree with reading notes before and after the lectures. Taking detailed notes is generally too time consuming unless there is something that you are struggling to remember.
 
The student who barely studies and aces the tests in med school is a myth.

👍👍👍

Absolutely the biggest lie in the history of medical school. I used to love the hearsay of "so-and-so" bragging about how much they slacked off in the course and then "rocked" the final exam, and of course they were quick to volunteer that information and shove it in people's faces. Turns out that their definition of "rocked" means beating the class average by a hair... maybe.
 
The student who barely studies and aces the tests in med school is a myth.

I have to agree with that too. I know a lot of the slackers/ apparent slackers in my school. They either study harder than you think they do, or they're not getting top scores (they're doing fine and passing, just not at the top).

I can think of one person who seems to prove the myth, but he has incredible focus and a mind like a steel trap, and he still puts in some time. He just needs to read things once, maybe twice, instead of three or four times.
 
I do know 2 of the supposed mythical students. I know they don't study that much (relative to other medical students) because I know what they are doing in their off time. I see what time they log on to xbox live and the pictures from going out on a tuesday night, showing up at lecture and then going to the gym, grabbing dinner and going out again.

It happens, just not very often.
 
I can't escape this feeling that my studying method is not time efficient, but I'm not sure how else to approach it.

It takes me a minimum of 3 hours to take notes on and review a lecture. I only use textbooks to clarify points and don't make notes from them really. My notes come directly out of the powerpoints and transcripts. Once I finish I usually know it fairly well and only need to do a refresher through my notes the night before to make it stick. I'm doing well (slightly above average).

I've tried not writing notes, but its habit and I've convinced myself that I learn it better by writing it.

Anyone else feel like this too?
 
I can't escape this feeling that my studying method is not time efficient, but I'm not sure how else to approach it.

It takes me a minimum of 3 hours to take notes on and review a lecture. I only use textbooks to clarify points and don't make notes from them really. My notes come directly out of the powerpoints and transcripts. Once I finish I usually know it fairly well and only need to do a refresher through my notes the night before to make it stick. I'm doing well (slightly above average).

I've tried not writing notes, but its habit and I've convinced myself that I learn it better by writing it.

Anyone else feel like this too?

This is my style too. If I don't fully memorize something on the first or 2nd time through, I end up forgetting it repeatedly until I put in a solid chunk of time to learn it thoroughly.

I have a friend who's acing everything and he finishes a lecture in about 15-20 minutes. He'll get a week or two ahead on lectures by the 2nd or 3rd week of a test block.

Different strokes I guess
 
So it will probably sound totally lame...but it saved my college career and am now entering class of 2010. I listened to an old tape series that came out in the 80's called, ready.... Mega Memory by Kevin Trudeau! Truly sounded corney, but really saved me hours of study time. Basically it teaches creative visualization and techniques to place things you are trying to learn in the context of things you already know. It has made pure memorization SO much easier! Before I had no strategy other than pete and repeat to learn something. Now I think creatively about how I can learn and memoize something and actively work to make links and visual pictures in my head. I memorize basic factoids in 1/10th the time now.

Cheezy name....amazing results. Hope it helps...
 
So it will probably sound totally lame...but it saved my college career and am now entering class of 2010. I listened to an old tape series that came out in the 80's called, ready.... Mega Memory by Kevin Trudeau! Truly sounded corney, but really saved me hours of study time. Basically it teaches creative visualization and techniques to place things you are trying to learn in the context of things you already know. It has made pure memorization SO much easier! Before I had no strategy other than pete and repeat to learn something. Now I think creatively about how I can learn and memoize something and actively work to make links and visual pictures in my head. I memorize basic factoids in 1/10th the time now.

Cheezy name....amazing results. Hope it helps...

OMG

I want to subscribe to your cheezy monthly magazine and buy all your products. Where do I sign up?
 
So it will probably sound totally lame...but it saved my college career and am now entering class of 2010. I listened to an old tape series that came out in the 80's called, ready.... Mega Memory by Kevin Trudeau! Truly sounded corney, but really saved me hours of study time. Basically it teaches creative visualization and techniques to place things you are trying to learn in the context of things you already know. It has made pure memorization SO much easier! Before I had no strategy other than pete and repeat to learn something. Now I think creatively about how I can learn and memoize something and actively work to make links and visual pictures in my head. I memorize basic factoids in 1/10th the time now.

Cheezy name....amazing results. Hope it helps...
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN5ihrECJms[/YOUTUBE]
 
Did anyone else think of this after reading the thread title?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw[/YOUTUBE]
 
So it will probably sound totally lame...but it saved my college career and am now entering class of 2010. I listened to an old tape series that came out in the 80's called, ready.... Mega Memory by Kevin Trudeau! Truly sounded corney, but really saved me hours of study time. Basically it teaches creative visualization and techniques to place things you are trying to learn in the context of things you already know. It has made pure memorization SO much easier! Before I had no strategy other than pete and repeat to learn something. Now I think creatively about how I can learn and memoize something and actively work to make links and visual pictures in my head. I memorize basic factoids in 1/10th the time now.

