Submitted publication/submitting in update letters and can update letters and loi be in same email?

[samantha1982]

Some questions:

1. I have one manuscript accepted pending review at a low impact factor journal (~5), we just need to add another experiment to the manuscript; is it worth updating adcoms? Should I tell adcoms which journal it is in?

2. I have two other papers I am currently writing the manuscript for and I will likely be able to submit these papers around April, is it worth updating adcoms that I will submit these papers in April if I already previously mentioned these in my amcas, as they are extensions of previously mentioned activities? Should I mention that I will be first author on these papers?

3. Can I include update letter and letter of interest in one letter?

4. Do we just email this info to admissions office? Should it be in the body of an email or attached as pdf?

I wanted to submit an update letter before final committees meet soon, and soon after waitlist placements go out and was wondering if the above information is pertinent.

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[efle]

@gonnif does the timing not change the rules a bit? If a paper isn't going to be accepted in the next few weeks it essentially has no chance making it in time to net you more interviews. Is nothing/not trying to update really better than updating with a paper accepted pending minor revision?

 

[mistafab]

The paper in question was not accepted with revisions - it was only submitted.

@gonnif does the timing not change the rules a bit? If a paper isn't going to be accepted in the next few weeks it essentially has no chance making it in time to net you more interviews. Is nothing/not trying to update really better than updating with a paper accepted pending minor revision?

 

[samantha1982]

The paper in question was not accepted with revisions - it was only submitted.

The paper is currently accepted pending review, if we submit the needed revisions by the deadline it will be accepted. Should I wait until after it is accepted (likely March?)

Also I have my name on a poster that was presented at a large conference, but I did not present the poster, should I also include this in an update?

 

[efle]

all actions have consequences

If you are a moderate candidate who suddenly states that he/she is submitting paper for publication that cant have any evidence on whether it will be accepted or even how good it may be, should I simply take your word for it? Would I wonder if this is accurate or just a typical applicant looking for any last minute spin to possibly help an application? If you are a good candidate with strong evidence of research before, it might help. But if you are not a strong candidate it may make you look desperate and will hurt. Since I am strong believer that in medical school admissions, "good" cant help as much as "bad" can hurt, reducing risk is key. Hence I do not recommend updating without solid evidence supporting it

Is there no difference between "im submitting" and "I've received back Accept pending minor revision?"

 

[Goro]

Accepted pending review is not accepted. It is "submitted", or "under revisions", which mean "NOT published or accepted".
This is not worth an update.

"In press" or "accepted" is worth an update.

1. I have one manuscript accepted pending review at a low impact factor journal (~5), we just need to add another experiment to the manuscript; is it worth updating adcoms? Should I tell adcoms which journal it is in?

No. You could be writing these in crayon on a brown paper bag and be factually 100% accurate. When I write the title page of my next manuscript, I too, am "currently writing".

2. I have two other papers I am currently writing the manuscript for and I will likely be able to submit these papers around April, is it worth updating adcoms that I will submit these papers in April if I already previously mentioned these in my amcas, as they are extensions of previously mentioned activities? Should I mention that I will be first author on these papers?

Only if it's a school that likes seeing its applicant grovel. Some schools don't want updates. LOI are treated as lies by most Admissions deans. You sent them an app; that shows you're interested.

3. Can I include update letter and letter of interest in one letter?

An email should suffice.
4. Do we just email this info to admissions office? Should it be in the body of an email or attached as pdf?

I wanted to submit an update letter before final committees meet soon, and soon after waitlist placements go out and was wondering if the above information is pertinent.[/QUOTE]

 

[Goro]

No.

Is there no difference between "I'm submitting" and "I've received back Accept pending minor revision?"

 

[Goro]

To follow up my colleague's wise words, for NIH Biosketches, PIs are asked ONLY for published or in press works, for thier publications section. Submitted, accepted pending....X, do not count. This is how these things are viewed.

pending review? review of what? grammar? data? result? peer review? Is adding an experiment just an editor being picky or a peer reviewer who doesnt trust the result?

now the OP could submit the update with the letter saying "acceptance pending experiment." will the adcom run and say "this is great!" or will they ask the questions I did and wonder if this applicant is just stretching stuff to look better? So will it help or will it hurt? Which risk do you manage for? Remember schools need to reject how many percent of their applicants?