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Is it me or does anybody else notice that the student's that kiss the most ass in class seem to get higher grades in operative classes much more easily?
It's like that at my school.dentaltom said:Is it me or does anybody else notice that the student's that kiss the most ass in class seem to get higher grades in operative classes much more easily?
dentaltom said:Is it me or does anybody else notice that the student's that kiss the most ass in class seem to get higher grades in operative classes much more easily?
dentaltom said:Is it me or does anybody else notice that the student's that kiss the most ass in class seem to get higher grades in operative classes much more easily?
dentaltom said:Yeah, the Fromling butt-kissers are particularly annoying, and everyone notices but the Fromster. I just wish my SDN id was more anonymous so I could....
Yeah,impossible to brownnose on practicals. But you can brown nose on weekly lab work. my lab courses, daily work accounts for between 20-40% or more of the grade. I feel my labwork is really good, I'm the only damn student in my class with loupes. The problem for me is exactly what the difference is between an 85+ and a 95. In the final grade there is a huge difference between 5 85+'s and 5 95's.
You know what, I'm kinda dissappointed that mr. aphistis hasn't thrown in his 2 cent's worth. Maybe my thread isn't good enough for the aphistis.
dentaltom said:Is it me or does anybody else notice that the student's that kiss the most ass in class seem to get higher grades in operative classes much more easily?
dentaltom said:Is it me or does anybody else notice that the student's that kiss the most ass in class seem to get higher grades in operative classes much more easily?
griffin04 said:Advice for pre-dents/underclassmen dental students: Learn how to kiss butt. It can't hurt, especially in the clinic.
quickfix said:i really don't like that advice and i would never take it. i would rather have my work (good or bad) speak for itself in order for me to keep my dignity. it's ironic that most colleagues (graders and fellow students) acutally like you more when they notice that you are above asskissing. in addition you get a little respect.
at the same time if you are a very political person, and asskissing is your way, then you can kiss my ass and i will grade you indifferently.
Wow, that's awesome.Bickle said:Here at tufts, Dr Singh has implemented a anonoymous grading system when we hand in our typodonts. We each get a random sticker with a number on it, stick it on our typodonts when we hand them in, and pick it up after its graded by handing in the rest of the ticket that is kept by the student.
griffin04 said:Kissing butt in dental school doesn't just have to do with grades. There are plenty of people not involved with grading you directly in clinic but will still influence and have a piece of control over whether you will make it out of the clinic. For example, the lady who assigns the patients. She will never grade you. But those who buttered up to her would potentially get the pick of the better patients to ace those crown requirements and score big in clinic points over those who annoyed her everyday with a "all my patients suck, I need more patients" and were on her bad side. Same goes for the people in sterilization, the cashiers, the dental assistants, etc. You can certainly get by, pass, and possibly do very well without kissing butt. But mark my words - you'll see a difference in how people are treated and a chunk of it has to do with the whole notion of "brown nosing."
If someone had told me this as a first year, I wouldn't have believed it having always worked by my integrity and honesty, blah blah blah. But now that I'm out, I'm just telling you like I saw it.
Clipse said:I don't mean to sound naive... but how does one exactly "brown nose" in dental school? Wouldn't most professors see through the act? Can anyone give specific examples?
Thanks.
Bickle said:Here at tufts, Dr Singh has implemented a anonoymous grading system when we hand in our typodonts. We each get a random sticker with a number on it, stick it on our typodonts when we hand them in, and pick it up after its graded by handing in the rest of the ticket that is kept by the student.
Very fair and impartial if you ask me.
12YearOldKid said:Of course they see through it, but some just like it.
For most of us, though, being polite and friendly comes pretty naturally and that it usually enough. It is only the sociopath gunners who have to ham it up because they don't know how to interact well with people. For gunners there are only three types of people:
1. The inconsequential - who pose no threat and can safely be ignored or used as the situation warrants.
2. The competition - who must be thwarted at every turn. The general behaviors toward the competition include providing wrong information, sabotaging projects and masking profound hatred behind a thin veil of collegiality.
3. The gatekeepers - who stand between gunners and their precious A's. These are the only people for whom the gunners will even attempt to feign true affinity. And the only way they know how to fake this is by kissing butt.
If you are a normal, friendly person you will usually be treated fairly by faculty without the butt-kissing. Oh, and having a great body if you're a girl will also take you a long way.
12YearOldKid said:If you are a normal, friendly person you will usually be treated fairly by faculty without the butt-kissing. Oh, and having a great body if you're a girl will also take you a long way.
mike3kgt said:Anybody else have a mandatory dress policy due to this occurrence?
-Mike
griffin04 said:so true, so true.
It's hard to give specific directions on "how to brown nose." But it's one of those things where you'll know when you see it. If you polled my classmates last year, they'd be pretty unanimous about the people who they considered to be the "biggest brown nosers."
"Biggest Brown Noser" was actually an award category at our 100 days party (they were all humorous awards, nothing serious). It's easy to spot the brown nosers and you'd think that the faculty would see through it, but like stated before, some of the faculty eat it up. Especially when it comes from a (flirty, pretty, thin, rich, etc.) woman.