Cheezy name....amazing results. Hope it helps...

OMG

I want to subscribe to your cheezy monthly magazine and buy all your products. Where do I sign up?

:laugh:
 
I agree with the post above. You will not succeed in anything without putting in the time. Maybe there are people who simply claim to "not study all that much", but are you with them 24/7 to see what they are doing. I've known people who get off on bragging that they didn't really study all that much, when in reality they stayed up half the night. Also, there will be some people who may just have more experience with certain concepts, or simply were better taught in undergrad. For instance, I started learning MSK and systems anatomy in 1st year of my undergrad, and then was lucky to work as a teaching and lab assistant for the same course, so I had 4 years of 'general' anatomy knowledge coming into grad school. So obviously I had a bit of an advantage - in terms of not having to put in as many hours as someone who'd never seen a cadaver. But I still had so much more to learn, and was still studying daily to memorize all the things I didn't know.

So what I'm saying is, put the time in and don't worry about other people. Some are just lucky to have some more experience and others may not be telling the whole truth. But noone gets As in anatomy, for instance, by sitting around watching TV night after night.

My advice to you would be:
1. Read lecture notes before lecture - everyone has said this from day 1 of undergrad and honestly I didn't listen until 4 years later, but it makes so much difference!

2. Don't feel the pressure to read every single page of every text book. Your lectures should cover the most important topics. Refer to textbook resources to clarify things you don't know. Unless your prof says that a reading is mandatory, I would leave it at the bottom of my 'to do' list. There is no need to spending hours reading things you already know.

3. Don't take notes from textbooks!!!! In 1st year, all us keeners thought it would be helpful to 'make notes'. So I bought a notepad and pretty much re-wrote my biology book. It didn't help at all, just wasted time. In the end, I never have time to review my notes...and I write too much anyway. Since then, I simply started taking notes in the texts or on my lectures or sticking little post-its into texts and highlighting.

4. Practice questions, practice questions!! Do as many practice questions from old tests, textbooks, online as you can. Then study things you don't know! Don't waste time reviewing things you know 100x over.

5. Take breaks. Don't spend every waking hour studying. Get involved in something, so that you have an activity outside of school to look forward to. For me it was intramural sports/gym. Maybe join a school club? Volunteer? Go to the gym? Anything to force yourself to leave your house a couple times a week!

6. Unless you have tests or quizzes on Saturdays, Friday is a mandatory night off! Go hang out with your friends, watch a movie, go to the bar or the gym. But you are not to touch anything school related between 6pm Friday and 10am Saturday - it's the law!



this is very good advice. I would stick to this OP/
 
Quick question guys ... when do you typically do all these practice questions?? My profs usually include questions with their notes and I do those as I read through the notes maybe the second or third time. The problem is that I run out of time before the exam rolls around and don't get to do too many questions in the BRS books. Just curious how everyone fits everything into their scheldule. I guess I sorta get stuck in the mindset that the OP mentioned, where I feel that I should read the notes again instead of attempt to do some questions. I'm also pulling Bs for the most part at the moment. 😳
 
Quick question guys ... when do you typically do all these practice questions?? My profs usually include questions with their notes and I do those as I read through the notes maybe the second or third time. The problem is that I run out of time before the exam rolls around and don't get to do too many questions in the BRS books. Just curious how everyone fits everything into their scheldule. I guess I sorta get stuck in the mindset that the OP mentioned, where I feel that I should read the notes again instead of attempt to do some questions. I'm also pulling Bs for the most part at the moment. 😳

I usually tend to try to make it through notes 2-3x by 2 days before the exam. Then I use the last 2 days for questions and reviewing concepts I still am struggling with or miss questions on. I am pulling B's too but I am contempt with that for now.
 
hi, I appreciate all your responses, I really do.

the problem is - I want to spend time and get to know this stuff back to front. However, the last time I did this I was expelled from school for my bad test grades as a result of putting in a 6am-11pm day (from getting up to going to sleep). I used caffeinated drinks to keep me awake but that failed me - I just didn't know what was going on.

It looks like I simply can't take the schedule of an A student.

Now that I have returned to medical school - its happening again, I am halfway through a class and I am failing it. Failing this one class is grounds for the university to make me repeat the year, and I highly doubt they will give me a second chance again.

That list of six things by johncarter is really excellent - I am doing all those things except for part 6 - I feel guilty taking days off when I can't even pass classes.

Why despite my best efforts am I failing? I am trying the 80-20 method but it tells me things I know already. I have no relationship issues, no emotional issues, no deaths in the family, no distractions whatsoever.
 
I thought this thread was about studying while high.
 
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